what is it?

[pooker]

Hello, I need help identifying this motorcycle.
can anyone help?
Thanks

[Bud2rat]

What? no picture.

[pooker]

Ha! almost, it should be there now!!
This photo was taken in Germany maybe right after the war?

[Silent Sam]

Good Looking Lady... :>) Ish leib Da Fraulien's

As for the bike...Harley made a rare-few "flat twins" for the US Military..but most were abandoned in the desert of North Africa after Rommel slaughtered our boys..at The battle Of Kasserine Pass (my info may be inaccurate as to where the Harley Flat twins are)

I cant ID the bike in the photo tho !

[pooker]

could it be a Zundapp??

[ringadingh]

I'm guessing ity could be an Aerial.

[pooker]

Im sure its not a Aerial !!
But thank you for your input!!

[glwilson]

Without researching it, I believe it is a Zundapp.

I cannot tell what year/model yet though. Likely 30'/40's model.

One tell-tale feature of Zundapp's are their fork design. No bike has quite the same, and this bike has Zundapp forks and shocks look just like some of the Zundapp models.

[glwilson]

... but then again, a 1940-41 NSU model looks like a dead ringer for this motorcycle.

Do you know the year this was taken?

[pooker]

My wife thinks 1935??

[glwilson]

I cannot find a NSU model to match this exactly; but the front fender is a classic NSU as well as the muffler tips -- which are definitely just like NSU used to make their tips.

[0vationdave]

Ok, I have to say for the record, that if your not familiar with British bikes, this is like finding a needle in a haystack. I don't know how many people know how many British bike Marques there actually were, but as the owner of one of the rare ones, I can tell you that there are a LOT ( http://cybermotorcycle.com/euro/britain.htm). The stamped front forks didn't come into play until the early-mid 30's that I know of, and 2 years ago I could have gotten close, but its been a long while since I was researching the British bikes. You can see some examples on the link above............if you have time.

Also, there were a lot of bikes pieced together from various part manufacturers. For instance, JAP and Villiers made engines for many bikes (kind of like putting a B&S or Tecumseh on a push mower). Its really hard to say.

[Deweychop]

I'm struggling with this one. Forks look Zundapp but motor looks NSU.
In other words, I don't know :hmm:

[glwilson]

Ok, I have to say for the record, that if your not familiar with British bikes, this is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I have no clue what you are talking about. Why are you mentioning British bikes. This bike is German through and through... :hmm:

I'm struggling with this one. Forks look Zundapp but motor looks NSU.
In other words, I don't know :hmm:

I agree with you. Forks look just like a classic Zundapp. At first glance that is what I thought it was; however, to me, the front fender and pipe-tips are classic NSU.

Regarding the motor, Zundapp made a similar motor, although its bottom-end casing is different than this bike.

The problems with looking-up either brand is the fact there simply are not too many around, nor their records -- I assume given the devastation from WWII.

[ringadingh]

I wonder how those gals in the pics look today....:hmm::hmm:

[redjay]

https://ca.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=Az_6xdYGAWVTTGUAsUvtFAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTIzYX FvYm40BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM5NmY3ODM4MTc0ZWI1 M2VlMjljMWFhMjUzNGE4ZmRmNgRncG9zAzUxBGl0A2Jpbmc-?back=https%3A%2F%2Fca.images.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dariel%2B motorcycle%2B1930%2527s%26fr%3Dyfp-t-715%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D51&w=977&h=570&imgurl=www.vintagebike.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgallery%2Fjawa%2F1934-jawa-350cc-side-valve-977x570.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vintagebike.co.uk%2Fpictures %2F1934-jawa-350cc-side-valve%2F&size=101.0KB&name=1934+Jawa+350cc+Side+Valve+Pictures&p=ariel+motorcycle+1930%27s&oid=96f7838174eb53ee29c1aa2534a8fdf6&fr2=&fr=yfp-t-715&tt=1934+Jawa+350cc+Side+Valve+Pictures&b=0&ni=288&no=51&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=1211umcm9&sigb=13sr8761p&sigi=12sa46cjl&sigt=113fd0305&sign=113fd0305&.crumb=trThMLzg3mj&fr=yfp-t-715

It looks similar to the Jawa but I think this is a single. The photo of Opa and Oma shows a pipe on the left side of the bike. Maybe it was a twin port single ? Or an Ariel motorcycle. They had stamped forks on some models.

[cnc]

I wonder how those gals in the pics look today....:hmm::hmm:

They probably aged at the same rate as you Steve. :lmao:

[ringadingh]

I'm hoping they did better than I did....:yep:

[Silent Sam]

I have -marveled- at how everyone has aged...except me ! ??

[pooker]

Thanks to everyone who helped!
It looks more like a Zundapp than anything else,................but I'm sure that's what it is!!

[glwilson]

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It looks similar to the Jawa but I think this is a single. The photo of Opa and Oma shows a pipe on the left side of the bike. Maybe it was a twin port single ? Or an Ariel motorcycle. They had stamped forks on some models.

