Guys I'm struggling here

[tkd]

Hola everyone.

Good news, I offically passed my MSF course today and so did my wife. Score was not the best--in fact, I nearly failed, which really upsets me since all throughout the class, I was one of the top riders according to the instructor. Even the instructor told me I was way better than my score indicated. No clue why I did so poorly, but any way I passed (as an example, was doing emergency stops in a distance of 15-17 feet all day, did 25 on my test and completely forgot the front brake.

Now here's my dilemma, I took the bike to the class this morning and rode the little 250 nighthawk all day. When I got back on the Nomad, I couldn't hardly manage it. I have to admit I really didn't enjoy my ride at all. The bike was just uncomforatable and not fun.

I know I was tired, but the bike scared the hell out of me. I honestly think the Nomad is too much bike for me. I really enjoyed having something smaller and more nimble to ride. Maybe it's bad circumstances or timing or who knows, but I didn't enjoy the Nomad.

Now, the worst part. I felt no joy in passing the course and getting the endorsement. Honestly it was totally anti-climatic. Riding was not fun at all. This weekend of spending time learning and getting better was a good thing for me. I definitely improved my riding, but it also really put things in perspective. I'm not 100% sure, but I think there is a good chance that I'm not going to be riding any more. Right now, I am 70/30 towards getting rid of the bike and probably not replacing it.

I really appreciate everything everyone has done in my short time that I have been on the boards. You are great bunch--no question about it.

Not sure what's next

[cactusjack]

Gosh. Well, this is a decision you're going to have to make. I hate to see anyone give up riding, but if it isn't your cup of tea, then maybe that's the best thing to do. Not everybody likes the feel of riding a motorcycle. I personally don't like bowling. Different strokes, you know. Are you worried about the risks involved in riding? Is it because the Nomad intimidates you in some way? Just tossing out thoughts here. I'd hope you'd give this decision the thought it deserves and not make a spur-of-the-moment decision you may regret later.

No matter what you decide, best wishes in making your decision.

[beezer]

How did your wife do? Maybe she could ride the Nomad and you can get a Rebel.

[coacha]

Our instructor told us that there was a possibility that after we were done with the course some of us, even if we passed, may chose to give up riding...it is just a fact after finding out all the in's and out's of riding and its hazards and complexities. He said that if we had doubts that it was best that we park the bike and reevaluate our situation.

I know when I first started riding my Nomad, it was intimidating because of its size and weight. But after 7 months, I enjoy it immensely and have a very healthy respect for the machine and what it can do and what can happen on it.

Hope you take your time and make the proper decision for you tkd.

[ringadingh]

At least you seem honest enough with yourself to realize that riding may not be for you. If its just the size and weight of the Nomad that intimidates you, Im sure you would get used to it in time, but it is a large bike to be starting on in my opinion. If your not confident in your ability's don't risk hurting yourself, but don't give up to soon if it is something you feel you enjoy.

[davidjones1]

thats a tuff one, but as cj said this is your call, wait and find that great morning to get up and ride to someplace that takes your breath away is the thing that I love the best, I have had days like you spoke of where you just don't feel as comfortable as you think you should and on some of those days I just put it back in the barn and wait for the next one to come along. also as said: it might not be your cup of tea, good luck.
ride safe.

[beezer]

+1

[nomad]

the nomad is a big bike, for sure. prior to getting my nomad...all i had to ride was 2 kawasaki kz's. one a 900 and the other a1000. the difference between the bikes is night and day, its like i had to learn to ride all over again, so i understand your position. whatever you decide, good luck. give it a few days and a few more rides before you commit. see how you feel then.

[tkd]

After being on a more manueverable bike and then jumping on the Nomad I was scared of it, plain and simple. I felt in total control on the little bike and completely at the mercy of the Nomad. I honestly don't know if it's riding, riding the Nomad, or being exhausted. My assessment and perception of risk has not changed, actually, I feel better as I know my skills are now better. I have no idea why, but I just felt like I had no control on the big bike, fast, slow, straight, cornering, stopping or going.

Wife got the same score so the idea of giving her the bike is probably not a good idea as I doubt she will even go to get her new license with the endorsment. I am really confused right now.

[coacha]

I know I was exhausted after I got done with my class and had similar feelings when I took my Nomad for a ride that afternoon: it was so heavy, didn't maneuver as well, too much power. Remember, you are going from something that weighed maybe 300 with 250 CC's to something that is over 700 with 1600 CC's and is about 1.5 times as long.

