clutch lever

[flavor]

According to the manual the adjustment on the clutch lever (1 thru 5) is just to fit your hand. (At least that has been said by someone).

Is it possible that the setting my also effect when the clutch engages as well?

My lever has been set on 4 and I recently noticed a little slippage as shown by my recent posts.

[macmac]

So far as I know the settings are for hand sizes, but there has to be a camming etcentric in the lever assembly, and the master pistion will move back and forth in the bore somewhat IF this works like i think it works and then give or take a little throw. BF will take up that space and add or subtract that much movement, making the slave piston move that much more or less depending on the setting.

This has nothing to do with slipping though.

[cactusjack]

Yes. as the distance between the lever and grip increases incrementally with the dial, the travel of the clutch pushrod increases as well. In other words, you have more clutch travel at 1 than you would at 5.

This makes sense because on setting 1 the clutch lever has a greater distance to travel than on setting 5.

[bobzinger]

The piston travels the same distance to release the clutch regardless of lever setting? No matter where that setting is on mine the clutch releases in the first 1/4" of movement.

[flavor]

Originally Posted by cactusjack

Yes. as the distance between the lever and grip increases incrementally with the dial, the travel of the clutch pushrod increases as well. In other words, you have more clutch travel at 1 than you would at 5.

This makes sense because on setting 1 the clutch lever has a greater distance to travel than on setting 5.

All right you guys I'm so confused.

Now I'm going to ask everyone a question now. And don't nobody take this as an insult to their knowledge.................or get their panties in a bunch so to speak.............. ::)

If my setting for the clutch lever was on 4........and I got a little slippage of the clutch............ (only twice in the last 2 weeks and when getting on it) and I decide to change to setting number 2........is there a chance that would eliminate the slippage?

[cactusjack]

It depends on why the clutch is slipping. If the spring is shot, then no.

You're trying to put a band aid on a broken leg here. It sounds like your clutch spring needs replacing.

[flavor]

Originally Posted by cactusjack

It depends on why the clutch is slipping. If the spring is shot, then no.

You're trying to put a band aid on a broken leg here. It sounds like your clutch spring needs replacing.

Not using a band aid. Ordered the barnett clutch spring. Just curious if adjusting the lever would give extra miles without slippage.

Thanks CJ

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by bobzinger

The piston travels the same distance to release the clutch regardless of lever setting? No matter where that setting is on mine the clutch releases in the first 1/4" of movement.

That's probably right, Bob. But as you continue to pull the lever, the slave cylinder keeps pushing the pushrod to disengage the clutch. If the lever is closer to the grip, then the rod isn't going to travel as far. The lever adjustment isn't going to affect the initial release of the clutch, it will affect how far beyond that the clutch pushrod travels. I don't think the difference is very much, but the setting does make a difference.

If the pushrod can't travel far enough, the clutch may never fully disengage. That was what happened to me when I replaced my clutch spring. My lever was on 4 or 5, and while sitting at a light with the clutch lever pulled all the way in, I could feel that the clutch wasn't fully disengaged. By turning the knob to 1, the clutch had a bit more travel and the clutch fully disengaged.

[flavor]

Man I love this site. :) :)

[MAS Tequila]

The master cylinder only has x amount of travel. Changing the setting will not change the throw of the slve cylinder, only the point where the fluid begins to move and when it stops. It may make it easier to control because of ergonomics but mechanically it does nothing.

If it's slipping because of the spring it won't change.

MT

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

The master cylinder only has x amount of travel. Changing the setting will not change the throw of the slve cylinder, only the point where the fluid begins to move and when it stops. It may make it easier to control because of ergonomics but mechanically it does nothing.

If it's slipping because of the spring it won't change.

MT

I'll argue this all day. Changing the position of the lever will ultimately affect the distance of pushrod travel, however slight.

You are correct about the spring, if it's worn, there's no way to compensate for it.

[Loafer]

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[MAS Tequila]

The effective travel of the push rod doesn't change. It will bottom out in it's travel whether the cam is set on 1 or 5.

What you have changed is the engagement point relative to the distance between the grip and the lever.

As the service manual states the lever free play is not adjustable. The amount of free play is constant and does not change by adjusting the cam.

MT

Originally Posted by cactusjack

I'll argue this all day. Changing the position of the lever will ultimately affect the distance of pushrod travel, however slight.

You are correct about the spring, if it's worn, there's no way to compensate for it.