Register FAQ Upgrade Membership Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Go Back   Vulcan Bagger Forums > General > Off-Topic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-07-2013, 06:00 AM   #46
Loafer   Loafer is offline
Sr. Contributor
 
Loafer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 18,287
This is just too deep for me.
__________________
Gerry Martineau / 802 VT / VBA #0892 /[email]glmjgm@gmail.com[email]



Login or Register to Remove Ads
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 09:49 AM   #47
id-man   id-man is offline
Advanced Member
 
id-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Cape Cod Massachusetts
Posts: 822
Every day I learn something new.
At 59, all my life I've only heard the expression "Jerry rigged" and assumed it had something to do with Germany and WWII. The term "Jury-rigged" was new to me till just now:

from grammerphobia.com -
The term “jerry-rigged” has already made it into both The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (4th ed.) and Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th ed.) – without any warning labels.
American Heritage says the verb “jerry-rig” is an alteration of “jury-rig” influenced by “jerry-build.” Merriam-Webster’s says the participial adjective “jerry-rigged” is probably a blend of “jury-rigged” and “jerry-built.” Thus language changes.
In fact, this “new” jury-rigged (or jerry-built) phrase isn’t all that new. It’s been with us for nearly half a century, according to Merriam-Webster’s, and means built in a crude or improvised manner.
Of the three expressions, “jury-rigged” is by far the oldest, with roots going back to the early 17th century, when a “jury-mast” was a temporary mast put up to replace one that was broken or carried away, according to the Oxford English Dictionary.
The earliest published reference in the OED for “jury-rigged” is in a 1788 travel book: “The ships to be jury rigged: that is, to have smaller masts, yards, and rigging, than would be required for actual service.”
The writer used the expression as a passive verb. To “jury-rig” now means to improvise or do something in a makeshift way.
The first citation for “jerry-built” is in an 1869 glossary: “Jerry-built, slightly, or unsubstantially built.” The origin of the expression is unknown, but it’s thought to be influenced by the use of the word “jerry” in English dialect to mean defective. The expression still refers to something that’s shoddily made.
The language sleuth Hugh Rawson, in his book Devious Derivations, lists eight of the more imaginative theories about the origin of “jerry-built,” including suggestions that “jerry” refers to the biblical walls of Jericho, the prophet Jeremiah, or German soldiers.
__________________
2004 Nomad 1500FI - weeeeeeeeee!

Last edited by id-man; 11-07-2013 at 10:00 AM.
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 10:47 AM   #48
blowndodge   blowndodge is offline
Sr. Contributor
 
blowndodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington City, Utah
Posts: 16,474
Send a message via Skype™ to blowndodge
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loafer View Post
This is just too deep for me.
The seven words your wife has never said...
__________________
I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited

There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them.



The most Interesting Man in the World
"Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things"


Member # 0005
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 10:58 AM   #49
Top Cat   Top Cat is offline
 
Top Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of New York State
Posts: 15,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by blowndodge View Post
The seven words your wife has never said...
__________________
Tim "TC" Conley
VBA #9



2011 Victory Kingpin mine
2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers




[LEFT][COLOR=#000000]
[SIZE=4]
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 11:12 AM   #50
GIBBY   GIBBY is offline
 
GIBBY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Osceola,WI
Posts: 3,084
Quote:
Originally Posted by blowndodge View Post
The seven words your wife has never said...
damn
__________________
Mike "GIBBY" Gibson
Osceola, WI
VBA # 1279

2011 National Rally
2012 NCR Rally
2012 Antlers Rally
2013 National Rally
2013 Antlers Rally
2014 NC/SC Rally
2014 Antlers Rally
2015 VRA/VBA Rally
2016 NCR Rally
2016 Antlers Rally
2017 Antlers Rally
2018 NC/SC Rally
2018 Antlers Rally
2019 Antlers Rally
2020 Antlers Rally
2022 Antlers Rally
2023 Antlers Rally


2021 Indian Roadmaster Limited
2022 Indian Roadmaster



Login or Register to Remove Ads
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 11:35 AM   #51
Kawhead   Kawhead is offline
 
Kawhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: 6th Floor up at the The Nervous Hospital up in East Central State, NC
Posts: 7,454
Quote:
Originally Posted by id-man View Post
Every day I learn something new.
At 59, all my life I've only heard the expression "Jerry rigged" and assumed it had something to do with Germany and WWII. The term "Jury-rigged" was new to me till just now:

from grammerphobia.com -
The term “jerry-rigged” has already made it into both The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (4th ed.) and Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (11th ed.) – without any warning labels.
American Heritage says the verb “jerry-rig” is an alteration of “jury-rig” influenced by “jerry-build.” Merriam-Webster’s says the participial adjective “jerry-rigged” is probably a blend of “jury-rigged” and “jerry-built.” Thus language changes.
In fact, this “new” jury-rigged (or jerry-built) phrase isn’t all that new. It’s been with us for nearly half a century, according to Merriam-Webster’s, and means built in a crude or improvised manner.
Of the three expressions, “jury-rigged” is by far the oldest, with roots going back to the early 17th century, when a “jury-mast” was a temporary mast put up to replace one that was broken or carried away, according to the Oxford English Dictionary.
The earliest published reference in the OED for “jury-rigged” is in a 1788 travel book: “The ships to be jury rigged: that is, to have smaller masts, yards, and rigging, than would be required for actual service.”
The writer used the expression as a passive verb. To “jury-rig” now means to improvise or do something in a makeshift way.
The first citation for “jerry-built” is in an 1869 glossary: “Jerry-built, slightly, or unsubstantially built.” The origin of the expression is unknown, but it’s thought to be influenced by the use of the word “jerry” in English dialect to mean defective. The expression still refers to something that’s shoddily made.
The language sleuth Hugh Rawson, in his book Devious Derivations, lists eight of the more imaginative theories about the origin of “jerry-built,” including suggestions that “jerry” refers to the biblical walls of Jericho, the prophet Jeremiah, or German soldiers.
Thanks ID.
Still yet, if you have some screaming chithead, yapping his feelings are hurt, that trumps historical reference, and honest discussion.
I've never had to opportunity to travel beyond the boarders of the South where racial harmony abounds. I think I've heard nearly every ethnic slur known, but Rig and Jig, are new to me.
We can't use Jerry-rig because you might be thinking something else.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
I always thought it was "jury rig."

I'll have to look up jerry rig.
Somebody done done it for you. Say thank you.

Hope I didn't offend you.
__________________

??-Mar.2,2012 "Rocky" My Beloved Dog RIP

Mike Tripp
VBA#767
'96 800 Vulcan Classic
06 1600 Nomad
07 1600 Nomad

"The shoes you buy at the Salvation Army is already been broke in"- Aunt Kawhead
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 01:18 PM   #52
HwyRider   HwyRider is offline
 
HwyRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Shore, MA
Posts: 4,629
Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
Sorry, the visual of that made me laugh out loud.
Those Kong toys are super tough. I bought Rocky one 2 years ago and he still can't destroy it. He had a rawhide bone gone in 3 hours, a Frisbee in 15 min. and those bandanas the vet puts on him don't last the ride home.

It was pretty funny.

They are pretty tough toys. Unfortunately my oldest German Shepherd has destroyed every Kong toy that we buy including the balls. They do have a lifetime warranty and the stores will replace any Kong product destroyed by a pet with the receipt.
__________________
VBA # 02424
VROC # 35971

2010 Nomad 1700
Metallic Diablo Black/Metallic Titanium
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 02:39 PM   #53
Boscoe   Boscoe is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 372
We just call it "ozark engineering" around here.
__________________
2011 Voyager 1700, Ebony/Pearl Meteor Gray
Bridgestone Exedra Max tires in stock sizes
Heated Avon grips with Throttle Mod
Cobra Scalloped Slip-ons

Thunder Mfg. Intake Gasket
DEI Titanium exhaust header wrap
Corbin heated seat.
Polk Audio db521 speakers
Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 with Mobil 1 M1-110 filter
Kuryakyn Longhorn Offset Dually Highway Pegs
Chrome passenger running board covers
All new fluids and lube.
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 05:06 PM   #54
ponch   ponch is offline
Sr. Contributor
 
ponch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Way East Valley
Posts: 12,017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boscoe View Post
We just call it "ozark engineering" around here.
I can't say what we called it.
__________________
Ponch
VBA 0019
VROC 8109-R
BMWMOA 162849
BMWRA 41335

BMW: When you care enough to ride the very best.