[misunderstood]

the nomad is a big bike, for sure. prior to getting my nomad...all i had to ride was 2 kawasaki kz's. one a 900 and the other a1000. the difference between the bikes is night and day, its like i had to learn to ride all over again, so i understand your position. whatever you decide, good luck. give it a few days and a few more rides before you commit. see how you feel then.

+1, perhaps you just need to stay within your comfort level until you're ready to step up to a bigger bike. After all you said you enjoyed the nimbleness riding the 250. Give it a chance before you throw in the towel or you'll always wonder. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

[flavor]

If you like riding the smaller bike then the fact is you like riding. You can't get on a Nomad and expect to feel comfortable right away. It's one of the biggest bikes out there.

I never owned a bike with floorboards before my Nomad and have been riding since the 70's. Even though I've had a full dresser, it took me a couple of thousand miles to feel comfortable.

Taht being said, you have to make a logical decision that's right for you.

[beezer]

I was fryed after that last day as I remember as well. Maybe a smaller bike for around town and the Nomad for bigger roads and trips with your wife as your confidence/ experience level rises so that you are both safe on it. You have alot of cash tied up in your beautiful bike. You would probably take a loss on it.

There are also days when you shouldn't ride at all which are when you're feeling too good or too bad. Maybe you're just tired from the exercises they put you through today and after a good night's rest you'll feel better about it.

[unwind2]

Well...when I took the MSF course 7 years ago. I came home to a 500 cc bike.....rode it for 6-7 months, then moved up to an 1100 cc....road that for 4-5 yrs before moving up to the Nomad. Got the Nomad for the comfort for long distance riding. It took me a lot longer to feel comfortable on the Nomad than previous bikes. But once I did....well.....I love my Nomad.

Guess it's possible sometimes some bikes just never feel right - or we talk ourselves into thinking this bike is too much for us. I have ridden my husband's Goldwing a little at his insistence before I got the Nomad (he was trying to talk me into getting a Goldwing....cause he loves the feel and handling of it) but I still don't. Even after getting the Nomad and getting on his wing a couple of times...it's just not for me and I really think part of it is I still let the darn thing intimidate me doesn't weigh that much more than the Nomad but higher seat height, different riding position.

Why not take a little time and evaluate. One thing for sure going right home and jumping on the Nomad after driving the 250cc all weekend is going to make the Nomad feel real heavy.
Is this your first bike? Perhaps if your wife still want to ride ya'll could get an 1100 for the two you to ride a bit and then get back on the Nomad after a while. Just thinking. I also have an 1100 cc that I ride around local (or did - something is wrong with it - got to trailer the darn thing to the dealer - it kapoted on me the other day).

I just think you should not do anything rash - like sell the bike in the next few weeks....Good Luck to You.

Modified again to add one more thing. You passed the MSF don't worry about not doing as well on the test as you did all day. Some folks have test anxiety. ;)

I've been riding for 30+ years, but the Nomad weighs 200 lbs more than my previous bike. It took me a little while to get the feel of the thing, and a couple weeks of daily rides before I felt acceptably comfortable with it. Now, after 5 years with this bike, it's an old friend and I feel perfectly at ease on it. Hopefully, your story will be the same if you put your mind to it and give it the necessary time.

If you eventually find out it's noy for you, well that's OK too. Look, I can't ice skate worth a dang. Tried many times and it was just not for me. It's strange because I can roller skate fairly well, and I was pretty good on a skateboard too. But ice skating and I were just not made for each other. Lots of folks find this out about motorcycles as well. You may feel disappointed, but there's no need to feel ashamed or defeated.

I know guys that are dirt riders and sportbike riders that have been riding those lightweight bikes for decades, and they wouldn't touch a Nomad. They could just never get comfortable with such a big machine. It's no reflection on their manhood. Those guys are much faster than me. I couldn't keep up with them on my best day. They just have their type of ride and I have mine.

[rlfaubion]

I hope you will give this some time. You've ridden, and you will ride again (sometime). The Nomad will come to be more comfortable with riding it. There's nothing wrong with riding scared. It helps keep us alive on these machines.

I believe larger bikes are safer bikes. They don't get whipped around by wind or trucks as much, therefore hold the road better. If there is a crash, they can take up more of the impact than a smaller bike.

On the other hand it may not be your style for riding. These are cruisers and not hot dog'n type bikes except for how Dan Lund rides them :) However, if you want to travel some whether on the roads or twisties, you have a great bike for it. I think of mine as "My Dad's Oldsmobile".

Good luck with your decision........

