Explain this one

ponch · 08-16-2012, 04:03 PM

http://h6img.com/videosm/double-fail-d4.mp4

majeff · 08-16-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ponch

http://h6img.com/videosm/double-fail-d4.mp4

Just a Harley thing or the woman hit the guy in front of her. I see smoke in back of the harley just before the guy fell over, braked, or blow out or ................

ponch · 08-16-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by majeff

Just a Harley thing or the woman hit the guy in front of her. I see smoke in back of the harley just before the guy fell over, braked, or blow out or ................

Or almost run over by his own motorcycle.

majeff · 08-16-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ponch

Or almost run over by his own motorcycle.

If you click on the vid tab and slow down the action it looks like the bike in back of him got very close, or he just fell over.

ponch · 08-16-2012, 06:30 PM

He put his leg out too like he was a dirt tracker. That doesn't work well with an 800lb bike.

ponch · 08-16-2012, 06:32 PM

The bike behind him hit him. Man, that was nasty.

majeff · 08-16-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ponch

The bike behind him hit him. Man, that was nasty.

It's amazing what people will do to get on You Tube.

ponch · 08-16-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by majeff

It's amazing what people will do to get on You Tube.

It wasn't Youtube...Although I have seen worse there as in dead.

**Idaho** · 08-16-2012, 08:22 PM

I've seen this one before and still can't figure it out. It almost looks like an inexperienced driver paniked when approaching the cameraman and hit the brake, as majeff noted, and leaned away to cause a slide. The foot going out is a giveaway to inexperience. Easy way to loose a foot on a big bike.

Nasty.

**glwilson** · 08-16-2012, 09:45 PM

This was on the site a few years back... No one knew the final answer on why it happened for certain.

The bike begins to lean just before there is a visible puff of smoke from the rear tire.

My guess was and still is; he hit his rear brake only or downshifted to a too-low of gear, which caused a skid with the back tire -- which caused the back-end to slightly fish-tail to his right.

This obviously scared the crap out of him enough that he made his second mistake of not controlling the bike, which led to his final mistake of putting his foot down in an attempt to keep the bike upright.

As always... most accidents are a series of mistakes. In this case a series of rookie mistakes, sorry to say.

Loafer · 08-16-2012, 10:19 PM

Only because we witnessed an accident that seems similar, will
I venture a guess. The bikes get too close and the rear bike touches
the front bike, causing the front bike to flail around. I believe the rear
rider is already down when the front rider is trying to piut a foot down.

**Idaho** · 08-16-2012, 11:26 PM

Okay, so the front bike downshifts and inexperience kicks in big time. At the same time with the downshift the front bike suddenly slows considerably and the rear bike runs into it and compounds the situation.

**jestephens** · 08-16-2012, 11:47 PM

All I know is he'll wish he had been wearing gloves. Ouch

**trip** · 08-17-2012, 06:33 AM

At first glance I was going to suggest that the guy passed out or had a heart attack. But, after a few minutes of scrutiny, my opinion is he lost control due to rider error... whatever that may be.

cactusjack · 08-17-2012, 08:47 AM

Damn, that's hard to watch. It sure looks like the rider on the first bike tried to put his foot down.

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08-16-2012, 06:30 PM	#5
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08-16-2012, 06:32 PM	#6
ponch Sr. Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Way East Valley Posts: 12,015	The bike behind him hit him. Man, that was nasty. __________________ Ponch VBA 0019 VROC 8109-R BMWMOA 162849 BMWRA 41335 BMW: When you care enough to ride the very best. My Motorrad Blog My Motorrad YouTube 2009 BMW R1200RT Previous bikes:2007 Nomad \| 2001 Vulcan 800 Classic \| 1984 GPz750 \| 1978 KZ1000A2 Rallies: Custer '09\|Prairie Du Chien '10\|Crescent City '11
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08-16-2012, 08:22 PM	#9
Idaho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 5,241	I've seen this one before and still can't figure it out. It almost looks like an inexperienced driver paniked when approaching the cameraman and hit the brake, as majeff noted, and leaned away to cause a slide. The foot going out is a giveaway to inexperience. Easy way to loose a foot on a big bike. Nasty. __________________ Idaho (aka Curmudgeon) Blue Knights Idaho III VBA #110 VROC #24864 IBA #49753 2007 Nomad 86,000 miles Bud Smalley Pocatello, Idaho Idaho Jack Adapter
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08-16-2012, 09:45 PM	#10
glwilson Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 8,575	This was on the site a few years back... No one knew the final answer on why it happened for certain. The bike begins to lean just before there is a visible puff of smoke from the rear tire. My guess was and still is; he hit his rear brake only or downshifted to a too-low of gear, which caused a skid with the back tire -- which caused the back-end to slightly fish-tail to his right. This obviously scared the crap out of him enough that he made his second mistake of not controlling the bike, which led to his final mistake of putting his foot down in an attempt to keep the bike upright. As always... most accidents are a series of mistakes. In this case a series of rookie mistakes, sorry to say. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts." *Former VBA NCR Assist Regional Leader* Formerly: 2004 1500FI Bronze Nomad: 2009 & 2014 HD Ultra Current Rides: 2017 HD Ultra Limited & 2011 Can Am Spyder RTS-SE Attended: VBA National Rallies 2009, 2011, 2015; VBA/NCR Regional Rally 2010, 12, 14, 16 and several rides throughout with regional members. VBA Member #652 HOG Member #3935417
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08-16-2012, 10:19 PM	#11
Loafer Sr. Contributor Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 18,287	Only because we witnessed an accident that seems similar, will I venture a guess. The bikes get too close and the rear bike touches the front bike, causing the front bike to flail around. I believe the rear rider is already down when the front rider is trying to piut a foot down. __________________ Gerry Martineau / 802 VT / VBA #0892 /[email]glmjgm@gmail.com[email]
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08-16-2012, 11:26 PM	#12
Idaho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 5,241	Okay, so the front bike downshifts and inexperience kicks in big time. At the same time with the downshift the front bike suddenly slows considerably and the rear bike runs into it and compounds the situation. __________________ Idaho (aka Curmudgeon) Blue Knights Idaho III VBA #110 VROC #24864 IBA #49753 2007 Nomad 86,000 miles Bud Smalley Pocatello, Idaho Idaho Jack Adapter
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08-16-2012, 11:47 PM	#13
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08-17-2012, 06:33 AM	#14
trip VBA Founder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lindale, Texas Posts: 6,846	At first glance I was going to suggest that the guy passed out or had a heart attack. But, after a few minutes of scrutiny, my opinion is he lost control due to rider error... whatever that may be. __________________ Robert "Trip" Hilliard VBA/KawaNOW - Founder/Past President VBA # 00001 Trip's Website Custer 09, 18 / Maggie Valley 11 / Eureka Springs 09, 17 / Antlers 09, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18 Texas Hill Country / Deals Gap / Colorado / Wyoming / Montana / Utah / More trips for Trip
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08-17-2012, 08:47 AM	#15
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