Will a Voyager run with the big hogs?

[Toku57]

Another local dealer had a non-ABS Voyager, so I thought I'd try it out to compare with the ABS one I rode a few weeks back. This real short test ride was led by a sales guy on a Harley bagger (I'm not an H-D expert so am unsure of model and year). There were a few occasions where under hard acceleration it seemed the Voyager struggled to keep pace with the Harley, though perhaps that could be attributed to my not being familiar enough with a Voyager to get the most out of it.

Assuming many if not most of you ride with folks on H-Ds and others in the 900 lb. bagger/touring segment, do you find it's capable of keeping up? I've seen comments about Ivanizing that suggest "yes" when that's done, but was also wondering about Voyagers in stock form. I'm pretty certain this was a non-Ivanized bike since it seemed kinda rough and pokey at low rpm.

By the way, riding the non-ABS model confirmed I want the ABS model. Braking on the ABS model just seemed much more settled with less reliance on engine braking for me at least.

[mbarr10]

ABS with K-act is even better. Any braking is automatic on front and back at the same time. I did not like it at first, but now I have gotten lazy and rarely use the foot peddle.

Ivan will smooth it out but only 2-3 HP added. An HD 103 it will toast. The new 104s You can hold your own after that you can just about keep up. But that is just with the guys I ride with. Your experience may vary. If you go Big Air Kit, you will gain the most power.

[Toku57]

ABS with K-act is even better. Any braking is automatic on front and back at the same time. I did not like it at first, but now I have gotten lazy and rarely use the foot peddle.

Ivan will smooth it out but only 2-3 HP added. An HD 103 it will toast. The new 104s You can hold your own after that you can just about keep up. But that is just with the guys I ride with. Your experience may vary. If you go Big Air Kit, you will gain the most power.

Yes, the K-ACT system was on the first one I tested a few weeks back and it is awesome. I'll probably just go with a K&N filter or something that I can keep the stock airbox since I like the looks and may find a big air kit too noisy for my tastes. Good to know Voyagers can hold their own though, and with that tall gearing I shouldn't expect super acceleration anyway. But man, that cushy ride will really make me happy.

[Chuck A.]

With the reflash and the V&H slip-ons, my '15 is a whole new bike. With the stock HD's I ride with, I have no problems at all running with them and I'm 350 lbs. The upgrade opened my engine up to a whole new world.

The K-ACT is the bomb. You definitely don't want to apply to hard. Stopping power at it's best!

[BonVoyager]

Just to clarify, K-ACT is ONLY available with ABS. Your only options are non-ABS or ABS/K-ACT, that’s all.

Also, don’t forget that 5th and 6th are both overdrive gears. In stock form those two gears are a little picky about what speed you are going to use them. Once Ivanized they are a LOT more lenient!

The Voyager has plenty of power. I only had the ECU reprogrammed, I’m keeping stock intake and stock pipes and I’m more than happy with it. The biggest improvement comes from doing ECU, intake and pipes, that’s where you see the MOST gain.

I’m more curious why you think the Voyager is somehow inferior to a Harley and why you feel the need to “keep up with the big dogs”?

[denny 606]

With the reflash and the V&H slip-ons, my '15 is a whole new bike. With the stock HD's I ride with, I have no problems at all running with them and I'm 350 lbs. The upgrade opened my engine up to a whole new world.

The K-ACT is the bomb. You definitely don't want to apply to hard. Stopping power at it's best!

Does this mean I have to get a bigger bike now?:???:

[MAS Tequila]

Not sure what a 104 is.

Be careful about the 103 comment, my 2016 FLHP will flat out smoke a 1700 Voyager/Vaquero.



An HD 103 it will toast. The new 104s You can hold your own after that you can just about keep up. But that is just with the guys I ride with. Your experience may vary. If you go Big Air Kit, you will gain the most power.

[Chuck A.]

Sounds like a challenge to me. Maggie Valley sometime again this year?:P

[Chuck A.]

