ECU Flash from Ivan's Performance available

[Scootergptx]

Plug it in turn on bike (don't start) and will get error code 98. Turn off wait 10 seconds and unplug battery, wait 10 seconds plug back in.

Thanks for correcting that. :tup:

Something about getting older and my memory.

[Lumberjack]

Make sure to wait before unplugging battery

Thanks for correcting that. :tup:

Something about getting older and my memory.

[JD Hog]

Here is a scan of the instructions I received for my ECU re-flash.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mk30599z87qyyir/ECU%20Instructions.jpg?dl=0

[notmighty]

Thank you ALL! I didn't have the ECU back from Ivan when I posted earlier today, but FedEx just dropped it off, I have a 16 so I just have to disconnect the battery. Super Excited can't wait to take it for a ride tonight.

[Ken Vega]

Thank you ALL! I didn't have the ECU back from Ivan when I posted earlier today, but FedEx just dropped it off, I have a 16 so I just have to disconnect the battery. Super Excited can't wait to take it for a ride tonight.

You are going to love it. Wish this was around before all my trials and errors with the EJK and PCV

[Erilflynn]

Thank you ALL! I didn't have the ECU back from Ivan when I posted earlier today, but FedEx just dropped it off, I have a 16 so I just have to disconnect the battery. Super Excited can't wait to take it for a ride tonight.

And the 02 Sensor

[hlknvlcn60]

Really....had Ivan's posts and tunes been available sooner, I too would have saved some good scratch on worthless fuel tuners. It is hindsight now and no regrets.....love the way the big Vulcan runs and as it should.

[notmighty]

You are going to love it. Wish this was around before all my trials and errors with the EJK and PCV


Ya I feel for those that went with the tuners, I did that on my Yamaha stryker as Ivan didn't offer anything for them. Once he did I jumped on it, sold my EJK and never looked back. I rode my vaquero straight home and pulled the ECU out, I even made a step by step youTube video.

[terryd]

Ya I feel for those that went with the tuners, I did that on my Yamaha stryker as Ivan didn't offer anything for them. Once he did I jumped on it, sold my EJK and never looked back. I rode my vaquero straight home and pulled the ECU out, I even made a step by step youTube video.
Hey, that video will be helpful to people who haven't done this yet. Hope you post it.:tup:

[notmighty]

here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFLgEyX0zE

[JD Hog]

I just dropped my Voyager off at my local dealership for the 7500 mile service and asked him if he had any problems with the ECU re-flash and the warranty. He said that was no problem and would not void my warranty. I was very glad to hear that as I have read that a few people have had issues with their dealerships.

[terryd]

I haven't heard of anyone having issues with their dealerships. Why would you even bring it up to your dealership? That's just inviting them to deny a warranty claim. It's been discussed at length here that unless a mechanic physically pulls the ECU out to inspect it, something they more than likely will never do, there is no way for them to detect the ECU has been flashed. Too much information can often be a bad thing.

[JD Hog]

I haven't heard of anyone having issues with their dealerships. Why would you even bring it up to your dealership? That's just inviting them to deny a warranty claim. It's been discussed at length here that unless a mechanic physically pulls the ECU out to inspect it, something they more than likely will never do, there is no way for them to detect the ECU has been flashed. Too much information can often be a bad thing.

The reason I brought it up is because I had to tell them not to plug in the 02 sensor when they were doing the service. I have a great relationship with him and I wanted to make sure that he had no issues with it. If he did I would have just told him I would have it re-flashed back to stock to satisfy him. I would not have done that but instead just purchased another ECU for installing when ever I had to take the bike in for service or repairs.

I would rather have this conversation with him before any warranty claims arise. If the 02 sensor was still plugged in then I would have never said anything about this.

[terryd]

The reason I brought it up is because I had to tell them not to plug in the 02 sensor when they were doing the service. I have a great relationship with him and I wanted to make sure that he had no issues with it. If he did I would have just told him I would have it re-flashed back to stock to satisfy him. I would not have done that but instead just purchased another ECU for installing when ever I had to take the bike in for service or repairs.

I would rather have this conversation with him before any warranty claims arise. If the 02 sensor was still plugged in then I would have never said anything about this.

I didn't specifically talk to my dealer about the flash but I did ask him about modifications and upgrades. He told me that Kawasaki doesn't have a problem with them. In reality Ivan's reflash is probably safer for the bike than add on fuel management which a less knowledgeable user could really screw up. If anything, I expect to get more miles out of this bike from the cooler operating temperatures.

[Erilflynn]

I just dropped my Voyager off at my local dealership for the 7500 mile service and asked him if he had any problems with the ECU re-flash and the warranty. He said that was no problem and would not void my warranty. I was very glad to hear that as I have read that a few people have had issues with their dealerships.

I may have to have this conversation too. Today I had my Commanders put on and they have to take the exhaust off for the rear tire (only left side apparently). So I asked the wrench (who I know pretty well) if he plugged/unplugged anything and he said no. When it goes in for service I may go your route.

[MADTIME]

And the 02 Sensor

Anyone know why you have to disconnect the O2 sensor?

[Peg]

Anyone know why you have to disconnect the O2 sensor?

Yes... Ivan does. Give him a call, or check through his thread (this thread!) :D

Edit: The flash renders the sensor obsolete. It will only interfere with Ivan's fuel mixture, and mess things up.

[mike07nad]

I may have to have this conversation too. Today I had my Commanders put on and they have to take the exhaust off for the rear tire (only left side apparently). So I asked the wrench (who I know pretty well) if he plugged/unplugged anything and he said no. When it goes in for service I may go your route.

The reason they would remove the left exhaust is so they can pull out the rear axle. While I do not remove the exhaust - I do remove both shocks which allows me to jack up the rear tire until the axle clears the left pipe. Sounds like 2 different ways to skin the same cat.

Mike (Red_VGR)

[hlknvlcn60]

I guess I am lucky, no exhaust can removal on mine for tire changes, with the 2-1 pipe.

[pbgreat1]

Just got the Ivan flash today. Called this morning and asked if it could be done today. Ivan told me to come on up. I took the 2.5 hour drive from Newark, DE to Congers, NY. All told, it took about 45 minutes or so. It was only that long because he was shipping multiple orders of flashed ECUs when I arrived. The flash makes a huge difference in my 2012 Vaquero. 6th gear is ridiculous when passing now. Downshifting is extremely smooth. Not one pop from the exhaust. I can't really speak to gas mileage yet because I was very heavy on the throttle for the ride home (indicated 110 at one point on the NJ Turnpike). $350 well spent. If you haven't gotten it done, do it

[bsilver1968]

I thought about planning a site seeing trip up to Congers since it would be around 10 hour ride for me from NC. I can't get away from work now and I didn't want to wait any longer for the flash so I mailed my ECU to Ivan yesterday. Can't wait for the improved performance.

