Register FAQ Upgrade Membership Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Go Back   Vulcan Bagger Forums > Technical :: Maintenance :: Performance > 1500 & 1600 Nomad

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-03-2015, 08:51 AM   #1
roadhawg   roadhawg is offline
Advanced Member
 
roadhawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Starke Florida
Posts: 856
Progressive Fork Springs? Yes or No...

Hey all!
Lately I have noticed I am feeling every single lil bump in the road!
A friend suggested installing the Progressive fork spring kit around 85 bucks on EBAY.
I am running about 20 PSI in rear shocks.
Would like to hear about others that have tried these fork springs.
Improve your ride?
Easy to install?
Thanks for your time!
__________________
"Ride it like you stole it"!

2008 1600 Nomad 56K miles "BlueBelle"

2004 1500 Nomad 102 K miles "Black Beauty"

ABATE Black Creek Chapter

Amvet Rider Post 86
http://www.facebook.com/AmvetPost86

Weston A. Price Foundation member.

Vegetarian......
An old Indian word meaning "Bad Hunter"

Legalize Freedom!
Question Authority!

"Im in love with the waitress, and I dont even know her name"
"Boys" Gone Wild" ! Mainstreet Station 2012 Daytona Bikeweek



Login or Register to Remove Ads
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2015, 10:37 AM   #2
id-man   id-man is offline
Advanced Member
 
id-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Cape Cod Massachusetts
Posts: 822
I'm subscribing to this post because I'm having the same issues. I usually ride 2-up and some of the road dips or broken pavement can make the Nomad1500 bottom out unexpectedly, slamming the front and/or rear quite hard. Not big obvious potholes but stuff you you wouldn't suspect or sometimes don't even see. I pumped my factory rear shocks to full 40psi which helped a LOT but we still get jolted sometimes in the rear - and the front needs real help. I'm planning to change the fork oil to heavier viscosity (already have it on the shelf), unless responses to this topic steer me in other directions.
__________________
2004 Nomad 1500FI - weeeeeeeeee!
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2015, 01:02 PM   #3
Top Cat   Top Cat is offline
 
Top Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of New York State
Posts: 15,154
I also am subscribing to this post.
My 08 bottoms out real hard on some of the not so big bumps around here.
__________________
Tim "TC" Conley
VBA #9



2011 Victory Kingpin mine
2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers




[LEFT][COLOR=#000000]
[SIZE=4]
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2015, 02:29 PM   #4
recumbentbob   recumbentbob is offline
Sr. Member
 
recumbentbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Newburgh IN
Posts: 3,404
I changed fork oil in my 08 nomad used 15 wt oil helped a lot.
I rode it 1 up most of the time.
__________________
VBA #01084

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
"
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2015, 08:15 PM   #5
07vulc   07vulc is offline
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 16
I put progressive springs in my 07 1600 classic, I went with 20 weight bell ray fork oil. I have to say I was disappointed, it didn't improve the ride enough to justify the change. It still doesn't soak up the bumps like I hoped it would. Maybe 20 weight is to heavy, I think I will go with 10 or 15 when I service the forks next time. So my thinking is that the oil is more important to changing your ride than the springs.



Login or Register to Remove Ads
Last edited by 07vulc; 07-03-2015 at 08:24 PM.
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2015, 08:35 PM   #6
id-man   id-man is offline
Advanced Member
 
id-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Cape Cod Massachusetts
Posts: 822
Hmm, so even with progressive springs AND heavier oil you're still not getting the ideal result. Could the 20wt possibly be hindering the new springs' ability to absorb? Wouldn't you know 20 weight is what I bought to switch to when I got the time, wasn't planning on doing the springs yet though...Getting complicated.
__________________
2004 Nomad 1500FI - weeeeeeeeee!
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2015, 06:49 AM   #7
VulcanE   VulcanE is offline
Sr. Member
 
VulcanE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cartersville, Georgia
Posts: 4,838
Just changing the fork oil will improve the front end. I've changed my fork oil twice, and used 15w oil both times. Each time it feels like a new bike, but it degrades so slowly you don't notice it until you change it, and then you say "WOW" what a difference. That being said, I do plan on going with the progressive rate springs next time I do the fork oil. You can also play with the preload of the springs by using PVC tubing as the spacer instead of the metal OEM spacer. You don't want to go over a 1/2" longer to start with (It'll be hard to get the cap started without cross threading it). If it's too stiff, it's easy to cut the PVC. Just make sure you get all the dirt and dust off before you put them in your forks, and make sure both are exactly the same length. This is something my Yamaha buddies has taught me, but I haven't tried it, I've always been happy with fresh 15w oil in my forks.
__________________