Does this mean I have to get a bigger bike now?:???:

I rode my 1500 for a while Sunday evening. I don't know if a can bring myself to selling it. With the RDL seat and the F&S backrest, it sits better than any chair I have in the house. I love that thang. I like the 1700 but it is cut so different, still feels like I"m riding someone elses bike. And it is heavy? This titanium and pvc knees feel it.

[Toku57]

Just to clarify, K-ACT is ONLY available with ABS. Your only options are non-ABS or ABS/K-ACT, that’s all.

Also, don’t forget that 5th and 6th are both overdrive gears. In stock form those two gears are a little picky about what speed you are going to use them. Once Ivanized they are a LOT more lenient!

The Voyager has plenty of power. I only had the ECU reprogrammed, I’m keeping stock intake and stock pipes and I’m more than happy with it. The biggest improvement comes from doing ECU, intake and pipes, that’s where you see the MOST gain.

I’m more curious why you think the Voyager is somehow inferior to a Harley and why you feel the need to “keep up with the big dogs”?

Glad to hear Ivanizing helps make those tall 5th and 6th gears more useful. I just forgot to mention K-ACT in my initial post, but know there's no ABS w/o K-ACT. Also I never meant to imply Voyagers are inferior to H-Ds, and said "big hogs" as in the slang term for H-Ds and specifically their bagger and full dress tourers. I was just wondering how the Voyager did performance-wise with other bikes in its class.

[Toku57]

With the reflash and the V&H slip-ons, my '15 is a whole new bike. With the stock HD's I ride with, I have no problems at all running with them and I'm 350 lbs. The upgrade opened my engine up to a whole new world.

The K-ACT is the bomb. You definitely don't want to apply to hard. Stopping power at it's best!

Awesome! I might add the V&H at some point too.

[redjay]

Yes, the K-ACT system was on the first one I tested a few weeks back and it is awesome. I'll probably just go with a K&N filter or something that I can keep the stock airbox since I like the looks and may find a big air kit too noisy for my tastes. Good to know Voyagers can hold their own though, and with that tall gearing I shouldn't expect super acceleration anyway. But man, that cushy ride will really make me happy.

You could get Chucksters air intake. It retains the stock cover.
I had one on my Voyager. It uses a round K&N filter.
It is a little noisier than the stock set up but your bike will get all the air it needs.

[mbarr10]

Not sure what a 104 is.

I meant the 107, My mistake. But The speeds were just my first hand experiences and not to be taken as fact.

But that is just with the guys I ride with. Your experience may vary.

[MAS Tequila]

Sounds like a challenge to me. Maggie Valley sometime again this year?:P

May 15-20, I'll be across the street from where we stayed last fall.

Think about something Chuck, The FLHP is the Police bike.

It's not the run of the mill 103, this thing is damn fast.

It surprised me the first time I tried running it out and had a hard time staying in the saddle.

I NEED a backrest!

But come on over in May and bring that KY buddy of yours.

John is coming and another old friend from Charlotte is coming.

Oh, and a bunch of other Vulcan riders will be there too.

Oh Hell, everyone is invited.

[MAS Tequila]

I rode my 1500 for a while Sunday evening. I don't know if a can bring myself to selling it. With the RDL seat and the F&S backrest, it sits better than any chair I have in the house. I love that thang. I like the 1700 but it is cut so different, still feels like I"m riding someone elses bike. And it is heavy? This titanium and pvc knees feel it.

My MeanStreak will be gone in about 2 weeks, it sold to the first person who looked at it.

Ride that 1700 some more.

I took the Meanie out to top off the tank, and it just doesn't feel the same anymore.

[denny 606]

May 15-20, I'll be across the street from where we stayed last fall.

Think about something Chuck, The FLHP is the Police bike.

It's not the run of the mill 103, this thing is damn fast.

It surprised me the first time I tried running it out and had a hard time staying in the saddle.

I NEED a backrest!

But come on over in May and bring that KY buddy of yours.

John is coming and another old friend from Charlotte is coming.

Oh, and a bunch of other Vulcan riders will be there too.

