VBA Leadership Changes

[Jared]

Hey VBA Members,

As we have be going over various trainings for the new VBA leadership, there have been some additional changes that need to be announce. Jay Stephen’s family is expanding and his free time is become less and less and therefore it’s been decided that an alternative president of VBA would be best.

Dave Jesse (Budman) has accepted the position as VBA president. Dave will be a great president for VBA. Dave has in one way or another help with several of VBA’s rallies. He has been leading in the south central region for years and both he and his wife enjoy riding their Vulcans.

At the end of the month this change will be finalized. Dave Jesse (Budman) will be the new VBA President with Amin Bakri (Rasta) as the Vice President. Can everyone please show your support to these two as they lead VBA.

Best,
Jared

[Bud2rat]

Congrats Dave for the promotion and congrats to Jay on the new family addition.

[VulcanE]

Congrats to everyone, and I would like to thank Jared & Jay for their service. I believe Dave & Amin will do a great job filling the positions.

[Framer]

Congrats Dave and Amin, I know you'll both do a great job.

[vulcanscott]

Sounds great to Me ! :tup:

[Loafer]

Thank you Jared and Jay, you both did an awesome job. Best wishes to the both of you! :cheers:

Dave and Amin, I wish you both much success in leading this organization of gangsters. :tup::tup:

[OhioVoyager]

Congrats all around, especially on the expansion of the family! No greater joy in life than kids! Your OWN kids, of course, lol!!

[ringadingh]

Congratulations to everyone!!:cheers:

[trip]

Change is inevitable, isn't it? It takes courage to admit and react to change. To me, Jared and Jay are not only showing courage but admitting they both care about the VBA. Care enough to admit that change has caused them to pass the VBA baton only after a couple of years. My thanks to Jared and Jay for their service as Leaders of the VBA. I wish them only the best in everything they do.

As far as their successors, I can't think of anyone any better to lead the VBA than Dave and Amin. It takes a lot of things to be a successful leader. Two traits I think a VBA leader has to have is commitment and patience. I've found that Dave and Amin have those traits and will continue to promote the VBA in such a way as to help it grow and prosper.

I've known Dave for a number of years. He's always been one to get involved and make a difference for everyone in the VBA. I've seen Dave take on some of the most difficult issues and resolve them with dignity and fairness.

I met Amin for the first time at the recent Antler's Rally. I was thoroughly impressed with his people skills and ability to make everyone a part. He loves to ride and help everyone in that effort.

It is my opinion that both of these men carry an attitude that's probably most important as a leader of the VBA... they love their Vulcan Baggers... they love riding and they only want the best for each VBA member!

Congrats to Dave and Amin for taking on the challenge!

Trip

PS. Yep, I still care about the VBA. I still frequent the VBA forum. I keep a loving watch on you guys from behind the curtain. :tup: :cheers:

[JD Hog]

Congratulations to all with many years of future success :cheers: :tup:

[nomadtom69]

Congrats to Dave and Amin

[OldSchool]

Many thanks to Jared and Jay for services rendered. Congratulations to BudMan and Rasta on their new positions. Excellent choices in new leadership. :tup:

[lar]

Congrats Dave and Amin, I am sure you will do a super job an our new leaders.

[blowndodge]

I'm confused?:shrug:

Trip passed the baton and stepped down. Jared stepped down and passed the baton to Jay. Who's really got control of VBA if Jared and or trip is selecting and or picking new presidents? Wouldn't that be Jay's job?

[trip]

I'm confused?:shrug:

Trip passed the baton and stepped down. Jared stepped down and passed the baton to Jay. Who's really got control of VBA if Jared and or trip is selecting and or picking new presidents? Wouldn't that be Jay's job?

Let me try and unconfuse you BD, in third person... Trip had nothing to do with the stepping down of Jared or Jay. Nor did he have anything to do with the passing of the VBA baton to Dave or Amin. Trip is simply saying the selection of Dave and Amin as VBA Pres and VP...is a good one.

[Jared]

I'm confused?:shrug:

Trip passed the baton and stepped down. Jared stepped down and passed the baton to Jay. Who's really got control of VBA if Jared and or trip is selecting and or picking new presidents? Wouldn't that be Jay's job?

And perhaps I can try to unconfuse you a bit more...

In the post a few months ago, announcing the leadership changes, I announced that it would take a few months for the process to be finalized. There are various trainings and procedures that needed to be done. During that time Jay found out his family was growing and decided an alternative president would be best. The original plan was to have everything finalized by the end of Sept, but because of the additional changes, it was postponed until the end of Oct. Since Jay didn't have a chance to officially take over as president it was decided that I'd make the announcement about the change. Hope that clears things up.

[Dave]

Nor did he have anything to do with the passing of the VBA baton to Dave....

I never got a baton?!

[trip]

I never got a baton?!

Did you get a sceptor? Same thang. :cheers:

[Top Cat]

You guys will have to excuse Brad, he gets confused real easy.
You should know that as he bought a Victory :D

[waterman]

Did you get a sceptor? Same thang. :cheers:

I never got a baton?!

He got a Brad. Bad deal if I say so.:lmao:

[waterman]

You guys will have to excuse Brad, he gets confused real easy.
You should know that as he bought a Victory :D

He's from So. Cal. Don't blame a motorcycle on that TC.:tup:

[blowndodge]

I never got a baton?!