[Ken Vega]

I may have to have this conversation too. Today I had my Commanders put on and they have to take the exhaust off for the rear tire (only left side apparently). So I asked the wrench (who I know pretty well) if he plugged/unplugged anything and he said no. When it goes in for service I may go your route.

Let your wrench know next time that its not necessary to remove the muffler to remove the axel in order to remvoe the rear wheel. :tup:

[Puckman77]

Yes... Ivan does. Give him a call, or check through his thread (this thread!) :D

Edit: The flash renders the sensor obsolete. It will only interfere with Ivan's fuel mixture, and mess things up.

A little tidbit of info:
I took the bike to Ivan's, had the reflash done, then didn't notice until about 20 minutes later that my ABS light was still on following start-up test. Turns out that Ivan inadvertently disconnected my ABS plug rather than my O2 sensor. I corrected the problem, but didn't notice any ill effects from leaving the O2 sensor plugged in, nor any changes in bike behavior after unplugging it. Lesson learned here is that if you are a bit worried about your dealer and didn't want to discuss the reflash with him, simply plug the sensor back in for the service.

[bsilver1968]

Got a call today that my ECU is on it's way back from Ivan. Does anyone have a link to something on how to disconnect the O2 sensor? I have a 2016 Vaquero that is stock so need to leave the sensor in the exhaust pipe until I decide if I want to change the pipes. Do I disconnect it at the pipe or where?

[ponch]

Got a call today that my ECU is on it's way back from Ivan. Does anyone have a link to something on how to disconnect the O2 sensor? I have a 2016 Vaquero that is stock so need to leave the sensor in the exhaust pipe until I decide if I want to change the pipes. Do I disconnect it at the pipe or where?

Does the tune require disabling the 02 sensor? If not, some aftermarket pipes should have the bung for the 02 sensor on them.

[JD Hog]

Got a call today that my ECU is on it's way back from Ivan. Does anyone have a link to something on how to disconnect the O2 sensor? I have a 2016 Vaquero that is stock so need to leave the sensor in the exhaust pipe until I decide if I want to change the pipes. Do I disconnect it at the pipe or where?

On my 2015 Voyager I had to remove the right side cover under the seat. There is a wire that runs down to the right side muffler 02 sensor. Unplug that wire and tie wrap the lower wire from the sensor so it wont be hanging down. Follow Ivans instructions when you turn the bike on the first time after installing the ECU. Enjoy the totally new ride after the re-flash :D :tup:

[Ken Vega]

The O2 sensor has to be disconnected Ponch otherwise it will be battling the tune Ivan flashed in. It will create ECU chaos. LOL:D

[talon]

Well, just to continue this thread; got my ECU back from Ivan, and back into the Vaquero. A little hickup at first due to my throttle mod; the cables were a little too snug. After a quick adjustment, everything seems to be good. Couldn't be happier. Thanks again Ivan for all the hard work getting this available.

[Scootergptx]

I did get to confirm the 115mph (speedometer reading) and 4k rpm.

I know the speedometer may be off a bit, but it still has the capability to go faster.

[CaptKurt]

Got my ECU back in, zero'd out the PCV map and test started the bike. Still awaiting a bunch of parts to come back from paint before I can do a road test.

[JccVaquero]

It has been a week since Ivan ECU mods were performed on my 2015 Vaquero. On my 4.5 hour ride home on an open stretch of lonely road, went 100+ mph with significant throttle to spare.

My bike will go faster than I will.

It did seem to run cooler, but it wasn't a 90 degree day either. I am not sure if there was any improvement in the fuel economy. Dash says 37.3 but I haven't actually calculated to the mpg. The family van gets around 15 mpg

pop,pop,pop on deceleration is a thing of the past. Hard to understand on a new bike EPA or not.

Twist the throttle for a quite rumble,rumble,rumble. Who needs to hear what they think you have when they can see what you really have?

Ride safely for joy filled fun..

Thanks Ivan. Thanks to all who went before and set the expectation standard through the roof.

JohnC

[tigertom]

put a couple thousand miles on sense the reflash, must say I love the results. my only issue is finding good enough fuel. I must not be very observant, watched Ivan put the ecu in and never saw or knew that the o2 sensor got disconnected if you haven't had the flash just do it you wont regret it.

[Comptime]

Been scanning the thread til my eyes cross. Lol.. 2015 Voyager had my ECU reflashed probably two months ago. Running great on stock breather and pipes. Recently I ran into a problem. It usually takes one push of the starter and the bike starts right up, but once it wouldn't fire off and I had to hold the starter several seconds to get it to kick off. The other day I got my Cobra Tri Flo s and installed them myself. Bike runs great but I have to give it a little throttle to get it started. Didn't think I would need to on fuel injection. Not sure if it's bad gas, not getting enough air, or running too rich. I plan on calling Ivan, but wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Not knocking he reflash..just have a little glitch.


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[Vulcanrider03]

Have you try to run seafoam in ur gas tank

[Comptime]

Haven't tried the Seafoam.


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[ponch]

Maybe the throttle bodies need cleaning. This used to happen on the 1500/1600s when schmutz would build up around the throttle blade If you get some throttle body cleaner, take the air filter off and give it a good spray around the throttle blade it should clean up. Sometimes I'd have to use an old toothbrush and give a little scrub.


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[Comptime]

Thanks. Will give the throttle blades a clean.

[Zkuz81]

Well I bought a 2011 with 15k on it. Had it one week and 600 miles. Mailed ECU to Ivan today. Cannot wait for it to be back.

[dndcoop]

With the flash ,it is much richer on start up ,needs the plates open a little more for more air , mine does the same .....no biggie..

[Snake Ranch]

Been scanning the thread til my eyes cross. Lol.. 2015 Voyager had my ECU reflashed probably two months ago. Running great on stock breather and pipes. Recently I ran into a problem. It usually takes one push of the starter and the bike starts right up, but once it wouldn't fire off and I had to hold the starter several seconds to get it to kick off. The other day I got my Cobra Tri Flo s and installed them myself. Bike runs great but I have to give it a little throttle to get it started. Didn't think I would need to on fuel injection. Not sure if it's bad gas, not getting enough air, or running too rich. I plan on calling Ivan, but wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Not knocking he reflash..just have a little glitch.


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One of the Voyager owners in our club changed his spark plugs and afterwards said it started much easier. I think he said there was over 35,000 miles on them. He has over 100,000 on the skoot.

Something to consider that won't cost to much.:tup::tup:

[Lumberjack]

You know the plugs are worth >$25 each...

One of the Voyager owners in our club changed his spark plugs and afterwards said it started much easier. I think he said there was over 35,000 miles on them. He has over 100,000 on the skoot.