Oh Hell, everyone is invited.
I’ve missed something. When did you get the HD. I’m going to have to pay closer attention! May ain’t out of the question yet. I’m your Huckleberry :lmao:

[DragonLady58]

Another local dealer had a non-ABS Voyager, so I thought I'd try it out to compare with the ABS one I rode a few weeks back. This real short test ride was led by a sales guy on a Harley bagger (I'm not an H-D expert so am unsure of model and year). There were a few occasions where under hard acceleration it seemed the Voyager struggled to keep pace with the Harley, though perhaps that could be attributed to my not being familiar enough with a Voyager to get the most out of it.

Assuming many if not most of you ride with folks on H-Ds and others in the 900 lb. bagger/touring segment, do you find it's capable of keeping up? I've seen comments about Ivanizing that suggest "yes" when that's done, but was also wondering about Voyagers in stock form. I'm pretty certain this was a non-Ivanized bike since it seemed kinda rough and pokey at low rpm.

By the way, riding the non-ABS model confirmed I want the ABS model. Braking on the ABS model just seemed much more settled with less reliance on engine braking for me at least.
Once Ivan-ized, a Chucksters Air cleaner or any low restriction air intake, and open it up with a good flowing exhaust, yes-sir-eee, she'll run with the Hogs!
Most of the H-Ds, if setup correctly, are pretty damn fast. You can run with them, maybe not past them.
Guy with a 2010 StreetGlide, with a 110"+ S&S way pretty pissed he couldn't just up and walk way from me. Kept up I did, didn't pass him, didn't try to. At 100 mph on a bagger, your pushing against a big ole wind sail on the front....
I tore him a new one up until about 65-75, then he went around me, but I was 20 ft. off his ass....
BUT, my engine is heavily modified for such things....you can legally only go so fast....
My Thunder 1600 will run all day/ all night at 100, but why would I want to. I want all the power for passing, on the interstate, fully loaded, pulling a trailer. Its saved my bacon on more than one occassion....

A stock Voyager against a big inch H-D, you'll be close, they will be up the road some....
80-96 cubes, you be ok. 96-103s maybe, 103s on up, if tuned, no.....for the same rpm, they can just pull the taller gearing more easily.

[ponch]

Not sure what a 104 is.

Be careful about the 103 comment, my 2016 FLHP will flat out smoke a 1700 Voyager/Vaquero.

And my RT will smoke that...

[MAS Tequila]

And my RT will smoke that...

Damn Skippy it will.

[Toku57]

Once Ivan-ized, a Chucksters Air cleaner or any low restriction air intake, and open it up with a good flowing exhaust, yes-sir-eee, she'll run with the Hogs!
Most of the H-Ds, if setup correctly, are pretty damn fast. You can run with them, maybe not past them.
Guy with a 2010 StreetGlide, with a 110"+ S&S way pretty pissed he couldn't just up and walk way from me. Kept up I did, didn't pass him, didn't try to. At 100 mph on a bagger, your pushing against a big ole wind sail on the front....
I tore him a new one up until about 65-75, then he went around me, but I was 20 ft. off his ass....
BUT, my engine is heavily modified for such things....you can legally only go so fast....
My Thunder 1600 will run all day/ all night at 100, but why would I want to. I want all the power for passing, on the interstate, fully loaded, pulling a trailer. Its saved my bacon on more than one occassion....

A stock Voyager against a big inch H-D, you'll be close, they will be up the road some....
80-96 cubes, you be ok. 96-103s maybe, 103s on up, if tuned, no.....for the same rpm, they can just pull the taller gearing more easily.

Thanks DL - that's an awesome summary of what to expect!

[blowndodge]

And my RT will smoke that...

So will my 106.

[Chuck A.]

.................Ride that 1700 some more............

I'm hoping the folks at RDL can give me the 'fit in the seat' I want. An hour and I'm off for a few minutes. the 1500 I'm good all day.

As far as May, I'm still snowed under at work. Lucky to get a day off.