Your baton has a shoe on it! :D

[blowndodge]

He's from So. Cal. Don't blame a motorcycle on that TC.:tup:

Still have your man crush I see. You really need to get over it Joel. :P

[blowndodge]

Let me try and unconfuse you BD, in third person... Trip had nothing to do with the stepping down of Jared or Jay. Nor did he have anything to do with the passing of the VBA baton to Dave or Amin. Trip is simply saying the selection of Dave and Amin as VBA Pres and VP...is a good one.

I know I'm not alone in my confusion. But I'll leave that served up softball for someone else to hit out of the park. I'm just wondering what's happened since you walked away and then "gave away" the website? A site that used to promote Kawasaki and regional rallies and national rallies since the President of the site took over?

You all seem to be pretty proud of your promotions and that's nice. I'm sure all 6 of you are slapping each other on the back on how far VBA's progressed since you gave up the leadership Trip. :yep:

[minst7877]

Thanks Jesse and Amin for taking this on. The VBA is in good hands. Thank You Jared and Jay for what you have done the past two years.

DC

[cactusjack]

Congratulations Dave and Amin, I'm sure you'll do a great job.

[Kawhead]

I didn't git no ballot!!!!!! http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/sad/crying.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)

Amin and Dave would've been my choice anywho for buying me so much beer and other libations.

Nomadtom, under those high auspicious terms, would make a fine Secretary of State.http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif


Congratulations Y'all!!!!! http://www.pic4ever.com/images/congratualtions.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/springsmile.gif

[Rasta]

Thanks. I am sure Dave will do a great job. He has already started cleaning some things and adding some much needed updates.
It was suggested by Jared for Jay to make the announcement but we felt, including jay, that Jared make the announcement since he was still the president and Jay had not taken over yet.
Trip had no idea this was happening until we met in Antlers and let him know what the plan was. He did come talk to me when I was alone to ask me if this was something I really wanted to do. My answer was that I was asked and after talking to my wife I was willing to help out as the vice.
There will be nah Sayers with whatever choices are made so that was expected and I would have been very disappointed if that wasn't the case. That tells me that people are still passionate about this group even though it might not look or sound like it...... even if they have moved on to other brands, they still care what's happening here.
Thanks for the well wishes from most of you. I am sure since we will be making the big bucks now , we will have to run this shift with a tight fist.

[Rasta]

Nomadtom for Secretary of Health.... oh wait or was that Secretary of State?

[blowndodge]

I know I will be proved wrong once again as we look forward to the next location of the southwest regional rally in 2016!!:tup:

[trip]

I know I'm not alone in my confusion. But I'll leave that served up softball for someone else to hit out of the park. I'm just wondering what's happened since you walked away and then "gave away" the website? A site that used to promote Kawasaki and regional rallies and national rallies since the President of the site took over?

You all seem to be pretty proud of your promotions and that's nice. I'm sure all 6 of you are slapping each other on the back on how far VBA's progressed since you gave up the leadership Trip. :yep:

As usual... you've formed your opinions from hearsay, BD. Try getting the facts straight and let's try this again. But, let's keep things on the positive side, shall we? :tup:

[BudMan]

You all seem to be pretty proud of your promotions and that's nice.
I'm sure all 6 of you are slapping each other on the back on how far VBA's progressed since you gave up the leadership Trip. :yep:
Seem pretty proud? I don't believe I've mentioned it.

[stretch]

Congrats to Dave and Amin! Thanks to Jared and Jay! All four of you are great leaders for the VBA.

[Kawhead]

Let me try and unconfuse you BD, in third person... Trip had nothing to do with the stepping down of Jared or Jay. Nor did he have anything to do with the passing of the VBA baton to Dave or Amin. Trip is simply saying the selection of Dave and Amin as VBA Pres and VP...is a good one.

And perhaps I can try to unconfuse you a bit more...

In the post a few months ago, announcing the leadership changes, I announced that it would take a few months for the process to be finalized. There are various trainings and procedures that needed to be done. During that time Jay found out his family was growing and decided an alternative president would be best. The original plan was to have everything finalized by the end of Sept, but because of the additional changes, it was postponed until the end of Oct. Since Jay didn't have a chance to officially take over as president it was decided that I'd make the announcement about the change. Hope that clears things up.

Y'all know what they say about arguing with an idiot.:D

They was one time many decade ago when my kids found an orphaned baby squirrel. It was sickly and we did a little research on the net and nursed it back to health and made a pet of him.

Then there came a day when my not so brilliant wife and I were sitting on the couch, when the squirrel jumps from the book case to the back of the couch. Well, she wiggles her fingers and scratches the couch, playing with him.The squirrel runs down the back and across the top. This goes on for about five minutes when she grabs one of his hind legs and makes him squeal. I told her, "Honey, that ain't a good idea. He's a wild animal and not domesticated like a dog or cat". She make a goofy face at me and keeps playing with him. She makes him squeak a few more times, and I again to no avail I attempt appeal to her high pinnacle of intellect.:ohno:

Finally she screams! He bit the piss out of her through her finger! :lmao:

That little bitty squirrel with a brain less than the size of a butter bean conveyed the primitive reasoning she could finally comprehend.

