First Breakdown

cliff1600 · 05-15-2009, 08:50 AM

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Hi,

Anyone ever have a problem with there rear header pipe failing?

Hi,

Anyone ever have a problem with there rear header pipe failing?

Out riding yesterday when I noticed that the bike was running funny could not figure what was going on then as I was upshifting I heard backfire,this was just when I went by a Yahama Dealer,then it seemed ok so I kept on going,stopped in a auto parts store thinking I might check the plugs to see if one came loose they wanted to much for a ratchet( I realized after I could have used the one on the bike duh).

Decided to keep on going when about ten miles later just as I go by a little hole in the wall place that restores Classis & BMW motorcycles I hear something real bad,I turn around stop in and tell the man I don't know what happened. Tells me to start the bike looks down says I have a hole in my exhaust rear cyl,that is a little pressure off as I thought it was a hole in the rear cylinder.What happens next is being in the right place at the right time. Lloyd gave me a screwdriver tells me to take off the heat shield,When I get that off the pipe was broken all the way through,he was able to weld it together and had me on my way for very little money.

If you are ever in Pittsford, VT, look up Nickwackett Garage say Hi to Lloyd.

Had I stopped at the Dealership I would still be there waiting for a whole exahust system.

Called Vance & Hines today talked to Scott ordered a New pipe that will take maybe a month to get also ,was told that this can happen between 40,000 to 60,000 miles.

thank you Cliff1600

Out riding yesterday when I noticed that the bike was running funny could not figure what was going on then as I was upshifting I heard backfire,this was just when I went by a Yahama Dealer,then it seemed ok so I kept on going,stopped in a auto parts store thinking I might check the plugs to see if one came loose they wanted to much for a ratchet( I realized after I could have used the one on the bike duh).

Decided to keep on going when about ten miles later just as I go by a little hole in the wall place that restores Classis & BMW motorcycles I hear something real bad,I turn around stop in and tell the man I don't know what happened. Tells me to start the bike looks down says I have a hole in my exhaust rear cyl,that is a little pressure off as I thought it was a hole in the rear cylinder.What happens next is being in the right place at the right time. Lloyd gave me a screwdriver tells me to take off the heat shield,When I get that off the pipe was broken all the way through,he was able to weld it together and had me on my way for very little money.

If you are ever in Pittsford, VT, look up Nickwackett Garage say Hi to Lloyd.

Had I stopped at the Dealership I would still be there waiting for a whole exahust system.

Called Vance & Hines today talked to Scott ordered a New pipe that will take maybe a month to get also ,was told that this can happen between 40,000 to 60,000 miles.

thank you Cliff1600

:'(

cactusjack · 05-15-2009, 09:27 AM

This is a widely-known issue with Vance & Hines pipes, except to V&H themselves, who refuse to acknowledge the problem.

blowndodge · 05-15-2009, 12:03 PM

I don't know about you but I'm starting to see double!!!!

waterman · 05-15-2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

I don't know about you but I'm starting to see double!!!!

BD,

Lay off of those special cigars. ::)

macmac · 05-15-2009, 06:35 PM

it's the black flies making you crazy....

Yellow Jacket · 05-15-2009, 07:19 PM

At least it wasn't a breakdown of the Nomad! Now if Vance & Hines could make a product with the quality of the Nomad. . . .

**ringadingh** · 05-15-2009, 07:27 PM

That same problem has happened to me twice in the past. If yours cracks again as mine did the first time have them weld a patch over the crack, it seems that this is the permanent cure.

cliff1600 · 05-16-2009, 09:20 AM

how long did your weld last?

**ringadingh** · 05-16-2009, 06:25 PM

The first time I welded just the crack with a mig welder, mine was broken all the way around at the first bend of the pipe. It last only 3-4 weeks if I remember correctly. The second time I welded the pipe the same way again, but used a tig welder instead, then I made a patch and tig welded that over the cracked are. I think my patch was about 3" x 3" and I heated it with a torch and tapped it to form it to the shape of the pipe. Its held well ever since and I doubt it will ever be a problem again.

dogdoc · 05-16-2009, 09:48 PM

Thats what I will do IF mine ever breaks.

watchman · 05-17-2009, 06:46 AM

The rear pipe on the wife's bike did that last summer. I called V & H and they would not even discuss the problem just offer us a new pipe for something like $88.00. I told them this should be a wararanty repair. The guy wanted to know how long we had had the pipes. When I told him 4 years I heard him giggle and said they where out of warranty. We did the patch fix and it is still holding.