Back to the 1700 Voyager, I think Kawasaki did their homework fairly well. Took mine to the parts store tonight and had two women come over and tell me how pretty it is. The K-act is sweet and with the upgrade smoothing the performance of the engine, it is a keeper. I ride the curving back roads in the hills around home and it handles great. The radio and cruise buttons will stretch your thumps out to use them but that means they are not too crowded. Windshield is taller than I normally like but if you have a passenger they will like it. My factory lights at night show the roadway really good for me. Dash lights/gauges are bright and clear, day or night. I really like the fan at the rear cylinder to push the heat from the exhaust pipe to the bottom of the engine. Takes a lot of heat off your leg.

[recumbentbob]

So will my 106.My 106 will to.

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[cactusjack]

An HD 103 it will toast. The new 104s You can hold your own after that you can just about keep up.

Whoa...not so sure about that. My buddy had a '11 Voyager and my 103 would leave it in the dust. He couldn't keep up with me getting on the on-ramp.

Harley doesn't make a "104". They make a 107 and a 110 CVO. Oh, and my buddy got rid of his Voyager and bought an Ultra Limited :D :D. Now he can keep up, even when he's riding two-up.

[Toku57]

I'm hoping the folks at RDL can give me the 'fit in the seat' I want. An hour and I'm off for a few minutes. the 1500 I'm good all day.

As far as May, I'm still snowed under at work. Lucky to get a day off.

Back to the 1700 Voyager, I think Kawasaki did their homework fairly well. Took mine to the parts store tonight and had two women come over and tell me how pretty it is. The K-act is sweet and with the upgrade smoothing the performance of the engine, it is a keeper. I ride the curving back roads in the hills around home and it handles great. The radio and cruise buttons will stretch your thumps out to use them but that means they are not too crowded. Windshield is taller than I normally like but if you have a passenger they will like it. My factory lights at night show the roadway really good for me. Dash lights/gauges are bright and clear, day or night. I really like the fan at the rear cylinder to push the heat from the exhaust pipe to the bottom of the engine. Takes a lot of heat off your leg.

You hit on a lot of the Voyager's selling points for me. IMO, it's the best looking touring bike and in addition to the things you listed, I love the lights on the back of the top case. They look sharp and help make Voyagers one of the most visible bikes out there.

[Chuck A.]

I swopped bikes with a friend 2 weeks ago for a 35 mile stint on a ride with a group. He's got a 2011 HD dresser with all the bells and whistles. I wasn't impressed at all with it. Didn't feel to have any more power than my 1700. Sat more cramped up toward the handle bars and the floor board were closer toward the seat which cramped my legs with these knee replacements. Trans didn't shift as smooth as the Voyager. The brakes on it don't hold a candle to the Kawasaki K-ACT system, period. Unless you have ridden a bike with the K-ACT on it, you are missing out. It was 80+F that day and at the traffic lights the HD was putting heat on the legs. Makes me wonder if thats why HD owners wear chaps here in the Summer heat. My 2015 Voyager has the radiator and fan sealed around the front of the engine pushing the radiator heat under the engine and the rear cylinder having the ducted fan to push the heat from the rear cylinder and exhaust down under the bike away from your legs and seating area. Both felt about the same in the curves on the side roads. I won't knock his bike but I wouldn't pay the price to own it either. He had more good to say about the Voyager than I did about the HD. But then again, he is one to pay $60 for a tee shirt that just says Harley Davidson. Then the coat, the bandana, the gloves, the boots..................

11000 miles and the HD trans has got to be pulled for a leaking seal. 7 hours labor they said. Would you like an oil change to?, they said. I laughed till I darn near pee'd my pants. I asked him if he could trade in some of his decorative clothing for the labor!

[Chuck A.]

My question is how many here have taken their bikes to a drag strip and raced it against all of these other bikes? A lot of folks have out ran a lot of folks on here by keyboard. :P

[Chuck A.]

Once Ivan-ized..........A stock Voyager against a big inch H-D, you'll be close, they will be up the road some....
80-96 cubes, you be ok. 96-103s maybe, 103s on up, if tuned............