Then, they's this other story about the time she took a kitten outside and my three black labs ran up to her growling and barking to get it. The kitten was clawing and scratching and she couldn't throw it down! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

[Kawhead]

As usual... you've formed your opinions from hearsay, BD. Try getting the facts and let's try this again. But, let's keep things on the positive side, shall we? :tup:

"Some men, you just cain't reach........"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBBWUZfgRiw

[trip]

:lmao: :cheers:

[blowndodge]

Seem pretty proud? I don't believe I've mentioned it.

That wasn't meant for Amin or you Dave. Actually I'm pleased as you two are by far mor involved in the VBA than the rest!

[blowndodge]

Y'all know what they say about arguing with an idiot.:D

They was one time many decade ago when my kids found an orphaned baby squirrel. It was sickly and we did a little research on the net and nursed it back to health and made a pet of him.

Then there came a day when my not so brilliant wife and I were sitting on the couch, when the squirrel jumps from the book case to the back of the couch. Well, she wiggles her fingers and scratches the couch, playing with him.The squirrel runs down the back and across the top. This goes on for about five minutes when she grabs one of his hind legs and makes him squeal. I told her, "Honey, that ain't a good idea. He's a wild animal and not domesticated like a dog or cat". She make a goofy face at me and keeps playing with him. She makes him squeak a few more times, and I again to no avail I attempt appeal to her high pinnacle of intellect.:ohno:

Finally she screams! He bit the piss out of her through her finger! :lmao:

That little bitty squirrel with a brain less than the size of a butter bean conveyed the primitive reasoning she could finally comprehend.

Then, they's this other story about the time she took a kitten outside and my three black labs ran up to her growling and barking to get it. The kitten was clawing and scratching and she couldn't throw it down! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

See??? She should have just been content with promoting the squirrel!:lmao:

[blowndodge]

As usual... you've formed your opinions from hearsay, BD. Try getting the facts straight and let's try this again. But, let's keep things on the positive side, shall we? :tup:

That's hard to do sometimes Trip when all those sitting at the table are timid to say the meal taste like crap. Trust BD (3rd person) I'm not the minority in speaking about it. Just more vocal. In time more members will start their own group (Like I did) and go it alone. I feel even then this forum wont see the writing on the wall.

[BudMan]

That's hard to do sometimes Trip when all those sitting at the table are timid to say the meal taste like crap. Trust BD (3rd person) I'm not the minority in speaking about it. Just more vocal. In time more members will start their own group (Like I did) and go it alone. I feel even then this forum wont see the writing on the wall.

I'll agree the forum and the VBA isn't like it was when I joined.
But as I've said before, for the most part it's what the members make it.
If people are involved and participate both on the forum and at rallies the VBA has a real value.
I recently posted a question about dates for the 2016 South Central Rally.
Not one response. I can't make people interested. I wish I could.
Hopefully the members that have been here a long time and are still active on the group will continue to be,
and hopefully those that aren't will regain an interest.
Of course it will also require newer members to get involved.
To me it's the rallies that are important. That part of the VBA is what has meant the most to me.
I don't know what the future holds. But I will do what I can to help the VBA.

[trip]

That's hard to do sometimes Trip when all those sitting at the table are timid to say the meal taste like crap. Trust BD (3rd person) I'm not the minority in speaking about it. Just more vocal. In time more members will start their own group (Like I did) and go it alone. I feel even then this forum wont see the writing on the wall.

While I certainly don't mind a good debate or discussing issues with you BD, discussing innuendo's is not going to get us anywhere. I respect you (and always have) for the ideals you hold, feelings and opinions you have for the VBA.

I know that you realize that nothing is perfect... and the VBA and how things have been done in the past is not perfect. It's not anyone's fault, it's just they way things are.

But, we all strive to try and make things as fair and equitable as possible. Sometimes things don't work out that way. So, do you want to keep bringing up crap from the past or do you want to move on? I say, let's move on.

To be honest, you and everyone else has the right to move on and start your own group doing anything. It's a free country (or at least last check I thought it was). And to be honest again, if you've started your own group and want to go it alone, what are you doing hanging around here for?

Take your knowledge and wisdom of motorcycles and make the world a better place for all of us. You are very talented mechanically, but you need to quit throwing crap on the walls here. Forgive, forget and move on BD. The hate and negativity will consume you sooner or later.

Just my 2 cents worth.

So, from here on out, if you keep bringing up the past, I'll assume you're just wanting attention and don't really want a resolution to anything. But, if you want to stick around, jump in and help with a positive attitude and try to makes things better like the rest of us, I'll assume we're moving on with greater things on the horizon. It's up to you, my friend.

[cliffordgos]

He's from So. Cal. Don't blame a motorcycle on that TC.:tup:

HEY JOEL!

Don't go blaming SoCal!

In my life some of the Smartest and Best looking people that I have met, are from SoCal.

