Pros and Cons of Vaquero?

[cheriann]

I know I haven't been on here for a while, and I have tried combing the board for answers about owning a Vaquero. I read through most of the thread on Owners of Vaquero, etc.... I am finding some issues, which I know is normal when a new model comes out, but having trouble keeping them all straight! (Blonde thing, I guess!!! LOL!)

Hubby has found me a deal on a 2012 blue Vaquero, which we are about ready to pull the trigger on (I'll trade in my 900). Can I ask if it is worth it? Is it a good bike? Are the Vaquero owners happy? Any thing I should worry about or replace immediately? Is there a better thread to find these answers in?

Thank you!!!!!!

[jestephens]

You are in the correct forum and welcome. IMO, there is nothing of the Vaquero that MUST be replaced as soon as you get it other than the windscreen, and that' primarily dependent on your height and helmet style e.g. Full face v/ Half.

That said, I've changed several things, but that's because I can't leave any bike alone.

New, my Vaq had somewhat of a whine in the belt at low speeds, but that has gone away some time ago, now at 3500 miles. Louder shifting is a trait of the 1700's, but that too has gotten quieter with mileage.

Many of the guys on this thread will argue till the cows come home that the Voyager is a "better deal" because of some included accessories and tourpack. But the Vaquero is a different bike, with a different look and a different attitude. You'll love it http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool01.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[bearbait]

I replaced my 1600 Nomad with a 2011 Vaquero and couldn't be happier. Just returned from my first long trip (New York to the Dragon in North Carolina) and enjoyed every minute of it.

I replaced the stock wind deflector with a 12" windshield, and bought the quick release passenger backrest to help hold my touring luggage on the bike.

It is a good bike, and there are no immediate "worries" other than - as jestephens said - the wind deflector. Of course, YMMV.

[mobandy78]

Good questions, cheriann. I want to see these answers too. I'd love to have a Vaquero, but it may be a year or two before I can pull that trigger.

[cheriann]

You are in the correct forum and welcome. IMO, there is nothing of the Vaquero that MUST be replaced as soon as you get it other than the windscreen, and that' primarily dependent on your height and helmet style e.g. Full face v/ Half.

That said, I've changed several things, but that's because I can't leave any bike alone.

New, my Vaq had somewhat of a whine in the belt at low speeds, but that has gone away some time ago, now at 3500 miles. Louder shifting is a trait of the 1700's, but that too has gotten quieter with mileage.

Many of the guys on this thread will argue till the cows come home that the Voyager is a "better deal" because of some included accessories and tourpack. But the Vaquero is a different bike, with a different look and a different attitude. You'll love it http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool01.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Thank you!!! It's funny you mention the Voyager vs Vaquero. I have already been getting that from others, but I am firm that I want the Vaquero

[cheriann]

I replaced my 1600 Nomad with a 2011 Vaquero and couldn't be happier. Just returned from my first long trip (New York to the Dragon in North Carolina) and enjoyed every minute of it.

I replaced the stock wind deflector with a 12" windshield, and bought the quick release passenger backrest to help hold my touring luggage on the bike.

It is a good bike, and there are no immediate "worries" other than - as jestephens said - the wind deflector. Of course, YMMV.

Thank you so much! I guess my first replacement will be the windshield. Thank you for the measurements!

[cheriann]

Good questions, cheriann. I want to see these answers too. I'd love to have a Vaquero, but it may be a year or two before I can pull that trigger.

WHEW! Glad someone else wanted to know too!!! I know many have been discussing their Vaquero here, but I wanted a thread with immediate pros and cons all in one place

[quad_hunter]

I too just love my Vaquero. Like others replaced the windshield right away with a Cee Bailey 9". If your making a deal, try and get them to throw in the aux. driving lights for free, and while they got it apart they might as well throw in aux. cig. lighter plug. Other then that, enjoy and don't be afraid to pull the trigger.

