Another rider dead - Page 2

**glwilson** · 12-01-2010, 07:21 PM

While I do not take anything away from the cage-driver's guilt and obligation to punishment under the law... but do you think there could have been a chance this bike-rider was "ripping-it-up" with fast acceleration and speed to where "he came out of no-where" from the driver's perspective?

Again, I am not defending her, nor condeming the biker... just wondering if the rider was doing that or not.

Quite frankly, I have seen that happen to me before; to where a bike comes out of no-where rather fast -- enough to startle me... and if I hadn't been paying extra-close attention there just might have been a collision.

Anyway... don't want to start any arguements or fights here with the question... I was just simply wondering... ;)

blowndodge · 12-02-2010, 10:13 AM

CAGE LOVER!!!!!!

Loafer · 12-02-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blowndodge "Darksider"

CAGE LOVER!!!!!!

+1

dougster · 12-02-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by glwilson

While I do not take anything away from the cage-driver's guilt and obligation to punishment under the law... but do you think there could have been a chance this bike-rider was "ripping-it-up" with fast acceleration and speed to where "he came out of no-where" from the driver's perspective?

Again, I am not defending her, nor condeming the biker... just wondering if the rider was doing that or not.

Quite frankly, I have seen that happen to me before; to where a bike comes out of no-where rather fast -- enough to startle me... and if I hadn't been paying extra-close attention there just might have been a collision.

Anyway... don't want to start any arguements or fights here with the question... I was just simply wondering... ;)

I think that is a very fair way to approach it. We have all seen people ride bikes like idiots, and no doubt some/many of them get into accidents because of their carelessness. That doesn't mitigate the carelessness of car drives who drive stupidly (or drunkenly). Stupid uses all kinds of vehicles - cars, bikes, even wheelchairs!

**glwilson** · 12-02-2010, 06:53 PM

Thanks for the defense Dougster...

BD and Loafer... quit ganging-up on me. I told you I didn't want any fights in here!!!

It's all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked-out!!!

Loafer · 12-02-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by glwilson

BD and Loafer... quit ganging-up on me. I told you I didn't want any fights in here!!!
It's all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked-out!!!

rickyboy · 12-05-2010, 10:59 PM

I hope the person is punished severely. She deserves everything she gets. But even if she was hung, drawn and quartered,...it won't bring back the poor bastard on the bike. That's what makes me so f#*king mad.

Loafer · 12-21-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cactusjack

Looks like the driver of the BMW that violated his right-of-way will be charged with manslaughter...

Scottsdale woman could face manslaughter in fatal motorcycle crash

by Brennan Smith - Nov. 29, 2010 10:44 AM
The Arizona Republic

A driver involved in the death of a motorcyclist Sunday night in Scottsdale is expected to be charged with manslaughter.

About 5:30 p.m., Sharolyn Medina, 45, of Scottsdale was turning left from eastbound Shea Boulevard to northbound 124th Street when the motorcyclist, Eric Ziemba, 24, of Scottsdale, struck her BMW as he traveled west, police said.

Ziemba, who was not wearing a helmet, was transported to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead, Scottsdale police spokesman David Pubins said.

Police said alcohol appears to have been a factor in the crash and that Medina reportedly was driving under the influence.

Shea Boulevard was partially closed between 120th and 130th streets until midnight, Pubins said.

Is there a update on this story?

carolinakid1 · 03-21-2011, 07:16 PM

Happened to my father-in-law in 1963. He was riding a scooter home from work and a drunk killed him. The sorry drunkard got 26 weekends in jail (so he could work and provide for his family). My mother-in-law had to raise four children under 9 years of age. The "blessing" was that the drunk was driving a company truck and my mother-in-law cleaned out the company's insurance on the claim...didn't bring back a father and husband though....26 weekends...that sucks!

cactusjack · 03-21-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by loafer

Quote:

Originally Posted by cactusjack

Looks like the driver of the BMW that violated his right-of-way will be charged with manslaughter...

Scottsdale woman could face manslaughter in fatal motorcycle crash

by Brennan Smith - Nov. 29, 2010 10:44 AM
The Arizona Republic

A driver involved in the death of a motorcyclist Sunday night in Scottsdale is expected to be charged with manslaughter.

About 5:30 p.m., Sharolyn Medina, 45, of Scottsdale was turning left from eastbound Shea Boulevard to northbound 124th Street when the motorcyclist, Eric Ziemba, 24, of Scottsdale, struck her BMW as he traveled west, police said.

Ziemba, who was not wearing a helmet, was transported to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead, Scottsdale police spokesman David Pubins said.

Police said alcohol appears to have been a factor in the crash and that Medina reportedly was driving under the influence.

Shea Boulevard was partially closed between 120th and 130th streets until midnight, Pubins said.

Is there a update on this story?

Nope. Haven't seen anything else on it. The wheels of justice turn slowly...