Something to consider that won't cost to much.:tup::tup:

[Lumberjack]

FYI Ivan advanced the timing which in turn makes vehicle harder to start

Been scanning the thread til my eyes cross. Lol.. 2015 Voyager had my ECU reflashed probably two months ago. Running great on stock breather and pipes. Recently I ran into a problem. It usually takes one push of the starter and the bike starts right up, but once it wouldn't fire off and I had to hold the starter several seconds to get it to kick off. The other day I got my Cobra Tri Flo s and installed them myself. Bike runs great but I have to give it a little throttle to get it started. Didn't think I would need to on fuel injection. Not sure if it's bad gas, not getting enough air, or running too rich. I plan on calling Ivan, but wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Not knocking he reflash..just have a little glitch.


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[igottasrt8]

Installed my Ivan's flashed ecu this morning and it makes the bike much better to ride. I really hated the stock tune.

[klmullen]

Got my ECU Sunday and installed it according to Ivan's directions. HOLY CRAP my bike moves now!! If you're thinking about doing this you've already taken too long. Getter done. The results are nothing short of amazing!!

[newblu]

Went to Ivan's shop today. About 180 miles south of where I live. I figured it was a nice day for a ride to upgrade my 2012 Voyager and do a little comparison right away. Well, Ivan was there and very informative. I appreciate his eye for detail and no nonsense kind of way. He grabbed my unit in a matter of minutes and had it back in in no time. At the first start up already a difference in the smoothness, rpms, throttle response, and i haven't even left yet!
Now that I came back 180 miles the same way, about 60 city and 120 highway, I averaged 40mpg at a highway speed about 78mph. On the way down I was getting about 35.5. Overall much more pull in every gear, no need to downshift from OD to 5th, she pulls along real nice. Nice throttle roll, quick throttle, oh, no rapid deceleration when letting off the throttle, just a smooth coast. Backfiring is thing of the past!!
If your thinking about it, do it! No Regrets.

[Ridefree]

I just bought a 2013 Vaquero and I'm loving every mile I put on it . I'm now making arrangements to have the ecu sent to have it flashed . Hopefully it returns before my next holiday booking . From all that I have read on the forum I'm looking forward to it .

[Diggles]

Have had the ECU back in the Nomad for 3 weeks after a 2 1/2 week trip by post to the USA for Ivan to work his magic reflashing it.

I have a K & N air filter and Vance & Hines slip ons.

I now have more lower end torque,higher pickup speed,it runs cooler, shifts seem smoother and power on the whole band.
The throttle is also very smooth and predictable with a very easy feel to it.
Overall the bike is now what it was meant it to be.

If I had to do it over, I would in a second!! Add me to the list of satisfied owners that have done Ivan's upgrade.

2012 Nomad 1700
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[Ridefree]

I sent my ECU out to Ivan on Monday . I'm already going crazy . I've read every word on this thread and can't wait to get it back . I've only put approx 200 km on my Vaq since I bought it and now it sits waiting for it's major improvement .

I have a three day trip planned and will comment after I get back . I have no doubt in my mind that Ivan's magic will make the ride very enjoyable .

[Fatjock]

So, apart from running hot, and the popping and farting on the over-run, I was really happy with my bike, but after reading this forum for a bit, began noticing more and more I was unhappy with. I became intrigued by Ivans flash, but being cautious about irreversible, or not easily reversible modifications,I decided to purchase a spare ECU. Got one from E-Bay
(which arrived last week), fitted it to test, and when I was happy it had no faults, decided to use this for the flash.
Sent it of to Ivans Monday (2 days ago), was flashed yesterday, and got it back today.
Fitted,and went for a 50 mile test run.

Notice a difference in the throttle response within 15 yards, and the grin started. It became fixed when I realized how much cooler it was running, and after I refueled, reset the
Mpg calculation, and saw the improvement in consumption, I was totally sold.

Everything I've read about the flash, and the service is true. I can't say enough good things about it. So glad I did it. My bike is now complete.........for the moment!

[Ridefree]

Still waiting for my ECU to arrive at Ivan's . The horse and buggy must have stopped for water !! :D

The more I read about the flash , the more I'm looking forward to getting it back .

[Ridefree]

Update : Got a call from Ivan's . The ecu is ready and is on it's way back . I payed a little extra to have it sent back in two days . I'm looking forward to seeing how the bike will perform !!

[Ridefree]

I received my ECU back from Ivan today and got a chance to go out for about an hour . I did some slow speed maneuvers ( figure 8's ) and such , rode through some residential areas and finally hit the highway to see what she would do . Shifting was very smooth , throttle response was spot on and very smooth . The eng temp was much lower than before . Much more torque throughout all gears . And best of all absolutely no back firing or popping on decel .

All I have to say is I'm very glad I decided to go this route and have it flashed instead of buying a TFI . It did make the pipes a bit quieter but I can sure live with that .

The 11 days I waited to get this done was more than worth it !!!! :D

:tup::tup: Ivan , thanks to you I can enjoy my bike much more than before . There are no words to express how grateful I am for what you've done !!!

:cheers: Cheers to you ..... Your the man !!!!!

[Ridefree]

It just occurred to me that before I sent my ecu to Ivan I had put a marble into the hose that's behind the right side side cover to minimize the popping . I know that the flash turns all that stuff off .

Should I remove the marble or should I just forget about it ?

[Peg]

It just occurred to me that before I sent my ecu to Ivan I had put a marble into the hose that's behind the right side side cover to minimize the popping . I know that the flash turns all that stuff off .

Should I remove the marble or should I just forget about it ?

The flash disables the valve I believe, so it should make no difference... The marble may still be in mine now I think about it.

[Ridefree]

I may just go ahead and remove it on the next rainy day . Can't see it affecting anything if the system is disabled . Thanks for the added conformation !! :tup:

[paradiddle]

Just did the Ivan ECU flash after running with power commander for awhile. all seems well so far. did 2 day fedex up and back Mon-Fri.

[Gunner191q]

I just got off the phone with Ivan's. Really nice people and paid the bill. They say it will be back in my hands tomorrow. New York to California in a day for $81.00. My credit card is now officially shot after buying an 8" windvest, Cobra 4230 slip ons, Kawasaki Backrest and qr mounts and the Kawasaki Gel Touring Seat. Looks like I am getting too sick to work tomorrow..........

[Gunner191q]

My ecu arrived today from Ivans and I just installed it per the included instructions. The o2 sensor was unplugged from under the right hand side cover and zip tied in place so it wont flop around. Anyhow since it was late I have only put about 5 miles on it. My first and immediate impression was that the bike sounded different immediately. Smoother acceleration and the Jerky on off throttle issue when riding through curvy mountain roads is now 100% gone. That alone was worth the cost. I plan on putting well over 800 miles on it in the next three days on a ride from Redding area to Reno Nevada then 395 to Bridgeport for the night then south to Lodi before riding back home. My bike now has 842 miles on it and I would think I would have a good feel for the Ivanized ECU, the New Kawasaki Gel Touring Seat and the new 8" black windvest windshield I added. The Cobra 4230 slip on pipes were cancelled by online seller as they wont ship to California. I need to find some decent slip ons that the seller will ship to Kaliforniastan. If anyone has any advice please let me know.

