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[trip]

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Trip

[bluetongue]

Trip,I see you even got the message board up and running.

[trip]

Yep...as far as I know, I've got everything up and running. Thanks for signing in bluetongue and GH.

Trip

[trip]

GH,
I'm ready to head to Jefferson in a couple of weeks. When is a good time for you?

[bluetongue]

I gotta ask what is in and where is Jefferson?

[trip]

Jefferson is the oldest town in Texas and is located just north of Marshall in the eastern part of Texas. Over the years, it's become a fav place for motorcyclists to ride to. They've got a biker bar called Auntie Skinners that's a fine place to eat. The roads getting there are not bad either.

[bluetongue]

I may be interested in going to check it out. Can you give me your time line so I can see if this ride would fit into my screwy schedule.

[nightflight1]

Trip, thanks for getting this site up and running. I'll be checking this one out as well as the TX VROC site. I'm sure this site will be very successful and appreciated by all.

[bluetongue]

LOL I guess I should read the posts instead of just scanning over them. Yall let me know when a date is set since it is only 200 miles or so to Jefferson

[trip]

Night Flight....thanks for visiting the forum. I hope all of us can help others with their Nomad questions.

bluetongue....GH and I can certainly get you to Jefferson if you're interested. I can't do it next weekend, but I think I can on June 30 or July 1. Is Saturday or Sunday better for you?

When can you make it GH?

[tconnell]

Trip and gang...

I have a question and haven't been able to find the answer.

Does anyone have an idea as to the specs on the 05' or 06' Nomad Alternator?

I know that most of us have extra lights, radios, GPS and other gear that is taking off power from the bike. I have actually left on the Garmin 2620 GPS overnight as that circuit is hot all the time. The bike cranked with no problem next morning in the cold of the NC mountains. I was a bit surprised that it didn't even seem like the battery was down a bit. I have never had a starting problem and never put the charger to the battery since getting it, so with the riding, the alternator must be doing it's job in good fashion.

Also as a second part, who has put on a better horn and what type is it?

Info is appreciated.

[trip]

tconnell.....I moved your post over to it's own thread so that others can easily see it and reply.

Trip

[bluetongue]

Trip, does not matter on which weekend and yes Saturday would be better for me.

[trip]

bluetongue,
I can ride to Jefferson Saturday, June 30th. Does that sound good to you? And how about you GH?

Trip

[bluetongue]

GH, I will ask the director and get back with yall. (sounds fun to me) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif I may have to solo this one due to her work schedule,but you never know she does like hanging out with yall. Where is the lake house?

[bluetongue]

GH, I talked to the Director and she said yes to your plan. Can you please send me some directions. I will coming up 59 due to my hatred of I-45.

[johnk]

I just purchased a new Nomad. I was wanting to know what the different was between the cobra bar lights and the Kuryakyn 35 watt Silver bullet lights. Does one do a better job lighting the road. I live in a very rural area and alot of my riding is back country rural roads. I would appreciate any input! Thanks!

[trip]

johnk,
I can tell you from experience that if you want to light up the road in a rural area, you'll probably do better with a cobra light bar. The Kury bullet lights look nice, but aren't as powerful as the cobra lights.

Just my 2 cents worth...
Trip

[trip]

GH and bluetongue,
Sounds good for Saturday, June 30th. We can plan a meeting place when the 30th gets closer.

Trip

[coon]

Hey Trip, is Jefferson Ride for Nomads only?

[bluetongue]

GH, sounds good no rush I have a basic idea of where your lake house is located.(general area)

[trip]

<<<Hey Trip, is Jefferson Ride for Nomads only? >>>

Coon, This forum may be focused on Nomads, but rides are for everybody. You're certainly welcome to come.

GH, Sweet Sues sounds good. We can shore up the time later.

[trip]

bluetongue,
I went through Splendora on 59 a few weeks ago. I took my wife, son and his girlfriend to a wedding in Huffman. Stayed in Humble for the weekend. We had a good time.

You may already have it planned this way but after getting on 69N in Lufkin, when you get to Jacksonville, hang a left onto Hwy 175 and go West to Frankston. Then go North on 155 to GH's lake house. I've never been to his lake house, but this seems a logical way to go.

[bluetongue]

Trip, My thoughts exactly seems a little boring but the most direct route.

[okienomad]

Just upgraded to a near new 2006 Nomad. Liking everything about it except the fuel mileage. After factoring in the 10% (confirmed) speedo error, I consistently get only 30-31 mpg. Long trips, short trips, no matter.