[unwind2]

If you eventually find out it's noy for you, well that's OK too. Look, I can't ice skate worth a dang. Tried many times and it was just not for me. It's strange because I can roller skate fairly well, and I was pretty good on a skateboard too. But ice skating and I were just not made for each other. Lots of folks find this out about motorcycles as well. You may feel disappointed, but there's no need to feel ashamed or defeated.



Very well put, sir.

[dui546]

Now here's my dilemma, I took the bike to the class this morning and rode the little 250 nighthawk all day. When I got back on the Nomad, I couldn't hardly manage it. I have to admit I really didn't enjoy my ride at all. The bike was just uncomforatable and not fun.

I understand how you feel. I've always had smaller motorcycles and the Nomad is my first experience with a lot of machine. I think you have a gift that some others seem to not have...YOU RESPECT the SIZE, WEIGHT, and POWER of the NOMAD. If you didn't then I'd be concerned.

I just turned over 5,000 miles of riding on my Nomad and I feel comfortable on it now. When I first got it I took it to a parking lot and practiced turns on my own in somewhat of a controlled environment. I still take it out and practice. I also have a 650 Yamaha in my garage and I ride it from time to time. Each has its own personality and handling characteristics.

My biggest concern was the extra weight of luggage and also having my wife on the back as a passenger. We took a couple of short overnight trips before the Eastern Rally ride mountain ride. I learned a lot about the Nomad's handling ability during the rally. My wife and I even learned that you can be comfortable riding the Nomad in the rain and without fear. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif The Nomad is definitely designed for cruising.

My advice is to take it on a nice solo trip at your pace and then do an overnight runaway with your wife. You might want to consider purchasing a smaller motorcycle just to work on your skills. BUT, I recommend holding onto your Nomad.

[voyager]

The size can be intimidating, have you considered downsizing to a 900? Many of my friends love the 900 and if you don't plan on long trips, this may be the bike for you. My hats off to those who are small in stature that have no problems with the Nomad. Me personaly, at 6.2 220 I had no problem with the Nomad and am even looking to the 2000 if Kawi makes it a tourer.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee302/voyagerkbc/Nomad007.jpg

voyager

[fish]

Hell, I can ice skate like I should be in the Olympics, ::) ;) well not quite but I can't roller skate to well.
After I've been riding my nomad for several months my wife is looking for a bike again. So I was checking out some bikes for size and I couldn't believe how small some bikes seem, like 750cc and 883cc were compared to the nad. My wife mention about a 250cc for running to work but for trips she said we'll still go on the nad. 25 years ago she had a 400cc I know after she get use to a 250 it will be to small. I went from a 800 to the nad in several months and also thought" did I bite off more than I could chew" every day I'm still getting more and more comfortable and love it more and more. I'm not going to tell you what to do but sleep on it, look at the pros and cons then its still your decision

[billmac]

tkd, it sounds like the whole experience was depressing for you and your confidence got rocked. I can feel your concern and will not respond flippantly. I feel it is not a good time to make finite decisions.

The Nomad's weight and length is what makes it a touring bike. It would feel awkward after throwing around a bike of half the weight designed for short trips to the store. However knowledge and control, coupled with some experience, can easily over power those Nomad intimidations.

Personally the Nomad is the most awkward at slow speed. I use engine rpm for power over that weight and control it with the clutch and rear brake.

Furthermore, I dont lean with the bike at slow speeds. Many riders do. I will just say I've never seen a motorcycle police officer lean with the bike and complete a police motorcycle rodeo course without falling. I plan to keep my head and shoulders upright and in control. I admit I never intend to compete in a road course at speeds where I have to pull the bike down and drag my knees through the corners.

I also figure if/when I make a mistake and the bike falls over, its on it own. (Like Dan Lund says, the crash bars will likely keep it from going all the way over). My plan is to try and step clear of the bike as it falls. I suggested to my wife she do the same. :)

The bottom line for me is enjoyment. I have to feel the bike is fun and worth the risks associated with it. I am going to have days I enjoy it less than others. When I dont ride it and dont seem to miss it for extended periods of time, it will be time to get rid of the bike.

I wish you the best.

[nomad1600]

I would suggest taking it a little slow. Take time to get used to the Nomad it is a big bike. I have ridden bikes for many years and when I got mine I was lucky enough that the dealer was across the street from a huge parking lot. I spent an hour riding around in the parking lot before I ever thought about getting on the road toward home. It's kinda like flying an airplane you don't go from a Cessna 150 to a Boeing 747 without training and time in type. So I would say slow down before you make a rushed decision. It will all come together, whether you ride the Nomad or get something smaller. Best of luck to you.

