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cruiser900
09-14-2014, 07:40 AM
I just adapted a Jagg FP-2600 10 row hyperflow 2 pass oil cooler with a WeatherTek fan and thermostat control to my 2013 Vulcan Voyager.

I modified an M20 x 1.5 thread aluminum universal oil filter/cooler bypass 'sandwich' adapter to fit.

I found on eBay a 751-FP2600 kit that a guy bought and didn't use. ($300) I scrapped the two piece oil filter adapter that came with the kit. Then took a universal one piece 'sandwich' adapter ($20 on eBay) and worked it on my bench mount grinding wheel to reduce its circumference to nearly that of the filter. One side tap I plugged and ground smooth, in the other I placed the thermostat. A little careful dremel work to the engine case was necessary.

I fabricated a cross bar and welded a flange on each end, into which I drilled holes. It spans the inside measurement between the engine guard/lowers bolts. I painted it black. I hung the cooler with the kit's Uralite mounts, attached the fan wires to the thermostat and tapped for power. 3/8 ths inch ID hose, clamps, a half a quart of oil and ......no leaks.

As far as temperature lowering in real numbers I haven't a clue, I have no method of measuring the complete effect outside of the water temp gauge. Along with the two black plastic friction fit gap covers I made to close the space between the lowers and the radiator ( they funnel the wind blast directly into the radiator ) my operating temps on an 80 degree day above 35 mph have dropped a mark and a half.

I will take pix when I can next week.

VulcanE
09-14-2014, 08:34 AM
I like to see people who "think outside of the box", and fab things up to solve a problem they may be having. Any cooling at all will be better than before. When you take pics, have a few showing different angles, I'd like to see it.

VulcanE
09-14-2014, 08:36 AM
BTW, welcome to the forum, go by the "new member intro section" and introduce yourself.

recumbentbob
09-14-2014, 09:08 AM
A dip stick thermometer will give you some info.
You do not want your oil temp below 180 degree F.
What is the oil thermostat supposed to open at?

cnc
09-14-2014, 09:48 AM
Sounds like an interesting project, post lots of pic's.

ringadingh
09-14-2014, 10:23 AM
Welcome aboard!It sounds like you did a creative job of making something work. send a pic when you can.

smbke
09-14-2014, 11:20 AM
Greetings from Las Vegas! Sounds like an ambitious project!

cruiser900
09-14-2014, 01:03 PM
I think that the two-plus hours hunched over the grinding wheel was the most ambitious part of getting the 'sandwich' down to size. The oil filter location does not have much space, as it is nestled so tightly to the block.

Silent Sam
09-14-2014, 03:55 PM
Welcome from the sun set slope of The High Sierra's..

I'm engineering a similar engine oil cooler for my 02 Nomad...using a oil filter mount, adapter (for a honda car)..the only "machining"..so far has been to -bench grind- a small slot along the outter edge of the adapter housing, to clear the real brake hose, as it's 'tight" along side the oil filter mount and where the brake line runs past on the frame...

Looks like we BOTH need to post some photo's...

cruiser900
09-14-2014, 10:55 PM
A dip stick thermometer will give you some info.
You do not want your oil temp below 180 degree F.
What is the oil thermostat supposed to open at?


Do you have a source and/or part number for the thermometer dipstick?

With a readable scale this could be interesting to use.

ringadingh
09-14-2014, 10:58 PM
Can you use a dipstick thermometer on that 1700 motor? On the 1500/1600 motors the clutch is right below the filler plug.

recumbentbob
09-15-2014, 05:36 AM
Do you have a source and/or part number for the thermometer dipstick?

With a readable scale this could be interesting to use.
It's in this thread: http://www.vulcanbagger.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34690

cruiser900
09-15-2014, 07:10 PM
I just adapted a Jagg FP-2600 10 row hyperflow 2 pass oil cooler with a WeatherTek fan and thermostat control to my 2013 Vulcan Voyager.

I modified an M20 x 1.5 thread aluminum universal oil filter/cooler bypass 'sandwich' adapter to fit.

I found on eBay a 751-FP2600 kit that a guy bought and didn't use. ($300) I scrapped the two piece oil filter adapter that came with the kit. Then took a universal one piece 'sandwich' adapter ($20 on eBay) and worked it on my bench mount grinding wheel to reduce its circumference to nearly that of the filter. One side tap I plugged and ground smooth, in the other I placed the thermostat. A little careful dremel work to the engine case was necessary.

I fabricated a cross bar and welded a flange on each end, into which I drilled holes. It spans the inside measurement between the engine guard/lowers bolts. I painted it black. I hung the cooler with the kit's Uralite mounts, attached the fan wires to the thermostat and tapped for power. 3/8 ths inch ID hose, clamps, a half a quart of oil and ......no leaks.