I have looked all over on this bike for a choke thinking this could be where my fuel is going. Finally got the owners manual yesterday and it shows a choke knob mounted on the left side of the bike just above the horn. No dice - no choke on this 2006.

Trip, you have already replied to my e-mail on this subject and are getting for the most part better mileage than this. Just wondering what other Nomad owners are getting. Note: This bike is still STOCK for now. Figuring to add some AIR and open up the exhaust later, but for now, just stock.

I did notice fuel dripping from one of the drain tubes near the oil filter one day when pulling into the drive. I just topped off my tank, so don't know if it was some sort of vent or a relief. Keeping an eye on that as well.

By the way - GREAT NEW WEBSITE and gotta love these forums. Great way to share info.
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[bluetongue]

Look under the left side of tank the dealer prolly did not pull off the rubber band that holds it up there alot of folks have the same problem.

[okienomad]

12 hours on this Forum and it is already paying off!

Bluetongue, you hit the nail on the head! Choke was up there attached to the spark plug wires with a rubber band, just as you had said it would. Did not appear to be pulled out though, so don't guess it was costing me any fuel mileage.

Since I bought this bike off of the original owner with only 1800 miles on it, makes me wonder what else the "dealer prolly did not" do.

Good catch Bluetongue! Wanna talk fuel mileage ??

okienomad
As I mentioned in my post (what octane do you use) on my 1,250 mile trip to Cherohala Skyway and back I got an average of 44.5 mpg. on my 2007 Nomad that now (after trip) has 3,500 miles on it. My odometer checked dead accurate with the mile marker post on the interstate so I didn't calculate for error in the mileage . My speedometer is optimistic I know this because I approached some of those roadside readout signs that tells you how fast you are going. So on my Nomad the odometer which I base my fuel mileage on is ok, only the mph reading is off. I am pleased with my fuel mileage , however I do need to use the higher octane fuel.

okienomad
Got to thinking a little more about your poor fuel mileage. Perhaps the previous owner adjusted the throttle position sensor to a richer position and adjusted it too rich. Sometimes this adjustment is done to reduce pinging an make it possible to use a lower octane fuel. Gadget's Nomad site describes the procedure for doing this. If you have very little pinging even on 87 octane and show any signs of richness such as strong exhaust odor or black rich looking exhaust when accelerating perhaps this might be worth checking into.

[trip]

okienomad,
Had the same thing happen to me with the choke. In fact, Groundhog and I were talking at break in a ride we were on. I mentioned the fact that there was an empty bracket on the frame next to the horn. Groundhog said that that was where the idle enhancement (choke) knob went. He directed me to look under the tank. Like you, I found mine there too.

As far as I can tell, that's all that wasn't installed when I took delivery from the Kawa dealer.

Trip

[jeffm]

the knob you are talking about is just a fast idle not choke since they are fuel injected. i get 40 mpg on mine. i added a fi2000r processor when i put the caddman intake on. playing with diff. settings i got as low as 33 & high as 41. with the settings i have now i can run 87 octane without pinging. bike seems to run just as good on any octane. i have only used the fast idle knob since i unhooked the cold air senors. before i never had to use it at all. yes my dealer also left it under the tank.

[bubbagee]

looking at a 2004 1500 for $8000 or a 2005 1600 for $9400
Is there really that much difference between the two?

[rzuni]

I have a 2007 and I get about 200 miles on a tank just me and about 170 two up. I weigh about 250 and my wife is about 180. so I must be doing pretty well to get the mileage I am getting. On a recent ride to Rockport I actually got 186 on the tank two up.

[okienomad]

okienomad
Got to thinking a little more about your poor fuel mileage. Perhaps the previous owner adjusted the throttle position sensor to a richer position and adjusted it too rich. Sometimes this adjustment is done to reduce pinging an make it possible to use a lower octane fuel. Gadget's Nomad site describes the procedure for doing this.

Checked my WOT Voltage and found to be 4.50v. Does not appear to have been tampered with so assume this is the factory setting. Will require "hollow bit" Torx bits to adjust, so I just left as is for now. Going to try some 87 octane fuel and see if it pings. It does appear to be running rich.

Interesting. According to Gadget's site the fuel injection is sometime richened by installing a resistor and not adjusting the TPS. Might look for that also. Just a thought.

[Top Cat]

the knob you are talking about is just a fast idle not choke since they are fuel injected.

