Belt Drive

blowndodge · 03-28-2011, 10:37 PM

I have a question for you 1700 belt drive boys.

It you throw a belt or break it what would you have to dismantle to put a new one on?

I'm thinking pulling the shock and dropping the swing arm if the front pulley is in line with it. ::)

**Jared** · 03-28-2011, 11:16 PM

If it would have happened on my old VN 900 all you would have to do is remove the rear tire, which has the rear pulley on it and remove a small engine cover, under the left side cover, which give you access to the front pulley.

Sin City Stan · 03-29-2011, 07:42 PM

Drop the tire. Or just call Triple A.

**glwilson** · 03-29-2011, 07:49 PM

...and you're asking for what reason ???

gv550 · 03-29-2011, 08:12 PM

I've replaced mine twice.
The rear wheel does not need to be removed.
The axle does not need to be removed but needs to be loose for adjustment. The swingarm does not need to be removed but the pivot shaft does need to be pulled to allow the swingarm to slide rearward enough to slide the belt past. The rear caliper has to come off (or the hose disconnected) and the ABS sensor to allow the swingarm to move back. The complete exhaust system has to come off to get to the swingarm pivot nut.
The left shock needs to come off.
The clutch slave cylinder needs to be removed, then the front pulley cover, and the front pulley (requires an impact wrench and special holder tool) because the pulley has a flange that is too close to the transmission housing to get the belt on.
The whole job takes about an hour with proper tools.

Garry

drno · 03-30-2011, 07:43 AM

U have a 1700 and have replaced your belt twice ?

gv550 · 03-30-2011, 10:37 AM

Yes.

**markclark57** · 03-30-2011, 11:39 AM

Gary,
Just curious, what caused your belt failure?

gv550 · 03-30-2011, 03:37 PM

The first belt was replaced at 45,000 kms, due to noise and wear on the side of the belt and pulley flanges. I made my own motor mounts to align the engine pulley to the rear pulley so the belt now runs in the center of both pulleys and there has been no more noise or wear.
The second belt was replaced at 110,000 due to a stone puncturing an 18mm hole in the 28mm wide belt. I actually rode it 10k with the hole in the belt while waiting for a new one on backorder. The stock belt guard leaves a section of belt exposed beside the rear tire and a stone can easily get lodged in there. I added a section of plastic to extend my belt guard and have had no more problems with stone damage.
140,000 on the bike now.

Garry

drno · 03-30-2011, 04:47 PM

WOW 140,000 on a bike design thats only been out for just barely two years !
You are a biking GOD !

**glwilson** · 03-30-2011, 05:58 PM

That is clearly more riding than any one I have ever known. Geez... I am jealous.

blowndodge · 03-30-2011, 06:53 PM

140K kilometers is roughly 90K miles.... Still amazing...

Dave · 03-30-2011, 07:05 PM

He must know Marty.

**glwilson** · 03-30-2011, 07:51 PM

Good point BD... but still... 90k in couple years?

That type of mileage is usually done by local/regional truck drivers driving a 40 hour week.

For one year that would be an average of 123 miles per day for 365 days straight. This was done over a two-year period. Even if the bike was 2 1/2 years old, that is still a lot of miles.

Not sure where or how he is riding that much, unless he is paid to ride every day... or is retired and just simply rides that much.

If the later... I am still jealous. ;)

Would like to know the area he lives in. I may want to move there.

gv550 · 03-31-2011, 07:15 AM

I live in Ontario, Canada.
I bought the Voyager in May, '09 and traded in our '05 Nomad with 239k on it at the time. The Nomad was resold and is still touring across Canada, likely has close to 300k on it now.
I also have a Kawasaki Drifter, 210k on it.
Before switching to Kawasaki bikes in 2002, I rode BMWs for 600,000 kms.
Nobody pays me to ride.
I don't know Marty.