I can tell you that my Ivanized Voyager with V&H slip-ons has seen 128 on the OD and was still climbing. I don't know how right the OD is at that speed but from 40 mph to that 128 didn't take far at all. Unless one has ridden the 1700 with upgrade it would just be hear say. Unreal the change in the performance the reflash makes.:tup: Stock HD's don't worry me at all. I have found that most will gun it while you least expect it just to get a jump on you. But I didn't plan on drag races mine when I bought though.:wave:

[DragonLady58]

My question is how many here have taken their bikes to a drag strip and raced it against all of these other bikes? A lot of folks have out ran a lot of folks on here by keyboard. :P
What, on a Voyager, Vaquero, or Nomad? I have, but mines not a Voyager 1700, but I've worked on them.
I had my engine dyno tuned in Sturgis in 2016 at the DynaTech tent. Rode back home getting 35 mpg, then took it to the strip 2 weeks later.
I smoked a 80 Wideglide and a 83 Electra Glide. I then got smoked by a turbo'ed BMW, a Kawasaki Z1000 and Hayabusa, fastest run in the 12's.
Drag guy from the Harley dealership I wrenched at showed up, got on my bike, started running faster and better times each run....finally ran in the 11's.
After his 5 runs, came up against a supercharged total custom StreetGlide. The guy missed a shift, the Monad came out on top. After the pits, changing some air pressure in the tires, adding some racing fuel. Dude got back in line, against the same Harley that missed a gear. That Harley ran almost a whole second faster than the Monad!
Mine got to the high 11's. His Harley ran 10.55, which was a totally custom Harley bagger, full air suspension, big 26" front wheel,etc. He's got about $28,000 in his. I've put about $8500 in the Monad....

[Toku57]

Thanks all. You've convinced me a well-sorted Voyager can hold it's own with its touring/dresser peers in normal riding situations, which is all I care about. And in my area they stand out from the crowd because there aren't many around. Plus style-wise, they strike a nice balance for me between frumpy and futuristic. Key style elements for me are the dash, tour pack with the LED, and the fact there isn't a bad color scheme.

And most importantly, I love the ride. They fit me perfectly, offer great wind protection - e.g. I won't need earplugs anymore - shift beautifully, brake better than anything I've ridden (K-ACT version anyway), and that planted, cushy ride is heavenly.

[waterman]

Not sure what a 104 is.

Be careful about the 103 comment, my 2016 FLHP will flat out smoke a 1700 Voyager/Vaquero.

Having test rode a Harley 103, 110 and the new 107, Voyager, Victory CCT, and Indian Roadmaster over a year ago I will state that the Voyager was the least impressive of the bunch followed by the 103 Harley. The 110 and 107 Harley are close but I think the 107 would out do the 110. The Victory and Indian were in the same range as the 107. My stock 1600 would keep up with the Voyager.

[Chuck A.]

Did the Voyager you rode have the reflash? The factory programming just sucks big time. Cuts the power to,,,,, well, pitifull is the word I was hunting.

[blowndodge]

I'm glad my 106 needs no such modifications. in 2013 I rode from southern cal to Colorado followed by a girl riding a new Voyager. From St. George Ut to highway 70 the speed limit was 80mph. I was fully loaded with a passenger. When we pulled over for gas she asked me why I was racing up the grade. I said I wasn't speeding but dong the limit 80. I had no idea we were even climbing a grade. She asked me if I was in 5th or 6th. She told me she had to downshift many times to keep us in sight! I was surprised. Of course there is another 20/20 hptq waiting in my 106 if I wanted a reflash with pipes and open air. I just don't see the need for it.

[waterman]

Did the Voyager you rode have the reflash? The factory programming just sucks big time. Cuts the power to,,,,, well, pitifull is the word I was hunting.

It was a stock Voyager. I've seen other motorcycles and what upgrades do. Unless you are doing something major in the engine, I doubt that it would keep up with the CCT, Harley M8 or Indian.

[Toku57]

Frankly, I'm kinda over riding much with groups so it wouldn't matter to me if a Voyager is as fast as this or that. For a while I was part of a Meetup group that would ride to various BBQ joints all over the area, and that was fun. But they morphed into a pseudo biker club who's main purpose was to ride to bars.