My 2007 has a fast idle knob on the right side by the air cover AND a choke on the left side up in front by the frame downtube.

[ponch]

I get 38-40 and I am 350 Lbs...I got crappy mileage like that when the bike was first breaking in. May be it is not broken in yet. Has the oil been changed?





Just upgraded to a near new 2006 Nomad. Liking everything about it except the fuel mileage. After factoring in the 10% (confirmed) speedo error, I consistently get only 30-31 mpg. Long trips, short trips, no matter.

I have looked all over on this bike for a choke thinking this could be where my fuel is going. Finally got the owners manual yesterday and it shows a choke knob mounted on the left side of the bike just above the horn. No dice - no choke on this 2006.

Trip, you have already replied to my e-mail on this subject and are getting for the most part better mileage than this. Just wondering what other Nomad owners are getting. Note: This bike is still STOCK for now. Figuring to add some AIR and open up the exhaust later, but for now, just stock.

I did notice fuel dripping from one of the drain tubes near the oil filter one day when pulling into the drive. I just topped off my tank, so don't know if it was some sort of vent or a relief. Keeping an eye on that as well.

By the way - GREAT NEW WEBSITE and gotta love these forums. Great way to share info.
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[scion0]

[quote:xt6g13wi]

My 2007 has a fast idle knob on the right side by the air cover AND a choke on the left side up in front by the frame downtube.

What you are calling a choke, is in fact a Fuel enrichment (fast idle for start up), there is no choke on the FI Nomad.

If you have a FI car, then you should notice that when you start it, it idles faster as soon as you start it then the idle goes down. The knob on the left does the same thing only it's manually operated.[/quote:xt6g13wi]


Ok, question about the fast idle adjustment. What and how should it be set? My dealer told me it was fine when the first oil change / service was done but it seems fast (high) to me...

I noticed that I do have both a choke and an idle adjustment on my 2007 Nomad.

Thanks in advance ....

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Trip

Thank you sir!!!! :)

[scion0]

[quote:xn5fdn5s]

What you are calling a choke, is in fact a Fuel enrichment (fast idle for start up), there is no choke on the FI Nomad.

If you have a FI car, then you should notice that when you start it, it idles faster as soon as you start it then the idle goes down. The knob on the left does the same thing only it's manually operated.


Ok, question about the fast idle adjustment. What and how should it be set? My dealer told me it was fine when the first oil change / service was done but it seems fast (high) to me...

I noticed that I do have both a choke and an idle adjustment on my 2007 Nomad.

Thanks in advance ....
[/quote:xn5fdn5s]


No comments? No advise? Hmm http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif ;)

[quote:jzui35i0]


Ok, question about the fast idle adjustment. What and how should it be set? My dealer told me it was fine when the first oil change / service was done but it seems fast (high) to me...

I noticed that I do have both a choke and an idle adjustment on my 2007 Nomad.

Thanks in advance ....



No comments? No advise? Hmm http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif ;)[/quote:jzui35i0]


BD will step up & answer this one for you I'm sure..... I have a regular choke on my Carb'd model...

[blowndodge]

You have a fast idle adjustment on the left hand side of the bike that is only used for either high altitude or very cold weather. It is not an "enrichment" device and you can't easily change its setting. It's hooked to the injector to slightly open the throttle, thats all. The knob under the right side round cover is the idle adjustment. That one is for the bike when its fully warmed up. Factory settings are 950 rpms +- 50.

[scion0]

You have a fast idle adjustment on the left hand side of the bike that is only used for either high altitude or very cold weather. It is not an "enrichment" device and you can't easily change its setting. It's hooked to the injector to slightly open the throttle, thats all. The knob under the right side round cover is the idle adjustment. That one is for the bike when its fully warmed up. Factory settings are 950 rpms +- 50.

Thanks BD

[scion0]

Although tough to check without a tach. :-( now that I think about my situation.

[blowndodge]

use a volt ohm meter. most have an rpm scale if you look carefully at it. Hook up to power and plug and use the 2 cylinder scale.

You have a fast idle adjustment on the left hand side of the bike that is only used for either high altitude or very cold weather. It is not an "enrichment" device and you can't easily change its setting. It's hooked to the injector to slightly open the throttle, thats all. The knob under the right side round cover is the idle adjustment. That one is for the bike when its fully warmed up. Factory settings are 950 rpms +- 50.


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[blowndodge]

That's the rumor.....

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