[DarkStar]

I’ve ridden motorcycles for years now, I’ve been riding a track dedicated Yamaha R1 for the last several seasons but when I decided to start street riding again in addition to my track riding I researched everything in the large V-twin category and decided on the Vaquero and I have absolutely no regrets in buying it. This thing is a beast and rides and performs extremely well, I’d wanted a V-twin for a street bike as I like the ‘loping’ feel to the engine, the Vaquero is no R1 superbike but pulls strong, and even with the stock intakes, exhaust, and rubber performs very well, you don't have to change a thing if you don't wish to...

I have but one minor complaint and this comes more from years of sportbikes and track racing than a true issue with the Vaquero, the Vaquero does exhibit a slight delay/lag in throttle response at small throttle openings which I find disconcerting, I'm used to immediate response, but ‘RACNRAY’ here on the forums has developed a fix and I’ll be using his modified throttle tube and solve that problem.

This bike has gotten a great many compliments wherever I go and don’t let the size fool you, she handles and performs well. I’m partial to liter bike performance and handling but the Vaquero sheds her weight when she starts moving and really provides a spirited yet stable ride with predictable handling, I can hustle her through tight turns and sweepers with ease… luckily the floorboards have replaceable ‘feelers’… :lmao:

I think the biggest 'problem' I see is some owners trying to make the Vaquero something it's not, I see it designed as a solo rider alternative to the Voyager, a 'muscle bike' type of attitude and stance. If that's what you like, the Vaquero can't be beat...

Edit: I should have mentioned I did upgrade to the Cee Baileys 11" dark grey windscreen, it really diminished wind turbulence. I do intend to upgrade the intake to a Thunder, the EFI to a Cobra and the exhaust to V&H, not because it's necessary but because I like buying my motorcycles toys! In addition to the RacnRay throttle tube mod I plan on adding the Kawasaki driving lights, I like the look...

This thread needs a pic!

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/DarkStarShooter/003-1.jpg

[tazfl]

I just traded in my 2008 nomad on a new vaquero (green / black) a few weeks ago. I absolutely love this bike and I think you'll have a hard time trying to find any reason to regret making the trade. Like others have already said, the stock windscreen /shield is a joke. I just ordered a taller shield for mine a couple of nights ago.
Make the trade, you'll be glad you did.

[aldridgekennedy]

I could not be happier with my 2011 vaquero. before that i rode a nomad and a 900.

Like others, i put a new windscreen on (and i added a few extras fro my wife like the passenger floorboards).

I use my bike for an everyday commuter and trips on weekends. I am very pleased with it in all the roles its called on to play.

[Robert Fox]

i love my vaquero and as others stated......a taller windshield is a must. i will also add the ipod cable for the left glove box. i personally do not listen to the radio that much as i do my ipod. hope this helps and good luck with the purchase.

[cheriann]

I too just love my Vaquero. Like others replaced the windshield right away with a Cee Bailey 9". If your making a deal, try and get them to throw in the aux. driving lights for free, and while they got it apart they might as well throw in aux. cig. lighter plug. Other then that, enjoy and don't be afraid to pull the trigger.

Thank you! I'm happy to see alot of happy owners!!!
Good points! We can try, but right now I think the negotiations between hubby and salesman are dealing with the extended warranty. I'll mention your suggestions too! It can't hurt, right?

[cheriann]

Thank you for your very informative post!!!! I really am interested in what others think after purchasing and riding one. I will get in touch with "RACNRAY" and ask him about the throttle fix, thank you!!!!

Your Vaquero is STUNNING!!!! WOW!!! It makes me drool!!! I can see that turning alot of heads on the highway!!!

I’ve ridden motorcycles for years now, I’ve been riding a track dedicated Yamaha R1 for the last several seasons but when I decided to start street riding again in addition to my track riding I researched everything in the large V-twin category and decided on the Vaquero and I have absolutely no regrets in buying it. This thing is a beast and rides and performs extremely well, I’d wanted a V-twin for a street bike as I like the ‘loping’ feel to the engine, the Vaquero is no R1 superbike but pulls strong, and even with the stock intakes, exhaust, and rubber performs very well, you don't have to change a thing if you don't wish to...