[Ridefree]

Hey Gunner , I would seriously look at putting a set of V&H slip on . I heard a Vaquero ( Ivanized ) with them and they sound incredible . Nice deep rumble at idle and they really sounded great when he pulled away . They had a really good bark to them when he opened it up .

[Gunner191q]

Ridefree, I really like the look of the vance and hines slip ons. I had not really considered them because they didnt have an o2 sensor bung. Now that the bike has Ivans flash I can use anything. I just need to find a retailer that will ship to the crappy state of California.

[JD Hog]

My ecu arrived today from Ivans and I just installed it per the included instructions. The o2 sensor was unplugged from under the right hand side cover and zip tied in place so it wont flop around. Anyhow since it was late I have only put about 5 miles on it. My first and immediate impression was that the bike sounded different immediately. Smoother acceleration and the Jerky on off throttle issue when riding through curvy mountain roads is now 100% gone. That alone was worth the cost. I plan on putting well over 800 miles on it in the next three days on a ride from Redding area to Reno Nevada then 395 to Bridgeport for the night then south to Lodi before riding back home. My bike now has 842 miles on it and I would think I would have a good feel for the Ivanized ECU, the New Kawasaki Gel Touring Seat and the new 8" black windvest windshield I added. The Cobra 4230 slip on pipes were cancelled by online seller as they wont ship to California. I need to find some decent slip ons that the seller will ship to Kaliforniastan. If anyone has any advice please let me know.

Try West End Motorsports. I ordered the Cobra Tri Flo Slip Ons and they did ship to California. I paid $519.96 total for them in January and they are now $573.67.

It did take me a while to find someone that would ship to California. I did have a shop in FLA that wanted to charge me extra to ship them to her and rebox them and ship to me for 100.00 more. West End had them shipped in the Cobra box with the name outside and it went through fine.

West End Motorsports (https://www.westendmotorsports.com/cobra-tri-flo-slip-on-mufflers-for-nomad-1700-voyager-vaquero-1700-09-up-chrome/)

[Gunner191q]

Jim, thank you for the referral. I will order them tonight!!!

[UNCLE WILLIE]

Hey Gunner , I would seriously look at putting a set of V&H slip on . I heard a Vaquero ( Ivanized ) with them and they sound incredible . Nice deep rumble at idle and they really sounded great when he pulled away . They had a really good bark to them when he opened it up .

i have them -- good sound and better power

[Gunner191q]

So 210 miles on the ivanization. Absolutely better in every way. I cant imagine going back to stock. Throttle control is now perfect, heat is greatly reduced riding two up fully loaded in 100 degree heat and the bike now runs between half and three fourths of the way up the temp gauge versus crowding the hot marker at all times especially in city traffic. Its like a different bike now. Ivan is a genius��

[billy88]

Got my Ivanised ecm back in the bike today and all I can say is WOOO HOOO !!!! What a difference....mileage went from 36 to 41 mpg and the roll on is GREAT....runs in the middle now on the cooling no backfiring and the hesitation is totally gone....GREAT JOB IVAN !!!!

[Gunner191q]

I have hesitated to post this as its not a very scientific test so its just an observation that I made. So prior to the ivans reflash I used my elcheapo harbor frieght infared thermometer and took temperature readings over a period of a week riding to and from work on my vaquero. Its about 30 miles each way of mixed mountain roads with about 15 miles of Interstate 5 thrown in. Taking temp readings of the rear cylinder in the finned area closest to my right leg the temps frequently ran about 265- 292 degrees on the cheap thermometer. After ivans reflash on an otherwise stock motorcycle riding the same route and measuring the same area on right side of cylinder the temps ran from 192 to 216 degrees. This is with outside temps in the 100-109 degree range in Redding. The heat is much less noticable, popping on deceleration is gone, the odd throttle response is gone. Gas mileage is up. I just completed a 1470 mile ride over the last week and am totally happy with the vaquero, The optional Kawasaki Gel touring seat just didnt pan out as I hoped it would though. Time to look for other options

[Gunner191q]

I really dont trust the harbor freight thermometer to be perfectly accurate temp wise. I do believe though that its safe to say Ivans reflash did manage to reduce operating temps considerably over the stock ECU.

[Gunner191q]

Tried a Duratrax "flashpoint" infared today and had even lower temps. Of course outside temps in mid 70's now showed temps in the 160-180 degrees in same area. Bikes temp gauge was at halfway point all day today during the 155 miles I rode. Also switched oil to Kawasaki Full Synthetic 10w40 at the 1500 mile mark. I know I didnt need to change it yet as it was changed at the 600 mile service I just wanted to see if it helped the shifting smoothness at all (it did). That may affect temps also.

[Ridefree]

" The optional Kawasaki Gel touring seat just didn't pan out "

After a lot of consideration I went with the Wide Mustang with front and rear passenger back rests . I could ride all day ! I found when I first sat on it , it felt kinda hard but after riding for a bit my butt formed to the seat and became very comfortable . I felt that it pushed me forward a bit because of the rise to the passenger seat but not enough to bother a short guy like me . ( 5ft 10" )

Another option is the Russel Day Long . A few of the guys on here have them and would be able to help you with that .


Glad your enjoying the new ride . . . Happy Miles !!! :tup: :cheers:

[Gunner191q]

I live about 30 miles from Russell day long seats. I have had three of them over the years and they were comfortable. Ugly but comfy. I really like the new vaquero but I am not sure I want two tractor seats on it. If the mustang doesnt shove me forward onto the tank I may just give the mustang a try.

[Peg]

I have a Mustang for my Voyager - it's my "around town" seat only, replaced with a Russell. My passenger didn't like the Mustang, mostly because moving me that little bit back cramped her for space against the trunk, and also it's too flat, so she slid forward too easily into the drivers backrest.

For the rider it was just OK. Better than OEM but not enough better. I was a staunch supporter of Mustang until this one, but they missed the mark just a little for the Voyager IMHO.

The Russell is wonderful for any long trips, but yes... Vaq's could be just a little too pretty to put tractor seats on. :D

I'd be looking more at Corbin than Mustang for a Vaq?

[Chuck A.]

My ECU gets shipped to Ivan tomorrow. Purchased and brought the bike home last Friday with rain all weekend so I really don't know the bike well enough to know what this flash will improve but did feel a few things I thank were noticeable and needed improving.

[556ALPHA]

I took my 18 Voyager out today. It has close to 500 miles on it. I rode it home 300 miles from the dealer keeping it under 2500 rpm. Today I moved up to 3000-3500 and hoped for better power. I had a VTX 1800 and using that as a comparison, knowing the differences. I was really let down with how little power it has. I thought the low end torque would be strong, but no. The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed. I know its not a Concours but it just feels flat and slow, struggling. I am sending the ECU out tomorrow hoping for better results.