05-15-2009, 08:50 AM	#1
cliff1600 Jr. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 35	First Breakdown :(" title="" border="0"/> From: cliff1600 May-14 1:28 pm To: ALL (1 of 3) 88346.1 Hi, Anyone ever have a problem with there rear header pipe failing? Hi, Anyone ever have a problem with there rear header pipe failing? Out riding yesterday when I noticed that the bike was running funny could not figure what was going on then as I was upshifting I heard backfire,this was just when I went by a Yahama Dealer,then it seemed ok so I kept on going,stopped in a auto parts store thinking I might check the plugs to see if one came loose they wanted to much for a ratchet( I realized after I could have used the one on the bike duh). Decided to keep on going when about ten miles later just as I go by a little hole in the wall place that restores Classis & BMW motorcycles I hear something real bad,I turn around stop in and tell the man I don't know what happened. Tells me to start the bike looks down says I have a hole in my exhaust rear cyl,that is a little pressure off as I thought it was a hole in the rear cylinder.What happens next is being in the right place at the right time. Lloyd gave me a screwdriver tells me to take off the heat shield,When I get that off the pipe was broken all the way through,he was able to weld it together and had me on my way for very little money. If you are ever in Pittsford, VT, look up Nickwackett Garage say Hi to Lloyd. Had I stopped at the Dealership I would still be there waiting for a whole exahust system. Called Vance & Hines today talked to Scott ordered a New pipe that will take maybe a month to get also ,was told that this can happen between 40,000 to 60,000 miles. thank you Cliff1600 Out riding yesterday when I noticed that the bike was running funny could not figure what was going on then as I was upshifting I heard backfire,this was just when I went by a Yahama Dealer,then it seemed ok so I kept on going,stopped in a auto parts store thinking I might check the plugs to see if one came loose they wanted to much for a ratchet( I realized after I could have used the one on the bike duh). Decided to keep on going when about ten miles later just as I go by a little hole in the wall place that restores Classis & BMW motorcycles I hear something real bad,I turn around stop in and tell the man I don't know what happened. Tells me to start the bike looks down says I have a hole in my exhaust rear cyl,that is a little pressure off as I thought it was a hole in the rear cylinder.What happens next is being in the right place at the right time. Lloyd gave me a screwdriver tells me to take off the heat shield,When I get that off the pipe was broken all the way through,he was able to weld it together and had me on my way for very little money. If you are ever in Pittsford, VT, look up Nickwackett Garage say Hi to Lloyd. Had I stopped at the Dealership I would still be there waiting for a whole exahust system. Called Vance & Hines today talked to Scott ordered a New pipe that will take maybe a month to get also ,was told that this can happen between 40,000 to 60,000 miles. thank you Cliff1600 :'( Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-15-2009, 07:19 PM	#6
Yellow Jacket Top Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fayetteville, Georgia Posts: 5,792	First Breakdown At least it wasn't a breakdown of the Nomad! Now if Vance & Hines could make a product with the quality of the Nomad. . . . __________________ Bob KawaNOW/VBA 210 Green/Silver 2006 Patriot Guard Riders 2009
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05-15-2009, 07:27 PM	#7
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	First Breakdown That same problem has happened to me twice in the past. If yours cracks again as mine did the first time have them weld a patch over the crack, it seems that this is the permanent cure. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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05-16-2009, 09:20 AM	#8
cliff1600 Jr. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 35	First Breakdown how long did your weld last?
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05-16-2009, 06:25 PM	#9
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	First Breakdown The first time I welded just the crack with a mig welder, mine was broken all the way around at the first bend of the pipe. It last only 3-4 weeks if I remember correctly. The second time I welded the pipe the same way again, but used a tig welder instead, then I made a patch and tig welded that over the cracked are. I think my patch was about 3" x 3" and I heated it with a torch and tapped it to form it to the shape of the pipe. Its held well ever since and I doubt it will ever be a problem again. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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05-16-2009, 09:48 PM	#10
dogdoc Top Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,263	First Breakdown Thats what I will do IF mine ever breaks.
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05-17-2009, 06:46 AM	#11
watchman Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Macon, Missouri Posts: 1,175	First Breakdown The rear pipe on the wife's bike did that last summer. I called V & H and they would not even discuss the problem just offer us a new pipe for something like $88.00. I told them this should be a wararanty repair. The guy wanted to know how long we had had the pipes. When I told him 4 years I heard him giggle and said they where out of warranty. We did the patch fix and it is still holding.
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