[cliffordgos]

"Some men, you just cain't reach........"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBBWUZfgRiw

I like this version better because It has music in it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45oFGT7i4xo

[Kawhead]

See??? She should have just been content with promoting the squirrel!:lmao:I should have married a squirrel, or a monkey, or a sheep or something. I'd have so much more money and orthodox folks Blood Pressure!:ohno:

The only thing I was worried about was folks making sport at me for riding around with a sheep riding bitch. Gave into Peer Pressure.:shrug:
Mark my wise words, someday that behavior will become acceptable, and them that dare speak up or protest will be protested and mocked as bigots and their businesses or livelihood shut down.:yep:

I'm too old to start up another demented movement. Gonna pass that baton on to the young-uns. Let them be proud of themselves and slap each other on the backs and pat their sheep. :D
And be rich. :shrug:

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/fly2.gif

[Kawhead]

While I certainly don't mind a good debate or discussing issues with you BD, discussing innuendo's is not going to get us anywhere. I respect you (and always have) for the ideals you hold, feelings and opinions you have for the VBA.

I know that you realize that nothing is perfect... and the VBA and how things have been done in the past is not perfect. It's not anyone's fault, it's just they way things are.

But, we all strive to try and make things as fair and equitable as possible. Sometimes things don't work out that way. So, do you want to keep bringing up crap from the past or do you want to move on? I say, let's move on.

To be honest, you and everyone else has the right to move on and start your own group doing anything. It's a free country (or at least last check I thought it was). And to be honest again, if you've started your own group and want to go it alone, what are you doing hanging around here for?

Take your knowledge and wisdom of motorcycles and make the world a better place for all of us. You are very talented mechanically, but you need to quit throwing crap on the walls here. Forgive, forget and move on BD. The hate and negativity will consume you sooner or later.

Just my 2 cents worth.

So, from here on out, if you keep bringing up the past, I'll assume you're just wanting attention and don't really want a resolution to anything. But, if you want to stick around, jump in and help with a positive attitude and try to makes things better like the rest of us, I'll assume we're moving on with greater things on the horizon. It's up to you, my friend.

If I may, sometime I think I detect a slight misdiagnosed psychotic jilted prom date tone. :hmm:

Could be wrong though. :shrug:

:D

[JD Hog]

HEY JOEL!

Don't go blaming SoCal!

In my life some of the Smartest and Best looking people that I have met, are from SoCal.

Why thank you Cliff, I'm from SoCal :yep:

[cliffordgos]

Why thank you Cliff, I'm from SoCal :yep:

BOOM! Point Made!

[Dave]

Your baton has a shoe on it! :D


I make a great pirate this Halloween.

[waterman]

HEY JOEL!

Don't go blaming SoCal!

In my life some of the Smartest and Best looking people that I have met, are from SoCal.

Ok. There is that small percentage. Most of the people I knew in California said all the smart ones left.:lmao:

[Dave]

In my life some of the Smartest and Best looking people that I have met, are from SoCal.

It's been a heavy burden to shoulder my whole life!

[Kawhead]

Your baton has a shoe on it! :D
Oh, is there no foul depth into putrid depravity to which we shan't sink? http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs3867689.gif

[blowndodge]

While I certainly don't mind a good debate or discussing issues with you BD, discussing innuendo's is not going to get us anywhere. I respect you (and always have) for the ideals you hold, feelings and opinions you have for the VBA.

I know that you realize that nothing is perfect... and the VBA and how things have been done in the past is not perfect. It's not anyone's fault, it's just they way things are.

But, we all strive to try and make things as fair and equitable as possible. Sometimes things don't work out that way. So, do you want to keep bringing up crap from the past or do you want to move on? I say, let's move on.

To be honest, you and everyone else has the right to move on and start your own group doing anything. It's a free country (or at least last check I thought it was). And to be honest again, if you've started your own group and want to go it alone, what are you doing hanging around here for?

Take your knowledge and wisdom of motorcycles and make the world a better place for all of us. You are very talented mechanically, but you need to quit throwing crap on the walls here. Forgive, forget and move on BD. The hate and negativity will consume you sooner or later.

Just my 2 cents worth.

So, from here on out, if you keep bringing up the past, I'll assume you're just wanting attention and don't really want a resolution to anything. But, if you want to stick around, jump in and help with a positive attitude and try to makes things better like the rest of us, I'll assume we're moving on with greater things on the horizon. It's up to you, my friend.

Me thinks I might have struck a nerve Robert. If you think I'm after attention then I can't help ya there. I ride with many members that havent had an issue riding with me. If you think moving on to greater things is discussing a 16 year old Nomad's plastic oil gear then best of luck with that.

At your recommendation ill take your sound advice about ending my membership.

[Kawhead]

While I certainly don't mind a good debate or discussing issues with you BD, discussing innuendo's is not going to get us anywhere. I respect you (and always have) for the ideals you hold, feelings and opinions you have for the VBA.

I know that you realize that nothing is perfect... and the VBA and how things have been done in the past is not perfect. It's not anyone's fault, it's just they way things are.

But, we all strive to try and make things as fair and equitable as possible. Sometimes things don't work out that way. So, do you want to keep bringing up crap from the past or do you want to move on? I say, let's move on.

To be honest, you and everyone else has the right to move on and start your own group doing anything. It's a free country (or at least last check I thought it was). And to be honest again, if you've started your own group and want to go it alone, what are you doing hanging around here for?

