CJ's New Harley

[glwilson]

Originally Posted by Top Cat

He is just stating his opinion.
He said nothing against them.
I don't see the problem, this politically correct is getting way out of hand.

BS? Oh my...

[GIBBY]

Originally Posted by Top Cat

He is just stating his opinion.
He said nothing against them.
I don't see the problem, this politically correct is getting way out of hand.

I agree. Maybe HD should have some dumb-ass with a lone star tattooed on his forehead in their marketing program, so everyone can see what a "Real American" looks like!

[davidhollinger]

Ouch!! Lone star tattoo.

To me its smart marketing. I would have a local rider on the HD ads in EVERY country I was advertising in.

[GIBBY]

Originally Posted by davidhollinger

Ouch!! Lone star tattoo.

To me its smart marketing. I would have a local rider on the HD ads in EVERY country I was advertising in.

What makes you think the rider is not a local American? I know many people that look very similar to him that have left their homeland for a better life in America. Some are entrepreneurs that have learned to speak English quite well, are contributing citizens and have children that are serving in the U.S. Military. THEY are living the American dream and are truly more worthy to be called Americans then many who think they are American because they were born here. Just my humble opinion.

[davidhollinger]

Keep in mind that we have someone in our highest office who left his homeland for a better life... look what he's done for America.
The rider's appearance (to me) does not scream HEY I'M AMERICAN buy this bike! Sorry if that's the truth but as much as people like to say I dont see colors or races, I see people, its a lie. How many times have you heard a black guy so Oh that white dude, or a white guy so Oh that asian dude.
My point is if I were in advertising I would put a Pakistani rider on a bike I was selling in PAKISTAN. Why put a hard core American biker on an ad and make it look like its a pipe dream that they cant have. Put someone they relate to on it. As much as people dont like sterotypes, to pretend they dont exist is assanine.
Wanna sell me a Harley in Alabama? Put a typical white guy riding back country roads and stopping for a beer now and then....then sell it at an affordable price!! You're in MN,. if someone were selling you a snowmobile would you want to see a picture of one sitting in a garage in Alabama, never being used?

[Kawhead]

Originally Posted by Top Cat

He is just stating his opinion.
He said nothing against them.
I don't see the problem, this politically correct is getting way out of hand.

I agree. I don't think he was being hateful. If the rider were white and he suggested the the rider should have been Oriental, not an eye brow would have raised Leave him be.

"PC" sucks cat piss.

[jandreu]

"Keep in mind that we have someone in our highest office who left his homeland for a better life... look what he's done for America."

And what homeland might that be?

[GIBBY]

Originally Posted by davidhollinger

Keep in mind that we have someone in our highest office who left his homeland for a better life... look what he's done for America.
The rider's appearance (to me) does not scream HEY I'M AMERICAN buy this bike! Sorry if that's the truth but as much as people like to say I dont see colors or races, I see people, its a lie. How many times have you heard a black guy so Oh that white dude, or a white guy so Oh that asian dude.
My point is if I were in advertising I would put a Pakistani rider on a bike I was selling in PAKISTAN. Why put a hard core American biker on an ad and make it look like its a pipe dream that they cant have. Put someone they relate to on it. As much as people dont like sterotypes, to pretend they dont exist is assanine.
Wanna sell me a Harley in Alabama? Put a typical white guy riding back country roads and stopping for a beer now and then....then sell it at an affordable price!! You're in MN,. if someone were selling you a snowmobile would you want to see a picture of one sitting in a garage in Alabama, never being used?

The truth is I did not notice that the rider was Asian, apparently racism is alive and well in the "south".

I am sure that you know more about marketing then HD. After all, they by no means manufacture the best motorcycles but due to their marketing they outsell all other motorcycle brands in the U.S.

I frequent 2 other forums and have read hundreds of posts about these new HD models and only on this forum have I read something pertaining to the heritage of the rider. Maybe that says more about some of the people here then it does about Harley's marketing.