Ride Safe no matter what you ride.

[blowndodge]

tkd, you've seen the comments. You went through a somewhat stressful event passing your test and it's normal for a letdown, sometimes a meltdown, like Beezer has from time to times http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Take a break and when you have time for a long trip, pull the Nomad out and take a weekender, mostly superslab riding and re-aquaint yourself with her.

Nico, crashed his nomad on a mountain road and he still talks bad about it. From time to time he's told me he's not enjoying himself as much on it and feels he should get a smaller bike but he rode 1400 miles on his Mesquite trip with his Nomad and had a blast doing it.

[chawnyboy]

Hola everyone.

Good news, I offically passed my MSF course today and so did my wife. Score was not the best--in fact, I nearly failed, which really upsets me since all throughout the class, I was one of the top riders according to the instructor. Even the instructor told me I was way better than my score indicated. No clue why I did so poorly, but any way I passed (as an example, was doing emergency stops in a distance of 15-17 feet all day, did 25 on my test and completely forgot the front brake.

Now here's my dilemma, I took the bike to the class this morning and rode the little 250 nighthawk all day. When I got back on the Nomad, I couldn't hardly manage it. I have to admit I really didn't enjoy my ride at all. The bike was just uncomforatable and not fun.

I know I was tired, but the bike scared the hell out of me. I honestly think the Nomad is too much bike for me. I really enjoyed having something smaller and more nimble to ride. Maybe it's bad circumstances or timing or who knows, but I didn't enjoy the Nomad.

Now, the worst part. I felt no joy in passing the course and getting the endorsement. Honestly it was totally anti-climatic. Riding was not fun at all. This weekend of spending time learning and getting better was a good thing for me. I definitely improved my riding, but it also really put things in perspective. I'm not 100% sure, but I think there is a good chance that I'm not going to be riding any more. Right now, I am 70/30 towards getting rid of the bike and probably not replacing it.

I really appreciate everything everyone has done in my short time that I have been on the boards. You are great bunch--no question about it.

Not sure what's next

Only you know what's best for you, I know when i'm tired sometimes I can't think straight. I do agree with Ring,starting off riding on a bike like the Nomad, in my opinion is not a good idea. I think if you started on a smaller bike you would get more comfortable with riding, besides going out on your own, you can relax a little more because there is no pressure to perform like on the course. Make a list of pros and cons if you are still not sure. Good luck to whatever you decide.

I personally don't enjoy commuting on my bike, but I love taking it out on rides where I can relax and enjoy the scenery so I usually end up not riding a whole lot during the week but do 2 or 300 miles on a saturday. I think with the msf course you were swinging a plastic Tee ball bat and when you jumped on the nomad it was like picking up a real baseball bat. The nomad is a big bike, its one of the longest cruisers and longer than any bike Harley makes. I suggest you take another course either through MSF or Harley Davidson where you can practice with the nomad and I think you'll feel alot more comfortable with it

Let me tell you my story and maybe you will see how our minds play into this.

I rode 10 years in my younger years. A Yamaha 750 was my last bike and was considered big at that time. I didnt ride for 30 years and told my wife when I turned 50 I wanted a Honda 750. I am 6.0 250 pounds. Went straight in and bought the 750, knew it would fit me like a glove. After buyig it, I went into the service department, saddle up and rode it around to the front of the dealer where my friend was waiting. I was petrified of the bike. He owned a rebel 250 and had his license. I asked him to ride it home for me. So there I leave the dealership driving my van, and my friend having the time of his life on the way to my house riding my new bike.

Within 2 weeks I was hanging curves on it and realizing it wasnt big enough for me. It felt like it rode me, instead of the other way around. After 3 weeks, I took the loss and went and bought a Honda 1100. Great bike and loved it. 16,000 miles in 13 months on it.

Now all of this with just my permit. In North Carolina your permit is good for like 15 months or something. I finally went to take the waiver course and the Advanced riders course. It was all day and it was hard. This was done on our own bikes and I saw a few drop theirs. By the end of the day, I passed but was physically and mentally exhausted. All morning we practiced, then ate lunch then took the test. I did great in the morning, but at my age, the afternoon is for napping, not testing. I did terrible, but passed as I said.

This year I bought the Nomad. Again, I was a little hesitant going up again. Of course what I found is the 1100 will blow the Nomad away from the start, but they are 2 different bikes. I can now saddle it up and cruise at 90 with one hand on the handlebars and one picking bugers.

