[jestephens]

Kaygee, that's not a bad idea. I like the look of the apes, but the real reason I'm more determined to change something is the stock bars are too close. I have them adjusted as far "up" as they can, but I'm left still wanting.

And you're right! If I'm going to chop a pair of bars anyhow, I could cut a wedge out of my stock bars and re-weld to create the extra bend. Interesting . . . .
OR, a set of risers, although coming back an inch, may buy me enough room to push the stock bars forward more. ????