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markc
11-19-2016, 09:50 PM
just curious were you all are set at with and without a passenger
rick6375
11-19-2016, 10:30 PM
25psi with 3 on the rebound solo, I'm about 215lbs. At least 32Lbs with 3 on rebound with the wife, Anything less 2up and the pipes scrape before the floor boards, she a little heavier than me, just a little. I have 58k+ miles on it so that may need higher pressures than a new bike due to wear. I also have a trunk bag the probably weighs in at about 15-20lbs that is always on the bike.
TX1700rider
11-19-2016, 10:41 PM
30psi with 2 on the rebound. I have a large curb at the end of my driveway so I have to run this pressure so that the pipes don't drag getting on to the street. I am almost always 2 up with my girlfriend. I am still experimenting with mine but my last ride of just over 100 miles felt pretty good on several different roads of varying conditions.
mbarr10
11-20-2016, 07:57 AM
Still experimenting ( that's over now, Snow in Minneapolis) But running 20lbs On #3 I am 192lb. Never had a passenger. Running #3 may be to much, but My 1500 Classic did so I went with that.
Snake Ranch
11-20-2016, 04:29 PM
30 psi and #4 setting. With the large trunk the rear axle weight has been 950 pounds and the front axle was 450pounds. Total weight of the skoot with riders and gear, 1400 pounds.:tup::tup:
mbarr10
11-20-2016, 08:07 PM
Not sure how you weigh the bike but, have you ever tried to eat a salad. I'm just saying?? Actually I am Envious of your trips and the time you have to haul the gear. Does the bike still handle well or is that just the to an fro weight, and not the I am here to drive around weight. I had handling issues with my 1500 classic on the way to Sturgis, once there it was back to normal. Looking at a trailer for my Vaquero to solve the problems of my last ride.
Hillhouse
11-20-2016, 08:44 PM
I don't think this is called for " have you ever tried to eat a salad"
if you take the bike weight 900 add 50 lbs for trunk, 100 for saddle bags you get 1050 lbs. Now for me I weigh in at 185 and wife is 130 so total weight is now at 1365 lbs so 1400 total weight is not unreasonable. Yes the truck/bags are carrying more weight than speced but they can handle it from my experience. I ride 20k+ a yr loaded and with a trailer and my Voyager hasn't let me down and doubt that it will. I run hard through the twisties (knee dragger)
If your comment was a tongue in cheek (that I didn't catch) as the Church Lady says "Never Mind"
mbarr10
11-20-2016, 09:44 PM
Never mind....... But how do you distribute the tong weight? With the weight on the trunk at 50 lbs , how does that affect the tong weight for the trailer and handling? I hate to get ready for a trip and find out I have a bad handling bike. Just happened last summer going to Omaha, thought I would take my fishing gear. Had to take it off to redistribute the weight and configuration to make an acceptable handling ride. My buddy offered to haul my suit case back in his car trunk, to make my return trip safer. That was not a 1700 Vaquero. Just a 1500 classic
Snake Ranch
11-21-2016, 02:35 AM
Not sure how you weigh the bike but, have you ever tried to eat a salad. I'm just saying?? Actually I am Envious of your trips and the time you have to haul the gear. Does the bike still handle well or is that just the to an fro weight, and not the I am here to drive around weight. I had handling issues with my 1500 classic on the way to Sturgis, once there it was back to normal. Looking at a trailer for my Vaquero to solve the problems of my last ride.
In Oregon there are unmanned truck scales. I have been across them numerous times checking my weights under certain conditions. Helpes understand my scoots handling characteristics.
This skoot handles extremely well when fully loaded, very stable. I weighed it one axle at a time, and both together.
Your tires, and the air pressure you run in them can influence your control a great deal. I am a firm believer in running the max pressure the tire will allow. If you are looking for a softer ride, address the issue with the suspension systems. They leave something to be desired. Not with lower tire pressure to soften the ride.
But different tires will give different results.
The lower air pressure you run the more sidewall squirm you get, hence, more pucker time, because there will be more wear you have on your tires, your fuel milage drops off and the tires run hotter.
I just replaced a Commander II front tire that had a little more than 7000 miles because it started this wobble and was getting worse as time passed. I check the steering head bearings and torque. Both were ok.
Put the front tire up in the air and spun it and it had a side to side distortion.
I am a dark sider, and the rear tire is a Yokohama Avid Ascend LRR. It really smoothed out the ride. I run 51 psi which is the max for that tire. It is still softer than the OEM, but with higher ratings.:tup::tup:
Gypsy Dragon
11-21-2016, 11:56 AM
41 on a 4. I like taught suspension.