The moral is, my mind really told me I had screwed up in the start, as time went by, my instinct told me I still had what it took to ride. I would bet you to do. Take short rides for awhile when you are relaxed. In a short time your confidence will continue to build and before you know it, we will all laugh about this thread

But,,,,, if in a few weeks, you still feel the same, get rid of it and never ever second guess your choice. There is nothing wrong about being honest with yourself when it comes to anything in our lives. Dont be hasty, just be smart.

[samkjr]

TKD, I won't say anything at all to sway your decision to keep it at all. As several otehrs saidm you gotta make your won decision. As far as the test score though, not that big if a deal. Next to my bike, my other big hobby is scuba diving. When I took my first open water course, my best friend only got a 72 on the final written test. You need a 70 to pass. He felt bad about it and wen to talk to our instructor about it. Here is a brief transcript.
Friend: I just feel bad I only got a 72.

Instructor: Hey. It's really OK. Let me ask you something. What do you call someone that gets a 98 on the test?

Friend: I dont know. Smart?

Inst: Maybe. But I just call him a diver. Now what do you think I call someone that gets a 72?

Friend: A diver?

Instructor: Exactly!

[nomad1600]

I can now saddle it up and cruise at 90 with one hand on the handlebars and one picking bugers.


Man, remind me next time we go on a ride. I am riding in front of you. I just thought it was bugs hitting my winshield the other day. LOL http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Cajunrider]

TKD, I'm not going to pretend to be an experienced biker. I am a newbie to the entire sport. I purchased a new Nomad as my first bike on April 3rd of this year. I hadn't ridden anything since 1973 when I would borrow a friend's CB 750 for short trips around town and to college classes. A friend of mine at work talked me into a Nomad. I was looking at something between a 900 and 1100cc bike. I took his advice and shopped around a bit and found my Nomad still in the crate at the local Powersports dealer. They gave me a decent discount being it was an `07 and I bought it. I had to ride it home from the dealer for about 10 miles in heavy traffic. Talk about puckered up the whole trip! The dealer offered to deliver it to my house and if I had to do it all over again that's the route I would take. To top off the whole deal, a week after getting my bike my son who had just bought his Shadow 600 wanted to take a ride together on a local twisty road. Off we went. I let my son take the lead and in the 3rd curve he got a case of target fixation of the shoulder and off the road he went right in front of me. I watched him tumble from behind and in my right hand mirror after I passed him. When I came to a stop, I saw him standing hunched over holding his right forearm. I though for certain that he had broken it. It wound up being a bad case of road rash on that wrist and forearm. He was able to ride the bike home after I replaced his left peg with one of the rear ones. He also broke one of his mirrors off but that was the extent of the damage. When we arrived back home I told my wife that I would cut my losses and take the bike back with less than 100 miles on it. I was through with riding, completely! The dealer told me he would reluctantly take it back with very little monetary loss. He told me to count my blessings that my son wasn't crippled or killed and to chill for a while before making any snap decisions. I followed his advice and 3 months and 3300 miles later I am enjoying the Nad very much. I still have much to learn especially in parking lots but I'm getting there. I'm not nearly as afraid as I was in the beginning but I have not lost any of my respect for the machine or I guess you could call it fear of what it's capable of doing to me if I don't respect it. You have to make your own decision. I can only suggest that you and your wife give it some thought and pray about it. Agreeing together would be the best decision. Good luck and I know you both will make the right move.

[rflnomad]

Here is my ( borderline useless ) opinion.
First. Relax. would you consider retaking the course? Maybe you would be more relaxed now you are more used to what is involved in the course.
Second. The Nomad is a BIG bike and is not the easiest bike to ride. It is what it is. Do not think it can be tossed around like a 250. It can't. Try taking a leisurly cruise on a easy morning on back two lane roads. Maybe it will come back to you. The comfort of the Nomad is its strong point.
Third. If you are more comfy on another bike, it's OK. As mentioned, look at the 900 LT. It is lighter and more manuverable than the Nomad and a great bike.
All in all, Thumbs up for admiting your feelings and being honest.
Good luck.

[Todd]

I am probably gonna take some flack for this statement....but the course is just a course and not the absolute be all and end all of riding a bike....you will adapt to your own riding style and it does not always have to be EXACTLY like the course grades you on.....but, you must feel confident to ride safely. Don't get me wrong, I think the MSF courses are a good thing, just not the only thing.

