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04-13-2016, 12:54 AM
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Interesting Turning Clearance Issue.
Long story short. I rode a 2012 Voyager. Loved it. Got a good deal on a 2012 Vaquero. My bikes turning clearance is DANGEROUSLY low. Why?
Are the Vaqueros lower? The previous owner sold me his dad's bike and knows nothing about it. It is darksided. Is the car tire making the bike sit lower? What can I check to see if its something he's done? If i cannot fix it i'll probably have to sell it. 
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Last edited by coolwazabi; 04-13-2016 at 12:54 AM.
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04-13-2016, 02:12 AM
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Mine is stock and I can lay it into corners I would start by putting it back to stock and go from there I absolutely love mine!!
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04-13-2016, 02:22 AM
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04-13-2016, 05:40 AM
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look at the rear shock bottom bolt if a lowering kit was installed.. Tire height will also affect.. not sure how much though
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04-13-2016, 07:52 AM
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Go to a dealer and sit on a new Vaquero, if it is heavier to pull off the side stand then yours is likely lowered. It may have a rear shock lowering kit, or aftermarket shorter shocks, and maybe shorter springs inside the forks or the fork tubes slid higher in the triple clamp.
Check the rubber bumpers under your driver footboards, if they are worn or missing your footboards will be drooping down and will scrape too soon. I replaced my rubber bumpers with 2 nylon bolts which make my footboards tilt upwards which really increases lean angles.
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04-13-2016, 08:53 AM
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So I'm having a bit of a reverse issue. Just bought a Vaquero and I'm a bit of a short ass so I'm not quite flat foot, close but not quite. I have only ridden it for about 250K so far (Damn winter won't let go up here in Ottawa) and have not had any issues yet. It handles well, carves turns nicely, and balances well when I come to a stop. Though I have been looking at lowering options - I think not. While practicing in a parking lot I have scraped floorboards already so I'm thinking I'm going to leave it at stock height and just get used to respecting its height and weight. Appreciate any thoughts.
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04-13-2016, 11:05 AM
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Maybe you two should trade.
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04-23-2016, 11:20 AM
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I would think it is possible that a car tire like the one on your bike may have a low side wall and being the tread pattern is flat, could adversely affect handling and clearance. My Vaquero has ample cornering capabilities running the Michelin 180/65 16 Commander on the rear and front Commander II as a pair. If the rear suspension on your new Vaquero hasn't been lowered, it may just be the shocks need some good air. I run 35 psi in mine all the time keeping the back end up a little more hence the better cornering clearance.
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04-24-2016, 09:23 PM
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If your skoot is darksided what size tire is mounted on the rear, and front?Under sized tires will drop you closer to the ground. How much air pressure is in the tires? Also, how much air pressure is in the rear shocks and what setting are they set at? How much do you weigh? Have the rear shocks been modified to lower the rear? Pictures can help. The owners manual will give you some reference points. All these things can influence your ground clearance.  
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04-25-2016, 01:21 PM
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rear tire is a CT dunlap sp5000 in 190/65/16 (which is 0.4" small in diameter compared to an OEM MT) running 28 PSi shocks running around 20 and 3 out of 4 clicks on the dampening factor. I weight 240 ish. Shocks appear to be OEM when looking at the progressive shocks online that are for sale. I tried using around 30 PSI in the shocks but around big sweeping curves it kept me bouncing and was SKETCHY. |
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04-25-2016, 01:26 PM
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I would assume it is your floorboards that are dragging?
Get the bike upright, measure from the scraper on the bottom of the floor board to the ground. Also from the bottom of your exhaust pipe, at the very end to the ground. Again while the bike is upright....not on the sidestand. Lets get those numbers and compare that to someone else that is stock and see where you are. |
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04-25-2016, 01:33 PM
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04-25-2016, 05:39 PM
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04-25-2016, 07:04 PM
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OH! And i measured the floor boards. At the very very veRY!!! back of the floor board "lowest point" they sit about 9.625" off the ground. I didn't measure the exhaust as mine as rashed badly and all brands would be different. |
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04-29-2016, 04:22 AM
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I don't think you are running enough tire pressure. On the rear I have a Yokohama Avid Assend 205/60/16 LRR. It's rated for 51 psi max. I run 50-51 psi. I started out at 42 psi, then 48 psi. When the pressures are lower its not stable. A fellow rider went to the dark side and experienced the same with lower tire pressures. On the front is a Commander II and I run 40-42 psi. You may be getting tire squirm where the side walls are flexing back and forth allowing the tire to move side to side. Your tires should give you the maximum pressure they are rated for. Pump them up to the max and see how they respond.
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