I have but one minor complaint and this comes more from years of sportbikes and track racing than a true issue with the Vaquero, the Vaquero does exhibit a slight delay/lag in throttle response at small throttle openings which I find disconcerting, I'm used to immediate response, but ‘RACNRAY’ here on the forums has developed a fix and I’ll be using his modified throttle tube and solve that problem.

This bike has gotten a great many compliments wherever I go and don’t let the size fool you, she handles and performs well. I’m partial to liter bike performance and handling but the Vaquero sheds her weight when she starts moving and really provides a spirited yet stable ride with predictable handling, I can hustle her through tight turns and sweepers with ease… luckily the floorboards have replaceable ‘feelers’… :lmao:

I think the biggest 'problem' I see is some owners trying to make the Vaquero something it's not, I see it designed as a solo rider alternative to the Voyager, a 'muscle bike' type of attitude and stance. If that's what you like, the Vaquero can't be beat...

Edit: I should have mentioned I did upgrade to the Cee Baileys 11" dark grey windscreen, it really diminished wind turbulence. I do intend to upgrade the intake to a Thunder, the EFI to a Cobra and the exhaust to V&H, not because it's necessary but because I like buying my motorcycles toys! In addition to the RacnRay throttle tube mod I plan on adding the Kawasaki driving lights, I like the look...

This thread needs a pic!

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/DarkStarShooter/003-1.jpg

[cheriann]

I just traded in my 2008 nomad on a new vaquero (green / black) a few weeks ago. I absolutely love this bike and I think you'll have a hard time trying to find any reason to regret making the trade. Like others have already said, the stock windscreen /shield is a joke. I just ordered a taller shield for mine a couple of nights ago.
Make the trade, you'll be glad you did.

You got the green one!!! How pretty! Glad you are so pleased with the bike!!!! I will start shopping ahead today for the new windshield!!!! Thank you!

[cheriann]

I could not be happier with my 2011 vaquero. before that i rode a nomad and a 900.

Like others, i put a new windscreen on (and i added a few extras fro my wife like the passenger floorboards).

I use my bike for an everyday commuter and trips on weekends. I am very pleased with it in all the roles its called on to play.


Oh boy! A former 900 owner too!!!! As much as I always wanted to make the trade earlier for a Nomad, I'm kinda glad to have the option for the sportier Vaquero now. I'm happy that you are pleased with it!!! Now I'm getting excited to get one....Thank you!

[cheriann]

i love my vaquero and as others stated......a taller windshield is a must. i will also add the ipod cable for the left glove box. i personally do not listen to the radio that much as i do my ipod. hope this helps and good luck with the purchase.

Thank you! I am used to listening to my ipod now on my 900. I think I would be interested in doing that too! Does the radio have that hookup already, or are you adding it?

[Pitchinguy]

Pros: That bike is hot! That bike is cool! And, the blue is sweet & will go well w/your eyes. :tup:

Cons:I don't have one. >:

[DarkStar]

Thank you! I am used to listening to my ipod now on my 900. I think I would be interested in doing that too! Does the radio have that hookup already, or are you adding it?


Check them out here: http://www.kawasaki.com/DigitalCatalogs/VaqueroFlipbook/view.html

Page 12-13... I'm using the iPod adapter as well, it's a simple plug and play connection, the Vaquero has the wiring harness connector in the left pocket of the fairing. There's 2 different connectors, depending on what model of iPod/device you have.

[jestephens]

I too just love my Vaquero. Like others replaced the windshield right away with a Cee Bailey 9". If your making a deal, try and get them to throw in the aux. driving lights for free, and while they got it apart they might as well throw in aux. cig. lighter plug. Other then that, enjoy and don't be afraid to pull the trigger.