[dui546]

I am probably gonna take some flack for this statement....but the course is just a course and not the absolute be all and end all of riding a bike....you will adapt to your own riding style and it does not always have to be EXACTLY like the course grades you on.....but, you must feel confident to ride safely. Don't get me wrong, I think the MSF courses are a good thing, just not the only thing.

Todd is right. +1 to you Big Guy!

[scion0]

I personally don't enjoy commuting on my bike, but I love taking it out on rides where I can relax and enjoy the scenery so I usually end up not riding a whole lot during the week but do 2 or 300 miles on a saturday... it

Like Wolfman, I really don't ride it to work during the week but do enjoy my weekends on it.

Given enough time, you will make your best choice.

[socwkbiker]

You're right Todd. It's a training course designed to give you information and experience, that's it. TKD, the social work exam is similar in that you need a 70 to pass and it doesn't matter if you score a 70 or an 80, you still get the license and you get the respect. You passed the exam which means you get both the license and the respect for passing. Great job for passing.

I know after my exam, I was tired and didn't want to ride, it happens. It's completely up to you if you want to keep your Nomad, get a smaller bike or stop riding all together. Like everyone said, give yourself some time and maybe try riding again. Give yourself the chance, not just the bike. Regardless, I want to assure you that you are always welcome here, even if you decide you don't want to ride.

[skimo]

I say give it some more seat time around the neighborhood. Practice, Practice, Practice

[jussmatt]

Well...tkd it looks like there's a lot of good info on here....and I'm sure you'll make an educated decision. The only real advice I have to offer, is that you take some time. Since you've been 'cramming' a lot of riding of the smaller bike into a couple of days...it's only natural for the Nomad to feel like a building on wheels!!! Giving yourself some time will enable your mind to gain a fresh perspective on things.... Last thing you need to do either way is to rush into things!!

[tkd]

I don't know what to say. I'm blown away by not only the sheer number of responses, but even more by the amazing amount of unbiased, unjudging comments and advice.

I've had a few hours to download and bottom line is I know I was one of the top riders in the class today regardless of score. I know I rode for 7.5 hours today and nailed every situation and it wasn't luck--exhaustion, axiety, and worrying about my wife got the best of me at test time. I also know that had I been going to the DMV to take the test, I would not have done it in my phycial and mental shape, but sometimes you don't get to choose everything--one person even had to sit out for a while due to heat exhaustion--it was 92 on a dark parking lot. I listened, learned, applied the knowledge and saw the results. If I had taken the test 3 hours earlier I would have nailed it. I also know that when I was talking to the instructor who was the kind of guy who wanted to help people learn (his full time job is as a seargent who is motor training officer--he runs the course in Minneapolis) he gave me something to think about. I was telling him some of the things about the Nomad as he hadn't ridden it (I did offer him the key) and some of the things I had learned to do. I told him I could manage a u-turn in about 2.5 parking spaces and manage to navigate a parking lot at less than 5mph with decent comfort. Also mentioned how I was practicing (total 90's from a stop, tight turning, off-set weave, etc). His first comment was 2.5 spaces? U-turn? Fairly New rider on that bike We only make the motor officers do it in 2.

I know I am extremely hard on myself when it comes to my own standards. The point was made that a pass is a pass and I get that, I guess I just hold myself to higher standards than others hold me too for better or worse. As I continue to decompress, I realized some things. Coming home, My speeds on familar roads (curves & straights) were higher (still within the legal limits, but higher than I had ever taken them before on the Nomad. I did find myself employing the techinques I had been using and they did work, albeit with a slower response time than the little bike I had been on. I leaned better, I was in better position to brake and accelerate and road evaluations were better.

To top it off, my wife, who was convinced she was done with bikes sat down with me tonight for 2 hours and wanted to look at bikes on the net to see what she liked the looks of and helped me to understand what she wanted in a bike and we did find a few that she wants to investigate, so that's definitely a curve.

For now, I think I'll just slow down, trust my instincts and continue to work on my skills, the bike, and my comfort leve and see where that gets me.

Thank you all for allowing me to post this and for all the advice.

[skeeter]

I'd ride with you.

Sounds to me like you might be overthinking this a bit. Focus on the positive thoughts. You must have a positive mental attitude. Sounds to me like you were upset with your score, came home, got on the Nomad, and started letting your attitude about riding at the time affect your ability. Go to a parking lot, do some manuevers on the Nomad, and RIDE!

