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hlknvlcn60 · 03-20-2016, 09:58 PM

HILLHOUSE said it right. Once the battery cover is off, you will see 5 loaded wire harnesses going down into the battery box on the left side. Carefully unclip them and move them to the side out of the way, then you lift the basket out of the battery box containing the electrical chassis relay (with the 3 plug arrangement) and the 2 plug ecu and bring it to your bench. It takes some grunt to remove the ecu out of the basket as it is held in tight and surrounded by rubber so be careful but that's all there is to it and leave the chassis relay in the basket then pad up the ecu in bubble wrap, box it up and send it to New York.

Tcasa01 · 03-21-2016, 02:59 PM

Thanks hillhouse I sent it off can't wait.

Erilflynn · 03-21-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hlknvlcn60

HILLHOUSE said it right. Once the battery cover is off, you will see 5 loaded wire harnesses going down into the battery box on the left side. Carefully unclip them and move them to the side out of the way, then you lift the basket out of the battery box containing the electrical chassis relay (with the 3 plug arrangement) and the 2 plug ecu and bring it to your bench. It takes some grunt to remove the ecu out of the basket as it is held in tight and surrounded by rubber so be careful but that's all there is to it and leave the chassis relay in the basket then pad up the ecu in bubble wrap, box it up and send it to New York.

I'm assuming the 02 Sensor is one of those 5 wires?

hlknvlcn60 · 03-21-2016, 04:12 PM

I do not know if the 02 sensor is connected to the ECU or not as mine is a 2102 1700. You can simply and confidently consult with Ivan over this on the phone and he will appily clarify for you what to do with the 02 sensor wire after his flash, and depending on what exhaust system you are running. It seems he mentioned something about the reprogramming of the ECU makes the sensor obsolete as you may not need it anymore. I would call him.

Zeineth · 03-22-2016, 12:14 PM

Well i just sent mine out. Good thing I am on vacation starting today and will off playing in the Warm Sun of Vegas and Arizona for a week. I won;t miss it to much. not sure when i am going to get to test it though when i get back as the long range weather is still not good for me in Ontario Canada.

**smokier** · 03-22-2016, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hlknvlcn60

.. as mine is a 2102 1700.

When did you pre-order that?!?

Ride safe,
Smokier

Hillhouse · 03-23-2016, 08:59 AM

Got my ECU back and installed yesterday.
1st think I noticed when restarting the bike was it wanted to idle at around 2k, did eventually come back down. Time will tell if this is a constant, As for performance all I can say is wow! now this motor has been woken up only did a short ride, 48 here yesterday.

dhobbs74 · 03-23-2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillhouse

Got my ECU back and installed yesterday.
1st think I noticed when restarting the bike was it wanted to idle at around 2k, did eventually come back down. Time will tell if this is a constant, As for performance all I can say is wow! now this motor has been woken up only did a short ride, 48 here yesterday.

My idle surged the same way at first. After that initial startup it didn't do it again the next couple of days I started up. It surges just a little bit at startup now but it immediately drops back to normal. I guess it had to get use to the motor again..

rick6375 · 03-23-2016, 11:49 AM

Most all FI motors will run fast a few seconds after startup, including cars and trucks. The colder they are, the more they tend to run fast. My Voyager will sometimes run at 2k rpm for 2-3 seconds on a cold start. Common.

hlknvlcn60 · 03-23-2016, 01:19 PM

My engine surges up and down for a few minutes upon warm up as was told it would by Ivan and then like mentioned, settles down to about 7-800 rpm normal idling after reaching around 160-170.

