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csguru
07-24-2008, 09:22 PM
Next to bafflectomy posts it seems oil posts are the second most revisited of late so to that end................

What type of engine lubrication do you use?


I use Amsoil

cactusjack
07-24-2008, 10:56 PM
I use whatever the dealer puts in the crankcase. I believe it's Kawasaki 20W50.

Cajunrider
07-25-2008, 06:14 AM
My 4,000 mile oil change is coming up and it will be Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w/50. Very mild winters down here and blistering summers.

ringadingh
07-25-2008, 07:41 AM
Rotella T 15W40 dino, every 3000 miles

07-25-2008, 07:48 AM
Amsoil

VulcanE
07-25-2008, 09:07 AM
my 600 mile oil change was done by the dealer, and they used the Yamaha 10W-40. After that I started using the Mobil 1 racing 4T 10W-40, and I couldn't belive the difference it made in how well the gears started shifting. I change my oil every 4000 miles, and up to the fall of '07 used the Mobil 1. A friend talked me into using the Amsoil. Since it was fall, I used the 10W-40. It improve the shifting and preformance over the Mobil 1. and in late spring, I changed to the Amsoil 20W-50 and am very pleased with it. But at last, the price has gone up to $12 a quart around here, so I'm thinking of trying the Royal Purple this fall ($9 a quart)

dogdoc
07-25-2008, 09:51 AM
Rotella full syn 5W-40 once a year.

waterman
07-25-2008, 10:49 AM
Amsoil 10-40

billmac
07-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w/50

$10 quart at Auto Zone, ouch! However, it makes me feel better when I am riding in the Texas heat.

dkdixie
07-25-2008, 08:19 PM
Amsoil 20-50.....and it does make a difference, even over Amsoil 10-40!!!

Worth the extra money.....

radco
07-25-2008, 08:21 PM
I use Synthetic in my Honda and just put Mobile1 V Twin 20/50 in my Nomad... so far so good. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Rich

doc
07-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Had the bike in for its Oil Change and requested Synthetic, when I got it back they had put in 10W40 Mineral Oil, whatever that is, also they recharged my K&N for the tune of $15.00 even though it had only about 250 miles on it. When I questioned everything they said they don't recommend Syn and any K&N filters. Good thing it was a hell of a storm coming up so I got the hell out of there. Anyway it was only $186.00 for the pleasure of talking to a technician (?) who wasn't born before I started riding.

donoller
07-25-2008, 11:01 PM
mobile-1 v twin oil 20/50 $7.98 per quart.

mrfuni
07-26-2008, 05:30 AM
Mobil 1 V Twin 20/50
Can't prove it but I swear it runs cooler and quieter. No clutch slip.

namvet
07-26-2008, 09:49 AM
Rotella 5w40 synthetic from Wally World......

nomad
07-26-2008, 01:15 PM
mobil 1 synthetic 15w-50

bigdave
07-26-2008, 02:31 PM
Mobil 1 v twin 20w-50

07-26-2008, 04:59 PM
So far my single vote stands alone!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

waterman
07-26-2008, 05:58 PM
So far my single vote stands alone!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif



Yep Nico, you normally are out standing by yourself. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

blowndodge
07-26-2008, 07:48 PM
Remind me not to let you do any service to my Nomad ok?? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

07-26-2008, 07:49 PM
So far my single vote stands alone!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif



Yep Nico, you are outstanding! http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif


Thank you waterman!


http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

ells
07-26-2008, 07:51 PM
Just a minute, WTF! Where is the negative sign in front of Nico's karma rating?????? Did I miss something?? I declare foul!!! :)

07-26-2008, 07:53 PM
Remind me not to let you do any service to my Nomad ok?? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Geez BD... I thought you loved the Nico's secret recipe!

1 quart Mobil 1 15-50
1 quart Rotella Syn 5-40
1 quart Valvoline VR-1 60 Racing
3/4 quart Castrol 20-50 dyno


yummy! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

07-26-2008, 07:54 PM
Just a minute, WTF! Where is the negative sign in front of Nico's karma rating?????? Did I miss something?? I declare foul!!! :)


This is Nico's alter-ego.. ;)

07-27-2008, 12:32 AM
Nico had a visit from the Karma Fairy. Next thing we know his Karma went from an innie to an outie.

I'm not sure how that works, but it's gotta be true. I saw it written on the wall in the Senior Members Restroom.

07-27-2008, 01:40 AM
Nico had a visit from the Karma Fairy. Next thing we know his Karma went from an innie to an outie.

I'm not sure how that works, but it's gotta be true. I saw it written on the wall in the Senior Members Restroom.


http://retardnews.newsvine.com/news/2007/08/28/927132-tapping-feet-in-restrooms-is-a-misdemeanor

sturmannderss
07-28-2008, 03:58 AM
I just changed mine. I used 3 qts. of Mobil1 15/w50(Truck Oil) and added the balnce with Lucasoil Oil Stabilizer. It seemed to smooth out the engine and shifting. I'll see what it looks like at the next drain interval.

blowndodge
07-28-2008, 09:51 AM
Nico had a visit from the Karma Fairy. Next thing we know his Karma went from an innie to an outie.