[Toku57]

I took my 18 Voyager out today. It has close to 500 miles on it. I rode it home 300 miles from the dealer keeping it under 2500 rpm. Today I moved up to 3000-3500 and hoped for better power. I had a VTX 1800 and using that as a comparison, knowing the differences. I was really let down with how little power it has. I thought the low end torque would be strong, but no. The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed. I know its not a Concours but it just feels flat and slow, struggling. I am sending the ECU out tomorrow hoping for better results.

While I'm not a Voyager owner, I'm very interested in getting one and therefore have researched them extensively on this forum and elsewhere. I have read numerous accounts from VN1700 owners like yourself who were initially disappointed with their bike's performance, only to find it suddenly wake up after 2,000-3,000 miles. It seems virtually everyone who's "Ivanized" their bike notices a marked improvement in performance, cooler running, and better mileage, and hopefully as the engine breaks in that will help as well. Perhaps others here may confirm this.

[Chuck A.]

556Alpha, love the color of the 2018's. She's sharp!

[Chuck A.]

What air pressure are ya'll finding works well for tire life and grip on these bikes?

[BonVoyager]

I took my 18 Voyager out today. It has close to 500 miles on it. I rode it home 300 miles from the dealer keeping it under 2500 rpm. Today I moved up to 3000-3500 and hoped for better power. I had a VTX 1800 and using that as a comparison, knowing the differences. I was really let down with how little power it has. I thought the low end torque would be strong, but no. The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed. I know its not a Concours but it just feels flat and slow, struggling. I am sending the ECU out tomorrow hoping for better results.

I can’t agree with you on the stock power comment, but I can tell you that the driveability and hesitation issues are cured with the Ivaniziation as well as the overall feel of how it performs.

[556ALPHA]

Thanks for the comments and feedback. I definitely think I got some bad gas, ran most of it out yesterday and added some ethanol tretament to the remainder. I have just under half a tank left and am debating pumping the rest out. Will a basic hand pump work? Any specific recommendation? I sent my ECU off this am and would rather have some better gas in when I install the Ivanized unit.

I have ridden many Harleys from the 88s to the 103. Rode an 03 Road King and 06 Electra Glide for years. Both with a 1450cc engine will would away from my Voyager based on the butt dyno. I assumed another 150cc would compensate for any weight difference with the Voyager.

Hopefully some more miles for break in and better gas with the Ivan reflash will improve things. I have always loved the look of the Voyager, the 18 color combo sold me.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4749/39956098941_64d067bdf1_c.jpg

[mbarr10]

The hesitation from off idle and all around driveability has me very disappointed.


Hesitation and Jerky throttle response goes away with the flash. I was going to sell my Vaquero, I was that disappointed. Now I'm happy I kept it. And You will be too.
But Gas Mileage?? If you really wanted good gas mileage you would have bought a Z125.:lmao:

[556ALPHA]

Thanks. Im sure things will improve.

I havent said a word about bad gas mileage. Im actually getting 44.2 mpg through 500 miles, better than a Concour 14.

I said I must have gotten some bad gas causing driveability issues. After I came home to pull the risers after filling up I went back out and it barely ran at idle until I put some ethanol treatment in and raised the rpm with the throttle.

[mbarr10]

I said I must have gotten some bad gas

I see that now, My mistake.
So while on the subject though, My mileage did not improve. Totally me though, it was so much fun to drive I rode it harder. "Your Mileage may vary"

[556ALPHA]

Im already assuming my mileage will drop as the smileage rises. Ive never worried too much about mileage, not using it to commute.

[redjay]

You might actually see your mileage rise.

[Chuck A.]

I sent my ECU off today also. Called Ivan. He mention slip-ons for $505 with free shipping with the reflash. Still thinking about it. I originally said I was gonna kept this bike quitter. Love the sound of my 1500 with Vance and Hines but on a long ride it gets in your head.

[556ALPHA]

I was able to get the ECU installed and get a quick spin in before the rain. I pumped out the fuel in the tank and pumped in a couple gallons of different gas. Bike runs much better with the ECU reflashed. The throttle respose is significantly improved, riding around in 5th feels like the factory flash in 4th. Seems to rev faster if that makes any sense, just all around a much better running bike. I would say its well worth the cost, probably much more. I suppose a bigger air kit and pipes would give it a little more power based on Ivans dyno graphs but I am going to keep it stock for now and enjoy the better throttle response. Bike still has not been broken in, I have read many reports of it running better after adding a couple thousand miles.

[Toku57]

Ideally, if I get a Voyager I'd like to find one that's already been Ivanized. However, if I can't I'm wondering if you all could answer some questions about how to proceed in the most economical manner:

I see where Ivan charges $350 for the re-flash, shipping not included. If I got the re-flash done and decided at a later date to get some V & H slip-ons and a Roaring Toyz air filter or similar products, would I need another reflash?

Also, Chuck A. mentioned he's considering getting some slip-ons from Ivan, so I'm assuming he sells them. Does he also sell air filters, and is a bundle deal, i.e. getting a re-flash, slip-ons, and air filter from him a better deal than getting the slip-ons and air filter somewhere else?

Since I definitely would want the ECU reflashed, and probably want slip-ons and an aftermarket air filter, I'd probably just budget for all three unless I was fortunate enough to find a bike I liked that had all three. But if not, it'd be nice to know the most economical way to proceed.

Final question about aftermarket air filters. Do they make much difference to the decibel level? I know they can make inline 4's and 3's noticeably louder, but wasn't sure about V-twins. I wouldn't want the decibel level to be a lot louder than stock, so if the slip-ons/aftermarket air filter combo makes the bikes considerably louder I'd probably just get the re-flash and slip-ons.

Thanks in advance for any guidance here.

[Chuck A.]

The reflash has a return shipping charge unless you buy the slip ons. With the slip ons there is no return shipping charge. Ivan sells the slip ons for $25 less than any price I found on the internet. I didnt change the filter. I asked Ivan about the reflash if the filter was changed and he said this flash was good for everything unless you change the intake itself.

[redjay]

Final question about aftermarket air filters. Do they make much difference to the decibel level? I know they can make inline 4's and 3's noticeably louder, but wasn't sure about V-twins. I wouldn't want the decibel level to be a lot louder than stock, so if the slip-ons/aftermarket air filter combo makes the bikes considerably louder I'd probably just get the re-flash and slip-ons.



An aftermarket air intake kit (BAK) is quite a bit louder than the stock set up.
Just changing the stock air filter on the left side of the bike does not make the bike louder.

[Toku57]

The reflash has a return shipping charge unless you buy the slip ons. With the slip ons there is no return shipping charge. Ivan sells the slip ons for $25 less than any price I found on the internet. I didnt change the filter. I asked Ivan about the reflash if the filter was changed and he said this flash was good for everything unless you change the intake itself.