Similar, but not the same bike in each picture. Front fender and forks are different.

[pooker]

Similar, but not the same bike in each picture. Front fender and forks are different.


Yes, I think it's a one cylinder with duel exhaust.
The front fender is not like a Zundapp??
Even the front forks look a little different?
The more I look into it, the more I don't think its a Zundapp!
This bike is very puzzling.

[Silent Sam]

Hey pooker...that photo of you.is disturbing the hell outta me..

I had a friend in 1956 ..in Kansas City, that looked just like the kid in that photo ?
..Had a mom that was a knock out (40's/50's style)..His dad had a brand new 1956 Ford Crown Victoria ..Black/White...lost track of him in 1957...(we moved)

[pooker]

I am a Gemini!!

[glwilson]

Yes, I think it's a one cylinder with duel exhaust.
The front fender is not like a Zundapp??
Even the front forks look a little different?
The more I look into it, the more I don't think its a Zundapp!
This bike is very puzzling.

If you research NSU bikes, they had this exact same fender; where the inside tip flares out. The flare is very similar, if not exactly like some models of NSU bikes. I am not aware of any Zundapp with a front fender like this one. Zundapp's I am aware of have front fender trailing edges without flares to them.

However, no where have I found an NSU with forks exactly like that. Ah... the mystery begins.

The Zundapp, however, has that type of forks (fork covers actually) on several models.

The engine design is similar for both companies in some of their models; thus I look at other features of the engine, like the lower casing for example. In this situation, it resembles a Zundapp, but does not match what I can find so far.

Another feature is the tailpipe tips. Zundapp, NSU, and a couple companies had similar tip designs; however when looking closely at this bike, its tips resembles the tips found on some Zundapp models.

So far this bike is a mystery to me, but I always like a challenge and will keep looking. It may take a while to discover what it is...:cheers:

[cnc]

If you research NSU bikes, they had this exact same fender; where the inside tip flares out. The flare is very similar, if not exactly like some models of NSU bikes. I am not aware of any Zundapp with a front fender like this one. Zundapp's I am aware of have front fender trailing edges without flares to them.

However, no where have I found an NSU with forks exactly like that. Ah... the mystery begins.

The Zundapp, however, has that type of forks (fork covers actually) on several models.

The engine design is similar for both companies in some of their models; thus I look at other features of the engine, like the lower casing for example. In this situation, it resembles a Zundapp, but does not match what I can find so far.

Another feature is the tailpipe tips. Zundapp, NSU, and a couple companies had similar tip designs; however when looking closely at this bike, its tips resembles the tips found on some NSU models.

So far this bike is a mystery to me, but I always like a challenge and will keep looking. It may take a while to discover what it is...:cheers:

You guys are assuming that the bike in the pic is stock and maybe it is. But just a thought here. My mum often talked about about bikes my grandfather put together for his own use around the war years in England. He called them bitsers, cause they were usually bits of several bikes to make one good one.
I kind of did the same when I was young. My first bike was a Yamie and I put fenders on from a Suzuki cause in my mind they looked better.:shrug:

[blowndodge]

It looks like a very modern 2014 HD Ultra limited! :lmao::bird:

Sorry.....couldn't help myself!!

[pooker]

If you research NSU bikes, they had this exact same fender; where the inside tip flares out. The flare is very similar, if not exactly like some models of NSU bikes. I am not aware of any Zundapp with a front fender like this one. Zundapp's I am aware of have front fender trailing edges without flares to them.

However, no where have I found an NSU with forks exactly like that. Ah... the mystery begins.

The Zundapp, however, has that type of forks (fork covers actually) on several models.

The engine design is similar for both companies in some of their models; thus I look at other features of the engine, like the lower casing for example. In this situation, it resembles a Zundapp, but does not match what I can find so far.

Another feature is the tailpipe tips. Zundapp, NSU, and a couple companies had similar tip designs; however when looking closely at this bike, its tips resembles the tips found on some Zundapp models.

So far this bike is a mystery to me, but I always like a challenge and will keep looking. It may take a while to discover what it is...:cheers:

Yes, this is what I am having trouble with.
The forks could be Zundapp??
The motor,....well they all look alike.
The fender is defiantly is NSU!
The passenger seat could be Zundapp or NSU, well it could be a lot of different bikes.
Is this bike original,...............I would say knowing my wife's relitives, YES!
The photo was taken in Ostpreussen.
Thanks

[glwilson]

It looks like a very modern 2014 HD Ultra limited! :lmao::bird:

Sorry.....couldn't help myself!!

Did someone say something?:hmm: :D

[pooker]

I know what it is now!!!!
DKW SB 500, 1934
Thanks

[glwilson]

I know what it is now!!!!
DKW SB 500, 1934
Thanks

Mystery solved! Good job...:cheers:

[doctorgski]

Royal Enfield?

[LikketySplit]

That's a rare Rolls Canardly. Very few ever made. It had a serious performance flaw - rolls down one hill, canardly make it up the other!