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02-22-2012, 07:13 AM | #1 |
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Fuel pump - Mitsubishi?
Today I pulled the fuel pump from my 2008 1600 vulcan nomad to try and do something about the screaming. My bike has 70000 kilometers on it and this is the second pump its gone through. In Australia Kawasaki are asking $800.00 for this part. In US around $400.00. I dismantled and cleaned the filter part of pump as suggested by members in my previous thread. The result was excellent, no more screaming.
While in there i discovered the following things re this fuel pump. - The base of the unit is labled as Kawasaki 49040-0008 It is then marked UCT3OKU9 then 8903 The part is also stamped with a mitsubishi diamond. This lableing is on the base of the complete unit on the lower external sump. Once you get inside the actual pump is clearly labled mitsubishi UC T30 followed by the numbers 08212. The plastic bowl section of the pump is stamped with the numbers 0808181 It appears the actual pump is indeed mitsubishi and can be purchased in australia for $100.00. What also seems clear is that it is not the pump that fails, (ever heard of mitsubishi fuel pumps failing in 30000 kilometers?.) its the plastic housing surrounding it. It simply collects gunk which restricts the flow of fuel causing the pump to work too hard and so it squeels. Alternatively there is a pressure valve on the pump which may also cause the sqeeling as it squirts by passed fuel back into the tank. Either way it's the plastic part that fails. The fact that the pump stops squeeling once the reserviour has been cleaned demonstrates that its not the pump that fails unless you let it go too long. I'm going to chase up a few pumps of the type mentioned above and see if they come as a complete assembly from mitsubishi. If so I'll let you know. I loce the bike and intend to keep it for many years to come but as you can see I'm dissapointed by this fuel pump system. These bikes are designed to tour and should be reliable. If there is a problem with this component then it should be priced as a service item so that we can factor its replacement on a regular basis into the running of the bike. What do others think? Am I being too hard or is it reasonable to expect better life out of an integral part? I've had plenty of other bikes with electric fuel pumps that easily outlast this part. Login or Register to Remove Ads |
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02-22-2012, 09:43 AM | #2 |
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Thanks for the Information. I am not having any fuel pump problems but since its winter here I am going to take it out for a cleaning.It would be nice to know if you can buy this pump from mitsubishi direct!
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02-22-2012, 10:25 AM | #3 |
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To me the fact that the squeeling stops when you clean the filter, makes it seem to be more of a design problem by Kawasaki.
The pump is not the problem, its the filter assembly as you already found out. Normally you shouldn't be replacing the pump or cleaning the filter as often as you are. This leads me to beleive that you have dirty fuel that is causing this to happen. I don't think there is much you can do about that, if that is the case. Try to find a gas station that has clean tanks if you can.
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02-22-2012, 10:31 AM | #4 |
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Thanks for the information, my bike has been screaming for quite awhile and I couldn’t figure out where the noise was coming from as it doesn’t do it all the time I could only hear it at idle when I was stopped waiting for a signal light or stop sign but the fuel pump makes sense.
My bike has 48,000 miles on it and I don’t think you are being too hard or unreasonable expecting to get many more miles on a fuel pump. Again thank you for some great information!!
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02-22-2012, 10:54 AM | #6 |
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What's puzzling is that the shop manual states the filter is NOT cleanable as it's an internal part of the pump so I'm wondering the precedure to clean it is.??
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You would have to remove the tank from the bike, remove the pump and filter assembly, and disassemble the pump and filter. It seems that Kawasaki has made this part to be replaced as a unit and was not meant to be serviced.
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Great detective work. This should go in the 1600 engine maintenance section.
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02-22-2012, 12:29 PM | #10 |
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Why? So my ABS can go out and my transmission leak oil and my battery dies leaving me stranded so Carl Lewis can push start me???
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great work make it a Sticky
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02-22-2012, 01:07 PM | #12 |
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Some valuable information. Hope I don't need any of this for quite a while yet.
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I haven't had my Nomad delivered yet but wondering how you get inside a Gas Tank to remove the Fuel Pump to clean the Screen, Etc? Is there another opening then the Gas Cap? How do they get electrical power inside a Gas Tank to power this Fuel pump? These may be stupid questions as I have not worked on my 2008 Nomad yet. Northern Dancer, Ron
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OPP's just researched and got my answer
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