Thanks Chuck - good to know. I'm confused about air filter vs. air intake. Is air intake considered a separate modification changing air flow?

Also, what slip-ons does he sell?

[Toku57]

Final question about aftermarket air filters. Do they make much difference to the decibel level? I know they can make inline 4's and 3's noticeably louder, but wasn't sure about V-twins. I wouldn't want the decibel level to be a lot louder than stock, so if the slip-ons/aftermarket air filter combo makes the bikes considerably louder I'd probably just get the re-flash and slip-ons.



An aftermarket air intake kit (BAK) is quite a bit louder than the stock set up.
Just changing the stock air filter on the left side of the bike does not make the bike louder.

Thanks redjay. I thought the whole compartment between cylinders was for the air filter. So the Roaring Toyz functions as both the filter and the intake, and using it means no more using the stock filter?

[Chuck A.]

...........Also, what slip-ons does he sell?

V&H, and Cobra. He said he prefers V&H sound. Said either works well with the reflash.

He will talk with you on any question. Nice guy.

[redjay]

Thanks Chuck - good to know. I'm confused about air filter vs. air intake. Is air intake considered a separate modification changing air flow?

Also, what slip-ons does he sell?

The air filter is on the left side of the bike as you sit on it. You can leave it with a stock filter or change the stock filter for a K&N. The K&N replaces the stock filter in the stock filter position.

An aftermarket air kit is completely different. It goes on the right side of the machine and usually involves removing the cross over tube between the cylinders and the engine draws air only from the right side making the stock air filter box on the left side of the machine obsolete.

I don't know what exhaust systems Ivan sells. I sold my Voyager before the ECU flash was available. I now have a 1300 Yamaha V Star with Ivans flash, a Cobra Powrflo intake and a Cobra slip on muffler. Very pleased with the results.

[redjay]

Thanks redjay. I thought the whole compartment between cylinders was for the air filter. So the Roaring Toyz functions as both the filter and the intake, and using it means no more using the stock filter?


The stock air box on the left side of the bike (as you sit on it) contains the stock air filter. The filter does not fill the whole compartment between the cylinders. Take the cover off the left hand side and take a look and you will understand.

The Roaring Toyz air intake kit contains the intake assembly and a round K&N filter. Be aware that with any aftermarket air intake kit (BAK) you will get more intake noise and some people don't like that. I learned to live with it and did not mind it.

[Toku57]

The stock air box on the left side of the bike (as you sit on it) contains the stock air filter. The filter does not fill the whole compartment between the cylinders. Take the cover off the left hand side and take a look and you will understand.

The Roaring Toyz air intake kit contains the intake assembly and a round K&N filter. Be aware that with any aftermarket air intake kit (BAK) you will get more intake noise and some people don't like that. I learned to live with it and did not mind it.

rj - thanks for clarifying. The aftermarket kits seem to protrude significantly more. Do they ever hit your leg, or present an issue when getting on the bike?

[redjay]

If you get Chucksters kit that uses the stock cover it does not stick out any further than the stock set up. I don't know about other brands.
No issues hitting a leg or getting on an off.

[Toku57]

If you get Chucksters kit that uses the stock cover it does not stick out any further than the stock set up. I don't know about other brands.
No issues hitting a leg or getting on an off.

Good to know the Chucksters kit will allow use of a BAK with the stock covers. I really like the look of them, so would prefer to keep them. Do the stock covers reduce the noise of a BAK any?

[recumbentbob]

Good to know the Chucksters kit will allow use of a BAK with the stock covers. I really like the look of them, so would prefer to keep them. Do the stock covers reduce the noise of a BAK any?

Not really.

[rick6375]

I had a Thunder stock air kit on my 2012 Voyager for a couple years, ended up going back to stock with a K&N filter due to the noise it made. If you have aftermarket pipes, you probably wont notice it as much, but I have stock pipes with baffles drilled out, but cats still intact. with the air kit, it was like opening the 4 barrel carb on an older Chevy every time it was under a load, noise wise.

[ray2]

Thinking about getting my bike flashed by Ivan but have 114,000 true miles on it now and just do not know if I should go ahead and do it. bike is a 2010 Nomad and I like the bike as it is set up the way I want it. Has new belt and pulleys and swing arm bearings and a lot of other stuff replaced while Laverne Kawasaki was doing the work on it for me (They do great work) at about 90,000 miles so will last another 100,000 miles just hate to get it done and then decide to get a new bike. Anyway better make up my mind as only have 30 to 45 days till I can start riding. last year could not ride for 7 full weeks because of health so am ready to get going this year. will need to find out for sure how to get the ECU out I think it just unplugs after battery is disconnected. When bike was new there was a recall on it. Let me know what you would do.

[redjay]

If you plan on keeping the bike then I would say get Ivans flash.

[ray2]

Thanks for the reply redjay. pretty sure I will be keeping my bike, can't find anything better. I am not a mechanic and outside of oil and filter change and air filter change don't do much more than that now was reading about an o2 censor so have to find out about that.

[Toku57]

I had a Thunder stock air kit on my 2012 Voyager for a couple years, ended up going back to stock with a K&N filter due to the noise it made. If you have aftermarket pipes, you probably wont notice it as much, but I have stock pipes with baffles drilled out, but cats still intact. with the air kit, it was like opening the 4 barrel carb on an older Chevy every time it was under a load, noise wise.

Thanks. I wouldn't mind it a bit louder than stock, but not too much. I don't like a loud bike and also leave early for work so don't want to annoy the neighbors.

[mbarr10]

was reading about an o2 censor so have to find out about that

Ray2 No O2 sensor on your 2010, So no worries

[Toku57]

I've read Ivan engraves and/or puts a sticker on ECUs he's reflashed. I'm guessing if I call dealers about used Voyagers and ask if one has had Ivan's reflash done, at least 19 times out of 20 the response will be "Huh?"

Is it pretty simple for a dealer to view the ECU and find Ivan's marking?

Also, I thought I saw a photo of an Ivanized VN1700 ECU somewhere, but haven't been able to find it again. If someone has a pic they can post, or provide me with a link, that'd be great so I'd know what to look for too.

[Scootergptx]

I've read Ivan engraves and/or puts a sticker on ECUs he's reflashed. I'm guessing if I call dealers about used Voyagers and ask if one has had Ivan's reflash done, at least 19 times out of 20 the response will be "Huh?"

Is it pretty simple for a dealer to view the ECU and find Ivan's marking?

Also, I thought I saw a photo of an Ivanized VN1700 ECU somewhere, but haven't been able to find it again. If someone has a pic they can post, or provide me with a link, that'd be great so I'd know what to look for too.



