Bad wind in starter?

jayc · 11-22-2015, 01:14 PM

Ok, over the past year or so, once in a blue moon I go to start the nomad. It turns over cple times, then gage light goes out like no power. Then it starts but I lost trip info and clock flashing 1:00.
Any thoughts? In thinking might be bad wind in starter.

**JD Hog** · 11-22-2015, 01:25 PM

You may need a new battery, that does happen when the battery is low.

redjay · 11-22-2015, 01:58 PM

+1 on the battery on its way out.

kawamad · 11-22-2015, 02:20 PM

That was just happening to me. Then one morning it wouldn't start. Changed the battery and everything is fine.

CajunVulcan · 11-22-2015, 02:34 PM

You have been given great advice so far. The clock and trip meter resetting usually happens because of loose battery terminals or a bad battery. Being that it has been happening to you for a year, I would check the battery terminals for looseness or corrosion.
How old is the battery?

recumbentbob · 11-22-2015, 04:03 PM

Replace the battery before you get stranded out somewhere.

jayc · 11-23-2015, 04:33 AM

Battery only a year old.
Battery connections tight.
Was gonna check all ground connections.

Usually on a tender since I only ride it once or twice a week.

recumbentbob · 11-23-2015, 05:33 AM

Have the battery tested. A year old battery can still be defective

**cnc** · 11-23-2015, 09:14 AM

Load test the battery even if it is only a year old. If it passes, clean the connections good before retightening. What you are describing is a tell tail sign of a weak battery or poor battery connections on a Nomad.

UNCLE WILLIE · 11-23-2015, 11:18 AM

sounds like everyone is on the same page...if u find corrosion esp at bat cable ends split the insulation a little to see if it goes up further ... wheather it does or not soak the cables in a cup of strong soda water [baking soda] until it is clean and bright then shrink wrap or tape insulation ... that hidden corrosion can cause lots of trouble .. with the batt out u have room to dip a few inches of cables in a cup ... if the wires look damaged get new ones

Vulcan Bill · 11-23-2015, 11:19 AM

Mine has occasionally been doing the same thing for about 9 months. Probably dirty battery connections but could be the battery. I know from past experience that, as others have already said, a resetting clock and odometer when starting is a low voltage/current flow indication...usually a bad battery warning. I really need to quit procrastinating and get this fixed before it leaves me stranded.

Vulcan Bill · 11-24-2015, 06:09 PM

I just re-read your post and realized that the answer to your question is yes, it could possibly be the starter. A starter can get whats called a "flat spot" on it where when the rotor is in a certian postion it will not rotate when power is applied. I can remember a couple of times way back in the good ol' days (high school) when a friends car starter would have a flat spot and wouldn't spin we would rock the car with the manual transmission in gear and starter engaged. This would force the starter to rotate to a position where it would spin when power was applied and start the engine. Then again, that was about a million years ago. Maybe they make starters better these days.

I would still clean the battery connections prior to buying a new starter.

dshelly · 11-24-2015, 08:20 PM

Hit it directly on the thingamajig with some left handed vise grips. If that doesn't work , sell it to me for $1 .

Jllm02199 · 11-28-2015, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jayc

Ok, over the past year or so, once in a blue moon I go to start the nomad. It turns over cple times, then gage light goes out like no power. Then it starts but I lost trip info and clock flashing 1:00.
Any thoughts? In thinking might be bad wind in starter.

I went to the Deltran lithium Ion 480 cranking amps 3 years ago. No more do I have the symptoms you described.

Jllm02199 · 11-28-2015, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cnc

Load test the battery even if it is only a year old. If it passes, clean the connections good before retightening. What you are describing is a tell tail sign of a weak battery or poor battery connections on a Nomad.

agree!!

