1500 just quit at 60 mph....

vv0350 · 06-07-2009, 03:01 PM

My 2002 Nomad has about 5,500 miles...took off on a trip to Arkansas last week and about 65 miles from home and at about 60 mph...it just quit running...would NOT restart..it would turn over....pleanty of gas..
The bike is stock except for the power commander.....trailered it to the local shop which is a Honda shop and they looked at it..found a 15 amp fuse under the seat that had burned out..replaced it and during a test drive it blew again....and again...they think it is a bad short but where?? The shop mgr thinks it may be a bad power commander...but they just have no good clue for sure...any ideas..it has never done this before or given me a moments problem...always started right up quickly and run fine...

**Cajunrider** · 06-07-2009, 03:14 PM

Look for a pinched or nicked wire that could be shorting out. If none are found, disconnect the PC and take it for a test ride. If the fuse doesn't blow, that would narrow it down quickly. What circuit is this 15 amp fuse protecting?

vv0350 · 06-07-2009, 03:20 PM

I'm not sure..I think they said it was on the fuel pump circut which only draws about 7 amps..maybe the power commander is on it too...

cactusjack · 06-07-2009, 03:51 PM

I blew the same fuse when one of the wires to my idle control solenoids shorted out. To find out of it's the power commander, disconnect it and connect the wires back to the injectors. I really think you have a wire that's shorted out somewhere. This could be hard to find.

dogdoc · 06-07-2009, 04:30 PM

Really hard.

Scoot · 06-07-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc (Lonewolf)

Really hard.

yep

macmac · 06-07-2009, 06:44 PM

15 amp fuse under the seat? My memory might be bad, but the only fuse I recall under the seat is alone. The main fuse and it is rated at 30 amps..

So far as I recall all the rest of the stock fuses are under the right side cover with the coolant.

I always speak in right / left as seated..

There is a known issue where the wire harness running up and over cly 2 on the left (as seated) rubs thru.

If you can ID this fuse better, so long as it is stock I have a year 2000 book I can look it up in.

**coacha** · 06-07-2009, 08:54 PM

On my '99, the main fuse is in the right side cover, with the coolant overflow. The fuse block is in front of the battery. I don't remember seeing any 15 amp fuses, but the main fuse is 30 amp.

**BudMan** · 06-07-2009, 09:40 PM

I don't know about an 02'.... but on an 06' thats the ECU's fuse.
At least that's what the manual says. It also fuses the extra elec. connection
under the seat.

**billmac** · 06-10-2009, 11:19 PM

With all my bling, a 15 amp main fuse would not have a chance.

My fuse under the seat is a 30 amp on my 2007.

I bet Mac or CJ have this problem identified.

macmac · 06-11-2009, 08:59 AM

I am not clear on what fuse this can be. The 1500 has a 30 amp fuse under the seat. So if there is a 15 amp fuse in that holder it is the wrong fuse..

If the power commander has a 15 amp fuse in the first place i wouldn't know why. I can't even guess the PC III uses a 15 amp fuse.

SO just what is this mystery fuse?

Yellow Jacket · 06-11-2009, 04:17 PM

Well, there seems to be some confusion regarding the fuses, their locations and sizes.

On the 2005-2008 models the service manual provides this information:

Main Fuse - 30 amps. This fuse is located behind the right side cover. You have to remove the coolant reservoir tank to gain access to the Starter Relay. The Main fuse is on the Relay assembly. See the following image taken from the manual:

ECU or DFI fuse - 15 amps. This fuse is located beneath the seat and is next to the ECU. This fuse does NOT power the accessory connections under the seat and in the headlight bucket. See the image below:

Fuses in the Junction Box. The accessory connections are powered by fuse A. This is a 10 amp fuse. See image below:

Again, this information comes from the manual for 2005-2008 models. I can't comment on the 1999-2004 as I don't have a manual for those.

Not trying to step on anyone's toes, just hoping to eliminate any possible confusion.

macmac · 06-11-2009, 07:59 PM

Oh great...... Another 6 diodes.. As if 18 in the 2 alternators wasn't enough.....

Yellow Jacket · 06-11-2009, 09:05 PM

Hey Mac, . . . There's 6 more diodes in the front turn/running lights as well! ! !

**BudMan** · 06-11-2009, 10:13 PM

Well, I guess I was half right.
I knew it was the ECU fuse.
My mistake on the acc. connections.
My toes feel fine ;)
Thanks for the info Bob