9" Cee Bailey is what I put on too. I got the dark smoke (not black) tint. They have an array of sizes, and will make it custom to you if you ask. Great product though

[jestephens]

Just to save you some time here's what Ray sent me regarding his throttle mod . . .

HELLO...here is info on how to obtain the mod. If you have any questions send me a pm or call the shop 954-455-9665.

RAY


HEY GUYS...

I have been gettin enuff requests for my quick turn throttle mod for the 1600/1700/2000 Vulcans that i have decided to produce these and offer them for sale.

I checked Kawi's part numbers and my mod fits ALL years 1700 and 2000 Vulcans and 2008 1600 Nomad. There may be other Vulcans this mod will fit, i will have to have samples to see. The OEM Kawi part # for the grip is 46019-1109 so please double check the part nmbr for your skoot. This mod IS APPLICABLE to Kuryakyn AND avon grips. If you are considering changing grips at the same time i can supply your choice of grips already modified. Let me know and i can supply pricing. This mod can be performed on Kuryakyn and Avon grips.


ANYWAYS....i have one stock throttle in stock already modded, and i'll try to have at least one more ready to go. I will be setting up an ordering process as follows...

You send me your throttle tube/grip, i will mod it and send it back, cost will be $59.00 PLUS the cost of ground shipping via USPS to the 50 states only. I only ship via usps due to convienence, but they have already lost 2 throttle grips. I suggest that you ship your grip and i will only be shipping back via "insured and signature required".

If you DO NOT want your skoot down waiting for the throttle, then you can order a tube from me. I will ship it out asap, you will then ship your tube to me. A core charge" will be charged in the amount of $47.00 in addition to the $59.00 at the time of order (this is to cover my cost in replacing the tube if i don't get one back). When i recieve your GOOD USABLE grip back i will credit back your card $42.00 ($47.00 less $5.00 service charge).

If i recieve a damaged core that i cannot use, then i will not be able to refund the core charge.If I don't reieve a grip back in 15 days, there will be an additional $5.00 service charge. If I DO NOT recieve a grip back in 30 days, the core charge is forfeited.

SO...i hope i have not confused anyone as i felt it was necessary to offer two types of ordering. Any one wanting quicker than ground service will be charged accordingly.

This is a simple mod to perform, some mechanical experience is necessary for proper installation, i will be glad to offer technical support over the phone. No other mods are needed, no tuning ,etc. Acceleration will be improved, especially in the lower rpm/throttle position areas.

I hope this pm finds everyone well and hungry for more MOJO, I was very happy with the improvement on my skoot.

You may call me directly at the shop...954-455-9665,
Tue-Fri 9-6:30 (closed for lunch 2-3 pm) and Sat 9-3 all day, Florida time.

VISA,M/C,DISCOVER,AM/EX accepted.

THANX ALL
RACNRAY
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"TRUE HAPPINESS IS IN THE HEART, NOT IN THE OUTSIDE FIXES"

[Roadie]

Love my Vaquero with all the mods (they are listed below in my sig line), also, would recommend the throttle mod so the throttle and bike are more responsive, which I have now also done, and wow, is all I can say, best bike I have ever own overall and I have owned many bikes since I was 16 and am now 64.

[chapmast]

I have about 9,000 miles on my Vaquero and I still get a thrill when I get a chance to fire it up and hit the road. Over the year I have had my Vaquero I have tinkered with it adding things here and there for performance and looks just because that is what I like to do. I looked at the Victory and the Harley's and I just love the looks of the Vaquero. I came from an 800 Suzuki and was looking for something that could handle the highway better and I found it. This bike can cruise down the highway like a stroll in the park. Good luck with your purchase.

[RACNRAY]

People ask me how do I like my Vaquero, all i have to do is show them my mileage.

Here is my mileage on the day i owned my V for one year...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/RACNRAY/VAQUERO/20750MLS002.jpg

NUFF SAID!!