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jayc Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bristol, CT Posts: 523	Bad wind in starter? Ok, over the past year or so, once in a blue moon I go to start the nomad. It turns over cple times, then gage light goes out like no power. Then it starts but I lost trip info and clock flashing 1:00. Any thoughts? In thinking might be bad wind in starter. __________________ 2005 Black/Silver Nomad "Kaw Cow" (sold) 2012 Candy Lime Green Vaquero the "Hulk" 2007 Road King Peace Makers LEMC Login or Register to Remove Ads
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JD Hog Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 2,946	You may need a new battery, that does happen when the battery is low. __________________ Jim Diebolt 2015 Vulcan 1700 Voyager ABS The Black Kaw 2005 Vulcan Nomad Sold 2006 Honda 1800 VTX (Freebie) Sold 2008 Harley Ultra Classic Sold 2001 Harley Ultra Classic Sold Hangtown, Kalifornia VBA #2625
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CajunVulcan Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Cajun country Posts: 74	You have been given great advice so far. The clock and trip meter resetting usually happens because of loose battery terminals or a bad battery. Being that it has been happening to you for a year, I would check the battery terminals for looseness or corrosion. How old is the battery? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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recumbentbob Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Newburgh IN Posts: 3,404	Replace the battery before you get stranded out somewhere. __________________ VBA #01084 "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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11-23-2015, 04:33 AM	#7
jayc Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bristol, CT Posts: 523	Battery only a year old. Battery connections tight. Was gonna check all ground connections. Usually on a tender since I only ride it once or twice a week. __________________ 2005 Black/Silver Nomad "Kaw Cow" (sold) 2012 Candy Lime Green Vaquero the "Hulk" 2007 Road King Peace Makers LEMC
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11-22-2015, 01:58 PM	#3
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,927	+1 on the battery on its way out.
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11-22-2015, 02:20 PM	#4
kawamad Jr. Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Posts: 23	That was just happening to me. Then one morning it wouldn't start. Changed the battery and everything is fine.
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recumbentbob Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Newburgh IN Posts: 3,404	Have the battery tested. A year old battery can still be defective __________________ VBA #01084 "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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11-23-2015, 09:14 AM	#9
cnc Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 12,034	Load test the battery even if it is only a year old. If it passes, clean the connections good before retightening. What you are describing is a tell tail sign of a weak battery or poor battery connections on a Nomad. __________________ Norm Ward 2008 blue / silver nomad kawanow / VBA #01136
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11-23-2015, 11:18 AM	#10
UNCLE WILLIE Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: knoxville tn Posts: 227	sounds like everyone is on the same page...if u find corrosion esp at bat cable ends split the insulation a little to see if it goes up further ... wheather it does or not soak the cables in a cup of strong soda water [baking soda] until it is clean and bright then shrink wrap or tape insulation ... that hidden corrosion can cause lots of trouble .. with the batt out u have room to dip a few inches of cables in a cup ... if the wires look damaged get new ones
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11-23-2015, 11:19 AM	#11
Vulcan Bill Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 1,400	Mine has occasionally been doing the same thing for about 9 months. Probably dirty battery connections but could be the battery. I know from past experience that, as others have already said, a resetting clock and odometer when starting is a low voltage/current flow indication...usually a bad battery warning. I really need to quit procrastinating and get this fixed before it leaves me stranded. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- '05 1600CL. Originator 18" Harley wheel mod, Dobeck TFI, True Duals, Mutazu hardbags, Flanders handlebars n' a bunch more. *Sometimes I miss the good ol' days but most times I'm just glad I survived them* Last edited by Vulcan Bill; 11-23-2015 at 11:22 AM.
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11-24-2015, 06:09 PM	#12
Vulcan Bill Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 1,400	I just re-read your post and realized that the answer to your question is yes, it could possibly be the starter. A starter can get whats called a "flat spot" on it where when the rotor is in a certian postion it will not rotate when power is applied. I can remember a couple of times way back in the good ol' days (high school) when a friends car starter would have a flat spot and wouldn't spin we would rock the car with the manual transmission in gear and starter engaged. This would force the starter to rotate to a position where it would spin when power was applied and start the engine. Then again, that was about a million years ago. Maybe they make starters better these days. I would still clean the battery connections prior to buying a new starter. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- '05 1600CL. Originator 18" Harley wheel mod, Dobeck TFI, True Duals, Mutazu hardbags, Flanders handlebars n' a bunch more. *Sometimes I miss the good ol' days but most times I'm just glad I survived them* Last edited by Vulcan Bill; 11-24-2015 at 06:13 PM.
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11-24-2015, 08:20 PM	#13
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	Hit it directly on the thingamajig with some left handed vise grips. If that doesn't work , sell it to me for $1 . __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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