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Old 09-14-2014, 07:40 AM   #1
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I adapted a Fan assisted oil cooler for my 2013 VN1700 Vulcan Voyager

I just adapted a Jagg FP-2600 10 row hyperflow 2 pass oil cooler with a WeatherTek fan and thermostat control to my 2013 Vulcan Voyager.

I modified an M20 x 1.5 thread aluminum universal oil filter/cooler bypass 'sandwich' adapter to fit.

I found on eBay a 751-FP2600 kit that a guy bought and didn't use. ($300) I scrapped the two piece oil filter adapter that came with the kit. Then took a universal one piece 'sandwich' adapter ($20 on eBay) and worked it on my bench mount grinding wheel to reduce its circumference to nearly that of the filter. One side tap I plugged and ground smooth, in the other I placed the thermostat. A little careful dremel work to the engine case was necessary.

I fabricated a cross bar and welded a flange on each end, into which I drilled holes. It spans the inside measurement between the engine guard/lowers bolts. I painted it black. I hung the cooler with the kit's Uralite mounts, attached the fan wires to the thermostat and tapped for power. 3/8 ths inch ID hose, clamps, a half a quart of oil and ......no leaks.

As far as temperature lowering in real numbers I haven't a clue, I have no method of measuring the complete effect outside of the water temp gauge. Along with the two black plastic friction fit gap covers I made to close the space between the lowers and the radiator ( they funnel the wind blast directly into the radiator ) my operating temps on an 80 degree day above 35 mph have dropped a mark and a half.

I will take pix when I can next week.



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Old 09-14-2014, 08:34 AM   #2
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I like to see people who "think outside of the box", and fab things up to solve a problem they may be having. Any cooling at all will be better than before. When you take pics, have a few showing different angles, I'd like to see it.
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:36 AM   #3
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Old 09-14-2014, 09:08 AM   #4
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A dip stick thermometer will give you some info.
You do not want your oil temp below 180 degree F.
What is the oil thermostat supposed to open at?
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Sounds like an interesting project, post lots of pic's.
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Old 09-14-2014, 10:23 AM   #6
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Welcome aboard!It sounds like you did a creative job of making something work. send a pic when you can.
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Old 09-14-2014, 11:20 AM   #7
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Greetings from Las Vegas! Sounds like an ambitious project!
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Question

I think that the two-plus hours hunched over the grinding wheel was the most ambitious part of getting the 'sandwich' down to size. The oil filter location does not have much space, as it is nestled so tightly to the block.
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:55 PM   #9
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Welcome from the sun set slope of The High Sierra's..

I'm engineering a similar engine oil cooler for my 02 Nomad...using a oil filter mount, adapter (for a honda car)..the only "machining"..so far has been to -bench grind- a small slot along the outter edge of the adapter housing, to clear the real brake hose, as it's 'tight" along side the oil filter mount and where the brake line runs past on the frame...

Looks like we BOTH need to post some photo's...
 
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A dip stick thermometer will give you some info.
You do not want your oil temp below 180 degree F.
What is the oil thermostat supposed to open at?

Do you have a source and/or part number for the thermometer dipstick?

With a readable scale this could be interesting to use.
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Can you use a dipstick thermometer on that 1700 motor? On the 1500/1600 motors the clutch is right below the filler plug.
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Old 09-15-2014, 05:36 AM   #12
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Do you have a source and/or part number for the thermometer dipstick?

With a readable scale this could be interesting to use.
It's in this thread: http://www.vulcanbagger.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=34690
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I just adapted a Jagg FP-2600 10 row hyperflow 2 pass oil cooler with a WeatherTek fan and thermostat control to my 2013 Vulcan Voyager.

I modified an M20 x 1.5 thread aluminum universal oil filter/cooler bypass 'sandwich' adapter to fit.

I found on eBay a 751-FP2600 kit that a guy bought and didn't use. ($300) I scrapped the two piece oil filter adapter that came with the kit. Then took a universal one piece 'sandwich' adapter ($20 on eBay) and worked it on my bench mount grinding wheel to reduce its circumference to nearly that of the filter. One side tap I plugged and ground smooth, in the other I placed the thermostat. A little careful dremel work to the engine case was necessary.

I fabricated a cross bar and welded a flange on each end, into which I drilled holes. It spans the inside measurement between the engine guard/lowers bolts. I painted it black. I hung the cooler with the kit's Uralite mounts, attached the fan wires to the thermostat and tapped for power. 3/8 ths inch ID hose, clamps, a half a quart of oil and ......no leaks.

As far as temperature lowering in real numbers I haven't a clue, I have no method of measuring the complete effect outside of the water temp gauge. Along with the two black plastic friction fit gap covers I made to close the space between the lowers and the radiator ( they funnel the wind blast directly into the radiator ) my operating temps on an 80 degree day above 35 mph have dropped a mark and a half.





The cross bar is 1.00 inch conduit, 12g mild steel flanges welded on the ends.
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Looks good you did a great job.
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Now that I have proved the concept I am going to dress it up with stainless braided hose and end fittings. I may even clean and wash the lowers to get the bugs off before the next set of photos.
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