CAMCHAIN extender measurements - Page 3

mick56 · 10-15-2018, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

Why not just have Joe (Chuckster) make a set that take up more slack?

He already has everything he needs.

Have him ship to one of us to forward, if it makes it easier.

I thank you for the thought mate.But i am off the road at the minute.And while riding a bicycle is shaping up my arse real tidy,it aint a lot of fun.

I am going with these chains,because they will be here in a couple of days.Just hoping i dont need the cam sprockets too,or plastic slippers to hold it all in place.Time will tell.I thank you,and everyone else,for their input.Much obliged to all

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cam-Chain...2/152647182587

Jllm02199 · 10-15-2018, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

Why not just have Joe (Chuckster) make a set that take up more slack?

He already has everything he needs.

Have him ship to one of us to forward, if it makes it easier.

Tim,
That’s where I got mine.

Brydgy · 10-16-2018, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brydgy

Mick, going to take one to work Monday night as my caliper battery is done and won’t be heading out anywhere today. Sorry for the delay.

Inside dia. .390
Outside dia. .685
Length. .474
Hole depth to shoulder .200 ( doesn’t include depth to drilled tip of hole )

Hope this helps.

mick56 · 10-16-2018, 08:57 AM

Thanks mate.

Just got to convert that to metric now.

Peg · 10-16-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mick56

Thanks mate.

Just got to convert that to metric now.

"Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet." Quote attributed to Dave Barry

mick56 · 10-16-2018, 05:39 PM

Peg.
"Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet." Quote attributed to Dave Barry

So much easier in metric.

10mm
17.5mm
12mm
5mm

Bridgy

redjay · 10-16-2018, 06:22 PM

I was working in metric and imperial depending on where the machinery I was building was going. Metric is much easier in my opinion.

Brydgy · 10-17-2018, 09:25 AM

Having been raised with the imperial system and then forced changed to metric, I would also agree that metric is much easier yet old habits die hard.

mick56 · 10-18-2018, 02:54 AM

The UK went metric in 1970,just as i was leaving school.And despite working in metres & millimeters all my life,i still think in feet & inches.The currency i picked up on overnight.

mick56 · 10-26-2018, 04:17 PM

This new camchain has 10in+ side slack,from the centre.That dont seem right for a premium chain.What do you blokes think ?

redjay · 10-26-2018, 04:53 PM

Seems like a lot to me. I don't think a larger size chain would have that much side play.

Can you compare it to your old chain or do you not have the engine apart yet ?

mick56 · 10-26-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by redjay

Seems like a lot to me. I don't think a larger size chain would have that much side play.

Can you compare it to your old chain or do you not have the engine apart yet ?

I have'nt got the old chains off yet mate.I got the engine out,on the deck,and cleaned up.What a bastard of a job that was on my own.The strange thing is,the old chain is tight with the extenders on.But i do have marks on the plug tubes,so new chains it will get.These new chains,are supposed to be the best,and cost twice what Kawasaki want.But with that much slack on them,i have to wonder.Looking forward to winding the crank with a socket,while feeding the chain through,and finding the timing mark on the crank.Then joining the chain with the other 2 spare hands.

DragonLady58 · 10-26-2018, 06:45 PM

Hey Mick! OK, regular chain has a 'X' amount of side slack....too much its outta spec., needs changing....since we're really not worried about cam walk, as in a automotive app....I would not really loose any sleep over it....
I've changed many a CB750, Kz900-1000, GS1000-1100 timing chain with new ones that had what you got there....
Because the total length, and the cam and crank sprockets more or less fixed, and a slack adjuster, side flex shouldn't be a issue.
Whether this is correct, I don't know....but they don't really say in the manuals. On timing chains, we're more worried about slack in the chain, Pin to sidebar elongation, and roller stress cracks.....
These chains are held tight by tensioners, have a clean oil bath for lubrication, and a held straight by shoes or chain guides....

The measurement that checks the chains is over several links, you should have a 'X' amount roller to roller 'length'....checked by mic'ing or using dial/digital calipers....
Just my 2 pecos.....
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mick56 · 10-26-2018, 10:57 PM

Thank you for that.I reckon i will just pour another cold one,and crack on.

mick56 · 10-29-2018, 06:07 PM

For those that have never fitted a new cam chain.It is not easy.The fiddling about,trying to line up the 3 parts,while holding them in place to be riveted.Is a job i would farm out,if given the option.It is a close run thing between that,and tugging the motor apart,and fitting genuine parts.

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mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Peg. "Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet." Quote attributed to Dave Barry So much easier in metric. 10mm 17.5mm 12mm 5mm Bridgy __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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Brydgy Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada Posts: 115	Having been raised with the imperial system and then forced changed to metric, I would also agree that metric is much easier yet old habits die hard. __________________ Brydgy 2003 Nomad 1500Fi V & H pipes MS Batwing Meanie spring with Judges washers Phat risers ‘97 Royal Star rear fender rack
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10-18-2018, 02:54 AM	#39
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	The UK went metric in 1970,just as i was leaving school.And despite working in metres & millimeters all my life,i still think in feet & inches.The currency i picked up on overnight. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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10-26-2018, 06:45 PM	#43
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	Hey Mick! OK, regular chain has a 'X' amount of side slack....too much its outta spec., needs changing....since we're really not worried about cam walk, as in a automotive app....I would not really loose any sleep over it.... I've changed many a CB750, Kz900-1000, GS1000-1100 timing chain with new ones that had what you got there.... Because the total length, and the cam and crank sprockets more or less fixed, and a slack adjuster, side flex shouldn't be a issue. Whether this is correct, I don't know....but they don't really say in the manuals. On timing chains, we're more worried about slack in the chain, Pin to sidebar elongation, and roller stress cracks..... These chains are held tight by tensioners, have a clean oil bath for lubrication, and a held straight by shoes or chain guides.... The measurement that checks the chains is over several links, you should have a 'X' amount roller to roller 'length'....checked by mic'ing or using dial/digital calipers.... Just my 2 pecos..... https://www.testingautos.com/car_car...-replaced.html __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride! Last edited by DragonLady58; 10-26-2018 at 07:04 PM.
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10-16-2018, 06:22 PM	#37
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,929	I was working in metric and imperial depending on where the machinery I was building was going. Metric is much easier in my opinion.
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10-26-2018, 04:53 PM	#41
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,929	Seems like a lot to me. I don't think a larger size chain would have that much side play. Can you compare it to your old chain or do you not have the engine apart yet ?
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10-26-2018, 10:57 PM	#44
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Thank you for that.I reckon i will just pour another cold one,and crack on. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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10-29-2018, 06:07 PM	#45
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	For those that have never fitted a new cam chain.It is not easy.The fiddling about,trying to line up the 3 parts,while holding them in place to be riveted.Is a job i would farm out,if given the option.It is a close run thing between that,and tugging the motor apart,and fitting genuine parts. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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