[unwind2]

Thank you for posting tkd, it was a good discussion. Who knows there may be others lurking who have had the same thoughts but were afraid to express them. As Skeeter said..I'd ride with ya. ;)

[mmartin]

Hey Man
I have rode everything from dirt bikes to hardtail choppers since the mid 70's. But once I got the Nomad it took me awhile to get use to that big sucker, sit back and just think about it awhile.
Like everyone here is saying, put the bike in the barn and have a cold one and relax a bit, give it some time. the only one who knows whats best for you --- is you.
Good luck Buddy

[flightdoc]

tdk,

You may or may ot know that I am a MSF rider coach for the state of New Hmapshire. I definitely applaud your candor about taking the class and your fears about riding. I'm sure you speak for many.
If you've decided within youself that riding is not for you then I would suggest giving it up. If it don't fit.....don't force it.
If you're still in love with the idea of biking then sign up for an intermediate class. It's one whole day of riding. I've had students tell me that the one extra day was just what they needed to feel more comfortable.
Your rider coach was correct about the eval...the score doesn't always tell the whole story. Forgetting the front brake under the pressure of the eval is not good.....forgetting it under the pressure of a real life situation can be deadly.
Good luck with your decision.

vin

[Cajunrider]

TKD, You're 3/4 of the way there. Sounding much more confident already. You'll be OK. Chill.....

[caddman11]

My wife and I took the class together and it was very interesting. She wanted to ride too, she has a Harley Hugger. It was a cold rainy weekend and we were miserable. I"m 6'4, 270 lbs and because I had been riding for years and the class was really full, I got stuck on a Buell Blast. I didn't fit on that bike at all and did most of the riding sitting on the rear fender. When it came to the final riding test, I crashed the bike, had to do a hard turn maneuver and caught a foot peg and the rear wheel kicked out from under me. I found out later that I had cracked 2 ribs. You are aloud to take the test twice, and I obviously failed the first time so they gave me my second chance, but this time a a small Kawasaki that you sit up on. I passed that one in flying colors and was asked if I would like to become an instructor.

As bikes go, the bike before my Nomad was a Harley Sportster Custom--about 500 lbs. I could push this bike around with no problems and was very use to it. It was fast enough to keep up with anybody, but I still felt like circus bear on a mini bike. So this early spring, my Harley was sold and I got the Nomad. I have a little over 2000 miles on it and I am just now starting to feel comfortable on it. When I first got it, I thought I may have made a mistake too, the only time I felt good was over 30mph , my wife knew it and wouldn't get on the back and I didn't blame her. Now it's feeling a lot better, but I still feel that my feet are trying to slide out from under me at stoplights. I have now learned to watch how I park, hate pushing it backwards out of anything. The best advice that I could have gotten was no matter what your doing, always keep the bike perpendicular to the pavement, the Harley was easier to lean over to make slow walking turns or back out of places, but as I get use to the Nomad, I would never give up the comfort for a smaller bike.

I understand your dilemma and wish you luck with your quest. If you give your self some time to get use to the bike, all should be well, but if you really don't feel comfortable and don't want to give it some time, it sounds like your decision is made.

[ridemslow]

You find yourself in a RUT! I've been there, done that too. Not exactly the same situation, but similar. Seems like everyone "clams up" at a test time, myself included. Just take a few days to think about it and keep positive. It's like the word test is evil..and sinister. You did good all thru practice, and then when test hit, you just clammed up and nearly flunked, but you DIDN'T! Now go get on that bueatiful Nomad, Hold your head up high and RIDE!

[tkd]

Ok,

24 hours later.

I am too hard on myself apparently. I did pass the test and I know the mistakes I made. Environmental factors and fatigue took a huge chunk out of my judgement. I now know the most important thing I learned in the class is how environmental factors affect my performance and judgement. 5 hours of class and 3 range hours on Saturday plus 8 hours of range on sunday at 92 degrees took it's toll on me. There was nothing on the test I couldn't do or didn't do throughout the day, I just didn't do my best on the test.

Bottom line is I know I can ride the Nomad, I just have to learn to manage the size, weight & power better. Trust me, I already respect it. My intentions are to keep the rides simple until my skills and confidence grows and they will. Parking lots and cones are in my future now that I know where I need to work and what the "standards" are. I will get to where I need to be.

For now, the Nomad stays and she and I are going to find a happy medium. So, I guess y'all are stuck with me, good, bad, or indifferent.

And BTW, the wife has been searching and researching bikes for her all morning. Maybe it's a sign of divine intervention?

Thanks

[socwkbiker]

Glad to hear it tkd! Enjoy your ride and I look forward to one day seeing you on the road.

