Synthetic oil vs regular oil - Page 2

recumbentbob · 11-01-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dyetube

Is the Rotella cheaper than the Mobil 1? I already have 4 quarts of Mobil 1 so I'm gonna use them but for future reference...

Rotella T6 Synth is cheaper than Mobile 1 synth around here.

dyetube · 11-01-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cnc

Dyetube, maybe you should just change dealers.
Here are two other things to consider.
I have been running S4 in my bike since the first oil change after break in.
recommended by my dealer.
I friend I know who owns a Honda bike shop, hired as head mechanic last year a guy that he has known for years and has been trying to persuade him work for him. In conversation with this mechanic he told me he goes back to working on Kawas and Nomads in particular since the days of the POG and all the head aches they had with them. That statement means nothing other than to establish he Knows Nomads, but he did asked me if I ran synthetic oil in my bike and when I said yes, his reply was good man keep it up. This is not to promote one brand of synthetic over another, just to point out your dealer parts guy may be talking out of his a*ss.

Yeah, I typically don't mind wrenching on my bike so I know exactly what's going on and don't get jerked around or pay more than I have to for something but I am still learning the Nomad. I've always wanted the Nomad and couldn't afford it but now that I finally have one, it's everything I thought it'd be and then some!

**Top Cat** · 11-01-2011, 05:07 PM

The Walmart oil filter is SuperTech ST-7317 if you are interested in saving about $11 by using it instead of the one the dealer recommended.

That's what I have been using for 60,000 miles.

dyetube · 11-01-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Cat

The Walmart oil filter is SuperTech ST-7317 if you are interested in saving about $11 by using it instead of the one the dealer recommended.

That's what I have been using for 60,000 miles.

Thanks, I will! I already bought the dealer one so I'll use it.

**trip** · 11-01-2011, 05:10 PM

I've been using Bosch filters ($9.00 at any AutoZone) and Rotella 5w40 in my 1600 Nomad for years. Switched years ago from Mobil 1 to Rotella 5w40. Bike runs quieter. What the dealer is telling you is bullsh!t... But, I'll bet the dealer came up with that.... I'll bet that Kawasaki didn't tell them that. My 2 centavos worth.

dyetube · 11-01-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by trip

I've been using Bosch filters ($9.00 at any AutoZone) and Rotella 5w40 in my 1600 Nomad for years. Switched years ago from Mobil 1 to Rotella 5w40. Bike runs quieter. What the dealer is telling you is bullsh!t... But, I'll bet the dealer came up with that.... I'll bet that Kawasaki didn't tell them that. My 2 centavos worth.

I'm gonna get the Rotella next time... Cheaper and better from what I am hearing.

macmac · 11-01-2011, 06:37 PM

I run Mobil 1 for cars with NO 'EC' lable. Have since I first got the bike and it had 1,314 miles on it then. That dealer is full of hog wash..

I run either NAPA Gold filters or WIX. These are the same thing with different market lables. I consider WIX to be in the best filters catagory . These cost about 6 bucks.

I run full syn gear oil and that with other mods gets me 42/44 MPG. These oils are a part of that MPG.

waterman · 11-01-2011, 07:05 PM

And you wonder why dealers have such a bad reputation with idiots like this behind the counter. I have run synthetic on 3 different bikes with not one bit of trouble.

**krash** · 11-01-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by macmac

I run Mobil 1 for cars with NO 'EC' lable. Have since I first got the bike and it had 1,314 miles on it then. That dealer is full of hog wash..

I run either NAPA Gold filters or WIX. These are the same thing with different market lables. I consider WIX to be in the best filters catagory . These cost about 6 bucks.

I run full syn gear oil and that with other mods gets me 42/44 MPG. These oils are a part of that MPG.

+1, I use the same as Mac.
Learned a lot from him the last couple of years and so can most. Mac don't let yer head swell to much

AlabamaNomadRider · 11-01-2011, 08:54 PM

I ran Mobil 1 10W-40 fully synthetic for several thousand miles. Currently using a 50/50 mixture of Valvoline 10W-40/20W-50 motorcycle oil. Have over 2,000 miles on this oil change and the bike has performed great. It does have additives for motorcycle wet clutch.

macmac · 11-01-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by krash

+1, I use the same as Mac.
Learned a lot from him the last couple of years and so can most. Mac don't let yer head swell to much

What head?

usranger74 · 11-01-2011, 09:15 PM

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Con...tml#OilFilters

Good info on oil and filters.