Garry

03-28-2011, 10:37 PM	#1
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Belt Drive I have a question for you 1700 belt drive boys. It you throw a belt or break it what would you have to dismantle to put a new one on? I'm thinking pulling the shock and dropping the swing arm if the front pulley is in line with it. ::) __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-28-2011, 11:16 PM	#2
Jared Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 6,772	Belt Drive If it would have happened on my old VN 900 all you would have to do is remove the rear tire, which has the rear pulley on it and remove a small engine cover, under the left side cover, which give you access to the front pulley. __________________ Jared VBA #1051 (Former President)
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03-29-2011, 07:42 PM	#3
Sin City Stan Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,746	Belt Drive Drop the tire. Or just call Triple A. __________________ Oldest Saloon In Nevada http://www.pioneersaloon.info/ "Sin City Stan" Henderson, NV VBA #01004 VROC #29365 2004 Nomad 1500L5 +100 "The Bike" 2009 Nomad 1700 (past) 2004 Vulcan Classic 800 (past) 2010 Cortez - 2011 Crescent City - 2012 Kanab - 2013 Estes Park
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03-29-2011, 07:49 PM	#4
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Belt Drive ...and you're asking for what reason ??? __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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03-29-2011, 08:12 PM	#5
gv550 Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Listowel, Ontario Posts: 642	Belt Drive I've replaced mine twice. The rear wheel does not need to be removed. The axle does not need to be removed but needs to be loose for adjustment. The swingarm does not need to be removed but the pivot shaft does need to be pulled to allow the swingarm to slide rearward enough to slide the belt past. The rear caliper has to come off (or the hose disconnected) and the ABS sensor to allow the swingarm to move back. The complete exhaust system has to come off to get to the swingarm pivot nut. The left shock needs to come off. The clutch slave cylinder needs to be removed, then the front pulley cover, and the front pulley (requires an impact wrench and special holder tool) because the pulley has a flange that is too close to the transmission housing to get the belt on. The whole job takes about an hour with proper tools. Garry __________________ Garry 2009 1700 Voyager KACT, sold at 679,465 kms 2011 1700 Nomad Improve handling, suspension and tire life with Garry's Fork Brace. PM for details. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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03-30-2011, 07:43 AM	#6
drno Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 294	Belt Drive U have a 1700 and have replaced your belt twice ? __________________ Made ya Look
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03-30-2011, 10:37 AM	#7
gv550 Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Listowel, Ontario Posts: 642	Belt Drive Yes. __________________ Garry 2009 1700 Voyager KACT, sold at 679,465 kms 2011 1700 Nomad Improve handling, suspension and tire life with Garry's Fork Brace. PM for details.
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03-30-2011, 11:39 AM	#8
markclark57 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,108	Belt Drive Gary, Just curious, what caused your belt failure? __________________ 2006 Vulcan 1600 Classic "George III" (Patricia's) 2006 Vulcan 1600 Nomad "Grace" (Mark's) Mark Clark VBA #1619 TaibhseDaid@Gmail.Com "Irish" @ Maricopa County Chapter of B.A.C.A. Phoenix, AZ
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03-30-2011, 03:37 PM	#9
gv550 Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Listowel, Ontario Posts: 642	Belt Drive The first belt was replaced at 45,000 kms, due to noise and wear on the side of the belt and pulley flanges. I made my own motor mounts to align the engine pulley to the rear pulley so the belt now runs in the center of both pulleys and there has been no more noise or wear. The second belt was replaced at 110,000 due to a stone puncturing an 18mm hole in the 28mm wide belt. I actually rode it 10k with the hole in the belt while waiting for a new one on backorder. The stock belt guard leaves a section of belt exposed beside the rear tire and a stone can easily get lodged in there. I added a section of plastic to extend my belt guard and have had no more problems with stone damage. 140,000 on the bike now. Garry __________________ Garry 2009 1700 Voyager KACT, sold at 679,465 kms 2011 1700 Nomad Improve handling, suspension and tire life with Garry's Fork Brace. PM for details.
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03-30-2011, 04:47 PM	#10
drno Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 294	Belt Drive WOW 140,000 on a bike design thats only been out for just barely two years ! You are a biking GOD ! __________________ Made ya Look
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03-30-2011, 05:58 PM	#11
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Belt Drive That is clearly more riding than any one I have ever known. Geez... I am jealous. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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03-30-2011, 06:53 PM	#12
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Belt Drive 140K kilometers is roughly 90K miles.... Still amazing... __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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03-30-2011, 07:05 PM	#13
Dave Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Itchycoo Park Posts: 3,422	Belt Drive He must know Marty.
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03-30-2011, 07:51 PM	#14
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Belt Drive Good point BD... but still... 90k in couple years? That type of mileage is usually done by local/regional truck drivers driving a 40 hour week. For one year that would be an average of 123 miles per day for 365 days straight. This was done over a two-year period. Even if the bike was 2 1/2 years old, that is still a lot of miles. Not sure where or how he is riding that much, unless he is paid to ride every day... or is retired and just simply rides that much. If the later... I am still jealous. ;) Would like to know the area he lives in. I may want to move there. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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03-31-2011, 07:15 AM	#15
gv550 Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Listowel, Ontario Posts: 642	Belt Drive I live in Ontario, Canada. I bought the Voyager in May, '09 and traded in our '05 Nomad with 239k on it at the time. The Nomad was resold and is still touring across Canada, likely has close to 300k on it now. I also have a Kawasaki Drifter, 210k on it. Before switching to Kawasaki bikes in 2002, I rode BMWs for 600,000 kms. Nobody pays me to ride. I don't know Marty. Garry __________________ Garry 2009 1700 Voyager KACT, sold at 679,465 kms 2011 1700 Nomad Improve handling, suspension and tire life with Garry's Fork Brace. PM for details.
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