Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire?

mac · 02-02-2009, 02:46 PM

I’m in the process of changing my own tire (ME880 180/70-16). Breaking the bead was a chore (finally have that down), but getting it off the wheel wasn’t much of a problem. Getting it back on the first side was pretty easy, but the second side seems to be a real stretch.

For those mounting their own tires, have you found it more difficult to get the oversized rear tire on the rim? Is this just something everyone tends to send out to a bike shop to get mounted?

Any tips, techniques or hints of advice?

The Dynabeads should arrive Wednesday.

TIA,
Mac

cactusjack · 02-02-2009, 03:00 PM

I just did mine a week ago, and it was a lot harder getting the old tire off the rim, especially the second bead. New tire went on fast and easy. I mounted a Cobra 180/70HR16.

bear · 02-02-2009, 04:00 PM

I suspect tire quality control is not what it could be. I used a tire machine to remove the old tire off my rear wheel and it wasn't too hard to come off. However, I put an OEM Bridgestone back on it and it was tough. It took about thirty minutes for the second bead to seat and seal. We put enough air pressure in it to lift the Titanic before it finally popped and hit the bead.

Todd · 02-02-2009, 04:25 PM

Don't know if your new tire was cold/cool....but an old trick is to lay it out in the sun or on some asphalt to warm it up so it is more plyable.

watchman · 02-02-2009, 06:15 PM

Be sure that when you are trying to get the second side on, that the opposite side of the tire is in the middle of the rim and not up on the bead edge. Also use lots of soap/tire lube on the tire.

blowndodge · 02-02-2009, 06:26 PM

Tood you rascal! Thats and old and very valuable tip!!!

A real warm tire is 10X easier to work with!! (That's why Todd takes a long hot shower before he tried to put his slacks on!!!

)

rlfaubion · 02-02-2009, 11:08 PM

Having been inducted into the tire changing hall of fame just this past weekend with Redeye, we learned the hard way. Here's how to solve your problem.

When mounting the second-side of the tire: lip your tire with the bar and run the bar 50% around the rim to the point where it gets tight (like you said), then flip the bar up and over the tire. Again flip the lever or bar away from you and towards the rubber part of the tire..... This is the part I forgot to read in the instructions ....
Good luck man!

mac · 02-03-2009, 11:50 AM

Thanks guys. It is cool here, but not real cold (in Houston). Do yall use 3 spoons for this? I currently only have 2. I've done tire changes on my 1500 classic several years ago but not with an oversized tire and didn't know if that causes it to be more difficult to mount.

Received the DynaBeads last night - so now I just need to finish mounting the tire and get the beads in there so I can go for a ride.

So sounds like the main tips are to warm up the tire and use plenty of lube, trying to keep the oppisite side of the tire in the middle of the rim. I knew about some of these tips, just wasn't sure if the larger tire was making it harder to keep in the middle of the rim while mounting - seems like it to me.

towering · 02-03-2009, 07:03 PM

What are Dynabeads ?

dogdoc · 02-04-2009, 01:50 PM

tiny ceramic beads that you can add inside the tire to replace weights. Its always in balance no matter how the tire wears. Works like a champ. :-)

spirello · 02-04-2009, 02:33 PM

The bead is usually really hard to break. I set the wheel out in the sun to warm it up spray some wd-40 on the bead and tap this in all around the bead works like a champ.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...o_bead_popper/

donoller · 02-04-2009, 04:04 PM

metzler are real tough. putting out in the sun is very good also cut some small blocks of wood and put them on under side of tire ,to make the tire go toward the center of wheel use tire lube and you should have no problem .or buy a nomar tire changer it makes life a whole lot easier.

cactusjack · 02-04-2009, 04:24 PM

I bought a bead breaker for $39.99 from Harbor Freight. It made breaking the bead very effortless.

towering · 02-04-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc (Lonewolf)

tiny ceramic beads that you can add inside the tire to replace weights. Its always in balance no matter how the tire wears. Works like a champ. :-)

How much do you add?

lw · 02-04-2009, 05:38 PM

I went up to the 180/70 this time as well (Elite 3), but being mechanically reclined instead of inclined I let Discount Motorcycle Tire put mine on. They had it off, and the new one remounted in under a half hour including removing/replacing the bags while I had lunch across the street from the shop.

