Are you adding oil - Page 2

papat · 08-02-2008, 07:13 PM

The replies have been great per blowndodge I removed the right side cover to find a small amount of oil in the cover, traced the breather hose to the front don't find it pinched. As with Ells it does take a long time to run down so I may change to 10/40. CaddmanQ it does seem the faster hot interstate speed may be the culprit, I had thought maybe the coasting down hill in Colorado may create more vacume to pull oil into the cylinder? Did look at Gadget's page about adding the remote crankcase breather.
Thanks for the input

**jmorrow** · 08-02-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Cat (TC)

Hey Jim, 2 Nomads in your sig pic. Is the back one your wifes?

Yes, She bought it in April off Ebay. They are both 2004 models. By sheer coincidence
they are sister bikes. The last 5 digits on the vin. are 1 digit different. My Nomad is
27699, my wife's Nomad is 27700. We're ready to roll to Custer.

dkdixie · 08-02-2008, 09:48 PM

In 7,000+ miles, have not had to add any oil. All but first few hundred miles has been Amsoil 20-50.

ronnie · 08-02-2008, 10:21 PM

Got close to 40,000 miles on my 06...... when I change the oil..... I just pour in 3 quarts and close it up..........It's never used any oil..........I guess I'm just lucky....

08-02-2008, 10:29 PM

also never added a drop (past two years have gone 5000 miles between oil changes)

ponch · 08-03-2008, 09:49 AM

Not yet.

08-03-2008, 10:26 AM

I wonder if this is just a matter of blow by in a big V-twin being an issue or is it something else? Is the thinner nature of synthetic oil an issue? Part of this may have to do with excessive road draft also.

In the old days, road draft tubes were used to vent the crankcase, but like all modern vehicles the Nomads use PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) for various reasons. That is until you change the air intake setup. With the Caddmann Kit, Coyote Kit, Thunder Kit, Big Air Kit, etc. the opening of the vent tube is exposed to road draft . At low speeds this is a non issue, but at high speeds there may possibly be a big suction on that tube from road draft, depending on how it's positioned, etc.

More than just if people are using oil, it would be interesting to know if they're also running synthetic oil, and if they've modded the intake tract.

I think it's considered that at normal speeds PCV would use less oil than road draft, but at higher speeds just the opposite.

skeeter · 08-03-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by caddmannq

When I ride to work and back all the time, I never have to add oil.

When I go balls-out on the freeway for long stretches, I always do.

I think that raising the high point of the crankcase breather hose may help with that issue. I haven't tried it yet.

I've heard about raising the height of the breather tube and have seen first hand where a person had done this. Something was said about crankcase pressure at higher speeds and atomization or misting of the oil escaping out of the breather. Still looking for confirmation of this idea. I think it was McDaddy who extended his breather tube.

mcdaddy · 08-03-2008, 04:40 PM

Skeeter, yes .. I got a piece of tubing that is much stiffer than the Kaw vent tubing and put a breather filter on it. Ran it straight up under the steering head. You have to look real hard to see it. Then plugged of the hole behind the right side intake cover.

The breather looks like this:

If you are running the stock vent setup and sucking some oil from the crankcase into the throttlebody, you can probably see a little oil inside that right side cover.

papat · 08-03-2008, 05:48 PM

There was a small amount in right side breather cover also Gadget's page gives instructions for the remote vent

aj · 08-03-2008, 05:55 PM

The Synth v Hyd oil question is going to be interesting. I had hyd when I picked up the bike 4K ago and it needed a top up. When it was serviced moved to Synth, I hav'nt used a drop.

Todd · 08-03-2008, 06:00 PM

I have never had to add any either.....2006 with a little over 13k on it.....it has run sustained for several miles at higher speeds both with stock breather and an open filter breather on the intake side of the bike.

**ringadingh** · 08-03-2008, 10:57 PM

I just changed mine yesterday with Rotella dino, in 3,300 miles I was almost down a litre. Most of that was high speed highway riding.