RACNRAY

[cheriann]

Pros: That bike is hot! That bike is cool! And, the blue is sweet & will go well w/your eyes. :tup:

Cons:I don't have one. >:

LOL!!! Aw shucks.... *blushing* ........thank you!!!!!!
I looked at a picture online of the blue and WOW! It is gorgeous! Can't wait to see it in person!!!!

[cheriann]

Check them out here: http://www.kawasaki.com/DigitalCatalogs/VaqueroFlipbook/view.html

Page 12-13... I'm using the iPod adapter as well, it's a simple plug and play connection, the Vaquero has the wiring harness connector in the left pocket of the fairing. There's 2 different connectors, depending on what model of iPod/device you have.

First of all, THANK YOU FOR THAT LINK!!! I haven't seen that yet!!! Really shows you everything you can get!!!!
Next, I am thrilled with the setup, and will have to buy that ipod kit!!!!

[cheriann]

9" Cee Bailey is what I put on too. I got the dark smoke (not black) tint. They have an array of sizes, and will make it custom to you if you ask. Great product though

Okay....I have a confession....after reading this, along with the others, I ran right over to their web site and ordered it already!!!! I hope I didn't jinx myself!!!!!! LOL!

Thanks for the complete information on the throttle fix!!! I will want that for sure!!!

[cheriann]

Love my Vaquero with all the mods (they are listed below in my sig line), also, would recommend the throttle mod so the throttle and bike are more responsive, which I have now also done, and wow, is all I can say, best bike I have ever own overall and I have owned many bikes since I was 16 and am now 64.

WOW! That's a strong recommendation!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
I am getting so excited now....

[cheriann]

I have about 9,000 miles on my Vaquero and I still get a thrill when I get a chance to fire it up and hit the road. Over the year I have had my Vaquero I have tinkered with it adding things here and there for performance and looks just because that is what I like to do. I looked at the Victory and the Harley's and I just love the looks of the Vaquero. I came from an 800 Suzuki and was looking for something that could handle the highway better and I found it. This bike can cruise down the highway like a stroll in the park. Good luck with your purchase.

Thanks!!! I was actually looking at the Victory too. I was torn between the two...then I decided I liked the Vaquero better...sounds like I made the best choice!!!!

[cheriann]

People ask me how do I like my Vaquero, all i have to do is show them my mileage.

Here is my mileage on the day i owned my V for one year...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/RACNRAY/VAQUERO/20750MLS002.jpg

NUFF SAID!!

RACNRAY

I LOVE this picture!!!!! You're right, it says it all!!!!! Thank you for sharing that with me!!!!

I can't wait to get my new Vaquero now....and I will be contacting you as soon as I do!!!!! :-)

[cactusjack]

Check them out here: http://www.kawasaki.com/DigitalCatalogs/VaqueroFlipbook/view.html

Page 12-13... I'm using the iPod adapter as well, it's a simple plug and play connection, the Vaquero has the wiring harness connector in the left pocket of the fairing. There's 2 different connectors, depending on what model of iPod/device you have.

Wowee! Fifteen whole pages of accessories? :lmao:

[DarkStar]

Wowee! Fifteen whole pages of accessories? :lmao:

Yep, there's no Chinese made officially licensed t-shirts, or key chains, or bar and shield underwear, or anything else that doesn't have to do with the actual motorcycling experience... That's left for the Milwaukee based make-believe...

:tehe:

Oh, I forgot, speaking of accessories and whatnot...

Why do Harley riders need to have chrome on all their parts?

It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road....

heh

[recumbentbob]

Love my Vaquero with all the mods (they are listed below in my sig line),

Oil is not a mod............:D

[cactusjack]

Yep, there's no Chinese made officially licensed t-shirts, or key chains, or bar and shield underwear, or anything else that doesn't have to do with the actual motorcycling experience... That's left for the Milwaukee based make-believe...

:tehe:

Oh, I forgot, speaking of accessories and whatnot...

Why do Harley riders need to have chrome on all their parts?