Take your knowledge and wisdom of motorcycles and make the world a better place for all of us. You are very talented mechanically, but you need to quit throwing crap on the walls here. Forgive, forget and move on BD. The hate and negativity will consume you sooner or later.

Just my 2 cents worth.

So, from here on out, if you keep bringing up the past, I'll assume you're just wanting attention and don't really want a resolution to anything. But, if you want to stick around, jump in and help with a positive attitude and try to makes things better like the rest of us, I'll assume we're moving on with greater things on the horizon. It's up to you, my friend.
:wave: I got three pretty good guesses. Arranged first as most likely, descending to least likely:

(a) The group will become the "Ultimate Motorbike Association" to which only a hand picked, nice shirt wearing, cognac swirling, fine cigar puffin, privileged few could aspire to become members.

(b) The group will be like the flip-flop, baggy shorts and jersey wearing young-uns on the sport bikes.

(c) First he'd declare himself Royal Omnipotent Potentate, attracting members of like peculiar idiosyncrasies. This highly regarded omniscient, very talented, mechanic's membership would badger, bitch, and worry the living hell out of him and each other (providing relief to their usual victims) and run him out of what's left of funkin' mind!
They would have some fine Cigars and Cognac and expensive shirts.:D

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif
At any rate or scenario, my less than educated guess is the group would become defunct soon after the first rally. :shrug:

'Twas Good Ol' Kawhead who warned a few years ago, BD he was incrementally becoming like the personages banished to his "Ignore" list and once his transformation was completed us privileged few on the "Allowed" list would become banished heaps to the "Ignore" list, and there'd be no means of saving him.

No one would listen.:shrug:

[Kawhead]

Me thinks I might have struck a nerve Robert. If you think I'm after attention then I can't help ya there. I ride with many members that havent had an issue riding with me. If you think moving on to greater things is discussing a 16 year old Nomad's plastic oil gear then best of luck with that.

At your recommendation ill take your sound advice about ending my membership.I agree with the silent gentleman from SoCal.
You barely hear a peep out of 'im.

A live and let live kinda folk he is. :yep:

[Kawhead]

Me thinks I might have struck a nerve Robert. If you think I'm after attention then I can't help ya there. I ride with many members that havent had an issue riding with me. If you think moving on to greater things is discussing a 16 year old Nomad's plastic oil gear then best of luck with that.

"Yellow"At your recommendation ill take your sound advice about ending my membership

Kawhead harkens back to an Andy Giffith Show from yesteryear.



http://www.tubechop.com/watch/7069756 http://www.pic4ever.com/images/245.gif

Don't leave Dodge, you're too loved and appreciated up in here,http://www.pic4ever.com/images/999.gif besides you the only thing to boil Trip's blood when it needs boiling. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif

I bet two minutes with you gets Trip and a few other people you know heart rates up like doing twenty minutes on a tread mill. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/th_running1.gif

You like a human Cardio Glide.

[MAS Tequila]

I thought we were supposed to discuss things like the POG on a 16 year old bike.

On another site I've been helping a new owner resurrect a 99 Drifter 1500.

We've been working through Mick's problems with a 17 year old Nomad.

We've been discussing Progressive fork springs and shocks.

What are we supposed to talk about, Victory's?

This is the Vulcan Bagger Association, afterall.

I went to the VROC reunion last month, mainly because 2 friends were getting married.

MaKaw has pulled the majority of their support furnishing raffle goods.

Why?

Many believe it's because there are more Hondas and Harleys than Vulcans.

Is someone who doesn't own a Vulcan has a problem with this Vulcan site...WTF!

I'm here because of my passion for my Vulcans, all 3 of them.

The 13 year old Nomad that is almost completely restored.

The 20 year old A model that I'm not sure which direction to go with.

And the 9 year old 500 that I got for my dad.

This site has become what VROC used to be, someplace where owners share information and experiences related to their Vulcans.

Yes, we do welcome members who moved on to other brands, but the focus here still is our Vulcans.

If you want a 'social' group there's FaceBook for that.

This was not directed at one specific individual, but rather the underlying issue brought up.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just please, don't insult our organization.

MT

[jestephens]

The end result is two people passionate about the brand and bike(s) are still heads of the association. Dave and Amin are willing and able to carry the torch forward. Jared and I were at the top for a bit, but it's no secret life has changed a lot for both of our families during that time and we agreed the association would be better served by someone else.
I think Dave and Amin will do great, hopefully even better than us before them.

[Cajunrider]

Congratulations Dave and Amin. Very wise choice of leadership. Thanks Jared and Jay.

[The Black Knight]

Congratulations Dave and Amin, I'm sure you'll do a great job.:cheers::cheers:
Thanks Jared and Jay for all you have done for VBA.:tup::tup:

[Kawhead]

I thought we were supposed to discuss things like the POG on a 16 year old bike.

On another site I've been helping a new owner resurrect a 99 Drifter 1500.

We've been working through Mick's problems with a 17 year old Nomad.

We've been discussing Progressive fork springs and shocks.

What are we supposed to talk about, Victory's?

This is the Vulcan Bagger Association, afterall.

I went to the VROC reunion last month, mainly because 2 friends were getting married.

MaKaw has pulled the majority of their support furnishing raffle goods.

