New to me - Speed Wobble?

LikeAPuma · 07-19-2016, 04:24 PM

Just picked up a 06 Nomad yesterday. I have been loving it! But just a few minutes ago, I was coming up my road. Let go of the handlebars & let it coast, & the front end started to get all bent out of shape. Tried it a few more times, & same thing each time. Starts subtle, then grows into a would-be tank slapper.

What could be the cause? Definitely don't want this happening at higher speeds/with a passanger on

cactusjack · 07-19-2016, 04:34 PM

I'm going to say your steering head bearings need tightening. That's what fixed the wobble on my 2007 Nomad.

Jllm02199 · 07-19-2016, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cactusjack

I'm going to say your steering head bearings need tightening. That's what fixed the wobble on my 2007 Nomad.

Agree. That will fix it.

VulcanE · 07-19-2016, 04:57 PM

+3 same here with my '05

LikeAPuma · 07-19-2016, 05:06 PM

Thank you! Will definitely take a look! Any good walk throughs? Not overly mechanically inclined, but patient & willing to try.

Or is it literally just tightening something down?

alabama498 · 07-19-2016, 09:45 PM

The steeringhead bearings need to be replaced. I had a 09 nomad that had the same problem. Luverne Kawasaki in luverne Minnesota replaced them and it ran straight as a arrow. It was well worth it. My understanding is that the bearings that kawasaki used (not sure if they still use the same bearings) would wear out at 15 to 16000 miles. They used a different kind of bearing than the factory. That's probably why they sold it. couldn't find a mechanic that could diagnose the problem correctly.

Brad

Jllm02199 · 07-26-2016, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by alabama498

The steeringhead bearings need to be replaced. I had a 09 nomad that had the same problem. Luverne Kawasaki in luverne Minnesota replaced them and it ran straight as a arrow. It was well worth it. My understanding is that the bearings that kawasaki used (not sure if they still use the same bearings) would wear out at 15 to 16000 miles. They used a different kind of bearing than the factory. That's probably why they sold it. couldn't find a mechanic that could diagnose the problem correctly.

Brad

My 02 still has the original bearings. I've had them apart twice and they look good. I put a grease fitting in the yoke many years ago. Keep them tight.
Now wobble since 03. 140,000 miles.

redjay · 07-19-2016, 10:01 PM

Don't let go of the handlebars with both hands !
Tightening the steering head will likely cure most if not all of the wobble.

**Iamriding** · 07-19-2016, 10:37 PM

On mine the steering head bearings definitely needed to be tightened, but after that I discovered the tire was out of round so a combination of factors in my case.

Navigator · 07-20-2016, 12:50 AM

Yup, steering head bearings, tire under inflation or defect in tire etc., will cause a wobble that can turn into a tank slapper. Mid 80s Honda Gold Wings had the problem and my Canuck riding buddy found that his Triumph Explorer also has a problem and he changed them out. I just don't understand how MC manufactures can get away with this; that is, producing bikes with substandard steering head bearings. Really?

My 07 with about 12k miles on it runs rock solid straight and true but I will change them out at the first sign of an issue. I never realized there was a steering head bearing issue with the Nomads until talking to Hammer up in BC last year. I think he posted a thread on how to change them out.

**ringadingh** · 07-20-2016, 07:28 AM

New bearings did not cure the wobble on my 2002, the only thing that provides some temporary relief is a new front tire.

skiman · 07-26-2016, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ringadingh

New bearings did not cure the wobble on my 2002, the only thing that provides some temporary relief is a new front tire.

Ring, did you use an All Balls kit? If so you may need a shim like a few of us have had to do. When I was seating the bearing I could get the bear to go tight no matter how much I tightened the nut, Installed a 1mm shim and all was well.

**ringadingh** · 07-26-2016, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by skiman

Ring, did you use an All Balls kit? If so you may need a shim like a few of us have had to do. When I was seating the bearing I could get the bear to go tight no matter how much I tightened the nut, Installed a 1mm shim and all was well.