It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road....

heh

Too bad you really don't know what you're talking about. There aren't tshirts or key chains or cat collars in the HD P&A book, just 850 pages of parts and accessories. There's more than 15 pages of nothing but seats.

[Gonzo]

Oh, I forgot, speaking of accessories and whatnot...

Why do Harley riders need to have chrome on all their parts?

It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road....

heh

You forgot the real reason . . . makes those parts easier to spot when they fall off. It's a built in safety feature.

[rickyboy]

Hi Cheriann, it's been a while since I've seen you here. Welcome back !
I know you were kicking around the idea of getting a Nomad a while back. I think I even remember sending you Nomads off of Craigslist for you to consider.
So now you've decided on the Vaquero eh. What a great looking bike. From everything I've read it's a solid ride and I haven't heard anyone say,....
"I don't really like it" What's not to like! If I had the money and could still keep my Nomad, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. As I remember, your husband pulls a trailer for the two of you {but I'm sure his stuff fits in his saddle bags.} :lmao:
So you don't really need the Voyager with the tour pack. I think the Vaquero has pretty much all the same bells and whistles if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure you're going love it ! Let us know how you/"hubby" makes out and be sure to post a picture of you and the bike. Don't be such a stranger and stay in touch here. We have a ton of new members now but a lot of the old faces are still around. :wave:

[Top Cat]

Scott, sometimes I think you forget your on a Kawasaki forum :hmm:

[DarkStar]

Too bad you really don't know what you're talking about. There aren't tshirts or key chains or cat collars in the HD P&A book, just 850 pages of parts and accessories. There's more than 15 pages of nothing but seats.

Life is way too short to take seriously...

[jestephens]

Scott, sometimes I think you forget your on a Kawasaki forum :hmm:

My number one reason for not buying HD is my ego isn't big enough. Definitely not enough to waste on non-believers. ;)

BTW jokes are jokes

[cactusjack]

Life is way too short to take seriously...

I don't take it seriously. I can take kidding as well as anyone, but I get pissed when people just make sh*t up. Facts are facts, the Vaquero accessory catalog is 15 pages long. I'm not making that up.

[jestephens]

92% of all statistics are made up anyhow.

[cheriann]

Hi Cheriann, it's been a while since I've seen you here. Welcome back !
I know you were kicking around the idea of getting a Nomad a while back. I think I even remember sending you Nomads off of Craigslist for you to consider.
So now you've decided on the Vaquero eh. What a great looking bike. From everything I've read it's a solid ride and I haven't heard anyone say,....
"I don't really like it" What's not to like! If I had the money and could still keep my Nomad, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. As I remember, your husband pulls a trailer for the two of you {but I'm sure his stuff fits in his saddle bags.} :lmao:
So you don't really need the Voyager with the tour pack. I think the Vaquero has pretty much all the same bells and whistles if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure you're going love it ! Let us know how you/"hubby" makes out and be sure to post a picture of you and the bike. Don't be such a stranger and stay in touch here. We have a ton of new members now but a lot of the old faces are still around. :wave:

Hi Ricky! Thank you for remembering me!!! :D
You're right...I dreamed and drooled of owning a Nomad for the past few years. The money wasn't right at the time. Now we have a chance financially to do this, but now I have more choices!!!! I really like the Vaquero...besides, Chaz is secretly hoping I will think it is too much bike for me and trade him the Vaquero for his Nomad!!! NO WAY!! :tehe:

Oh, and you are correct....he pulls a trailer behind his Nomad for MY luggage, so I don't need the Voyager extras!!! :yep:

[schoeney]

Hey CJ

I know you are a big fan of the HD endless accessories because you mention it frequently but I guess I am wondering what the value in that really is?

Any time I have needed a part or accessory for my Nomad I have been able to find or get it easily so I don't see the advantage to the expansive HD catalog? If I needed parts every day or week maybe it would be an issue but buying a few a year is easy.