As long as an Ivanized Voyager can safely merge into highway traffic, pass other vehicles reasonably easy, and go long distances at 80-85 without working too hard that'll be fine.

[mbarr10]

Frankly, I'm kinda over riding much with groups so it wouldn't matter to me if a Voyager is as fast as this or that. For a while I was part of a Meetup group that would ride to various BBQ joints all over the area, and that was fun. But they morphed into a pseudo biker club who's main purpose was to ride to bars.

As long as an Ivanized Voyager can safely merge into highway traffic, pass other vehicles reasonably easy, and go long distances at 80-85 without working too hard that'll be fine.


I'm Riding right along side of you on this one.

[BonVoyager]

As long as an Ivanized Voyager can safely merge into highway traffic, pass other vehicles reasonably easy, and go long distances at 80-85 without working too hard that'll be fine.

A non-Ivanized Voyager does that already quite easily.

Don’t be mistaken, the point of Ivanizing these bikes isn’t to make them some how just good enough to ride. The point of it is to take an already great bike and make it even better by fixing all the crap that is caused by the EPA when they make ALL manufacturers choke down the engines of their machines to get the best emissions and fuel economy and it also fixes a few issues that may or not be related to that, like the jerky throttle issue.

[schoeney]

Hahaha. This thread cracks me up.

It is fun to see the old dogs in the mix.

This is fun campfire talk. You old farts sound like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau arguing over Ann Margaret. ...and if you just envisioned Ann Margaret in her hey day (way before the GOM movie) you really are an old fart. Mine's bigger, mine's faster, mine's better, hilarious.:lol:

I can get by calling you old farts because I am one too. It has been 10 years since I became KawaNow member#659. This thread brings back great memories.

Who would have thought Ponch would be touting a BMW, CJ defending his apparel supplier, BD gushing about the Bronze Bomber and Joel (Waterman) supporting.....well...both bikes he has owned. Unpredictable. :D

Continue on gents, I am looking forward to the next time we are sitting around the campfire, add a little alcohol and all of our bikes
will be faster than a 2003 Dodge Tomahawk.

I will make sure I get both my Hondas turbocharged so I can keep up with you guys.:cheers:

[Toku57]

A non-Ivanized Voyager does that already quite easily.

Don’t be mistaken, the point of Ivanizing these bikes isn’t to make them some how just good enough to ride. The point of it is to take an already great bike and make it even better by fixing all the crap that is caused by the EPA when they make ALL manufacturers choke down the engines of their machines to get the best emissions and fuel economy and it also fixes a few issues that may or not be related to that, like the jerky throttle issue.

Well put. I think they're already a great bike in stock trim and probably the best value in their class IMO, but am happy there are services like Ivan's and other performance enhancements available for them for those who want a little more juice.

[mbarr10]

This is fun campfire talk. You old farts sound like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau arguing over Ann Margaret. ...and if you just envisioned Ann Margaret in her hey day (way before the GOM movie) you really are an old fart. Mine's bigger, mine's faster, mine's better, hilarious.:lol:


I was thinking "Barberella" =Jane Fonda. Oh Crap I'm old too

[Toku57]

...You old farts sound like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau arguing over Ann Margaret. ...and if you just envisioned Ann Margaret in her hey day (way before the GOM movie) you really are an old fart...

As in "Viva Las Vegas" Ann Margaret baby, YEAH!

[waterman]

Hahaha. This thread cracks me up.

It is fun to see the old dogs in the mix.

This is fun campfire talk. You old farts sound like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau arguing over Ann Margaret. ...and if you just envisioned Ann Margaret in her hey day (way before the GOM movie) you really are an old fart. Mine's bigger, mine's faster, mine's better, hilarious.:lol:

I can get by calling you old farts because I am one too. It has been 10 years since I became KawaNow member#659. This thread brings back great memories.

Who would have thought Ponch would be touting a BMW, CJ defending his apparel supplier, BD gushing about the Bronze Bomber and Joel (Waterman) supporting.....well...both bikes he has owned. Unpredictable. :D

Continue on gents, I am looking forward to the next time we are sitting around the campfire, add a little alcohol and all of our bikes
will be faster than a 2003 Dodge Tomahawk.

