Stock Tires

mr500 · 10-17-2019, 12:51 PM

So I have a 19 voyager. just a tad over 4k. looks like am down to the wear bars. WHATT!!!!!!!!

I keep rear at 40-41. I got a little left on them (I hope).

Question is, has anyone gotten Ma Kawa to replace them under warranty?

I got a trip to Thunder beach planned and I don't have time to buy tires and do all that lol

They should be ok for the 200 mile trip but prolly not anything else. You would think buying a 14-15k bike that the damn tires would go more than 4-7k.

redjay · 10-17-2019, 01:13 PM

I am pretty sure the tires would be classed as consumables and therefore no warranty.

mr500 · 10-17-2019, 01:16 PM

Yeah my thoughts as well. But damn 4k miles.....

redjay · 10-17-2019, 01:23 PM

I have 36,000 kms on the Commander II on the rear of my Yamaha 1300.

**Sabre-t** · 10-17-2019, 01:54 PM

Unless they have change the tires for the 2019 Voyager, 40 - 41 psi is too much for the stock Bridgestones unless you are constantly running at or near the max load capacity of the bike. Even then, the max should not be over 40 psi.

I ran the replacement rear Bridgestone at 36 - 38 psi, but still got less than 6,000 miles out it. Me and my cargo totaled about 320 lbs. Bridgestones are very soft rubber. Better traction than longer lasting tires, but they wear out fast. I should get 20,000+ miles to the wear bars on the current MC2 rear. I also run the MC2 rear at 36 - 38 psi, even when pulling a trailer. I'm going to try a softer tire (Shinko 777HD) for better grip than the MC2, but hoping it will provide better miles than the Bridgestone. If not, at least it is MUCH less $$ than Bridgestones.

BigDog1294 · 10-17-2019, 02:55 PM

Over the years it seems that about 7000 miles is pretty typical for the stock Dunlops on both the Voyager and Vaquero. I got 7400 on the stock rear. The Commander II got me 20K+ before wearing out. Of course, YMMV.

mbarr10 · 10-17-2019, 07:23 PM

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My Vaquero front tire at 6,000 hard miles. Already had replaced the rear tire. Ran 38 front 40 rear. never much of a load back then.

Wear bars at top arrow, thought it was bad on the questioned arrow. Needed to replace at 8,000 miles. Are you looking at the correct wear bars??

Thought the info may help. My sympathies on the low mileage. Since the Commander 11s, have been known to cause front end issues I purchased a Metzler Cruz Tech Looks pretty new with 4,000 on it now and grips very well/ rain or shine.

mr500 · 10-18-2019, 10:16 AM

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My Vaquero front tire at 6,000 hard miles. Already had replaced the rear tire. Ran 38 front 40 rear. never much of a load back then.

Wear bars at top arrow, thought it was bad on the questioned arrow. Needed to replace at 8,000 miles. Are you looking at the correct wear bars??

Thought the info may help. My sympathies on the low mileage. Since the Commander 11s, have been known to cause front end issues I purchased a Metzler Cruz Tech Looks pretty new with 4,000 on it now and grips very well/ rain or shine.

I might be looking at the wrong "bars". I am looking and referencing the ones in the center of the tire. Ill snap a pic and point it out. Hell I might be looking at the wrong thing.
Im looking at these the same as I would a car tire and that might be my issue.

I had II's on my nomad. I rarely ride in the rain so that wasn't an issue. I will go back with II's on the voyager as well.

I may back off the AP a couple pounds and see what it feels like. I think to it might the road surfaces I ride on as they are the Alabama country county roads and are not asphalt. They are that rock/tar mixture.
That might be part of the wear with the softer compound but I don't know.

mr500 · 10-18-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabre-t

Unless they have change the tires for the 2019 Voyager, 40 - 41 psi is too much for the stock Bridgestones unless you are constantly running at or near the max load capacity of the bike. Even then, the max should not be over 40 psi.

I ran the replacement rear Bridgestone at 36 - 38 psi, but still got less than 6,000 miles out it. Me and my cargo totaled about 320 lbs. Bridgestones are very soft rubber. Better traction than longer lasting tires, but they wear out fast. I should get 20,000+ miles to the wear bars on the current MC2 rear. I also run the MC2 rear at 36 - 38 psi, even when pulling a trailer. I'm going to try a softer tire (Shinko 777HD) for better grip than the MC2, but hoping it will provide better miles than the Bridgestone. If not, at least it is MUCH less $$ than Bridgestones.

I will back off the AP a lil. But I'm a fluffy guy (340) and I ride 1 up mostly. Every now and again the wife will ride but mostly me. That's 1 reason I keep them at 40 or so.
I guess I was coming off the II's and never thought off changing the AP till now.

GhostRider32 · 10-18-2019, 10:51 AM

The stock 'stone on the back of my '18 made about 4500 with no tread left in the center patch. I'm putting a Dunlop E4 in 160/80/16 to correct the speedo. I've read about guys pretty consistently getting 15k or a little better on these tires.

mr500 · 10-21-2019, 09:25 AM

Here us the wear bar that I am looking at on the OEM tires..

Is something else I need to look at ??

**Rookie13** · 10-21-2019, 05:26 PM

Looks like the correct wear mark. Ah yes- stock Bridgestones. Garbage. Squeezed 5K out of my original, and it was bald. Switched to Dunlop E3's until the E4 came out. Last rear E3 was 15k miles. Fronts usually 1k more with the 21". Currently have 8K on the rear E4 and looks like new yet. Might give the Commander's a try after this set is done. Good luck with your next selection!...anything but a BS. Fitting abbreviation.

mr500 · 10-22-2019, 07:07 AM

yeah I got some II's that I am looking at for the next set of skins.