This is from a Yamaha. I don't recall the sticker being that big. Could be a smaller ecu too.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161202/04b1c445a7e53679920d396682e90d45.jpg

[ray2]

Thanks mbarr10 for the info

[Toku57]

This is from a Yamaha. I don't recall the sticker being that big. Could be a smaller ecu too.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161202/04b1c445a7e53679920d396682e90d45.jpg

Thanks Scooter. I just saw a vid with a guy removing his from his Vaquero and it had a big honkin' white sticker too. Looks like there's some effort required to get the ECU out to see if it's been Ivanized, so not something a dealer's likely to check for me while I'm on the phone.

Since I've never ridden a Voyager, are there some performance clues that would tell me whether one's Ivanized or not? I know the cold idle speed used to fluctuate on Ivanized bikes, but I saw where that's not the case now.

So are there other clues I should look for like jerky throttle response, flat spots, hesitancy when applying a quick throttle twist, etc.?

[Jofourn]

Okay okay okay... I’ve done it! Sent Ivan my ECU today! Can’t wait... thanks to everyone for your enthusiasm and comments! You made the decision to spend the pennies very easy! :D

[Ridefree]

It'll definitely be worth the wait , guaranteed !!! Just like buying a new bike !!! You should put your bike description in your profile .. It helps the forum members help you out when you have questions about it .... :tup:

[Fuzz]

I have a couple questions. I bought a 2010 Voyager 2 years ago. LOVE the bike. Now I'm ready to pull the trigger on Ivan's Flash. His form asks if the bike has a Power Commander or Cobra Fuel Tuner. Since I'm not the original owner, how can I check to see if the bike has these either of these on it?

[Peg]

I have a couple questions. I bought a 2010 Voyager 2 years ago. LOVE the bike. Now I'm ready to pull the trigger on Ivan's Flash. His form asks if the bike has a Power Commander or Cobra Fuel Tuner. Since I'm not the original owner, how can I check to see if the bike has these either of these on it?

If installed, either one would probably be under the seat somewhere. The best way to check though would be to follow your injector leads to ensure there's nothing piggy-backed in off those. Any fuel controller should have male and female injector connections so it can get in to alter the settings it needs to alter to do what it does.

Here's the installation instructions for my (now retired) EJK fuel controller (http://www.electronicjetkit.com/instructions/9120417-Orange1-VN1700Classic.pdf)so you can see what I mean.

If you go with Ivan's flash (and I very highly recommend that you do)... for best results you should remove whatever fuel controller is in there completely. Otherwise it's likely that both systems will fight each other.

[redjay]

I have a couple questions. I bought a 2010 Voyager 2 years ago. LOVE the bike. Now I'm ready to pull the trigger on Ivan's Flash. His form asks if the bike has a Power Commander or Cobra Fuel Tuner. Since I'm not the original owner, how can I check to see if the bike has these either of these on it?

You might also see a small black wire from the fuel processor added to the battery terminal.

[Fuzz]

Thanks! I will dig into it this weekend.

[Jofourn]

We’ve been Ivanized! Delivery Tuesday! C’mom Weather... time to warm up!!

[smokier]

We’ve been Ivanized! Delivery Tuesday! C’mom Weather... time to warm up!!

Yes to both! :cheers:

[Fuzz]

It's official.

[mbarr10]

Congratulations, Enjoy your new bike

[Jofourn]

Just finished my first ride of the year! My first ride with Ivan’s flash! New Commander IIs, Grasshopper Backrest, Longhorn Foot-pegs. Yeeeee haaaaw!!! More fun than an adult should be allowed to have!! Ivan’s work is just incredible!!

[schlappy95]

I just sent my ECU off today to get the Ivan treatment. I feel like kid waiting for Christmas, the Voyager and I are gonna be so happy.

Sent from my Lenovo TAB 2 A10-70F using Tapatalk

[Fuzz]

I've had the bike out several times and so far I'm impressed. I notice more chatter around 2k rpms. Is this normal?

[recumbentbob]

2000 RPM in what gear???

[Fuzz]

I hear it while shifting up or down. Injectors / fuel management?

[P2breaker]

I just got the Ivan’s flash. I waited 2 years and 12k miles too long. The bike feels great. 25mph used to suck so bad with heavy engine breaking and decal pops. All fixed and all gone. It feels like a bike should now.

[Yasser]

hey guys I own a (2016 Kawasaki Vaquero) and I'm really excited for Ivan's ECU flash but at the same time I'm really afraid it might effect the bike after several years.
can someone help me decide cuz I'm so scared. knowing that I'm in the Middle East so if something goes wrong It will cost me a lot to ship the ECU to the states and back to the Middle East
plus I'm considering the (power commander V) cuz I consider being an outsource so I can remove anytime if something goes wrong, but is it worth it

[redjay]

Just get Ivans ECU flash and forget about getting a Power Commander.

The ECU flash will not harm the bike and the bike will be the same in several years as the day when the flash was first done.

[smokier]

hey guys I own a (2016 Kawasaki Vaquero) and I'm really excited for Ivan's ECU flash but at the same time I'm really afraid it might effect the bike after several years.
can someone help me decide cuz I'm so scared. knowing that I'm in the Middle East so if something goes wrong It will cost me a lot to ship the ECU to the states and back to the Middle East
plus I'm considering the (power commander V) cuz I consider being an outsource so I can remove anytime if something goes wrong, but is it worth it

Get the flash. :tup: Disconnect the O2 plug, ride and enjoy! :cheers:

[TX1700]

I hear it while shifting up or down. Injectors / fuel management?

Fuzz are you use 91 or greater high test gas as the flash requires it some can get away with it, but Ivan tuned the ECU for high test gas.

[redjay]

I've had the bike out several times and so far I'm impressed. I notice more chatter around 2k rpms. Is this normal?

When you say chatter do you mean more intake noise ?
If so it is perfectly normal, especially in the 2500 to 2800 rpm range.

[Keith72]

Finally went ahead and got the flash. Waited too long to do it. Took it for a short ride yesterday. Thank god no more decel popping. And the extra power is a plus too. Started it up in the driveway after the install. The wife and I both noticed that it sounded different. Smoother and slightly quieter. Can't wait to do some long term testing. :)

[redjay]

I have Ivans flash on my 1300 V Star. Open the throttle wide at 100 kmph and it takes off like a scalded cat.

[Keith72]

Just got back from another ride post flash. Went about 90 miles. Bike seems to run smoother and quieter. No change in operating temps. Was about 90 degrees today. Seemed to pick up about 1mpg average. From 44 to about 45mpg average. Again as mentioned in my last post it has stopped backfiring/decel popping. Couldn't be happier.

Thanks Ivan

[JD Hog]

Just got my ECU back from Ivan this morning for the 3rd generation re-flash. I must say it is much better for slow speed drive ability and it kept a smooth idle on cold start up. It ran perfect in the higher gears also.

For those on the fence about doing this just have it done and enjoy your new bike.