[scott2007nomad]

Start with local rides, low trafic back roads and practice the parts that make you most nervous.
I rode a '79 Honda 650 for three years before I moved up the the Nomad.
I still practice my u-turns. A lot harder on a big bike where I can't really shift my weight like they teach in the class.
The more time you get in the saddle, the more confident you will become.

I'm thinking I may take the advance rider class some day if I find the spare money. :)

Take it slow and enjoy the process.

[scion0]

Good deal, glad to hear it.

[ridemslow]

I knew you had it in ya! Good deal man!




Ok,

24 hours later.

I am too hard on myself apparently. I did pass the test and I know the mistakes I made. Environmental factors and fatigue took a huge chunk out of my judgement. I now know the most important thing I learned in the class is how environmental factors affect my performance and judgement. 5 hours of class and 3 range hours on Saturday plus 8 hours of range on sunday at 92 degrees took it's toll on me. There was nothing on the test I couldn't do or didn't do throughout the day, I just didn't do my best on the test.

Bottom line is I know I can ride the Nomad, I just have to learn to manage the size, weight & power better. Trust me, I already respect it. My intentions are to keep the rides simple until my skills and confidence grows and they will. Parking lots and cones are in my future now that I know where I need to work and what the "standards" are. I will get to where I need to be.

For now, the Nomad stays and she and I are going to find a happy medium. So, I guess y'all are stuck with me, good, bad, or indifferent.

And BTW, the wife has been searching and researching bikes for her all morning. Maybe it's a sign of divine intervention?

Thanks

[caddman11]

Glad to see you got a 2nd wind on the issue. Ride safe and keep those eyes open.

[coacha]

Glad to hear of your decision.

Where are you located? Maybe some other Nomad riders can ride with you and give you some tips or something?

[Cajunrider]

Good deal Tkd. Glad we're stuck with you. Ride safely and keep us posted.

[kingcruiser]

Glad to hear you're sticking with it. I didn't ride for 30 years and then took the MSF course. I picked up my Nomad 2 days after I finished the course and was scared sh##less riding the thing home.( a ride of about 2 miles) I got used to it after taking small rides and eventually longer rides. After riding for a year and feeling confident I dropped my Nomad in a parking lot doing 2mph. I felt like an idiot and went through a period of panicking every time I came to a stop or had to do any low speed maneuvers. After thinking it through I realized what I did wrong. I grabbed the front brake while doing about a 180 degree turn. After that I took a long ride to the Central Rally and got my confidence back. Time and experience are great healers. Try and sit back and look at things objectively. Things will get better and you'll be able to make the right decision.

[dui546]

Good On YOU. +1

[davidjones1]

VERY GOOD NEWS,

WOW, two things here stick out. Number one, the guts and honesty of your original post. Number two, the way the members of the forum responded. Cudos to you tkd, and my hats off to all that responded in such a positive way to a fellow rider.

[unwind2]

WOW, two things here stick out. Number one, the guts and honesty of your original post. Number two, the way the members of the forum responded. Cudos to you tkd, and my hats off to all that responded in such a positive way to a fellow rider.
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[kawbuc]

I can understand where you are coming from. My last bike was a Vulcan 900 classic. That has to be the easiest bike to move around that i have ever rode. If you still want to ride , just want something easier to manuever around. Check out the VN900. Good bike. As a matter of fact , i told my wife that i would like to have the 900 for local riding and my Nomad for long rides. Of course , that didnt go over too well with her. Two bikes, wow , what a dream.
After i rode the Nomad for a couple of months , i couldnt part with it for anything.
Good luck and keep us informed.

[cactusjack]

I must be the oddball here (no, really?) but after 10 minutes on my newly-bought Nomad, it was like I had always been riding it. I had traded in a similar, but smaller bike (Suzuki C50T) which was about 200 pounds lighter than the Nomad. I think when I first threw a leg over it to ride it home from the dealer and stood it up off the kickstand, I thought "man, this thing is heavy!". By the time I was halfway home, it was like we were made for each other. The only problem I had was adhering to the break-in speeds during the first 600 miles.

[blowndodge]

I agree CJ. On the oddball part http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

...The only problem I had was adhering to the break-in speeds during the first 600 miles....

Big problem for me too. In fact, I failed completely.

...For now, the Nomad stays and she and I are going to find a happy medium....

I'm glad it worked out for you. Sometimes a new day and a fresh outlook changes the whole world. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

[ringadingh]

Good to hear that youll keep riding so far, give it time with the Nomad. Ive been riding close to 40 years now, and the Nomad took me by far the longest to get used to. Now I absolutely love it.

[skeeter]

cute Nancy