UNCLE WILLIE · 03-23-2016, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hlknvlcn60

My engine surges up and down for a few minutes upon warm up as was told it would by Ivan and then like mentioned, settles down to about 7-800 rpm normal idling after reaching around 160-170.

we no longer have carbs n chokes to deal with---the ECM reads air and water temp + atmospheric press then decides what idle speed and fuel enrichment is needed for proper warm up of engine----when warm it should idle @ 900-1000 unless u have adjusted it with the switch---eng temp at 140---factory setting is 950----when I put the dobec tfi on mine the fast idle was not as smooth but not a big change -- tfi is gone now no need for it --- if anyone wants one u can have it cheap + shipping

tonik · 03-23-2016, 03:07 PM

This faster idle and surging while warming up is normal and happens without Ivan's mod. I think maybe those mentioning it are just paying more attention now that they have the mod....looking for changes perhaps.

dhobbs74 · 03-23-2016, 04:14 PM

Well of course it idles up after you crank a fuel injected engine, what we were talking about is that at first it surges up, then drops back down, surges up, drops back down . It does it about 3 or 4 times before it drops back to normal.

tonik · 03-23-2016, 04:16 PM

Mine does that stock, always has. Especially when it's colder, like 50 or below.

Hillhouse · 03-23-2016, 06:57 PM

Difference between pre & post Ivan's enhancement is pre it would idle high then drop down after 30 sec or so. Now it stays at high idle until engine temp gauge starts moving, also little slow dropping back to 950 if you hold throttle open then fully closing.
Temps in my area are in the 50's yesterday and today, which may have an effect due to ECU adjusting idle so it runs in cooler temp.. I don't think it's an issue but was just pointing out what I experienced.
This is by far the BEST enhancement to add to your ride by far.
Exhaust sound is different in a good way. Now it sounds consistent through the range, nice and smooth. Hard to explain but more like a tuned motor should.