I'm not sure how that works, but it's gotta be true. I saw it written on the wall in the Senior Members Restroom.

All this talk about innie and outie and Nico being a Fairy is making me sick!!!!

csguru
07-28-2008, 09:54 AM
As long as it's not making you hot.......
:-/

07-28-2008, 09:56 AM
As long as it's not making you hot.......
:-/



http://www.tama.com/FORUM/uploads/ricohorton/2007-06-25_005653_ROFLMAO.gif
Nico's dick's so tiny!

Cajunrider
07-29-2008, 08:00 PM
Just did my 4,000 mile change Saturday. Mobil 1 20w-50 for $8.58 per quart and SuperTech filter for $2.48 at WalMart. I spoke to the mechanic at the dealership who put my son's V900 together about blending 20w-50 and 10w-40 in the winter months. He told me that many he knows do this but the specific gravity of the 20w-50 is higher than the 10w-40 causing the heavier oil to settle at the bottom of the crankcase overnight. Working in the NGL industry with different component specific gravitys never brought this to my mind. I would have thought that the oils would have blended somewhere between 20/50 and 10/40 and remained there. He did say that shortly after the engine is started the oils are blended again??

07-29-2008, 09:37 PM
Just did my 4,000 mile change Saturday. Mobil 1 20w-50 for $8.58 per quart and SuperTech filter for $2.48 at WalMart. I spoke to the mechanic at the dealership who put my son's V900 together about blending 20w-50 and 10w-40 in the winter months. He told me that many he knows do this but the specific gravity of the 20w-50 is higher than the 10w-40 causing the heavier oil to settle at the bottom of the crankcase overnight. Working in the NGL industry with different component specific gravitys never brought this to my mind. I would have thought that the oils would have blended somewhere between 20/50 and 10/40 and remained there. He did say that shortly after the engine is started the oils are blended again??


Let's hear from the experts on this one.... I would have thought they blended.... ::) and if they don't.... is there a problem with the heavier oil settling anyway? My understanding is that 20-50 is 20wt that acts like 50 at higher temps... http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

C'mon BD and Cadd... enlighten.... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

(I love oil threads) lol

07-31-2008, 12:16 AM
As far as I know to have the API symbol on them, all engine oils must be compatible and should blend just fine.

If you mix 10w40 and 20w-50 you do not get 15w-45 though. The business isn't proportional as far as the numbers go.

This should be easy to prove, Nico. Put some 10w40 and 20w-50 in a glass jar and shake it up good. Let it sit over night & see if it settles out in 2 layers. I do not think it will.

08-01-2008, 09:43 AM
As far as I know to have the API symbol on them, all engine oils must be compatible and should blend just fine.

If you mix 10w40 and 20w-50 you do not get 15w-45 though. The business isn't proportional as far as the numbers go.

This should be easy to prove, Nico. Put some 10w40 and 20w-50 in a glass jar and shake it up good. Let it sit over night & see if it settles out in 2 layers. I do not think it will.


Now you tell me Cadd... I used BD's alternate method. I drank some of each and waited to see which came out first.... ;)

08-01-2008, 02:36 PM
well with the 15w being lighter, that should have come out through the mouth, and the 45w being heavier should have come out the, well, lets just say no need for Preparation H is needed.

coacha
08-01-2008, 07:50 PM
I run 20W-50 synthetic in mine, can't remember the brand (Castrol probably from Autozone).

pablo
08-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Royal Purple Max-Cycle 20W50 summer; 10W40 winter.

08-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Nico, with the mixture you're running, you'd see stripes in the site glass. ;)

And please believe me when I say that being Italian does NOT give you the ability to digest motor oil. Olive oil, yes. Canola oil, fine, Peanut oil? OK if you're not allergic. Corn oil? Sure, but forget the motor oil. You'll be springing a leak that no additive will stop. ;)

08-05-2008, 09:49 AM
Nico, with the mixture you're running, you'd see stripes in the site glass. ;)

And please believe me when I say that being Italian does NOT give you the ability to digest motor oil. Olive oil, yes. Canola oil, fine, Peanut oil? OK if you're not allergic. Corn oil? Sure, but forget the motor oil. You'll be springing a leak that no additive will stop. ;)



http://www.anecdotoff.com/uploads/posts/2008-01/1201077863_shoot-me-al-bundy.jpg ;)

08-05-2008, 06:39 PM
http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif LOL http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

djh
08-10-2008, 02:21 AM
MOBIL 1 V TWIN 20W50 CHANGED IT TODAY @ 4000 MILES ( NEW BIKE) . TOOK A SHORT 250 MILE TRIP UP ON Ca. 49 AND BACK HOME . I DID NOTICE A DIFFERENCE. RIDE SAFE ! DJH

Blue Rebel
08-12-2008, 09:36 PM
Changed using Kawasaki oil, 20w50 Petroleum. Am thinking to change to the Mobile1 Synthetic 15w50, in the next 1,500 miles. I'm not happy with the feel of the shifting or the sound of the pistons.