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08-06-2016, 09:32 PM | #1 |
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car vs motorcycle brake line
I have what is, I'm sure, a stupid question.
I need to extend my brake lines. I am going to install 12" bagger bars for some height on my Nomad. I have 10" bars right now, and I am maxed on length of the brake and clutch lines. Motorcycle cables are 100+, while I can get automotive lines for 6 dollars + fittings (25 bucks total, I think). Is there any difference between auto and motorcycle lines? Logic would dictate the auto can take more abuse (given the weight of the car, vs motorcycle). All my other cables should be fine in length, just the clutch and brake need to be lengthened. Thanks in advance!
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Car's use slid steel and rubber flex lines near the calipers or anywhere they cannot use solid. Bike are the opposite and usually use rubber flex lines and some steel line where they can if possible. Solid is superior however cannot always be used due to other factors.
Adding a piece to lengthen a flex hose is not recommended IMO and would create a new piece the proper length required. Have you tried moving the cables underneath triple tree and the risers instead of on top where they typically are? |
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08-06-2016, 10:05 PM | #3 |
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I have tried relocating. I will give that one more shot. I can replace the entire 36" rubber hose for the 6 bucks. That's why it sounded like such a good thing. I did find, however, that I can buy brake line for motorcycles in various lengths for about 25 bucks. Might just do that.
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Thanks for link but why is it when I search Google, Amazon and Ebay I come up with one hit and it's the same price as manufacturer? Is there website I can purchase lines over the winter cheaper?
KAWASAKI VULCAN 1700 VOYAGER FRONT BRAKE LINE KIT Part #: S-KA0355 https://www.amazon.com/Spiegler-S-KA...gler++S-KA0355 Quote:
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I don't know, but you probably need custom lines from the master cylinders to wherever they connect. Either that or not do the project.
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I'm following and appreciate the link. I have to look at the brake line for the front and see if I can do just to the splitter or all the way to the calipers. I'd like low cost but I'm not stupid enough to skimp safety. If the brake lines are relatively the same, shouldn't be a problem. If mc brake lines are different, then I will stick with them. I was trying to avoid 400 dollars in brake and clutch lines.
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08-07-2016, 11:52 AM | #13 |
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I found this site. Less cost, and full customization. I need to measure, then I will be buying.
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to answer your original question and refocus the first response....
no...there really is no difference...both are subjected to similar pressures and conditions...the weight of a vehicle does not effect the brake lines...only exposure and age... brake hoses are used where lines have to flex due to suspension and steering system operation...steel lines are used for long runs along stationary portions of a vehicle....steel is more cost effective and durable than hose...period... if you can find automotive type hoses and or lines to fit they will work as well as motorcycle specific ones....in general they are not as cosmetically appealing as automotive brake hydraulic components are generally hidden from view.... |
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alright - follow up question: I see that you can run a dual bolt, which would have 2 separate hoses connected to it. I have two front rotors, is there a reason that I can't run individual lines to the front rotors instead of having that splitter on the fork? The splitter that is there can't be modified, so I would have to replace it anyways, and run new lines. That would make 3 lines, as opposed to two longer lines, if I can run two separate lines.
You can see the dual hose fitting on the bottom right of this picture.
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