Cliff "VulcanE" Evans
2005 Blue & Silver 1600 Nomad
VBA # 320
VROC # 20381
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2015, 06:55 AM   #8
VulcanE   VulcanE is offline
Sr. Member
 
VulcanE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cartersville, Georgia
Posts: 4,838
Lets face it, the rear shocks are getting old, my '05 I've had for nearly 10 1/2 years, and if fresh oil makes a lot of difference in the forks, it could probably make that much of a difference in the rear shocks. There is a write up on here about how to change the oil in the rear shocks, but it is a little on the dangerous side.
__________________



Cliff "VulcanE" Evans
2005 Blue & Silver 1600 Nomad
VBA # 320
VROC # 20381
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2015, 08:05 PM   #9
redjay   redjay is offline
Top Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ontario
Posts: 6,929
I had Racetech springs and valve modulators installed in the 2005 Nomad. They were better but not great. I was never really happy with the forks on the Nomad. The Voyager forks did a much better job of soaking up the bumps.
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2015, 10:18 PM   #10
oldmansalt   oldmansalt is offline
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: San Tan Valley, AZ.
Posts: 10
I put progressive fork springs on my 2006 nomad with 45,000 miles on it and it sure help the noise dive issue
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2015, 06:56 PM   #11
hammer   hammer is offline
Sr. Member
 
hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,329
I replaced the fork oil with 15W BelRay and did notice the improvement. This winter I am going to slide progressives in though.
__________________

Hammer aka CrocHammer
KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202
Abbotsford, BC, Canada
2006 Black Nomad
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2015, 07:22 PM   #12
cbutteris   cbutteris is offline
Member
 
cbutteris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Dodgeville, WI
Posts: 240
I installed Progressive springs with 15w fluid and was happy with the results. Maybe the oil made more difference than the springs, but I got less harsh feedback off the pavement and less dive when braking.

My fluid was pretty murky, after 55k miles on my '05.

Which is for sale by the way... Love my Nomad but had to get more touring capacity.
__________________
2014 HD Electra Glide Ultra Classic
2005 Kawasaki Nomad 1600 Classic Tourer
1980 Kawasaki CSR 650
1976 Honda 750 Super Sport
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2015, 09:28 AM   #13
ctrider   ctrider is offline
Advanced Member
 
ctrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: South Windsor, CT
Posts: 735
I installed progressives last year with 15w oil and used the stock spacers. It made a difference but there is hardly any preload. To get the real benefit of progressives you need to increase the spacers. I forget what progressive recommends but it's on there site. I'm going to increase my spacers at some point.
__________________
VBA #02482

VROC # 36172
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2015, 02:46 AM   #14
skiman   skiman is offline
Advanced Member
 
skiman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Nashville,NC
Posts: 782
Quote:
Originally Posted by redjay View Post
I had Racetech springs and valve modulators installed in the 2005 Nomad. They were better but not great. I was never really happy with the forks on the Nomad. The Voyager forks did a much better job of soaking up the bumps.
What are the part numbers on the racetech parts you put in your forks I can't find any info on the racetech site for 1500 Nomads after 2001 only to old style non cartridge model.
Found this on ebay but not racetech
Race Tech Fork Springs 1.0 KG/MM FRSP S3234100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321866692488...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I found nothing on the gold valves
__________________
2002 Nomad 1500 FI
12" buckhorn apes
Chuckster air kit
Mustang seat and fender bib
Avon Venom tires
2 right side Harley mufflers the quiet side.
TFI fuel control
Progressive 430 shocks 430-4213B (Best Mod to the bike I've made)
Progressive fork springs (See Above)
Kuryakyn grips
A touch of chrome farkles
Reckless fairing color match 2 tone paint.
Kenwood deck with Polk 5 1/4" speakers.

2007 GSX1250
Stock for now
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2015, 09:33 AM   #15
redjay   redjay is offline
Top Contributor
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ontario
Posts: 6,929
I don't have the part numbers, sorry. It was about 8 years ago that I had the Racetech parts installed and the Nomad was sold in 2011. The Racetech parts did not improve the forks to warrant the $500 parts and labour it cost to install them.
 
Reply With Quote
Reply





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.