Why?

Many believe it's because there are more Hondas and Harleys than Vulcans.

Is someone who doesn't own a Vulcan has a problem with this Vulcan site...WTF!

I'm here because of my passion for my Vulcans, all 3 of them.

The 13 year old Nomad that is almost completely restored.

The 20 year old A model that I'm not sure which direction to go with.

And the 9 year old 500 that I got for my dad.

This site has become what VROC used to be, someplace where owners share information and experiences related to their Vulcans.

Yes, we do welcome members who moved on to other brands, but the focus here still is our Vulcans.

If you want a 'social' group there's FaceBook for that.

This was not directed at one specific individual, but rather the underlying issue brought up.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just please, don't insult our organization.

MTThere's not a mean bone in that huge gelatinous body.
More than anything, he loves stirring the pudding from time to time. :D

Insults shouldn't bother anybody if they ain't true, I been short, fat and black my whole life and bullies use to take my lunch money. :D

The end result is two people passionate about the brand and bike(s) are still heads of the association. Dave and Amin are willing and able to carry the torch forward. Jared and I were at the top for a bit, but it's no secret life has changed a lot for both of our families during that time and we agreed the association would be better served by someone else.
I think Dave and Amin will do great, hopefully even better than us before them.Y'all couldn't have picked two better members Both of those guys are people people and pretty dern smart.
Y'all shoulda appointed Threewheeler Master At Arms. Her feminine essence could provide a loving female approach toward quelling bickering.:D

She gits stuff did. :yep:

:D

[Kawhead]

The end result is two people passionate about the brand and bike(s) are still heads of the association. Dave and Amin are willing and able to carry the torch forward. Jared and I were at the top for a bit, but it's no secret life has changed a lot for both of our families during that time and we agreed the association would be better served by someone else.
I think Dave and Amin will do great, hopefully even better than us before them.

Just askin'. Y'all ain't fixing to get Crotch Rockets and Wings are you? :hmm:

Other members wanted to know, not me. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/hanghead.gif

[blowndodge]

I thought we were supposed to discuss things like the POG on a 16 year old bike.

On another site I've been helping a new owner resurrect a 99 Drifter 1500.

We've been working through Mick's problems with a 17 year old Nomad.

We've been discussing Progressive fork springs and shocks.

What are we supposed to talk about, Victory's?

This is the Vulcan Bagger Association, afterall.

I went to the VROC reunion last month, mainly because 2 friends were getting married.

MaKaw has pulled the majority of their support furnishing raffle goods.

Why?

Many believe it's because there are more Hondas and Harleys than Vulcans.

Is someone who doesn't own a Vulcan has a problem with this Vulcan site...WTF!

I'm here because of my passion for my Vulcans, all 3 of them.

The 13 year old Nomad that is almost completely restored.

The 20 year old A model that I'm not sure which direction to go with.

And the 9 year old 500 that I got for my dad.

This site has become what VROC used to be, someplace where owners share information and experiences related to their Vulcans.

Yes, we do welcome members who moved on to other brands, but the focus here still is our Vulcans.

If you want a 'social' group there's FaceBook for that.

This was not directed at one specific individual, but rather the underlying issue brought up.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just please, don't insult our organization.

MT

You missed my point completely. I re-read this and all it reminded me of was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wo1-sI7MOQ

[Kawhead]

You sly dawg. I knew you couldn't leave.http://www.pic4ever.com/images/rollingf.gif

Like my wife and girl friend wont leave me either. I'm too damned charming, virile, vigorous, potent, fantastic in the sack and give 'em a lotta money. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/acigar.gif

[joeykid]

Congratulations all around guys the family and positions.

[jestephens]

Just askin'. Y'all ain't fixing to get Crotch Rockets and Wings are you? :hmm:

Other members wanted to know, not me. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/hanghead.gif

Yes, Both. :lmao: I plan on hauling my rocket around on a trailer behind the Wing, while the wife and kiddos follow in the Subaru

[Rasta]

From a 1936 book The Best Loved Poems of the American People called: Judged by the company one keeps:

One night in late October,
when I was far from sober,
Returning with my load, with manly pride;
My feet began to stutter,
So I lay down in the gutter,
And a pig came up an’ lay down by my side;
A lady passing by was heard to say:
‘You can tell a man who “boozes”
by the company he chooses’
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.

[Kawhead]

From a 1936 book The Best Loved Poems of the American People called: Judged by the company one keeps:

One night in late October,
when I was far from sober,
Returning with my load, with manly pride;
My feet began to stutter,
So I lay down in the gutter,
And a pig came up an’ lay down by my side;
A lady passing by was heard to say:
‘You can tell a man who “boozes”
by the company he chooses’
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.Silent Sam willed you his pills, there Rasta eah. :wtf:

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/oregonian_winesmiley.gif

[Rasta]

Silent Sam willed you his pills, there Rasta eah. :wtf:

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/oregonian_winesmiley.gif



Cant say! Don't want to get him in trouble in motorcycle heaven :D. I might share the next time I see ya' if you keep it hash, hash!