08-04-2008, 01:09 AM

It looks to me like it's the 1500's that are using more oil.

mrclean · 08-04-2008, 09:34 AM

My '07 has 27,000 miles never had to add a drop between oil changes.

08-02-2008, 07:13 PM	#16
papat Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucumcari NM Posts: 358	Are you adding oil The replies have been great per blowndodge I removed the right side cover to find a small amount of oil in the cover, traced the breather hose to the front don't find it pinched. As with Ells it does take a long time to run down so I may change to 10/40. CaddmanQ it does seem the faster hot interstate speed may be the culprit, I had thought maybe the coasting down hill in Colorado may create more vacume to pull oil into the cylinder? Did look at Gadget's page about adding the remote crankcase breather. Thanks for the input __________________ SHEEPLE: Sheep like people, many of whom deny the existence of wolves, and vote to pull the teeth of the sheepdogs who protect the flock! Login or Register to Remove Ads
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ronnie Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Glasgow, Kentucky Posts: 92	Are you adding oil Got close to 40,000 miles on my 06...... when I change the oil..... I just pour in 3 quarts and close it up..........It's never used any oil..........I guess I'm just lucky....
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08-03-2008, 10:26 AM	#22
Guest Posts: n/a	Are you adding oil I wonder if this is just a matter of blow by in a big V-twin being an issue or is it something else? Is the thinner nature of synthetic oil an issue? Part of this may have to do with excessive road draft also. In the old days, road draft tubes were used to vent the crankcase, but like all modern vehicles the Nomads use PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) for various reasons. That is until you change the air intake setup. With the Caddmann Kit, Coyote Kit, Thunder Kit, Big Air Kit, etc. the opening of the vent tube is exposed to road draft . At low speeds this is a non issue, but at high speeds there may possibly be a big suction on that tube from road draft, depending on how it's positioned, etc. More than just if people are using oil, it would be interesting to know if they're also running synthetic oil, and if they've modded the intake tract. I think it's considered that at normal speeds PCV would use less oil than road draft, but at higher speeds just the opposite.
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08-03-2008, 04:40 PM	#24
mcdaddy Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hutto, Tx Posts: 156	Are you adding oil Skeeter, yes .. I got a piece of tubing that is much stiffer than the Kaw vent tubing and put a breather filter on it. Ran it straight up under the steering head. You have to look real hard to see it. Then plugged of the hole behind the right side intake cover. The breather looks like this: If you are running the stock vent setup and sucking some oil from the crankcase into the throttlebody, you can probably see a little oil inside that right side cover.
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08-03-2008, 05:48 PM	#25
papat Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucumcari NM Posts: 358	Are you adding oil There was a small amount in right side breather cover also Gadget's page gives instructions for the remote vent __________________ SHEEPLE: Sheep like people, many of whom deny the existence of wolves, and vote to pull the teeth of the sheepdogs who protect the flock!
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08-03-2008, 05:55 PM	#26
aj Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 419	Are you adding oil The Synth v Hyd oil question is going to be interesting. I had hyd when I picked up the bike 4K ago and it needed a top up. When it was serviced moved to Synth, I hav'nt used a drop.
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08-03-2008, 06:00 PM	#27
Todd Top Contributor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 5,915	Are you adding oil I have never had to add any either.....2006 with a little over 13k on it.....it has run sustained for several miles at higher speeds both with stock breather and an open filter breather on the intake side of the bike. __________________ Todd Frazier VBA #0003 VBA National Leader-USA Operations/Garage Moderator - RETIRED 2006 Black Nomad since she was born Greensboro, NC
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08-03-2008, 10:57 PM	#28
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Are you adding oil I just changed mine yesterday with Rotella dino, in 3,300 miles I was almost down a litre. Most of that was high speed highway riding. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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08-04-2008, 01:09 AM	#29
Guest Posts: n/a	Are you adding oil It looks to me like it's the 1500's that are using more oil.
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08-04-2008, 09:34 AM	#30
mrclean Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Muskegon MI Posts: 82	Are you adding oil My '07 has 27,000 miles never had to add a drop between oil changes.
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