Who is at fault?

[ponch]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1471585

[Old Bear]

Looks to be a biker gang trying to start shit. Every biker knows that you can stop and accelerate faster than a cage. That biker is either stupid or wanted to screw with the cager. Guarantee you one thing - do that crap here in Tennessee, when you bust my window I will put two .45 rounds in your chest. And when I get out, it will be with a full clip of .300 Blackout in an AR-15. You threaten my family I will take care of business. That is the one thing you can do to assure a deadly response from me.

[Jeffsmountainauto]

This is ridiculous. Accidents happen. These guys are nothing more than thugs. They will not likely feel so tough once they are locked up and cant pick on individuals with the rest of their buddies there to back up their retarded ego. If someone hit me i would be upset, but if they stopped to help then that's great, and if no one got hurt then even better. That is why I pay for insurance.
My closest call to date was caused by some idiot an a custom chopper that had no regard for anyone else on the road. At fault has nothing to do with your mode of transportation.
I don't think my face would have been slashed by one of these fools, but i may have run over a few before I just let them stop me and break out my window to try it. Especially if my children where in the car with me. I would die for my wife and kids, but I would sooner kill for them.

[davidhollinger]

Yep!!!

[ponch]

You have to remember, this happened in the People's Republic of New York. Carrying is heavily restricted in NYC and it's unlikely that these types would be met with force. In AZ, lots of people carry. In fact, a license isn't needed for open or concealed, so you take your chances acting like an ahole.

[HwyRider]

They're a bunch of punks. I'm surprised that the driver of the SUV or wife didn't get on the cell phone and call for help.

[Top Cat]

I'm in a car, they are on bikes.
I'm going to knock down as many as I can to get away while the wife calls 911 and keeps them on the phone during the whole encounter.
If I have to stop, the first guy who broke my window is the first to die.
We would see how brave the rest were after that.
Not many law abiding people can carry in NY City.
I have never been there and I live in the Peoples Republic of NY.

[ponch]

Originally Posted by Top Cat

I'm in a car, they are on bikes.
I'm going to knock down as many as I can to get away while the wife calls 911 and keeps them on the phone during the whole encounter.
If I have to stop, the first guy who broke my window is the first to die.
We would see how brave the rest were after that.
Not many law abiding people can carry in NY City.
I have never been there and I live in the Peoples Republic of NY.

That's bizarre that you've never been to NYC, but then I've never been to Buffalo.

[schoeney]

Interesting case. Obviously something happened before the first biker got in front of the SUV and slammed on his brakes. What was it? Was it a bump? Was it a biker feeling entitled ? or macho because his buddies were in tow? The SUV driver throwing his weight around?

Regardless of the event that was not on video (that triggered the whole thing) it was really stupid to retaliate by slamming on the brakes in front of the SUV.

The guy in the SUV may have been a total jerk and may have started the whole thing...dumb to do especially with family in the car. If that was the case it still does not excuse what was on the video.

Everything on the video is all on the bikers.

I did notice that it appeared only a couple of them were the real instigators/thugs (as usual). But that does not excuse the rest of them for not trying to restrain their idiot buddies and some putting their passengers at risk.

I gotta believe Momma was scared to death. It is interesting what the "pack mentality" does to people.

[schoeney]

Actually....after reviewing the video I don't think the biker slammed on his brakes, but certainly was daring the SUV driver to hit him. Both made bad decisions.

[Jeffsmountainauto]

I read the through the comments on the news site. A lot of people witnessed these guys tearing around town being general idiots before this happened. The guy in the SUV may have done something foolish. idk. But these guys were looking for trouble if you ask me, and I hope they get it.

[Jared]

Did you guys see the other videos from this guy? Real classy group of riders.

[Kawhead]

What a punk.

[cnc]

I don't think the bike slammed on hi brakes either, looks like he edge over got in front of the SUV and after a few seconds let off the throttle, stupid yes, daring the SUV to retaliate probably. As said something happened before to start this and there is no real proof in that video that his SUV was being damaged, no yelling, no noise, then the SUV bolts, maybe he was scared at that point, maybe he nothing happened and he just decided to takeoff, hitting the bikes, we can't tell but one thing for sure after the SUV left those guys on the bikes were just out of control. I'm betting if there had been a gun either in the hands of the SUV driver or one of the most aggressive riders, it would have been fired.

[Sin City Stan]

No matter what preceded this it seems to me that if he was beating on my window with his helmet he would soon be suffering from lead poisoning.