Who is at fault? - Page 2

Dean · 09-30-2013, 05:16 PM

It does seem there was some type of confrontation as the guy in the bike is riding beside the car and is looking/staring at the suv driver. With a group of bikes and 4 wheelers like that I might be apprehensive as well, but when they attacked the car the last thing they would see would be the flash of my 45. The guy on the bike did cut in front of the suv and slow down, as was said above bad decisions by all involved.

**ringadingh** · 09-30-2013, 05:23 PM

I'm not sure who started it, but most asians can't drive worth a damm, they cause more accidents than you can count.
I work in a area where there is a very high percentage of chinese people, the worst intersection for crashes in Canada is a few blocks from here and it a daily occurence to see Mercedes and BMW's blocking the intersection.
More than likely the guy made a mistake and they decided to make him pay for it.

**schoeney** · 09-30-2013, 05:57 PM

This incident is getting a bunch of press over the internet. These guys and this incident just gives all of us undeserved criticism.

Interesting reading some of the comments from New Yorkers' that say there are many more fights because no one can carry a firearm. Don't have any way to know if that is true or not.

Lots of ignorant people making comments on both sides. Tells you where our country has gone.

ponch · 09-30-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by schoeney

This incident is getting a bunch of press over the internet. These guys and this incident just gives all of us undeserved criticism.

Interesting reading some of the comments from New Yorkers' that say there are many more fights because no one can carry a firearm. Don't have any way to know if that is true or not.

Lots of ignorant people making comments on both sides. Tells you where our country has gone.

There are a lot of confrontational incidents in NY, take it from me, but most people aren't armed, unlike other places. I think when someone can and has to back up what they say and do, it makes for a polite society. SO, a lot of rectal parlance happens in the big apple. In this case someone pulled a knife. He should have had his ticket punched.

ponch · 09-30-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ringadingh

I'm not sure who started it, but most asians can't drive worth a damm, they cause more accidents than you can count.
I work in a area where there is a very high percentage of chinese people, the worst intersection for crashes in Canada is a few blocks from here and it a daily occurence to see Mercedes and BMW's blocking the intersection.
More than likely the guy made a mistake and they decided to make him pay for it.

I think Diceman did a bit on that. DWO, driving while oriental. He said something about blindfolding them with dental floss. Must have been The Diceman.

**HwyRider** · 09-30-2013, 08:15 PM

They just showed the video on CNN.

ponch · 09-30-2013, 08:16 PM

I read that something like 15 bikes had no plates. I wonder why?

**cnc** · 09-30-2013, 08:52 PM

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I read that something like 15 bikes had no plates. I wonder why?

If you look at the other video Jared posted, there were several off road 4 wheelers, I guess if I was going to run one on the road illegally, I'd take the plate off so you got to stop me to catch me, maybe that is the mind set behind some of those guys.

Sin City Stan · 09-30-2013, 10:25 PM

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Did you guys see the other videos from this guy? Real classy group of riders.

Looks like damage control is in effect. This video is now private and cannot be veiwed.

**HwyRider** · 10-01-2013, 10:30 AM

They just said on CNN more arrests are expected so I'm guessing they have at least one person.

**HwyRider** · 10-01-2013, 10:39 AM

Massachusetts biker paralyzed in melee.

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/caugh...z/-/index.html

Loafer · 10-01-2013, 10:57 AM

Bunch of crap! Prosecute all of them, bikers and the SUV driver. None of them handled it right.

Here is more footage of the riders.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

**HwyRider** · 10-01-2013, 11:45 AM

They said on the news that the SUV driver hit one of the bikers and pulled over to exchange papers. When he pulled over the bikers started stabbing his tires and beating the side of the SUV. The SUV driver feared for his wife and daughter and took off hitting 3 more bikers. The bikers caught up with the SUV, smashed the window out, dragged the driver out, and beat and slashed him.

ponch · 10-01-2013, 11:56 AM

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They said on the news that the SUV driver hit one of the bikers and pulled over to exchange papers. When he pulled over the bikers started stabbing his tires and beating the side of the SUV. The SUV driver feared for his wife and daughter and took off hitting 3 more bikers. The bikers caught up with the SUV, smashed the window out, dragged the driver out, and beat and slashed him.

Here's the thing: Most of the bikers didn't have plates. Why? Because they were up to no good and didn't want to get caught. If they were so in the right, why flee the scene? If the driver instigated this, you'd think they'd want the cops to hear their side of the story. Instead they fled. These facts speak volumes and too bad for the guy that allegedly was paralyzed, but at his age he should know better than to participate in that.

**ringadingh** · 10-01-2013, 06:31 PM

He will have a long time to think about his actions now.

09-30-2013, 05:16 PM	#16
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09-30-2013, 05:23 PM	#17
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10-01-2013, 10:39 AM	#26
HwyRider Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 4,629	Massachusetts biker paralyzed in melee. http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/caugh...z/-/index.html __________________ VBA # 02424 VROC # 35971 2010 Nomad 1700 Metallic Diablo Black/Metallic Titanium
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Loafer Sr. Contributor Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,287	Bunch of crap! Prosecute all of them, bikers and the SUV driver. None of them handled it right. Here is more footage of the riders. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664 __________________ Gerry Martineau / 802 VT / VBA #0892 /[email]glmjgm@gmail.com[email] Last edited by Loafer; 10-01-2013 at 11:17 AM.
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HwyRider Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 4,629	They said on the news that the SUV driver hit one of the bikers and pulled over to exchange papers. When he pulled over the bikers started stabbing his tires and beating the side of the SUV. The SUV driver feared for his wife and daughter and took off hitting 3 more bikers. The bikers caught up with the SUV, smashed the window out, dragged the driver out, and beat and slashed him. __________________ VBA # 02424 VROC # 35971 2010 Nomad 1700 Metallic Diablo Black/Metallic Titanium
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