Now maybe there is a bunch of stuff I don't want or need but if I want chrome, bigger windshields, horns, seats, accessory mounts, lowers, fender bibbs, emblems, lights, clocks, white walls, backrests, gauges, fuel processors, exhaust pipes, trunks, cruise control, replacement parts, etc for my Nomad they can all be found with a couple clicks. They may not be in one neat little catalog but they are easy to find. I assume many of the HD parts still need to be ordered and obviously most of them are made by someone other than HD and HD just puts their name on them...So why is the catalog such a big feature?

I know you have owned both a Nomad and an HD so you have experience with both. Not looking for comparison in the bikes because they are different price points.

Everytime you bring up the accessory issue I just scratch my head and ask "why is that such a big deal?".:crazy: So I guess I need to ask you the question.

[toy4bob]

Can't really add anything already said, but just wanted to give another endorsement from a happy Vaquero owner. Good luck and ENJOY your new ride!

[cheriann]

Can't really add anything already said, but just wanted to give another endorsement from a happy Vaquero owner. Good luck and ENJOY your new ride!

Thank you! By the way, have you replaced the stock seat, or do you find it comfortable enough?

[dmyers]

I'm to poor to buy a new VAQ. So i'm going to turn my nomad into one( more or less :shrug:). But one day I will own a vaquero. I hope you like yours as much as i do. As far as owning a HD :bird::bird::bird: Never gona happen

[jestephens]

Thank you! By the way, have you replaced the stock seat, or do you find it comfortable enough?

I bought the kawasaki gel seat at the same time. I think it raises me an inch or so, enough to make the 9" cee bailey's shield a tad too short (for me). I ride with the stock seat most often, unless the wife is with me for a longer ride. The gel seat is wider for her, but she says even the stock is okay for shorter rides.

[Idaho]

cheriann, I see you on FB all the time and it is nice to see you diving back into this site. You will enjoy the Vaquero. Just go slow for a while until you get used to the larger mass over the 900.

[innisfree]

Looks great,guys

[spazz]

I Love the bike she wants. I will have to wait for a little while longer though. She gets the next pick on the bikes, but, I get the next pick of cars. Can you say Camaro!!!!!

Once Chuckster comes up with a Tow Hitch for her new bike she will be puling a trailer with her Luggage....

[cheriann]

I bought the kawasaki gel seat at the same time. I think it raises me an inch or so, enough to make the 9" cee bailey's shield a tad too short (for me). I ride with the stock seat most often, unless the wife is with me for a longer ride. The gel seat is wider for her, but she says even the stock is okay for shorter rides.

I did notice the gel seat and wondered how it was. I have a Corbin on my 900 that I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE....but it's $800 to get one for the Vaquero :ohno:

[cheriann]

cheriann, I see you on FB all the time and it is nice to see you diving back into this site. You will enjoy the Vaquero. Just go slow for a while until you get used to the larger mass over the 900.

LOL! Are you saying I "talk" too much over there?!! :lol:

I plan on taking my time with it. As I mentioned earlier, Chaz is hoping I think it is too much bike for me and trade with him :lmao:

[cheriann]

I Love the bike she wants. I will have to wait for a little while longer though. She gets the next pick on the bikes, but, I get the next pick of cars. Can you say Camaro!!!!!

Once Chuckster comes up with a Tow Hitch for her new bike she will be puling a trailer with her Luggage....

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....just remember I will be driving that Camaro into Washington, DC traffic for work!!!!!! :ohno:

As for the tow hitch...once I get one for my Vaquero, that will mean I will be able to pack MORE, MORE, MORE!!!!!!! :yep: I'll have YOUR trailer and MINE to carry it all!!! Hey, if it helps, I'll offer up space in my saddle bags for your stuff!

[mobandy78]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....just remember I will be driving that Camaro into Washington, DC traffic for work!!!!!! :ohno:

As for the tow hitch...once I get one for my Vaquero, that will mean I will be able to pack MORE, MORE, MORE!!!!!!! :yep: I'll have YOUR trailer and MINE to carry it all!!! Hey, if it helps, I'll offer up space in my saddle bags for your stuff!