03-20-2016, 09:58 PM	#46
hlknvlcn60 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: crooked river ranch oregon Posts: 723	HILLHOUSE said it right. Once the battery cover is off, you will see 5 loaded wire harnesses going down into the battery box on the left side. Carefully unclip them and move them to the side out of the way, then you lift the basket out of the battery box containing the electrical chassis relay (with the 3 plug arrangement) and the 2 plug ecu and bring it to your bench. It takes some grunt to remove the ecu out of the basket as it is held in tight and surrounded by rubber so be careful but that's all there is to it and leave the chassis relay in the basket then pad up the ecu in bubble wrap, box it up and send it to New York. __________________ 2012 Vaquero S.E. Chuckster's tear drop intake, Freedom true dual racing exhaust, Ivan flash, Clearview windscreen, Corbin gunfighter seat, Clockwerk's hugger style front fender, Kawasaki KQR backrest and luggage rack, kuryakyn iso grips and rear passenger boards, front highway pegs, revolutionspeed clutch and primary covers and reservoir and switch box covers and Kuryakyn skeleton rearview mirrors. Login or Register to Remove Ads Last edited by hlknvlcn60; 03-20-2016 at 10:01 PM.
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03-21-2016, 04:12 PM	#49
hlknvlcn60 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: crooked river ranch oregon Posts: 723	I do not know if the 02 sensor is connected to the ECU or not as mine is a 2102 1700. You can simply and confidently consult with Ivan over this on the phone and he will appily clarify for you what to do with the 02 sensor wire after his flash, and depending on what exhaust system you are running. It seems he mentioned something about the reprogramming of the ECU makes the sensor obsolete as you may not need it anymore. I would call him. __________________ 2012 Vaquero S.E. Chuckster's tear drop intake, Freedom true dual racing exhaust, Ivan flash, Clearview windscreen, Corbin gunfighter seat, Clockwerk's hugger style front fender, Kawasaki KQR backrest and luggage rack, kuryakyn iso grips and rear passenger boards, front highway pegs, revolutionspeed clutch and primary covers and reservoir and switch box covers and Kuryakyn skeleton rearview mirrors.
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03-22-2016, 12:14 PM	#50
Zeineth Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Odessa, Ontario Canada Posts: 111	Well i just sent mine out. Good thing I am on vacation starting today and will off playing in the Warm Sun of Vegas and Arizona for a week. I won;t miss it to much. not sure when i am going to get to test it though when i get back as the long range weather is still not good for me in Ontario Canada. __________________ VBA #02668 2014 Voyager ABS Thunder Mfg Tear-drop breather V&H Slip on's Ivanated ECU Air shocks with compressor and remote Rear speaker kit Clarion Amp 6.5" speaker adapters Polk Audio 6.5" front speaker. RACNRAY ISO grips with throttle mod. Bushtek Turbo 2+ trailer LED Headlight LED Driving lights Pulsating break light Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-23-2016, 08:59 AM	#52
Hillhouse Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Western MA Posts: 180	Got my ECU back and installed yesterday. 1st think I noticed when restarting the bike was it wanted to idle at around 2k, did eventually come back down. Time will tell if this is a constant, As for performance all I can say is wow! now this motor has been woken up only did a short ride, 48 here yesterday. __________________ Present rides 1983 Honda Shadow VT750 - Harley Killer 2005 Yamahe V-Star - Yarley 2012 Kawasaki Voyager - Weeping Angel http://tourofhonor.com/ #97 (2019) #128 (2018) #8 (2017) #458 (2016) IBA #50918 VBA #2296
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03-23-2016, 11:49 AM	#54
rick6375 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: New Castle, In. Posts: 365	Most all FI motors will run fast a few seconds after startup, including cars and trucks. The colder they are, the more they tend to run fast. My Voyager will sometimes run at 2k rpm for 2-3 seconds on a cold start. Common. __________________ 2005 800 Classic 2012 Voyager ABS
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03-21-2016, 02:59 PM	#47
Tcasa01 Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ft worth Tx Posts: 20	Thanks hillhouse I sent it off can't wait.
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03-23-2016, 01:19 PM	#55
hlknvlcn60 Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: crooked river ranch oregon Posts: 723	My engine surges up and down for a few minutes upon warm up as was told it would by Ivan and then like mentioned, settles down to about 7-800 rpm normal idling after reaching around 160-170. __________________ 2012 Vaquero S.E. Chuckster's tear drop intake, Freedom true dual racing exhaust, Ivan flash, Clearview windscreen, Corbin gunfighter seat, Clockwerk's hugger style front fender, Kawasaki KQR backrest and luggage rack, kuryakyn iso grips and rear passenger boards, front highway pegs, revolutionspeed clutch and primary covers and reservoir and switch box covers and Kuryakyn skeleton rearview mirrors.
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03-23-2016, 03:07 PM	#57
tonik Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 714	This faster idle and surging while warming up is normal and happens without Ivan's mod. I think maybe those mentioning it are just paying more attention now that they have the mod....looking for changes perhaps.
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03-23-2016, 04:14 PM	#58
dhobbs74 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 99	Well of course it idles up after you crank a fuel injected engine, what we were talking about is that at first it surges up, then drops back down, surges up, drops back down . It does it about 3 or 4 times before it drops back to normal.
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03-23-2016, 04:16 PM	#59
tonik Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 714	Mine does that stock, always has. Especially when it's colder, like 50 or below.
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03-23-2016, 06:57 PM	#60
Hillhouse Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Western MA Posts: 180	Difference between pre & post Ivan's enhancement is pre it would idle high then drop down after 30 sec or so. Now it stays at high idle until engine temp gauge starts moving, also little slow dropping back to 950 if you hold throttle open then fully closing. Temps in my area are in the 50's yesterday and today, which may have an effect due to ECU adjusting idle so it runs in cooler temp.. I don't think it's an issue but was just pointing out what I experienced. This is by far the BEST enhancement to add to your ride by far. Exhaust sound is different in a good way. Now it sounds consistent through the range, nice and smooth. Hard to explain but more like a tuned motor should. __________________ Present rides 1983 Honda Shadow VT750 - Harley Killer 2005 Yamahe V-Star - Yarley 2012 Kawasaki Voyager - Weeping Angel http://tourofhonor.com/ #97 (2019) #128 (2018) #8 (2017) #458 (2016) IBA #50918 VBA #2296
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