[Kawhead]

Cant say! Don't want to get him in trouble in motorcycle heaven :D. I might share the next time I see ya' if you keep it hash, hash!
Hash, hash indeed! http://www.pic4ever.com/images/128fs318181.gif


My favorite poem is from a 1933 Three Stooges Show:

"Little fly upon the wall,
ain't ya got no clothes at all?
Ain't ya got no shimmy shirt?
Ain't ya got no petti-skirt?
Boo fly, ain't ya cold?"

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/oregonian_winesmiley.gif

[trip]

Yes, Both. :lmao: I plan on hauling my rocket around on a trailer behind the Wing, while the wife and kiddos follow in the Subaru

:lmao: :lmao:

[trip]

Me thinks I might have struck a nerve Robert. If you think I'm after attention then I can't help ya there. I ride with many members that havent had an issue riding with me. If you think moving on to greater things is discussing a 16 year old Nomad's plastic oil gear then best of luck with that.

At your recommendation ill take your sound advice about ending my membership.

No nerves struck here, Brad. Just wanting you to get off the fence and do one thing or another... it's time to get a resolution. When you finally figure out that this is about you and your attitude toward the VBA and not me or anyone else, you'll be a better person.

At any rate... good luck with everything BD. I look forward to seeing you at a rally or get-together and seeing that Victory Cross Country in the future. :tup:

[glwilson]

Hey VBA Members,

As we have be going over various trainings for the new VBA leadership, there have been some additional changes that need to be announce. Jay Stephen’s family is expanding and his free time is become less and less and therefore it’s been decided that an alternative president of VBA would be best.

Dave Jesse (Budman) has accepted the position as VBA president. Dave will be a great president for VBA. Dave has in one way or another help with several of VBA’s rallies. He has been leading in the south central region for years and both he and his wife enjoy riding their Vulcans.

At the end of the month this change will be finalized. Dave Jesse (Budman) will be the new VBA President with Amin Bakri (Rasta) as the Vice President. Can everyone please show your support to these two as they lead VBA.

Best,
Jared


Congratulations to Dave for becoming the President. There is simply not a better choice, in my book, for the position. :cheers:

I can already see some of the things he is doing. It will only get better.

[Kawhead]

Oh yeah, didn't you read the Reuters AP release a couple days ago?

One twirls a baton to another one, that one twirls the baton to another one like abuncha little girl cheer leaders!http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif

Now this noble bunch of PROUD self-absorbed egomaniacal butt monkeys are standing around holding their POGS in one hand slapping each other on the fannies with the other.
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/t2.gif

One made another on president 'cause he helped at a rally! BFD!!!! Whadiddy do? Oh, I remember, he was one of the ten that showed up at the last rally and open a camping chair for you! HOW SWEET!!!!

This place ain't what it use to be!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


What a Motorcycle Rally. Five bikes and ten butt sniffing guys standing 'round drinking Michelob Light!!!!!http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

This place ain't what it use to be!!!!!!!


I triple dawg dare anybody to double dawg dare me to leave!!!
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/swearing/i-hate-you-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)


http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/evil-laugh-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)http://www.pic4ever.com/images/oregonian_winesmiley.gif

[Rasta]

Congratulations to Dave for becoming the President. There is simply not a better choice, in my book, for the position. :cheers:

I can already see some of the things he is doing. It will only get better.



I couldn't agree with you any more !!

[Rasta]

Oh yeah, didn't you read the Reuters AP release a couple days ago?

One twirls a baton to another one, that one twirls the baton to another one like abuncha little girl cheer leaders!http://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/19.gif

Now this noble bunch of PROUD self-absorbed egomaniacal butt monkeys are standing around holding their POGS in one hand slapping each other on the fannies with the other.
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/t2.gif

One made another on president 'cause he helped at a rally! BFD!!!! Whadiddy do? Oh, I remember, he was one of the ten that showed up at the last rally and open a camping chair for you! HOW SWEET!!!!

This place ain't what it use to be!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


What a Motorcycle Rally. Five bikes and ten butt sniffing guys standing 'round drinking Michelob Light!!!!!http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sick015.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

This place ain't what it use to be!!!!!!!


I triple dawg dare anybody to double dawg dare me to leave!!!
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/swearing/i-hate-you-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)


http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/evil-laugh-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/)http://www.pic4ever.com/images/oregonian_winesmiley.gif



I double dawg and triple mouse dare you to leave!!

[Kawhead]

I double dawg and triple mouse dare you to leave!!

:lmao::cheers:

[talon]

Congrats Dave, good choices. Also, congrats to Jay for the extended family. Best Wishes.

[spil99]

Congrats to Dave and Amin! Thanks to Jared and Jay.

[Badger: Black Hills]

As I read through these posts I am dismayed by some of what I see (other than the ones praising the new leaders, who I think are great choices). It has been said that this forum is not what it used to be. That's right. It is no longer an exclusive place where Nomad riders can get together and share insights. Even though I never posted often it was a joy to get on here and learn something or make contact with new friends. Unfortunately what was unique, friendly and supportive when it was KawNow has become occasionally a sniping contest. We are now the Vulcan Baggers Association, which is fine. But for whatever reason we are more accurately the Various Baggers Association. I can understand why riders who have moved away from Vulcans to other bikes want to continue to meet with their friends. And that's great, I enjoy seeing them. What I can't understand is why some of those who have left the Vulcan family feel comfortable in complaining or putting down those who have stayed loyal to the brand. I enjoy seeing friends at rallies even if they don't still ride a Vulcan. But if they can't accept the fact that this is a Vulcan riders' forum then sadly, perhaps they should stop taking part. I do have a fix for this: STAY ON TOPIC.

