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**Top Cat** · 02-24-2009, 11:20 PM

I got my April issue of Rider today.
In the tech section a guy asked about putting a car tire on a motorcycle. Here is what the tech replied;
Car tires have a bead which is about 50 percent wider than a motorcycle's, and the corresponding bead widths on the rims mean they're not safley interchangable.
Any comments?

blowndodge · 02-24-2009, 11:50 PM

I think it's bull. The lip on a Car rim that seats against the bead are not all the same size as well.

pablo · 02-25-2009, 08:00 AM

I don't know enough to get into the technical aspects, but I watched the mechanic seat the tire on the rim, and it looked just the same as with seating a tire on a car rim; popped right into place. I have over 11,000 miles on my car tire and it looks just like the day it was put on. I don't see a problem.
Pablo

oldbikers · 02-25-2009, 08:06 AM

Not all motorcycle rims are the same I know when I had my goldwing if I wanted to run a car tire I had to have the rim modify at a cost of about a $1000.00 but I think the 1800 goldwing would handle the car tire.

towering · 02-25-2009, 08:52 AM

There are 3 areas on a tire bead called Point, Seat and Heal. There are refering to the fact that only 2 areas are making contact with the rim, the Bead and Heal.
I can see there point but a car is much heavier and needs all 3 contacts on the rim. A bike not weighing as much should handle just fine with only 2 points of contact.
Look at Poblos milage it seems to work for him.

Yellow Jacket · 02-25-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topcoat

I got my April issue of Rider today.
In the tech section a guy asked about putting a car tire on a motorcycle. Here is what the tech replied;
Car tires have a bead which is about 50 percent wider than a motorcycle's, and the corresponding bead widths on the rims mean they're not safely interchangeable.
Any comments?

Liability, liability, liability. This is the reason that no car tire manufacturer or motorcycle manufacturer will state that a car tire can be used on a motorcycle.

If you search the web on "darkside" or "car tires on motorcycles" you will find reams of information from a large multitude of people who have been using car tires on their bikes for many years. Most all of them declare that they will never go back to a motorcycle tire on the rear.

lonewolf · 02-25-2009, 02:28 PM

amen !

cactusjack · 02-25-2009, 04:19 PM

I read that letter in rider, too. I think it's BS as well. The magazine doesn't want to stick their neck out and condone anything that could get them sued. I personally know several guys running car tires who swear they will never run anything else again.

oldbikers · 02-25-2009, 05:05 PM

Well all I can say is when Betsy needs a new rear tire it will be a car tire.

billz410 · 02-25-2009, 07:43 PM

I wonder if there is a car tire manufacturer that makes a tire with the big white sidewall that would fit on a bike? I really like the look of white sidewalls on the Nomad- similar to the Metzler 880's Ringadingh from Canada has on his bike.

pablo · 02-25-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billz410

I wonder if there is a car tire manufacturer that makes a tire with the big white sidewall that would fit on a bike? I really like the look of white sidewalls on the Nomad- similar to the Metzler 880's Ringadingh from Canada has on his bike.

As long as you only want the white on one side. Car tires don't do both sides.

billz410 · 02-27-2009, 11:47 PM

Yes, that's a good point! Well, back to the ol' drawing board.

**Kawhead** · 02-28-2009, 01:13 AM

If there is anything I enjoy more than riding my beloved Nomad it's somebody crying :'( "You can't do that"!!! :'(

chief · 02-28-2009, 11:19 AM

Can someone who uses car tires on the nomad give me a brand name and exact tire size? I just put a metzler 880 radial on the rear, so I wont need one for awhile but I would like the info for the future. Thank's

blowndodge · 02-28-2009, 11:49 AM

http://darkside.nwff.info/

02-24-2009, 11:20 PM	#1
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	? 4 U guys on the darkside I got my April issue of Rider today. In the tech section a guy asked about putting a car tire on a motorcycle. Here is what the tech replied; Car tires have a bead which is about 50 percent wider than a motorcycle's, and the corresponding bead widths on the rims mean they're not safley interchangable. Any comments? __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4] Login or Register to Remove Ads
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02-24-2009, 11:50 PM	#2
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	? 4 U guys on the darkside I think it's bull. The lip on a Car rim that seats against the bead are not all the same size as well. __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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02-25-2009, 08:00 AM	#3
pablo Advanced Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 571	? 4 U guys on the darkside I don't know enough to get into the technical aspects, but I watched the mechanic seat the tire on the rim, and it looked just the same as with seating a tire on a car rim; popped right into place. I have over 11,000 miles on my car tire and it looks just like the day it was put on. I don't see a problem. Pablo
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02-25-2009, 08:06 AM	#4
oldbikers Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sardis Mississippi Posts: 3,513	? 4 U guys on the darkside Not all motorcycle rims are the same I know when I had my goldwing if I wanted to run a car tire I had to have the rim modify at a cost of about a $1000.00 but I think the 1800 goldwing would handle the car tire. __________________ Jim Hardin Sardis MS Kawanow # 453 Proud PGR member
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02-25-2009, 08:52 AM	#5
towering Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington S.C Posts: 366	? 4 U guys on the darkside There are 3 areas on a tire bead called Point, Seat and Heal. There are refering to the fact that only 2 areas are making contact with the rim, the Bead and Heal. I can see there point but a car is much heavier and needs all 3 contacts on the rim. A bike not weighing as much should handle just fine with only 2 points of contact. Look at Poblos milage it seems to work for him. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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02-25-2009, 04:19 PM	#8
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	? 4 U guys on the darkside I read that letter in rider, too. I think it's BS as well. The magazine doesn't want to stick their neck out and condone anything that could get them sued. I personally know several guys running car tires who swear they will never run anything else again. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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02-25-2009, 05:05 PM	#9
oldbikers Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sardis Mississippi Posts: 3,513	? 4 U guys on the darkside Well all I can say is when Betsy needs a new rear tire it will be a car tire. __________________ Jim Hardin Sardis MS Kawanow # 453 Proud PGR member
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02-25-2009, 07:43 PM	#10
billz410 Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dodgeville, WI COLD!!! Posts: 550	? 4 U guys on the darkside I wonder if there is a car tire manufacturer that makes a tire with the big white sidewall that would fit on a bike? I really like the look of white sidewalls on the Nomad- similar to the Metzler 880's Ringadingh from Canada has on his bike.
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02-27-2009, 11:47 PM	#12
billz410 Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dodgeville, WI COLD!!! Posts: 550	? 4 U guys on the darkside Yes, that's a good point! Well, back to the ol' drawing board.
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02-28-2009, 01:13 AM	#13
Kawhead Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 6th Floor up at the The Nervous Hospital up in East Central State, NC Posts: 7,454	? 4 U guys on the darkside If there is anything I enjoy more than riding my beloved Nomad it's somebody crying :'( "You can't do that"!!! :'( __________________ ??-Mar.2,2012 "Rocky" My Beloved Dog RIP Mike Tripp VBA#767 '96 800 Vulcan Classic 06 1600 Nomad 07 1600 Nomad "The shoes you buy at the Salvation Army is already been broke in"- Aunt Kawhead
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02-28-2009, 11:19 AM	#14
chief Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eureka, California Posts: 91	? 4 U guys on the darkside Can someone who uses car tires on the nomad give me a brand name and exact tire size? I just put a metzler 880 radial on the rear, so I wont need one for awhile but I would like the info for the future. Thank's
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blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	? 4 U guys on the darkside http://darkside.nwff.info/ __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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