I will make sure I get both my Hondas turbocharged so I can keep up with you guys.:cheers:

Can't wait to see the Goldwing on the trailer in Ouray. 🤣 we know you'll have a full load of beer on the pickup. I'll be bringing the pie.

[ponch]

Hahaha. This thread cracks me up.

It is fun to see the old dogs in the mix.

This is fun campfire talk. You old farts sound like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau arguing over Ann Margaret. ...and if you just envisioned Ann Margaret in her hey day (way before the GOM movie) you really are an old fart. Mine's bigger, mine's faster, mine's better, hilarious.:lol:

I can get by calling you old farts because I am one too. It has been 10 years since I became KawaNow member#659. This thread brings back great memories.

Who would have thought Ponch would be touting a BMW, CJ defending his apparel supplier, BD gushing about the Bronze Bomber and Joel (Waterman) supporting.....well...both bikes he has owned. Unpredictable. :D

Continue on gents, I am looking forward to the next time we are sitting around the campfire, add a little alcohol and all of our bikes
will be faster than a 2003 Dodge Tomahawk.

I will make sure I get both my Hondas turbocharged so I can keep up with you guys.:cheers:

Some day I'll slow down enough mentally to get something different. The HD certainly would be easier to live with. Well, nearly anything would except a Ducati.

[schoeney]

Joel... I trailer my bike one time and you brand me for life😣

No trailer this year....😁

Jim.. nice hearing from you. How many miles on the Beamer now? I have 57,000 on the ST. Still running like a champ.

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[waterman]

8Joel... I trailer my bike one time and you brand me for life��

No trailer this year....��

Jim.. nice hearing from you. How many miles on the Beamer now? I have 57,000 on the ST. Still running like a champ.

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Once a trailer queen always a trailer queen Greg.�� I'm going have to find you the patch. WHORE. We Haul Our Rides Everywhere.

But with all of those cushy seats you put on your bike it should be easy riding

[Demolition Man]

Sorry, I give a shit about any Harley. If I would be concerned about riding with them, get one, but not for me - never ever ! Perhaps a Roadmaster in a few years - they don't sell the voyager anymore in Germany. By the way, mine is doing 110 mph in 5th gear (top speed will be reached only in 5th gear as manual stated) without any problems on the German autobahn. Stock bike, only K&N Airfilter and last baffle drilled out.

Cu,
Sven

[ponch]

Joel... I trailer my bike one time and you brand me for life😣

No trailer this year....😁

Jim.. nice hearing from you. How many miles on the Beamer now? I have 57,000 on the ST. Still running like a champ.

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I’ve been really bad about riding. After the pulleys on the throttle bodies broke, I took the car to work and riding became a rarity. The headlight connectors have deteriorated and need replacement. Maybe I’ll do that today. I won’t ride it without low beams. I bought some led head lights to replace them. Bad thing is I have to take the whole nacelle off the bike. I really want to see how 115lbs less affects the performance.


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[schoeney]

I’ve been really bad about riding. After the pulleys on the throttle bodies broke, I took the car to work and riding became a rarity. The headlight connectors have deteriorated and need replacement. Maybe I’ll do that today. I won’t ride it without low beams. I bought some led head lights to replace them. Bad thing is I have to take the whole nacelle off the bike. I really want to see how 115lbs less affects the performance.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProNot sure what you mean by 115 pounds less?



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[ponch]

Not sure what you mean by 115 pounds less?



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As of today, I’ve lost 116lbs since June 19.


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[cactusjack]

Frankly, I'm kinda over riding much with groups so it wouldn't matter to me if a Voyager is as fast as this or that. For a while I was part of a Meetup group that would ride to various BBQ joints all over the area, and that was fun. But they morphed into a pseudo biker club who's main purpose was to ride to bars.

As long as an Ivanized Voyager can safely merge into highway traffic, pass other vehicles reasonably easy, and go long distances at 80-85 without working too hard that'll be fine.