06-07-2009, 03:01 PM	#1
vv0350 Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 38	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... My 2002 Nomad has about 5,500 miles...took off on a trip to Arkansas last week and about 65 miles from home and at about 60 mph...it just quit running...would NOT restart..it would turn over....pleanty of gas.. The bike is stock except for the power commander.....trailered it to the local shop which is a Honda shop and they looked at it..found a 15 amp fuse under the seat that had burned out..replaced it and during a test drive it blew again....and again...they think it is a bad short but where?? The shop mgr thinks it may be a bad power commander...but they just have no good clue for sure...any ideas..it has never done this before or given me a moments problem...always started right up quickly and run fine... Login or Register to Remove Ads
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06-07-2009, 03:14 PM	#2
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... Look for a pinched or nicked wire that could be shorting out. If none are found, disconnect the PC and take it for a test ride. If the fuse doesn't blow, that would narrow it down quickly. What circuit is this 15 amp fuse protecting? __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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06-07-2009, 03:20 PM	#3
vv0350 Jr. Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 38	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... I'm not sure..I think they said it was on the fuel pump circut which only draws about 7 amps..maybe the power commander is on it too...
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06-07-2009, 03:51 PM	#4
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... I blew the same fuse when one of the wires to my idle control solenoids shorted out. To find out of it's the power commander, disconnect it and connect the wires back to the injectors. I really think you have a wire that's shorted out somewhere. This could be hard to find. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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06-07-2009, 04:30 PM	#5
dogdoc Top Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,263	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... Really hard. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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06-07-2009, 06:44 PM	#7
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... 15 amp fuse under the seat? My memory might be bad, but the only fuse I recall under the seat is alone. The main fuse and it is rated at 30 amps.. So far as I recall all the rest of the stock fuses are under the right side cover with the coolant. I always speak in right / left as seated.. There is a known issue where the wire harness running up and over cly 2 on the left (as seated) rubs thru. If you can ID this fuse better, so long as it is stock I have a year 2000 book I can look it up in. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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06-07-2009, 08:54 PM	#8
coacha Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Haysville, KS Posts: 6,259	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... On my '99, the main fuse is in the right side cover, with the coolant overflow. The fuse block is in front of the battery. I don't remember seeing any 15 amp fuses, but the main fuse is 30 amp. __________________ Ron "Coach" Allan, Haysville, KS 1999 Nomad Wine and Red "KawaTanker" 2009 BMW R1200RT 2003 BMW K1200LT "Magic Carpet" DOA 11/7/2015 VBA #00291 IBA # 41995 DS #320 '08 Elkins, WV; '09 Helen, GA; '09 Custer, SD; '10 Stanton, VA; '11 Maggie Valley; '12 Townsend, TN; '13 Estes Park; '13 Blairsville, GA; '15 Eureka Springs; '16 Helen; '18 Custer, SD
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06-07-2009, 09:40 PM	#9
BudMan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Greenwood, Ark. Posts: 4,736	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... I don't know about an 02'.... but on an 06' thats the ECU's fuse. At least that's what the manual says. It also fuses the extra elec. connection under the seat. __________________ Dave Jesse 2012 1700 Gray/Black Voyager 2006 1600 Nomad Green/Silver Sold VBA #1108 2010- Eureka Springs - Antlers - 2011- Maggie Valley - Antlers 2012- Margaritaville Ride - Van Buren - Antlers - 2013- Estes Park - Antlers 2014- Mountain View - Antlers - 2015- Eureka Springs - Antlers 2016- Salem - Antlers - 2017- Eureka Springs - Lake George - Antlers - 2018- Custer - Antlers
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06-10-2009, 11:19 PM	#10
billmac Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,472	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... With all my bling, a 15 amp main fuse would not have a chance. My fuse under the seat is a 30 amp on my 2007. I bet Mac or CJ have this problem identified.
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06-11-2009, 08:59 AM	#11
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... I am not clear on what fuse this can be. The 1500 has a 30 amp fuse under the seat. So if there is a 15 amp fuse in that holder it is the wrong fuse.. If the power commander has a 15 amp fuse in the first place i wouldn't know why. I can't even guess the PC III uses a 15 amp fuse. SO just what is this mystery fuse? __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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06-11-2009, 04:17 PM	#12
Yellow Jacket Top Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fayetteville, Georgia Posts: 5,792	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... Well, there seems to be some confusion regarding the fuses, their locations and sizes. On the 2005-2008 models the service manual provides this information: Main Fuse - 30 amps. This fuse is located behind the right side cover. You have to remove the coolant reservoir tank to gain access to the Starter Relay. The Main fuse is on the Relay assembly. See the following image taken from the manual: ECU or DFI fuse - 15 amps. This fuse is located beneath the seat and is next to the ECU. This fuse does NOT power the accessory connections under the seat and in the headlight bucket. See the image below: Fuses in the Junction Box. The accessory connections are powered by fuse A. This is a 10 amp fuse. See image below: Again, this information comes from the manual for 2005-2008 models. I can't comment on the 1999-2004 as I don't have a manual for those. Not trying to step on anyone's toes, just hoping to eliminate any possible confusion. __________________ Bob KawaNOW/VBA 210 Green/Silver 2006 Patriot Guard Riders 2009
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06-11-2009, 07:59 PM	#13
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... Oh great...... Another 6 diodes.. As if 18 in the 2 alternators wasn't enough..... __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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06-11-2009, 09:05 PM	#14
Yellow Jacket Top Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fayetteville, Georgia Posts: 5,792	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... Hey Mac, . . . There's 6 more diodes in the front turn/running lights as well! ! ! __________________ Bob KawaNOW/VBA 210 Green/Silver 2006 Patriot Guard Riders 2009
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06-11-2009, 10:13 PM	#15
BudMan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Greenwood, Ark. Posts: 4,736	1500 just quit at 60 mph.... Well, I guess I was half right. I knew it was the ECU fuse. My mistake on the acc. connections. My toes feel fine ;) Thanks for the info Bob __________________ Dave Jesse 2012 1700 Gray/Black Voyager 2006 1600 Nomad Green/Silver Sold VBA #1108 2010- Eureka Springs - Antlers - 2011- Maggie Valley - Antlers 2012- Margaritaville Ride - Van Buren - Antlers - 2013- Estes Park - Antlers 2014- Mountain View - Antlers - 2015- Eureka Springs - Antlers 2016- Salem - Antlers - 2017- Eureka Springs - Lake George - Antlers - 2018- Custer - Antlers
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