[racinfan101]

Congratulations to Dave and Amin, and thank you to Jay, and Jared for all your efforts! My guess is the "baton" may not be a simple thing to pass with much for Jared and Jay to teach, and a lot for Dave and Amin to learn on all the behind the scenes stuff. No matter though the VBA is in good hands.

[blowndodge]

As I read through these posts (other than the ones praising the new leaders, who I think are great choices) I am dismayed by some of what I see. It has been said that this forum is not what it used to be. That's right. It is no longer an exclusive place where Nomad riders can get together and share insights. Even though I never posted often it was a joy to get on here and learn something or make contact with new friends. Unfortunately what was unique, friendly and supportive when it was KawNow has become occasionally a sniping contest. We are now the Vulcan Baggers Association, which is fine. But for whatever reason we are more accurately the Various Baggers Association. I can understand why riders who have moved away from Vulcans to other bikes want to continue to meet with their friends. And that's great, I enjoy seeing them. What I can't understand is why some of those who have left the Vulcan family feel comfortable in complaining or putting down those who have stayed loyal to the brand. I enjoy seeing friends at rallies even if they don't still ride a Vulcan. But if they can't accept the fact that this is a Vulcan riders' forum then sadly, perhaps they should stop taking part. I do have a fix for this: STAY ON TOPIC.

Badger, Brand loyalty does not make a biker. I take lots of shots here about my Victory. Its all ok. Thats what we do. BTW you can find the Various Baggers Association on Facebook!:tup:

[BudMan]

As I read through these posts (other than the ones praising the new leaders, who I think are great choices) I am dismayed by some of what I see. It has been said that this forum is not what it used to be. That's right. It is no longer an exclusive place where Nomad riders can get together and share insights. Even though I never posted often it was a joy to get on here and learn something or make contact with new friends. Unfortunately what was unique, friendly and supportive when it was KawNow has become occasionally a sniping contest. We are now the Vulcan Baggers Association, which is fine. But for whatever reason we are more accurately the Various Baggers Association. I can understand why riders who have moved away from Vulcans to other bikes want to continue to meet with their friends. And that's great, I enjoy seeing them. What I can't understand is why some of those who have left the Vulcan family feel comfortable in complaining or putting down those who have stayed loyal to the brand. I enjoy seeing friends at rallies even if they don't still ride a Vulcan. But if they can't accept the fact that this is a Vulcan riders' forum then sadly, perhaps they should stop taking part. I do have a fix for this: STAY ON TOPIC.

Badger, Brand loyalty does not make a biker. I take lits of shots here about my Victory. Its all ok. Thats what we do. BTW you can find the Various Baggers Association on Facebook!:tup:

Nothing in Noel's post led me to believe he was suggesting that brand loyalty made a biker.

[Netnorske]

LOL....I have not checked in here in a very long time, other than following posts regarding upcoming gatherings. For anyone who was around at the beginning of KawaNow...taking shots at other members was part and parcel of the forum. It was all done in a brotherly loving way, and he who could twist the knife the deepest usually took home the trophy. It took a bit of time for me to understand and get comfortable with that, and maybe longer to truly become a part of it, but in the end it made for some great relationships that last to this day.

What this place was or is....is decided only by those who participate...in the rallies and gatherings especially. For only then do the verbal jabs really count, when you have met your proverbial adversary face to face and shared road miles, beers, cocktails, cigars, but most important of all...many laughs...:yep:. I don't know why more people don't truly participate, but it is what it is. Over time, I have drifted away from the forums and gone more to the regular social media. Easier to keep tabs on those who are truly important in my life....just sayin'...:cheers:.
Oh...and congrats to Dave and Amin....I think.....:cheers::D!

[blowndodge]

Nothing in Noel's post led me to believe he was suggesting that brand loyalty made a biker.

Flew right by ya... :hmm:

[Rasta]

Nothing in Noel's post led me to believe he was suggesting that brand loyalty made a biker.

We all know a true biker rides a Harley or is the a Hardley ? :P

[cnc]

We all know a true biker rides a Harley or is the a Hardley ? :P
And they can't spell either! :lmao:

[Rasta]

And they can't spell either! :lmao:

Well I don't have a Harley but I do know how not to spell so that must make me a half ass biker :D. Now where is that Harley??

[blowndodge]

Which half??? :D

[Rasta]

Which half??? :D

The ASS half :lol:

[waterman]

The ASS half :lol:

The other half of the ass to BD?:cheers:

[blowndodge]

The other half of the ass to BD?:cheers:

That's called the "Joel half" :lmao:

[cnc]

Ah, conjoined twins sharing one anus, was wondering why you put up with each others crap.:lmao::lmao:

[blowndodge]

Ah, conjoined twins sharing one anus, was wondering why you put up with each others crap.:lmao::lmao:

Ah I had some Norm conjoined twins after my morning coffee. :D

[JPB]

Congrats Dave and Amin and thanks for stepping up.