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01-01-2011, 10:54 AM | #1 |
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The Good news as several of you know is that I just bought a MIG welder to try to learn how to weld so that I can get the price of my jack adapters down to make them more affordable. I have a welding helmet on the way and I'm looking forward to this adventure.
The Bad News is that my jack adapter design has been ripped off and is now being sold on E-Bay. GRRRRRRRr. I just posted in our for sale section that I have four adapters available for my cost if anyone wants them. I need the cash for further development. So let's hope that I can learn to weld and turn these out cheaper than the rat ba$tard who ripped off my design. I really want to continue to do this and provide a great product that will be a good value and get these bikes lifted safely.
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01-01-2011, 11:04 AM | #2 | |
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I wonder if he bought one from you? Do you know who he is?
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01-01-2011, 11:36 AM | #4 |
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Ponch I have no idea who this is. His E-Bay posting does not list a location.
Loafer, I appreciate the sentiment. I can't guarantee what the quality will be like from now on because I really do have to learn to weld and start from ground zero.
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01-01-2011, 11:40 AM | #5 |
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That really sucks, hopefully its not a member here that did that.
Making them yourself should allow you to be able to produce them for a lot less. Some metal suppliers have a scrap bin where they sell cutoffs at a greatly reduced price. Since you only require rather short lenths of tubing, it would be worth your while to check out some vendors. It could save you a bunch on your material costs.
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01-01-2011, 11:42 AM | #6 |
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We have a couple of steel suppliers here in town and I plan to visit both of them.
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01-01-2011, 11:50 AM | #7 |
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If you have a place that fabricates iron railings or trailers, they should use a lot of square tubing as well, and may sell you some cutoffs rather cheap.
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01-01-2011, 11:56 AM | #8 |
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Ring!! That is a great idea. Now my search has expanded.
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01-01-2011, 12:01 PM | #9 |
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Once the better weather hits youll have a reason to go riding around looking for your metal. And you can bring the smaller bits home on the bike. ;)
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01-01-2011, 01:20 PM | #10 |
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I like the way you think Ring. Thanks again
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01-01-2011, 01:52 PM | #11 |
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Bud, if you haven't already, build yourself a jig that you drop all of the pieces in to tack them up. No framing square or diagonal measurements needed. Saves plenty of time. Also, if you don't have a circular chop saw, look into one. Saves a whole lot of time and makes square cuts every time. You just have to pass a small triangular file inside of the square tubing to get the sharp knife edge out.
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01-01-2011, 01:54 PM | #12 |
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Is it too late to get a patten number on the adapter?? Might be money well spent. I'm just trying to think if there's a way to stop the rip off guy from doing business. That's how I think.
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01-01-2011, 02:11 PM | #13 |
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Ricky, I've been selling these online since the fall of 2007. Apparently to get a patent you have to apply before they are made available to the public. I'm screwed unless I can get my costs down. I will.
Good idea Mitch. I may be buying more tools before this is all over. I'm already thinking about a paint booth of sorts. Don't want to paint these in my garage. Wife would be mad forever if I try to paint them in the basement. fumes and all. I am going to ask the machinist who has been making these for me if he has a jig that I can buy from him. I will bet that he does but the question will be whether he is willing to sell it to me. We will see. He and I have done a lot of business over the years so who knows.
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01-01-2011, 02:29 PM | #14 |
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That's what I figured. Well good luck Bud. I pretty much taught myself how to weld. So I'm sure you'll have no problem. I hear you about a place to do things though. I would be doing a few things if I only had a place,....i.e. shop, to do it all in. I had a good friend that let me set up a small area in his shop to do whatever I wanted to do to my bike, car, or whatever. It was great. Unfortunately for him he had a dental problem and didn't take some medication for an infection and the poison got into his system and he passed away on us. I miss his friendship a lot. I miss the opportunity he gave to me so freely also. .....................
I believe things happen for a reason. Maybe having your idea ripped off is to get you to learn to weld, and move on and produce, and maybe expand on your adapter. You might find this to be a good thing, is what I'm trying to say. Turn this negative into a positive. best of luck Bud, you'll do great!
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On another note, my Dad paid $10,000+ for a patent on a prototype of adjustable masonry scaffolds he invented. He couldn't get anybody to mass produce them for him. He was leary about building them himself because of liability issues. That money went down the drain. This was about 25 years ago.
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