I use T6 and this filter - PureOne PL14610

seacliff · 11-02-2011, 06:51 PM

I have run every type in my Nomad. Syns and Dino. Some seem better then others. I always love when someone says their bike loves it.??? How do you know.

Rotella is good but I am more concerned with the vanishing zinc and phosphorous that we really need. I think we will see more issues from it over time in higher mileage bikes with things like wear on cam lobes.

I have for the last 6 months been running Brad Penn 10w-40. My bike loves it Lol

I cant say its better. I will say the engine appears to run quite a bit looser with it. The cost isn't bad and their additive package is excellent. So for now, it is my #1 choice of oils.

bullman · 11-03-2011, 08:25 PM

I just started running the rotella this year. Shifts much quieter, or my hearing is starting to go. Engine seems a bit smoother as well. I will be using it on the next change as well.

Blueraven · 11-03-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dyetube

Is the Rotella cheaper than the Mobil 1? I already have 4 quarts of Mobil 1 so I'm gonna use them but for future reference...

I can get the Rotela in NY for about $20 for the gallon. In Canada, when it is on sale, I get it for $28 for a gallon.

11-01-2011, 05:07 PM	#18
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	The Walmart oil filter is SuperTech ST-7317 if you are interested in saving about $11 by using it instead of the one the dealer recommended. That's what I have been using for 60,000 miles. __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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trip VBA Founder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lindale, Texas Posts: 6,846	I've been using Bosch filters ($9.00 at any AutoZone) and Rotella 5w40 in my 1600 Nomad for years. Switched years ago from Mobil 1 to Rotella 5w40. Bike runs quieter. What the dealer is telling you is bullsh!t... But, I'll bet the dealer came up with that.... I'll bet that Kawasaki didn't tell them that. My 2 centavos worth. __________________ Robert "Trip" Hilliard VBA/KawaNOW - Founder/Past President VBA # 00001 Trip's Website Custer 09, 18 / Maggie Valley 11 / Eureka Springs 09, 17 / Antlers 09, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18 Texas Hill Country / Deals Gap / Colorado / Wyoming / Montana / Utah / More trips for Trip Login or Register to Remove Ads Last edited by trip; 11-01-2011 at 05:12 PM.
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11-01-2011, 06:37 PM	#22
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	I run Mobil 1 for cars with NO 'EC' lable. Have since I first got the bike and it had 1,314 miles on it then. That dealer is full of hog wash.. I run either NAPA Gold filters or WIX. These are the same thing with different market lables. I consider WIX to be in the best filters catagory . These cost about 6 bucks. I run full syn gear oil and that with other mods gets me 42/44 MPG. These oils are a part of that MPG. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it Last edited by macmac; 11-01-2011 at 06:40 PM.
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11-01-2011, 07:05 PM	#23
waterman Top Contributor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,530	And you wonder why dealers have such a bad reputation with idiots like this behind the counter. I have run synthetic on 3 different bikes with not one bit of trouble. __________________ Joel "Waterman" 2017 HD Road Glide Ultra 2006 Nomad - Sold VBA 213 VROC 16913 Custer 09: Cortez 10: Crescent City 11: Kanab 12: Estes Park 13: Tahoe 14: Red Lodge 16
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11-01-2011, 09:15 PM	#27
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Con...tml#OilFilters Good info on oil and filters. I use T6 and this filter - PureOne PL14610 __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505
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11-01-2011, 08:54 PM	#25
AlabamaNomadRider Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boaz, Alabama Posts: 13,742	I ran Mobil 1 10W-40 fully synthetic for several thousand miles. Currently using a 50/50 mixture of Valvoline 10W-40/20W-50 motorcycle oil. Have over 2,000 miles on this oil change and the bike has performed great. It does have additives for motorcycle wet clutch.
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11-02-2011, 06:51 PM	#28
seacliff Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 88	I have run every type in my Nomad. Syns and Dino. Some seem better then others. I always love when someone says their bike loves it.??? How do you know. Rotella is good but I am more concerned with the vanishing zinc and phosphorous that we really need. I think we will see more issues from it over time in higher mileage bikes with things like wear on cam lobes. I have for the last 6 months been running Brad Penn 10w-40. My bike loves it Lol I cant say its better. I will say the engine appears to run quite a bit looser with it. The cost isn't bad and their additive package is excellent. So for now, it is my #1 choice of oils.
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11-03-2011, 08:25 PM	#29
bullman Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Painesville, Ohio Posts: 193	I just started running the rotella this year. Shifts much quieter, or my hearing is starting to go. Engine seems a bit smoother as well. I will be using it on the next change as well.
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