Thanks Ivan for your dedication to a great product and customer service :tup::tup:

[Pitchinguy]

Finally got my ECU sent off to Ivan this AM. He'll get it tomorrow. Can't wait to get it back! I had a Cobra FI2000 but am taking it off. That thing was the most wasted $ I think I've ever spent on a motorcycle!

[smokier]

Finally got my ECU sent off to Ivan this AM. He'll get it tomorrow. Can't wait to get it back! I had a Cobra FI2000 but am taking it off. That thing was the most wasted $ I think I've ever spent on a motorcycle!

You'll be so happy with the difference, that the cost of both together will still be worth it! :D:cheers::tup:

Ride safe,
Smokier

[MrMikey]

I must say it is much better for slow speed drive ability

I've got the first gen flash and I do notice it's a bit jerky at slow speed is that what you're referring to? I've been thinking it's me but you say the third gen flash will get rid of it maybe? The jerky bit, not the driver jerk :-)...........Mike

[JD Hog]

I've got the first gen flash and I do notice it's a bit jerky at slow speed is that what you're referring to? I've been thinking it's me but you say the third gen flash will get rid of it maybe? The jerky bit, not the driver jerk :-)...........Mike

Yes, you will have a better riding bike at slow speed. It will be worth the cost of shipping for this update. :tup:

[ray2]

Back in FEB 2018 was thinking about getting Ivan's ECU flash but did not get it sent in before weather warmed up so I could start riding. Had put bike away for 2018 and on Nov 23rd 2018 it warmed up to 43° F did not go for ride like I was going to but did get the ECU out of bike and sent in to Ivan. Got it back on Dec 1st 2018 (ground shipping) on DEC18th 2018 warmed up to the 40's so put the ECU back in bike and tried going for a ride but only went about 5 miles Road was Icy where shade hit the road Two days later went about ten miles but still some icy spots so put bike away for the winter. did not ride enough to know for sure but so far when first start bike up seems to idle a little faster maybe 500 rpm but goes down to 900 rpm after warmed up The exhaust sounds Just a little higher pitch at idle and when I was riding No slop in the throttle and it is some faster when accelerating. Glad I had this done and this summer will be able to tell the difference for sure but for now after only about 15 miles I know there is a difference in the positive direction.

[Calflan]

Just got mine back. Ivan was fast and great to work with, thank you sir! Only able to do a short 30 mile run, but bike definitely seemed to have more when I turned the throttle to pass a car. Jumped up with more power. Idles nice, so far very happy. One item was I have a Racnray throttle mod as well and Ivan mentioned i may not like the combination of the two mods, might consider removing the Ray mod as the ECU flash should offer a similar response. I did not remove it and the two, for me, seem to be fine. Love the bike's response and the throttle mod, for me, works well with the flashed ECU.

[MVA-Voyager]

Ssssshhhhhh .... Ivan is running a sale

http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/carbs.htm

[amamecman]

Just got my reflash done. Rode the bike to his shop in Greenville and rode it back home, 4 hour round trip. WOW, what a difference! Throttle response improved, no more backfiring on decelerating, cooler engine temperatures, overall ride quality is greatly improved. Well worth the cost to reflash the ecu. Also made upshifts and downshifts smoother due to improved throttle response. Thanks Ivan!
2019 Voyager...

[Ken Vega]

Wondering if I should get the latest version. I already have version 2.0 :shrug:

[vulcanscott]

Mine goes back tomorrow morning for the Update C4B3 I believe :tup:

[royhobbs1977]

Whats the feedback from those of you that have done the latest update from Sept 2020?

[Peg]

Whats the feedback from those of you that have done the latest update from Sept 2020?

I was reluctant to send mine back yet again... It's a long way, and shipping is expensive from way down here - not to mention the three weeks it takes to get to Ivan and back when I can't ride.

So I asked Ivan by PM whether he thought it was worth it, when I was entirely happy with the bike as it was after a flash and then two updates. He assured me it was.

A week after the final update, I can report that Ivan was right... With this update my bike just rides better than it has ever before. :tup:

[vulcanscott]

throttle response is more user friendly !

[Ken Vega]

I need to send mine in. I was practicing slow maneuvers and the throttle is real touchy, tough to maintain a constant RPM in the friction zone. I had Racin Ray's throttle mod still on the bike also. I took it off, but the throttle is still touchy. I think I will bite bullet and send it for a reflash version 3.0 I have 2.0 currently. I can ride my 21 Road Glide while the Vaquero is down. :)

[Ken Vega]

Man, I took the Vaquero today for some slow speed practice, and boy does it suck at low speeds compared to my Road Glide. I need to send my ECU off to Ivan ASAP to get version 3.0. The 2.0 version has the throttle way touchy and when I try to stay at about 1500 - 1800 RPM in the friction zone, the RPMs just climb even though I am not adding input to the throttle. I'm doing the Ride Like a Pro class this weekend. There is no way I am taking the Vaquero for this class.

[redjay]

Are you sure version 3.0 cures the issue you are having ?

[Ken Vega]

That's what I hear Redjay. I tried everything to stay at about 1500 - 1800 RPM in the friction zone to do tight u turns and weaving through cones. I recently cleaned the Air cleaner, throttle Body, changed oil. The rear brakes are like new. My 2021 Road Glide just handles so much better at high and low speeds. I don't think I can bring myself to sell the Vaquero, but I was disappointed today, after having a great slow speed session on the Harley yesterday. :ohno:

[Chuck A.]

My voyager is so much better at all RPMs with the stock mufflers with the Ivines flash. Liked the sound of the V&H but performance wise stock keeps it smoother.

[ldhthept]

I know nothing about riding the Vaq or much about Ivan’s reflash since I ride a 1600 Nomad but you listed that you have a power commander as well as the reflash on the Vaq. Could they be fighting each other at slow speed? Just a thought.

[Chuck A.]

Yep, Ivan did not intend on the commander being use with his reflash.

[Ken Vega]

[QUOTE=ldhthept;726486]I know nothing about riding the Vaq or much about Ivan

[ldhthept]

Then again I’m not having throttle probs…

[Peg]

I know nothing about riding the Vaq or much about Ivans reflash since I ride a 1600 Nomad but you listed that you have a power commander as well as the reflash on the Vaq. Could they be fighting each other at slow speed? Just a thought.
I think you nailed it.

And Ken's response is a glitch in quoting your post. My own response came out the same as his, until I removed the apostrophe from "Ivan's" with an edit. That apostrophe seems to stop the post in it's tracks.

[GeorgeHouston]

Seeming interesting, I will consult you soon

[andyvh1959]

Let us know how the class goes with Ride Like a Pro. I teach a similar class on the small track at Road America, and I've talked with Jerry Paladino a number of times. Though, I'd like to take his class myself to see how I'd do and what I can learn about me and my VN1600. I can do all the moves on my BMW R1200RT but still practicing on my VN1600.