My Motorrad Blog
My Motorrad YouTube


2009 BMW R1200RT

Previous bikes:2007 Nomad | 2001 Vulcan 800 Classic | 1984 GPz750 | 1978 KZ1000A2

Rallies: Custer '09|Prairie Du Chien '10|Crescent City '11
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 10:20 PM   #55
blowndodge   blowndodge is offline
Sr. Contributor
 
blowndodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington City, Utah
Posts: 16,474
Send a message via Skype™ to blowndodge
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponch View Post
I can't say what we called it.

I'm guessing "Rig" was part of the saying Jim?
__________________
I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited

There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them.



The most Interesting Man in the World
"Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things"


Member # 0005
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 10:38 PM   #56
ponch   ponch is offline
Sr. Contributor
 
ponch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Way East Valley
Posts: 12,017
Yeah and they think a Pontiac is a Cadillac.
__________________
Ponch
VBA 0019
VROC 8109-R
BMWMOA 162849
BMWRA 41335

BMW: When you care enough to ride the very best.

My Motorrad Blog
My Motorrad YouTube


2009 BMW R1200RT

Previous bikes:2007 Nomad | 2001 Vulcan 800 Classic | 1984 GPz750 | 1978 KZ1000A2

Rallies: Custer '09|Prairie Du Chien '10|Crescent City '11
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 10:41 PM   #57
blowndodge   blowndodge is offline
Sr. Contributor
 
blowndodge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington City, Utah
Posts: 16,474
Send a message via Skype™ to blowndodge
__________________
I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited

There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them.



The most Interesting Man in the World
"Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things"


Member # 0005
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2013, 10:52 PM   #58
Silent Sam   Silent Sam is offline
Sr. Member
 
Silent Sam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: On The Shakey Side
Posts: 2,501
THANK THE GOD'S..For The 1st Ammendment...(and no thanks to those who would "alter" it !)

Now About "Jerry Rigging".."Jury Rigging", "N-Word Rigging"...It's been My Experience, that the Mother Of All Rigging...Is "Coon Ass Engineering" (for those instantly see some sort of ethnic slur in that title, be it known..it does not refer to color...and those who are Coon Ass'es --Are Proud To Be So !!)..Most of -you- would know them as "CAJUN'S"
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2013, 02:19 AM   #59
Dave   Dave is offline
Sr. Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Itchycoo Park
Posts: 3,422
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Sam View Post
THANK THE GOD'S..For The 1st Ammendment...(and no thanks to those who would "alter" it !)
Since when has that silly little item stopped our current Governments, State of Federal.
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2013, 05:52 AM   #60
Cajunrider   Cajunrider is offline
 
Cajunrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: (SE Louisiana)
Posts: 8,340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Sam View Post
THANK THE GOD'S..For The 1st Ammendment...(and no thanks to those who would "alter" it !)

Now About "Jerry Rigging".."Jury Rigging", "N-Word Rigging"...It's been My Experience, that the Mother Of All Rigging...Is "Coon Ass Engineering" (for those instantly see some sort of ethnic slur in that title, be it known..it does not refer to color...and those who are Coon Ass'es --Are Proud To Be So !!)..Most of -you- would know them as "CAJUN'S"
__________________


2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO
Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue
110 cu in SE

2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16)
Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange
Vance & Hines true dual headers
Rinehart 4" slip ons
Screamin Eagle Super Tuner
Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake
Dyno tuned
H.O.G.# 4514015

2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12)
VBA #482
 
Reply With Quote
Reply





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.