They still haven't held the trial for the meth-head dump truck driver who plowed into 8 bikers and killed 4 of them a year ago.

desertdog · 03-22-2011, 02:29 PM

One thing I am concerned about is the medical marijauna law they passed in AZ last fall.

While it would be nice to know that people that use it responsibly, I have major doubts, especially from some of the comments I have heard from people who are already shopping doctors looking to find one who will issue a prescription.

cactusjack · 03-22-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertDog

One thing I am concerned about is the medical marijauna law they passed in AZ last fall.

While it would be nice to know that people that use it responsibly, I have major doubts, especially from some of the comments I have heard from people who are already shopping doctors looking to find one who will issue a prescription.

I've got news for you. Anybody who wants to spark up a joint is already doing it. Nothing will change.

desertdog · 03-22-2011, 03:07 PM

CJ, I understand that, but I suspect there will be some idiots that will be looking around to get more stoned than normal, and drive under the guise of a prescription.

In other words, more of them on the road. Hope I am wrong, ( I have been known to be wrong once or twice).

blowndodge · 03-22-2011, 04:17 PM

And those are the ones that hit slick man hole covers and.............. well,,,,,, the rest is history...

**nomadtom69** · 03-22-2011, 06:27 PM

Knoxville Tn Another rider dies 80 year old woman turned in front of him at intersection he was 57

12-01-2010, 07:21 PM	#16
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Another rider dead While I do not take anything away from the cage-driver's guilt and obligation to punishment under the law... but do you think there could have been a chance this bike-rider was "ripping-it-up" with fast acceleration and speed to where "he came out of no-where" from the driver's perspective? Again, I am not defending her, nor condeming the biker... just wondering if the rider was doing that or not. Quite frankly, I have seen that happen to me before; to where a bike comes out of no-where rather fast -- enough to startle me... and if I hadn't been paying extra-close attention there just might have been a collision. Anyway... don't want to start any arguements or fights here with the question... I was just simply wondering... ;) __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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12-02-2010, 10:13 AM	#17
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Another rider dead CAGE LOVER!!!!!! __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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12-02-2010, 06:53 PM	#20
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	Another rider dead Thanks for the defense Dougster... BD and Loafer... quit ganging-up on me. I told you I didn't want any fights in here!!! It's all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked-out!!! __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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12-05-2010, 10:59 PM	#22
rickyboy Top Contributor Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 108 Mile Ranch B.C. Canada Posts: 5,472	Another rider dead I hope the person is punished severely. She deserves everything she gets. But even if she was hung, drawn and quartered,...it won't bring back the poor bastard on the bike. That's what makes me so f#king mad. __________________ Nomad'a What ! "rickyboy" Richard Cole* Canada West Region 108 Mile Ranch, British Columbia Canada Vulcan Bagger Assoc. #00722 Black 2006 Nomad https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/ico...Book_32x32.png
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03-21-2011, 07:16 PM	#24
carolinakid1 Advanced Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 528	Another rider dead Happened to my father-in-law in 1963. He was riding a scooter home from work and a drunk killed him. The sorry drunkard got 26 weekends in jail (so he could work and provide for his family). My mother-in-law had to raise four children under 9 years of age. The "blessing" was that the drunk was driving a company truck and my mother-in-law cleaned out the company's insurance on the claim...didn't bring back a father and husband though....26 weekends...that sucks! __________________ Mike Bryant "CarolinaKid" 2007 Candy Red/Titanium Nomad VBA # 1203 AMA # 1088875 VROC # 30589 Patriot Guard
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03-22-2011, 02:29 PM	#26
desertdog Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Goodyear AZ Posts: 331	Another rider dead One thing I am concerned about is the medical marijauna law they passed in AZ last fall. While it would be nice to know that people that use it responsibly, I have major doubts, especially from some of the comments I have heard from people who are already shopping doctors looking to find one who will issue a prescription.
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03-22-2011, 03:07 PM	#28
desertdog Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Goodyear AZ Posts: 331	Another rider dead CJ, I understand that, but I suspect there will be some idiots that will be looking around to get more stoned than normal, and drive under the guise of a prescription. In other words, more of them on the road. Hope I am wrong, ( I have been known to be wrong once or twice).
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03-22-2011, 04:17 PM	#29
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Another rider dead And those are the ones that hit slick man hole covers and.............. well,,,,,, the rest is history... __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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03-22-2011, 06:27 PM	#30
nomadtom69 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Maryville, Tn Posts: 2,656	Another rider dead Knoxville Tn Another rider dies 80 year old woman turned in front of him at intersection he was 57 __________________ (NomadTom69)Tom Green Previous bikes - 2004 BMW R1200 CLC 2006 Nomad 1600 Black -1985 BMW K100 RT VBA #001609 Viet-Nam Vet 71-72 Maryville , Tn. Maggie Valley '11-Townsend '12-Estes Park '13- Copperhead fall rally "13- Elkins WV '14- Eureka Springs ' 15- Helen Ga. SE Rally '16
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