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11-25-2011, 12:06 PM | #1 |
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going to the darkside
Need a new rear tire and since I am riding about 100miles per day commuting, I decided to go with a car tire. I just purchased a Hankook H427 195/60/16. Has anyone used this tire?
I can't complain about my dunlop Elite 3, it has about 15K on it. It is a good tire, but I got a quote of $310 installed for the E3 and I would rather try the car tire. I found a shop here in Phoenix that will mount the tire for $50. Once the tire arrives and I get it mounted, I will have less than $150 in it. Hopefully I will like it.
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11-25-2011, 12:11 PM | #2 |
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I run a 196-60-16 bridgestone turanza on my 2008 Nomad. Love the tire.
What bike do you have?? Go here and look at the tire data base to see what others have done. also use this calculator to compare that tire with the factory rear tire. http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos I personally would NOT run a 50 series tire on a Nomad. here is a good link lots of ready. http://forums.delphiforums.com/DarkSiding Bob
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My bike is a 2007 Nomad 1600
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11-25-2011, 01:11 PM | #4 |
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That is a good size for the Nomad. It will give you plenty of clearance between the tire and the drive shaft housing.
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11-25-2011, 02:00 PM | #5 |
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From Metzler:
Hello Thanks for the e-mail. There are always misconceptions about tires that never seem to go away. It seems that many people think tires are simply a universal product and they can be randomly use in any application and as the consumer see fits. This of course is very far from the truth. The TRA (Tire and Rim Assoc.) and the ETRTO (European Tire and Rim Assoc.) set standards for the tire and rim industry to follow to guarantee safety and cohesiveness in said industry. This means that there are specifications that must be adhered to and when you look at motorcycle and automotive wheels you will find 2 things. The first thing is the rim flange area where the tire fits to the rim, and the specifications (shape, spacing, measurements) for the automotive wheel are very different than a motorcycle wheel. Secondly is the diameter of the rim where the bottom of the bead rests. Again the diameter specification for the automotive wheel is very different than a motorcycle rim. So while you can say a 16" tire should have EXACTLY the same diameter whether it is a car tire or bike tire the truth is that they do not! So installing a motorcycle tire on a auto rim or a automotive tire on a motorcycle rim would be unsafe and a catastrophic failure could happen during the installation or during use. Obviously the answer to the question is that NO motorcycle tire company can do what you ask because the industry's strict design and safety standards will not allow it. With this in mind we do not think we need to go into detail about the idea of incorrectly using a flat profile automotive tire on a vehicle that leans through a corner like a motorcycle does. We hope this helps and have a great day. NA Metzeler Consumer Affairs 877 202-4993 www.us.metzelermoto.com
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11-25-2011, 03:31 PM | #6 |
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You put this up like CT riders care?? CT have been on motorcycle back in the pan head and shovel head days of HD... I seriously doubt we need more studies to verify if it's a safe move or not..
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No automobile tire manufacturer will tell you it's okay to run a car tire on a motorcycle due to potential liability issues.
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Thereafter you are (by and large) readily identified as a "CT Hater" and as such your opinion on car tires (or in BD's case a truck tire) on motorcycles is greatly ignored by those of us who have thousands of satisfied miles on the tires that you hate. (even though they out perform the ones that you prefer) More over, most of the folks that actually think for themselves can figure out that a tire manufacturer that makes a $250 tire and a $120 tire for the same application, would rather sell as many of the $250 tires as possible since they cost about the same to make. As you continually rant on this subject, IMHO you either have never had a CT on a cruiser, or you are jealous that they won't fit on your BMW.
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11-25-2011, 04:48 PM | #9 |
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I don't think Metzler makes car tires. At least I haven't seen them in this country.
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I am not a hater. My only point is that beyond cost and longevity, the reasoning to use them starts to get fantastical and counterfactual. I can understand frugality and I even participate in it. That said, I'd never put a car tire on the beemer unless I was running a side car. Then it makes sense as it changes how the bike is used/handles. I wish you many miles and smiles on the Nomad and keep the shiny side up!
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As usual you are correct in what you say, but the truth lies between us.
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OK you made my point. A quality Car tire out performs any motorcycle tire on a cruiser. . .
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11-25-2011, 05:05 PM | #13 |
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Exactly, Metzler won't encourage you use something they don't sell and profit from
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I asked Michelin the same question, we'll see what they say.
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I love you too Mark.
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