I used bearings from the local supply shop, I could tighten them too much if I kept going. the steering bearings are set for smooth operation without being any tighter that they start getting tight and binding. Ive tried different settings and it doesn't seem to make a difference.

LikeAPuma · 07-20-2016, 07:49 AM

Thanks again for all the responses. One of the reasons I decided on a Vulcan was because of the immense amounts of online support for these bikes.

I found the walk through on the vulcangadgets page, so I'll be attempting that on my next day off/evening of quiet. Until then, should I garage the bike? I was testing it out "for science" and the only time it occurs is between 45-55 mph w/ I don't hold the bars. Higher & lower speeds aren't a problem, but I'd like to get it taken care of sooner rather than later. Also, I've read that it could improve slow speed maneuvering, so that would be awesome as well.

Other than this, this bike is fantastic. Picked it up with 11k miles, and it runs like an absolute dream. Waiting a few weeks to get comfortable (and get this issue all straightened out) before I take my wife out, but she's already salty that I haven't invited her lol.

mick56 · 07-20-2016, 08:08 AM

No reason not to ride the bike in the meantime,just keep both hands on the handlebars and you will be fine.

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alabama498 Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 1	The steeringhead bearings need to be replaced. I had a 09 nomad that had the same problem. Luverne Kawasaki in luverne Minnesota replaced them and it ran straight as a arrow. It was well worth it. My understanding is that the bearings that kawasaki used (not sure if they still use the same bearings) would wear out at 15 to 16000 miles. They used a different kind of bearing than the factory. That's probably why they sold it. couldn't find a mechanic that could diagnose the problem correctly. Brad Last edited by alabama498; 07-19-2016 at 09:48 PM.
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07-19-2016, 10:01 PM	#8
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,928	Don't let go of the handlebars with both hands ! Tightening the steering head will likely cure most if not all of the wobble.
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07-19-2016, 10:37 PM	#9
Iamriding Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 305	On mine the steering head bearings definitely needed to be tightened, but after that I discovered the tire was out of round so a combination of factors in my case. __________________ 2003 Nomad 1500 Memphis Shades batwing fairing \| Chuckster dual plate BAK \| Dobeck EJK \| Mustang seat \| Victory Boardwalk handlebars \| Garry's fork brace with modified KLR fork boots
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07-20-2016, 12:50 AM	#10
Navigator Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Banner, WA Posts: 644	Yup, steering head bearings, tire under inflation or defect in tire etc., will cause a wobble that can turn into a tank slapper. Mid 80s Honda Gold Wings had the problem and my Canuck riding buddy found that his Triumph Explorer also has a problem and he changed them out. I just don't understand how MC manufactures can get away with this; that is, producing bikes with substandard steering head bearings. Really? My 07 with about 12k miles on it runs rock solid straight and true but I will change them out at the first sign of an issue. I never realized there was a steering head bearing issue with the Nomads until talking to Hammer up in BC last year. I think he posted a thread on how to change them out. __________________ Mike USN Retired 2007 Nomad
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07-20-2016, 07:28 AM	#11
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	New bearings did not cure the wobble on my 2002, the only thing that provides some temporary relief is a new front tire. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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07-20-2016, 07:49 AM	#14
LikeAPuma Jr. Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NE Connecticut Posts: 27	Thanks again for all the responses. One of the reasons I decided on a Vulcan was because of the immense amounts of online support for these bikes. I found the walk through on the vulcangadgets page, so I'll be attempting that on my next day off/evening of quiet. Until then, should I garage the bike? I was testing it out "for science" and the only time it occurs is between 45-55 mph w/ I don't hold the bars. Higher & lower speeds aren't a problem, but I'd like to get it taken care of sooner rather than later. Also, I've read that it could improve slow speed maneuvering, so that would be awesome as well. Other than this, this bike is fantastic. Picked it up with 11k miles, and it runs like an absolute dream. Waiting a few weeks to get comfortable (and get this issue all straightened out) before I take my wife out, but she's already salty that I haven't invited her lol.
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07-20-2016, 08:08 AM	#15
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