Ken Vega
11-21-2016, 06:14 PM
20 psi on 3. All riding conditions
talon
11-23-2016, 11:50 AM
On my 2012 Vaq, for solo riding pre-load set on II and air about 15-18. Riding two-up, pre-load III and air 25-30. If trunk on also, pre-set IV. Seems to be sweet spot for us.
skullbagger
11-23-2016, 12:00 PM
Talon lowering links and two up give you any problems Iv'e been looking at those or an air tail type of shock.
i know im in the wrong thread/ I should have started a new one
my apologies
talon
11-23-2016, 12:32 PM
Talon lowering links and two up give you any problems Iv'e been looking at those or an air tail type of shock.
i know im in the wrong thread/ I should have started a new one
my apologies
skullbagger,
No, the lowering links are great. I think that I was one of the first guys on here to add the links. Really have liked the bike's stance and ride more since installing them. More than 15,000 miles with the links and I haven't had any issues so far. I am usually solo, but when the wife rides with me, I just up the pre-load and add a little air. Rides great. :tup:
skullbagger
11-23-2016, 02:14 PM
skullbagger,
No, the lowering links are great. I think that I was one of the first guys on here to add the links. Really have liked the bike's stance and ride more since installing them. More than 15,000 miles with the links and I haven't had any issues so far. I am usually solo, but when the wife rides with me, I just up the pre-load and add a little air. Rides great. :tup:
Did you lwr the front too?
i ride mostly 2 up, except for occasional times she has something to going on
talon
11-26-2016, 09:49 PM
No, I did not lower the front; just the rear. I like the stance better and the handling is still great even two-up. I hope that helps.
skullbagger
11-28-2016, 06:57 AM
yeah it does, thanks for letting me pick your brain some I'll order a pair
probably today
DragonLady58
12-01-2016, 01:13 PM
just curious were you all are set at with and without a passenger
Just me, bike, few tools, riding, going somewhere, haulin' ass, Set @ #4, about 5psi.
On vacation, riding, bike loaded down and with trailer attached, 1400-1500lbs, #4 @ 35-40psi.
With my new air shock system, am anxious to see....seems to carry weight a little better at a little lower pressure, might be because of piston size in air shocks...:tup:
vangaans
02-18-2017, 04:15 AM
Curious about how people are putting air into their shocks.
The manual calls for the rear wheel to be lifted off the ground when putting air into the shocks, is this what people are doing?
smokier
02-18-2017, 07:41 AM
Curious about how people are putting air into their shocks.
:D With an air pump? :lol:
I have not raised the rear tire off the ground. With the bike side stand on a black o wood to make near level, then a bicycle pump. Dragon Lady mentioned 35-40 lbs. That seems like tire pressure range, not shock range. 10 ~ 12 lbs in the shocks... Maybe I like it softer than DragonLady?
Ride safe,
SMokier
vangaans
02-18-2017, 08:00 AM
Lol, well I had that coming.
Interesting, so you believe they specify lifting the rear wheel to level out the shocks Smokier? Makes sense, might try your idea.
I'm currently running them at 0 pressure.
mbarr10
02-18-2017, 10:15 AM
I built a wheel chock out of 2x4s and a 2x6 base plate to keep it level. I use it for air among other things. Seems I still cannot find the perfect rebound/air combo for me. Turning it down to 2 today and going with 15 psi. Solo weight 194. I think it should have some air, just to keep resistance in the chamber for the seals. To increase the longevity of the system. But I am Just guessing it will help, no solid proof.
smokier
02-19-2017, 08:06 AM
Greetings,
"Interesting, so you believe they specify lifting the rear wheel to level out the shocks Smokier? Makes sense, might try your idea."
Yes. Haven't replaced the dual filler with a single filling value, but that makes sense to me as well.
Ride safe,
Smokier
Hillhouse
02-19-2017, 11:21 AM
The manuals say to lift the rear tire off the ground. Reason being you want same pressure/weight on both shocks and without a cross connect there is a 2-4 lb difference between shocks when on the side stand. You can have rear wheel on the ground just be sure bike is upright. Shocks are speced for up to 43 lbs.
Be sure not to use an air compressor to fill and use a no leak hand pump, bicycle pumps lets to much air out, these shocks have a small air chamber so any loss ='s pressure drop.
hlknvlcn60
02-19-2017, 12:25 PM
I use a 100 lb. capacity Progressive shock pump to fill my shocks with air and that is the tool that anyone should use and nothing else or you risk blowing the seals out of your shocks. They are accurate and have a little button you can push to bleed out air if you need to. I fill my shocks with the bike upright on my wheel chock for dead-on even settings but you can get pretty close with the bike on it's side stand. I love fast cornering so I keep my solo settings at 35 psi at my weight of around 215. My lady weighs just about 110 lbs. so riding two up I have it set at 38 lbs., and the same when we have the bike loaded and the tour pack on.
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