As far as temperature lowering in real numbers I haven't a clue, I have no method of measuring the complete effect outside of the water temp gauge. Along with the two black plastic friction fit gap covers I made to close the space between the lowers and the radiator ( they funnel the wind blast directly into the radiator ) my operating temps on an 80 degree day above 35 mph have dropped a mark and a half.





The cross bar is 1.00 inch conduit, 12g mild steel flanges welded on the ends.

recumbentbob
09-15-2014, 07:23 PM
Looks good you did a great job.

cruiser900
09-15-2014, 09:28 PM
Now that I have proved the concept I am going to dress it up with stainless braided hose and end fittings. I may even clean and wash the lowers to get the bugs off before the next set of photos.

VulcanE
09-16-2014, 04:09 PM
Looks good, I like it.

smokey
09-16-2014, 06:01 PM
Nice job, are you putting a protective screen in front of the cooler? I would be real concerned if it was me about having the cooler damaged by a rock or hitting something sticking up that I couldn't avoid in time.

Silent Sam
09-16-2014, 10:53 PM
..I have the same "oil filter mount-adapter" I'm going to mount on my 02 Nomad...However mounting the cooler that low may be a bit risky..I'm using a "Trans-Cooler", almost as tall/wide as my radiator.. in size, to fit right against my radiator ! ..keeping it up a bit higher..and utilizing the radiator cooling fan, for cooling the oil cooler.. and the radiator..(havent yet-decided on how to mount an Oil Temp Gauge) I assume the sensor for oil-temp should be just after leaving the engine.. befor the oil enters the cooler ! ?

I'm running slow on the fabrication at the moment...will post photo's in a few day's.

cruiser900
09-17-2014, 08:09 PM
Nice job, are you putting a protective screen in front of the cooler? I would be real concerned if it was me about having the cooler damaged by a rock or hitting something sticking up that I couldn't avoid in time.


I suppose that could be done, however the the oil cooler construction is much stouter than the radiator fins which are right behind the front wheel. The regulator wires hang low on the left side and the rear brake line is dangling on the right amidships. My mounting bar keeps the oil cooler above the low point of the regulators..... thoughts?

cruiser900
09-21-2014, 09:00 AM
..I have the same "oil filter mount-adapter" I'm going to mount on my 02 Nomad...However mounting the cooler that low may be a bit risky..I'm using a "Trans-Cooler", almost as tall/wide as my radiator.. in size, to fit right against my radiator ! ..keeping it up a bit higher..and utilizing the radiator cooling fan, for cooling the oil cooler.. and the radiator..(havent yet-decided on how to mount an Oil Temp Gauge) I assume the sensor for oil-temp should be just after leaving the engine.. befor the oil enters the cooler ! ?

I'm running slow on the fabrication at the moment...will post photo's in a few day's.


I gave that type system a look as well because the fan has a much larger diameter, and larger cfm airflow. However I didn't want the heat from the oil cooler heating the the water in the radiator as it passes by. By having the FP-2600 off center to the left the discharge air misses the radiator core and the regulators. I would be interested to see your design in comparison.

cruiser900
09-22-2014, 02:20 PM
The 'sandwich', AN fittings and stainless braided hose.

Myklops
09-26-2014, 01:41 PM
http://www.maperformance.com/mocal-oil-cooler-adapter-w-built-in-thermostat.html

Great mod dude. I'm thinking along the same lines for my vaquero but with this bastard mounted to the filter housing instead.

cruiser900
09-29-2014, 04:11 PM
http://www.maperformance.com/mocal-oil-cooler-adapter-w-built-in-thermostat.html

Great mod dude. I'm thinking along the same lines for my vaquero but with this bastard mounted to the filter housing instead.



I don't think this model 'sandwich' will work. I had to shave nearly 1/4 inch off the one I used. If that is the thermostat in your picture in the upper right it wont mate to the engine block the way I have mine mounted. The diameter of the oil filter is almost exactly what the diameter of the sandwich needs to be. It is possible that if you had the supply/discharge fittings to the outside and the thermostat pointed down that this could work, but the frame, and brake line/pedal components would seem to be in the way. I did not feel that a thermostat was necessary, just a thermo-switch to turn the fan on.

Boscoe
09-29-2014, 04:23 PM
I saw that Jardine has a neat sandwich!

http://www.jardineproducts.com/index.php/cruiser/accessories-cruiser/cruiser-accessories-accessories.html

cruiser900
09-30-2014, 06:31 PM
The 'sandwich', AN fittings and stainless braided hose.



An example of the reduced diameter of the aluminum 'sandwich adapter.'