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dantama · 01-21-2009, 10:36 AM

I put a little scratch on the shaft and the clamp so that I could get them lined up where I'm used to feeling them after a take apart.

I can't remember if the floor board has to come off to adjust it or not, but I agree that if the heal lever is too low, it will bind it up even if you use your front lever. Perhaps it is getting enough movement to partially shift and clunk, but not enough to get in gear.

If that is the problem, it's an easy fix. I just can't get down to my bike to have a look at it, but I've picked it up after a repair and felt that it was in the wrong place, just not as wrong as yours.

cactusjack · 01-21-2009, 10:47 AM

I did remove the floorboard when I adjusted my levers, come to think of it. That's only a couple of bolts.

cactusjack · 01-21-2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todd (Nomadis Custodis)

First rule of mechanics ..............rule out the easiest and simpliest things first. Then worry about the next.

First rule of troubleshooting:

If something that was working before you worked on it no longer works, you trace your steps back.

Sounds like your mechanic did that.

blowndodge · 01-21-2009, 10:54 AM

two bolts? Didja have someone help you??

karospirit · 01-21-2009, 12:50 PM

Well, it's ruled out. It doesn't shift even with correct positioning of the heel/toe shifter

**taranis** · 01-21-2009, 01:02 PM

Stupid idea: Wonder if your mechanic put the wrong kind or not enough oil back into the motor.

Better idea: Are you rolling when you try to shift? Can you force it by holding down on the back shift lever and easing the clutch out to get it to go into second while moving?

What about the clutch hoses/adjustments? It almost sounds like the clutch isn't disengaging all the way. Got enough brake fluid in the system or have you tried bleeding it?

**Idaho** · 01-21-2009, 09:43 PM

Sounds like you need a second opinion from another local wrench. May cost you a few bux but may be better that all of the 'wisdom' that we are spouting. No offense intended gentlemen. (especially to you guys with little feet)

karospirit · 01-22-2009, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taranis

Stupid idea: Wonder if your mechanic put the wrong kind or not enough oil back into the motor.

Better idea: Are you rolling when you try to shift? Can you force it by holding down on the back shift lever and easing the clutch out to get it to go into second while moving?

What about the clutch hoses/adjustments? It almost sounds like the clutch isn't disengaging all the way. Got enough brake fluid in the system or have you tried bleeding it?

The oil is the right one and enough. Yes, rolling when I tried to shift. No forcing possible. The brake fluid has been replaced about 2000 miles ago. I am not sure about the hoses/adjustments. I passed on the suggestions. Thank you. How frustrated I am!!

**taranis** · 01-22-2009, 10:42 AM

Good luck - let us know what becomes of it. I agree with Idaho, you need a second opinion. When they find the problem, take it back to the first guy and show him.

redeye · 01-22-2009, 01:57 PM

This is just a shot in the dark, BUT with the engine being removed, does the clutch slave cylinder need to be bled? If the clutch is not engaging then you would not be able to shift.

**Top Cat** · 01-24-2009, 11:25 PM

I'm bumpin' this 'cause I would like to know what she found out, if anything ???

karospirit · 01-25-2009, 10:39 PM

I will let you guys know. My best guess is that the engine was resting briefly where the fork shifter is and slightly bent it. Will find out. The mech ordered a new fork shifter.
It's hard to get a second opinion when the bike is in pieces. :(

karospirit · 02-03-2009, 09:16 AM

I am so unhappy. Turns out it wasn't the shaft shifter. The problem is inside the transmission. That is where the clunk is from. The shaft shifter wasn't bend. Something blocks it from shifting from 1st to send. All other gears are fine. Dunno what to do now.

karospirit · 02-03-2009, 09:18 AM

Does that mean I need a new transmission?

dogdoc · 02-03-2009, 09:21 AM

maybe not. Maybe just first and second gears since those are the ones not shifting> Good Luck.

01-21-2009, 10:36 AM	#16
dantama Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 0	No shifting possible I put a little scratch on the shaft and the clamp so that I could get them lined up where I'm used to feeling them after a take apart. I can't remember if the floor board has to come off to adjust it or not, but I agree that if the heal lever is too low, it will bind it up even if you use your front lever. Perhaps it is getting enough movement to partially shift and clunk, but not enough to get in gear. If that is the problem, it's an easy fix. I just can't get down to my bike to have a look at it, but I've picked it up after a repair and felt that it was in the wrong place, just not as wrong as yours. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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01-21-2009, 12:50 PM	#20
karospirit Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 82	No shifting possible Well, it's ruled out. It doesn't shift even with correct positioning of the heel/toe shifter Login or Register to Remove Ads
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01-21-2009, 01:02 PM	#21
taranis Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 802	No shifting possible Stupid idea: Wonder if your mechanic put the wrong kind or not enough oil back into the motor. Better idea: Are you rolling when you try to shift? Can you force it by holding down on the back shift lever and easing the clutch out to get it to go into second while moving? What about the clutch hoses/adjustments? It almost sounds like the clutch isn't disengaging all the way. Got enough brake fluid in the system or have you tried bleeding it? __________________ _______________________ "Taranis" and the Lovely Ann KawaNOW Oldschool #885 His: 2006 Nomad Hers: 2008 VN900 Classic LT
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01-21-2009, 09:43 PM	#22
Idaho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 5,241	No shifting possible Sounds like you need a second opinion from another local wrench. May cost you a few bux but may be better that all of the 'wisdom' that we are spouting. No offense intended gentlemen. (especially to you guys with little feet) __________________ Idaho (aka Curmudgeon) Blue Knights Idaho III VBA #110 VROC #24864 IBA #49753 2007 Nomad 86,000 miles Bud Smalley Pocatello, Idaho Idaho Jack Adapter
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01-22-2009, 10:42 AM	#24
taranis Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 802	No shifting possible Good luck - let us know what becomes of it. I agree with Idaho, you need a second opinion. When they find the problem, take it back to the first guy and show him. __________________ _______________________ "Taranis" and the Lovely Ann KawaNOW Oldschool #885 His: 2006 Nomad Hers: 2008 VN900 Classic LT
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01-22-2009, 01:57 PM	#25
redeye Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rocklin California Posts: 777	No shifting possible This is just a shot in the dark, BUT with the engine being removed, does the clutch slave cylinder need to be bled? If the clutch is not engaging then you would not be able to shift.
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01-24-2009, 11:25 PM	#26
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	No shifting possible I'm bumpin' this 'cause I would like to know what she found out, if anything ??? __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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01-25-2009, 10:39 PM	#27
karospirit Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 82	No shifting possible I will let you guys know. My best guess is that the engine was resting briefly where the fork shifter is and slightly bent it. Will find out. The mech ordered a new fork shifter. It's hard to get a second opinion when the bike is in pieces. :(
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02-03-2009, 09:16 AM	#28
karospirit Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 82	No shifting possible I am so unhappy. Turns out it wasn't the shaft shifter. The problem is inside the transmission. That is where the clunk is from. The shaft shifter wasn't bend. Something blocks it from shifting from 1st to send. All other gears are fine. Dunno what to do now.
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02-03-2009, 09:18 AM	#29
karospirit Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 82	No shifting possible Does that mean I need a new transmission?
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02-03-2009, 09:21 AM	#30
dogdoc Top Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,263	No shifting possible maybe not. Maybe just first and second gears since those are the ones not shifting> Good Luck.
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