[id-man]

That fin style reminds me of somethin...can't quite put my finger on it....

[davidhollinger]

I didnt notice either till Tynker pointed it out...had to go look again. And yes, racism is alive and well in the south and north and east and even in MN. No one can be so blind to think its not still around. I know you live in Utopia Gibby but here in the real world it still out there. But why is it racism to point out that the rider is asian? The whole country is so damn sensitive. I dont get offended by the word redneck, and I make as many Alabama jokes as anyone, because I have a sense of humor and letting people piss you off isnt worth it. You started the thread and we didnt mean to hijack it into a political pissing match but when you post thinks, people can see them and interpret in whatever way they see fit as Tynker did. I personally dont like the little Harleys but I have no issue with you or anyone else on the forum for liking them or for asking why theres an asian on them. I hate loud pipes too but thats TC's thing but I cant hate the guys who LOVE the damn things. I guess Im saying Im sorry if you got offended for me agreeing with Tynker but to each his own.

[Kawhead]

Originally Posted by davidhollinger

I didnt notice either till Tynker pointed it out...had to go look again. And yes, racism is alive and well in the south and north and east and even in MN. No one can be so blind to think its not still around. I know you live in Utopia Gibby but here in the real world it still out there. But why is it racism to point out that the rider is asian? The whole country is so damn sensitive. I dont get offended by the word redneck, and I make as many Alabama jokes as anyone, because I have a sense of humor and letting people piss you off isnt worth it. You started the thread and we didnt mean to hijack it into a political pissing match but when you post thinks, people can see them and interpret in whatever way they see fit as Tynker did. I personally dont like the little Harleys but I have no issue with you or anyone else on the forum for liking them or for asking why theres an asian on them. I hate loud pipes too but thats TC's thing but I cant hate the guys who LOVE the damn things. I guess Im saying Im sorry if you got offended for me agreeing with Tynker but to each his own.

From your signature photo and being from central Alabama I thought you were white and I was wondering why a black guy was on a Nomad.

Kinda hard to tell with the shadows.

[davidhollinger]

LOL!!! I am so lost now I dont know what I am. I would say I am white but that would sound supremist. If I say I am black and I am racist. I am too tall to be Asian...wait thats racist too. Dammit!!! I am doing this wrong arent I?

[GIBBY]

Originally Posted by Tynker

It's interesting that they show an Oriental, in the picture !! Nothing against them, but they are advertising an American bike, and should be a different rider.

Nowhere to be found in this post is a remark about the motorcycles that are featured in the link that I attached, only a racist remark about someone that is not white sitting on the bike. I do not live in Utopia nor do I wish to, but to make a racist remark about a motorcycle advertisement and not even mention the motorcycle is obviously the opinion of a very narrow minded individual. And yes, we do have racism in MN , but that does not mean I have to turn a blind I to it when it is glaringly posted in a thread that I started. I am not the sensitive type and certainly do not mind jokes about the Irish ( my heritage, so I must not be an American ) and I agree that everyone is too damn sensitive, but when I read that post it just struck a nerve because there is no mention of the bikes.

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by GIBBY

Nowhere to be found in this post is a remark about the motorcycles that are featured in the link that I attached, only a racist remark about someone that is not white sitting on the bike. I do not live in Utopia nor do I wish to, but to make a racist remark about a motorcycle advertisement and not even mention the motorcycle is obviously the opinion of a very narrow minded individual. I am not the sensitive type and certainly do not mind jokes about the Irish ( my heritage, so I must not be an American ) and I agree that everyone is too damn sensitive, but when I read that post it just struck a nerve because there is no mention of the bikes.

That's a nice bike that the Asian guy is sitting on. How's that, Mike? Now calm down and go have a drink.

[HwyRider]

The first person that has posted the correct term. Oriental is a term used by people in their 80's to describe the Asian race. It is politically correct but old. Asian is the correct term.

My wife is Asian and I don't find anything in the post offensive. I don't think that she would either. I do get a chuckle out of everyone debating it.