02-02-2009, 02:46 PM	#1
mac Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, Texas USA Posts: 265	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? I’m in the process of changing my own tire (ME880 180/70-16). Breaking the bead was a chore (finally have that down), but getting it off the wheel wasn’t much of a problem. Getting it back on the first side was pretty easy, but the second side seems to be a real stretch. For those mounting their own tires, have you found it more difficult to get the oversized rear tire on the rim? Is this just something everyone tends to send out to a bike shop to get mounted? Any tips, techniques or hints of advice? The Dynabeads should arrive Wednesday. TIA, Mac __________________ ~Ride Safe~ Mac Dennis "Master Mac" McHenry VROC#880, VBA#673, DarkSide#273 '15 Harley-Davidson Ultra Limited '05 Vulcan 1600 Nomad (Left the nest) '02 Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi (RIP) '95 Vulcan 750, (Retired) Houston/Klien, Tx Login or Register to Remove Ads
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02-02-2009, 03:00 PM	#2
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? I just did mine a week ago, and it was a lot harder getting the old tire off the rim, especially the second bead. New tire went on fast and easy. I mounted a Cobra 180/70HR16. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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02-02-2009, 04:00 PM	#3
bear Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 322	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? I suspect tire quality control is not what it could be. I used a tire machine to remove the old tire off my rear wheel and it wasn't too hard to come off. However, I put an OEM Bridgestone back on it and it was tough. It took about thirty minutes for the second bead to seat and seal. We put enough air pressure in it to lift the Titanic before it finally popped and hit the bead.
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02-02-2009, 04:25 PM	#4
Todd Top Contributor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 5,915	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? Don't know if your new tire was cold/cool....but an old trick is to lay it out in the sun or on some asphalt to warm it up so it is more plyable. __________________ Todd Frazier VBA #0003 VBA National Leader-USA Operations/Garage Moderator - RETIRED 2006 Black Nomad since she was born Greensboro, NC
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02-02-2009, 06:15 PM	#5
watchman Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Macon, Missouri Posts: 1,175	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? Be sure that when you are trying to get the second side on, that the opposite side of the tire is in the middle of the rim and not up on the bead edge. Also use lots of soap/tire lube on the tire. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? Tood you rascal! Thats and old and very valuable tip!!! A real warm tire is 10X easier to work with!! (That's why Todd takes a long hot shower before he tried to put his slacks on!!! ) __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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02-02-2009, 11:08 PM	#7
rlfaubion Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,582	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? Having been inducted into the tire changing hall of fame just this past weekend with Redeye, we learned the hard way. Here's how to solve your problem. When mounting the second-side of the tire: lip your tire with the bar and run the bar 50% around the rim to the point where it gets tight (like you said), then flip the bar up and over the tire. Again flip the lever or bar away from you and towards the rubber part of the tire..... This is the part I forgot to read in the instructions .... Good luck man!
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02-03-2009, 11:50 AM	#8
mac Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, Texas USA Posts: 265	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? Thanks guys. It is cool here, but not real cold (in Houston). Do yall use 3 spoons for this? I currently only have 2. I've done tire changes on my 1500 classic several years ago but not with an oversized tire and didn't know if that causes it to be more difficult to mount. Received the DynaBeads last night - so now I just need to finish mounting the tire and get the beads in there so I can go for a ride. So sounds like the main tips are to warm up the tire and use plenty of lube, trying to keep the oppisite side of the tire in the middle of the rim. I knew about some of these tips, just wasn't sure if the larger tire was making it harder to keep in the middle of the rim while mounting - seems like it to me. __________________ ~Ride Safe~ Mac Dennis "Master Mac" McHenry VROC#880, VBA#673, DarkSide#273 '15 Harley-Davidson Ultra Limited '05 Vulcan 1600 Nomad (Left the nest) '02 Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi (RIP) '95 Vulcan 750, (Retired) Houston/Klien, Tx
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02-03-2009, 07:03 PM	#9
towering Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington S.C Posts: 366	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? What are Dynabeads ?
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02-04-2009, 01:50 PM	#10
dogdoc Top Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,263	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? tiny ceramic beads that you can add inside the tire to replace weights. Its always in balance no matter how the tire wears. Works like a champ. :-)
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02-04-2009, 02:33 PM	#11
spirello Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: VANCOUVER WA Posts: 576	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? The bead is usually really hard to break. I set the wheel out in the sun to warm it up spray some wd-40 on the bead and tap this in all around the bead works like a champ. http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/...o_bead_popper/
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02-04-2009, 04:04 PM	#12
donoller Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: jackson tn. Posts: 555	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? metzler are real tough. putting out in the sun is very good also cut some small blocks of wood and put them on under side of tire ,to make the tire go toward the center of wheel use tire lube and you should have no problem .or buy a nomar tire changer it makes life a whole lot easier.
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02-04-2009, 04:24 PM	#13
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? I bought a bead breaker for $39.99 from Harbor Freight. It made breaking the bead very effortless. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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02-04-2009, 05:38 PM	#15
lw Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pasadena, Texas Posts: 2,117	Difficulty mounting 180/70-16 rear tire? I went up to the 180/70 this time as well (Elite 3), but being mechanically reclined instead of inclined I let Discount Motorcycle Tire put mine on. They had it off, and the new one remounted in under a half hour including removing/replacing the bags while I had lunch across the street from the shop.
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