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10-31-2011, 05:20 PM | #1 |
Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda
Barbara Walters said:
Thank you all. Many died in Vietnam for our freedoms. I did not like Jane Fonda then and I don't like her now. Jane Fonda can lead her present life the way she wants and perhaps SHE can forget the past, but we DO NOT have to stand by without comment and see her "honored" as a "Woman of the Century." (I remember this well) For those who served and/or died. . . NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!! and now President OBAMA wants to honor her......!!!! In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton [Famous North Vietnam Prison] IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!! A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED. KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the '100 Women of the Century.' BARBRA WALTERS WRITES: Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the 'Hanoi Hilton.' Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the ' Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only knew he was 'missing in action'. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper... Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a lesarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (Mynormal weight is 170 lbs) We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....' When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient.' Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me. These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of Great Women' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343 PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE. .
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10-31-2011, 05:52 PM | #2 |
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I'm not a big fan of Barbara Walters but I can't stand Jane Fonda. She is definitely a traitor.
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10-31-2011, 10:08 PM | #3 |
I will never forget.
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11-01-2011, 03:48 AM | #4 |
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I'm all for pacifism and I applaud anyone who stands up for what they believe HOWEVER if that story is true then she should be tried for treason.
Treason is defined as: 1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign; 2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state; 3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery. Since it was/is our government (US) that ordered soldiers to Viet Nam (and were subsequently captured), if she (or anyone) betrays them, she was betraying the US. (Not to say other countries soldiers weren't involved.) The US Constitution states: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.". If she wasn't aiding the enemy (at least at the time) by betraying those soldiers, I don't know what "aiding" is. Other than all that, she's a piece of crap. Pardon my ramblings but although I was way too young for Viet Nam (I wasn't born until '67), I served my country and lost a few friends in the sandbox.
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11-01-2011, 09:49 AM | #5 |
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I remember and Hanoi Jane should be hung as a traitor!
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11-01-2011, 12:27 PM | #6 |
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I'd love to give Hanoi Jane an award...... She wouldn't see the sun again
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11-01-2011, 02:28 PM | #7 |
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Let it go people, think of the future and leave the stupidity of our past behind us.
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11-01-2011, 04:24 PM | #8 |
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This story was told 40 years ago... why now does it have legs again??? was the world in a coma???
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11-01-2011, 04:44 PM | #9 |
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11-01-2011, 10:40 PM | #10 |
I DO !!! I was in Nam when the bitch did it!
You have no idea what she did to our guys. People like you are the problem with this country. When someone turns on our soldiers it's people like you that run their mouths and either support them or says "It's no big deal"!! What you call bullshit I call something else!! That's the same thing the cowards who went to Canada said about her! .
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It has legs again because Obama is about to give her an award for Woman of the Century. Since she's a traitor, she doesn't deserve this.
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11-02-2011, 01:58 AM | #12 |
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Geez stator,
I can't believe you posted that reply. Some things are just not forgivable and should never be forgotten. |
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11-02-2011, 02:18 PM | #13 |
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Sorry Stator but it's a very big part of my life. Have you been in a war zone ??? I doubt it. I really feel you should not have the room to comment on this. I know how the VC treated our troops and I also know how we acted. YOU DON'T
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11-02-2011, 02:41 PM | #14 |
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A$$H0LE? F&CK ME? Wow... You narrow minded, redneck clown... not only did you make this one on one personal, I have to ask - is that the best you have to offer? You don't know anything about me, so to include me in some errant group you've made up in your mind is just silly and uninformed. I have just as much right to speak my mind as you have.... Veterans like you made that possible.... Right? Why are you angry when I exercise that right? Is it because I don't agree with you? Oh.... I see.
If you need to resort to name calling and whatnot, it begs the question of just how strong the foundation of your argument is, not to mention your level of credibility. Everyone is correct from a certain point of view and I think you're forgetting that. You're a real tough guy on the forum, and by your appearance likely a real bad-ass in person. I'm sure if you were here in person you'd want to kick my ass as well. How impressive you are. Well, not everyone thinks like you Chief... good thing I guess. |
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Thank you.
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