Yep, me too. Riding in large groups is dangerous and unpredictable. I don't care to place my destiny in the hands of others. I used to ride with a meetup group and after a few close calls and some real tragedies (including deaths and dismemberments), I quit. I'll ride with a few buddies from work or with the Various Bagger crew, but otherwise I prefer solo.

[twowheeladdict]

Another local dealer had a non-ABS Voyager, so I thought I'd try it out to compare with the ABS one I rode a few weeks back. This real short test ride was led by a sales guy on a Harley bagger (I'm not an H-D expert so am unsure of model and year). There were a few occasions where under hard acceleration it seemed the Voyager struggled to keep pace with the Harley, though perhaps that could be attributed to my not being familiar enough with a Voyager to get the most out of it.

Assuming many if not most of you ride with folks on H-Ds and others in the 900 lb. bagger/touring segment, do you find it's capable of keeping up? I've seen comments about Ivanizing that suggest "yes" when that's done, but was also wondering about Voyagers in stock form. I'm pretty certain this was a non-Ivanized bike since it seemed kinda rough and pokey at low rpm.

By the way, riding the non-ABS model confirmed I want the ABS model. Braking on the ABS model just seemed much more settled with less reliance on engine braking for me at least.

The Voyager accelerates hard if you let it rev, but it runs out of steam at 80. I couldn't keep up with a 103 touring Harley back in 2011.

Then I bought my 103 road glide ultra. It pulls much harder than the Voyager and is much smoother pulling hills at lower RPMs. The Voyager is happier when you stay above 3000 RPMs.

I put 60,000 miles on my Voyager.

[Loafer]

I believe that if you want to run with the "Big Hogs", you need a "Big Hog".

[mbarr10]

It's not like your on a Z125 compared to the HDs, So what if they are faster you will not be far behind. Stop signs , stop lights and traffic equal out the equation anyway. Have fun and BE SAFE. Cost of ownership and maintenance more than balances the other parts of equation. IMHO

[Toku57]

It's not like your on a Z125 compared to the HDs, So what if they are faster you will not be far behind. Stop signs , stop lights and traffic equal out the equation anyway. Have fun and BE SAFE. Cost of ownership and maintenance more than balances the other parts of equation. IMHO

Righto - and I just called my insurance to get an idea of what coverage similar to what I have now would be and it'd be just a little bit more than my Bandit. So yeah, cost of ownership seems reasonable.

[smokier]

As of today, I’ve lost 116lbs since June 19.



Congratulations! :cheers::tup:

[Grizz]

All depends on how fast YOU want to ride. Rode side by side with my Brother from Arkansas to North Carolina and back...07 1600 classic.

[schoeney]

All depends on how fast YOU want to ride. Rode side by side with my Brother from Arkansas to North Carolina and back...07 1600 classic.Hey Grizz

How have you been? How is the Wing treating you?

You are right, it all depends on how fast you want to ride.

In my opinion the real issue with having more power is more in merging and passing. All these bikes will cruise well at 5/10 over the speed limit. More power = safer.

On a side note I got pulled over in my car yesterday for doing 73 in a 55 and driving continuously in the left lane. I kind of chuckled because there was nobody else on the highway and I was speeding so why wouldn't I be in the fast lane 😅😅.

He was a very nice officer, ran my driver's license and let me go with a warning. Do you think I should have told him that was my fourth warning this month😎







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[schoeney]

I had a suspicion that's what you meant. That is great news Jim. Congratulations!

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[Demolition Man]

On a side note I got pulled over in my car yesterday for doing 73 in a 55 and driving continuously in the left lane. I kind of chuckled because there was nobody else on the highway and I was speeding so why wouldn't I be in the fast lane 😅😅.



:wave: Wow, soooo fast 73mph = 118 Kph - Did you had the parking brake engaged ? :lmao:

We do that on nearly every country road. On the german autobahn, at 200mph you have no friends ! :bird:


Sorry, couldnt resist !


Cu,
Sven

[schoeney]

I would love to ride the Autobahn.

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[Demolition Man]

I would love to ride the Autobahn.

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Get on a plane to germany, rent a bike (or car) and DO IT !

You only live once !



Cu,
Sven