Could you imagine a new car only getting 5k from a set of tires. Don't see why MC mfg cant come up with a better tire than these cheapos…..

GhostRider32 · 10-22-2019, 09:23 AM

It’s a money thing. Vastly better tires are already available. I’m having a Dunlop E4 160/80/16 put on my voyager today.

redjay · 10-22-2019, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mr500

Here us the wear bar that I am looking at on the OEM tires..

Is something else I need to look at ??

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/r...cle-tire-wear/

What is a tire wear indicator and where can I find it?
The tire wear indicator, sometimes referred to as the TWI, is a small piece of raised rubber inside of a tread groove. Wear indicators are available on nearly every tire meant for consumer use, including motorcycle tires. Sometimes a triangle or the letters TWI will be located on the sidewall. These are used to help you find where the wear indicator is located on the tire’s tread.
Once the tire is worn down to the point of being on the same level as the wear indicator, it should be replaced. This ensures that you are able to use the tire as long as possible before reaching dangerous levels (when the tread is practically nonexistent).

https://ca.images.search.yahoo.com/s...g&action=click

10-17-2019, 12:51 PM	#1
mr500 Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Auburn Al Posts: 247	Stock Tires So I have a 19 voyager. just a tad over 4k. looks like am down to the wear bars. WHATT!!!!!!!! I keep rear at 40-41. I got a little left on them (I hope). Question is, has anyone gotten Ma Kawa to replace them under warranty? I got a trip to Thunder beach planned and I don't have time to buy tires and do all that lol They should be ok for the 200 mile trip but prolly not anything else. You would think buying a 14-15k bike that the damn tires would go more than 4-7k. __________________ 2019 1700 Voyager VBA #02943 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-17-2019, 01:16 PM	#3
mr500 Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Auburn Al Posts: 247	Yeah my thoughts as well. But damn 4k miles..... __________________ 2019 1700 Voyager VBA #02943
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10-17-2019, 01:54 PM	#5
Sabre-t Join Date: May 2015 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 838	Unless they have change the tires for the 2019 Voyager, 40 - 41 psi is too much for the stock Bridgestones unless you are constantly running at or near the max load capacity of the bike. Even then, the max should not be over 40 psi. I ran the replacement rear Bridgestone at 36 - 38 psi, but still got less than 6,000 miles out it. Me and my cargo totaled about 320 lbs. Bridgestones are very soft rubber. Better traction than longer lasting tires, but they wear out fast. I should get 20,000+ miles to the wear bars on the current MC2 rear. I also run the MC2 rear at 36 - 38 psi, even when pulling a trailer. I'm going to try a softer tire (Shinko 777HD) for better grip than the MC2, but hoping it will provide better miles than the Bridgestone. If not, at least it is MUCH less $$ than Bridgestones. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-17-2019, 02:55 PM	#6
BigDog1294 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Atlanta GA area Posts: 127	Over the years it seems that about 7000 miles is pretty typical for the stock Dunlops on both the Voyager and Vaquero. I got 7400 on the stock rear. The Commander II got me 20K+ before wearing out. Of course, YMMV. __________________ Big Dog Atlanta, GA 2011 Vaquero
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10-17-2019, 07:23 PM	#7
mbarr10 Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,562	IMG_20180927_162217545_HDR.jpg My Vaquero front tire at 6,000 hard miles. Already had replaced the rear tire. Ran 38 front 40 rear. never much of a load back then. Wear bars at top arrow, thought it was bad on the questioned arrow. Needed to replace at 8,000 miles. Are you looking at the correct wear bars?? Thought the info may help. My sympathies on the low mileage. Since the Commander 11s, have been known to cause front end issues I purchased a Metzler Cruz Tech Looks pretty new with 4,000 on it now and grips very well/ rain or shine. __________________ Please post back after you have solved any issues 2016 1700 Vaquero 10/4/2016 2007 1500 Classic W/ Reckless Fairing, 42,000 miles 2004 600 Honda Shadow 18,000 miles 1989 500 Honda CX Custom 55,000 miles 1973 400 Kawi Triple 5,000 miles
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10-17-2019, 01:13 PM	#2
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,927	I am pretty sure the tires would be classed as consumables and therefore no warranty.
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10-17-2019, 01:23 PM	#4
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,927	I have 36,000 kms on the Commander II on the rear of my Yamaha 1300.
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10-18-2019, 10:51 AM	#10
GhostRider32 Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 38	The stock 'stone on the back of my '18 made about 4500 with no tread left in the center patch. I'm putting a Dunlop E4 in 160/80/16 to correct the speedo. I've read about guys pretty consistently getting 15k or a little better on these tires.
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10-21-2019, 05:26 PM	#12
Rookie13 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Rochester, Minnesota Posts: 179	Looks like the correct wear mark. Ah yes- stock Bridgestones. Garbage. Squeezed 5K out of my original, and it was bald. Switched to Dunlop E3's until the E4 came out. Last rear E3 was 15k miles. Fronts usually 1k more with the 21". Currently have 8K on the rear E4 and looks like new yet. Might give the Commander's a try after this set is done. Good luck with your next selection!...anything but a BS. Fitting abbreviation. __________________ A nation of sheep will soon have a government of wolves- Edward R. Marrow
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10-22-2019, 07:07 AM	#13
mr500 Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Auburn Al Posts: 247	yeah I got some II's that I am looking at for the next set of skins. Could you imagine a new car only getting 5k from a set of tires. Don't see why MC mfg cant come up with a better tire than these cheapos….. __________________ 2019 1700 Voyager VBA #02943
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10-22-2019, 09:23 AM	#14
GhostRider32 Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 38	It’s a money thing. Vastly better tires are already available. I’m having a Dunlop E4 160/80/16 put on my voyager today.
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