Evans Waterless Coolant

[ubernomad]

Anyone try this in their bike? A friend uses it in his vehicles and swears it works great. I'm getting ready to replace coolant and might try this. Requires a fairly lengthy flush/purge process to remove all water but once you do the liquid is suppose to work much better than traditional coolant/water.

[BigRed]

I've never even heard of it but it definitely peeked my interest.

[canuckrider]

This was featured on one of the PowerBlock shows on Spike this past Sunday morning. You have to make sure that you purge all the water from the system and then use a "prep" fluid as well and completely purge it too. Then you finally add the waterless coolant. One drawback that they pointed out was that if you ever have to top up the cooling system in an emergency situation, you cannot use water, only the special coolant.

My thought is that it may be a good product for a high performance vehicle where engine temp is a critical factor, but for the average Joe who uses their car or bike on the street, the benefit probably isn't worth the extra expense, time or trouble.

[OldSchool]

What are the exact benefits of using this product over other coolants. Is there that much of a difference that it is worth the effort and expense ??

[Badger: Black Hills]

Have you had an overheating problem that prompts you to do this?

[macmac]

Is it silica , and borate free?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

What are the exact benefits of using this product over other coolants. Is there that much of a difference that it is worth the effort and expense ??

You don't have to answer my question. Here ya go guys.

[OldSchool]

It sounds like it may be worth trying. I'm not a mechanical guru by any means. This did bring up a question that I need a guru to answer for me. The evans coolant won't boil until it reaches an operating temperature of 375 degrees. Can an aluminum engine reach operating temperatures of 375 degrees and if it can, would it still operate without the risk of serious damage ?

http://www.evanscoolants.com/index.html

[Jared]

Try it out and let us know your thoughts. :)

[macmac]

I tried to understand the Evans bit, but they say the same things over and over and don't state any specs or detail. i won't lose any sleep wondering what it will do to the water pump seals, or hoses because i will stay with silica and borate free coolant. Nomads need coolant for alloy engines and Evans never said that.

[recumbentbob]

I've used engine ice for years with great results

[Jllm02199]

Originally Posted by ubernomad

Anyone try this in their bike? A friend uses it in his vehicles and swears it works great. I'm getting ready to replace coolant and might try this. Requires a fairly lengthy flush/purge process to remove all water but once you do the liquid is suppose to work much better than traditional coolant/water.

I've been using it for 12 years. Great product.

[Jllm02199]

Originally Posted by macmac

I tried to understand the Evans bit, but they say the same things over and over and don't state any specs or detail. i won't lose any sleep wondering what it will do to the water pump seals, or hoses because i will stay with silica and borate free coolant. Nomads need coolant for alloy engines and Evans never said that.

It won't do anything to seals or water pump but make them last longer.
You don't have to change it because it doesn't turn to acid and eat gaskets like glycol. It won't boil till 400 degrees, it wont freeze till 70 below.
It eliminates the hot spots around the cylinder walls. I don't know of any bad things to say other than it is more expensive but since I haven't had to change it, the price offsets.

Molecular adhesion: It sticks closer the the cylinder walls that makes heat transfer easier therefore allowing the radiator to expel heat easier.

[Jllm02199]

http://tinyurl.com/l4nskpl Website.

[OldSchool]

Okay I did allot of reading and watching Tubies on the subject of Evans Waterless Coolant. I found out enough for myself to decide whether I wanted to try this product or not. First the product is an excellent product for any engine that you are planning on running to the extreme. Evans will " NOT " make your engine run cooler. It will help your engine operate safer at higher temperatures. Does eliminate corrosion because of the no water factor. Low pressure in the system, and one time only change is all pluses. Downside is that you do not know if your engine is overheating or not until something else fails on the bike. Some have reported that the engine got so hot that it melted the middle out of their plastic fan thus the fan did not work on their bike. Heat failures due to other parts that are connected to the engine are a true concern. Plus there is no time lines mentioned as to how long you can operate the vehicle at these higher temperatures. Once again this is a product which is dictated by personal choice. In my case I just don't really feel that i need a product like this. I would rather go with "Engine Ice" that does allow your engine to run a bit cooler. When your engine starts overheating with regular coolant, all kinds of bells and whistles start going off. I'm not sure I want to give that up. I think I would rather keep that warning system at the level it is at now. Think it is a great product for what its made for and if I was running engines to the extreme there would be no doubt this is what I would use.

Disclaimer: This statement is not intended to be an expert opinion. Please consult a certified motorcycle mechanic for more detailed expert advice.