That's funny! :lmao: But, so true. That's the way it usually works out. I don't care how much talk these guys have. They've all been there. :lol:

[Pitchinguy]

Don't know if the driver seat on the Nomad & Vaq are the same. I know the passenger seats are way different. I think the driver seat on the Nomad & Voyager are the same. Anyways, I've been really pleased with the OEM seat on my Nomad & have no plans of changing it. Did a couple 12 hr days down to Fl in Nov & was really comfortable the whole time. The driver backrest & highway pegs are a must though! Hopefully, your Vaq will be as comfy as the Nomad & save you that $!

[DarkStar]

Just a few other things I neglected to mention, mostly on setup once you've got your new Beastie... :D

First, tire pressures, MaKawi recommends 28psi front which seems crazy. The front has no feel, it seemed lazy and pushes and I'd suspect tire cupping problems for such a heavy bike as such low pressures. I experimented with different tire pressures and really liked 35psi front, 40psi rear. I weigh 145 pounds and always ride solo, this pressure setup gave a stable, neutral handling front and is showing no abnormal wear, if it wasn't for the fact I'd touch down some of the hard bits I could easily run these tires out to their edge now.

The belt... Kawi calls for 3-4.5mm deflection, wow that's tight! When I rode Harley the belt was always kept at 3/8" to 7/16", 9.5-11.1mm. I put the Vaquero to 7/16"... A hot topic, but considering the rear end is now running quiet I'm going to believe I'm on the right path...

Air shocks... I ended up at 10psi for a nice easy chair ride with the rebound set to 2, as I said, I'm 145 pounds so adjust up or down based on your weight...

Pictures... post some when you get your Vaquero!

[cheriann]

Don't know if the driver seat on the Nomad & Vaq are the same. I know the passenger seats are way different. I think the driver seat on the Nomad & Voyager are the same. Anyways, I've been really pleased with the OEM seat on my Nomad & have no plans of changing it. Did a couple 12 hr days down to Fl in Nov & was really comfortable the whole time. The driver backrest & highway pegs are a must though! Hopefully, your Vaq will be as comfy as the Nomad & save you that $!

Thanks Pitchinguy! WOW! That's a first...I've never heard anyone say they are comfortable with the stock seat. Maybe Kawi finally made one we can live with!!! :D

[cheriann]

Just a few other things I neglected to mention, mostly on setup once you've got your new Beastie... :D

First, tire pressures, MaKawi recommends 28psi front which seems crazy. The front has no feel, it seemed lazy and pushes and I'd suspect tire cupping problems for such a heavy bike as such low pressures. I experimented with different tire pressures and really liked 35psi front, 40psi rear. I weigh 145 pounds and always ride solo, this pressure setup gave a stable, neutral handling front and is showing no abnormal wear, if it wasn't for the fact I'd touch down some of the hard bits I could easily run these tires out to their edge now.

The belt... Kawi calls for 3-4.5mm deflection, wow that's tight! When I rode Harley the belt was always kept at 3/8" to 7/16", 9.5-11.1mm. I put the Vaquero to 7/16"... A hot topic, but considering the rear end is now running quiet I'm going to believe I'm on the right path...

Air shocks... I ended up at 10psi for a nice easy chair ride with the rebound set to 2, as I said, I'm 145 pounds so adjust up or down based on your weight...

Pictures... post some when you get your Vaquero!

Oh boy!!! Thank you for added tips!!!! I have copied and saved to a Word doc so that I can remember all the numbers and settings!!!! :yep:

[cactusjack]

Hey CJ

I know you are a big fan of the HD endless accessories because you mention it frequently but I guess I am wondering what the value in that really is?

Any time I have needed a part or accessory for my Nomad I have been able to find or get it easily so I don't see the advantage to the expansive HD catalog? If I needed parts every day or week maybe it would be an issue but buying a few a year is easy.

Now maybe there is a bunch of stuff I don't want or need but if I want chrome, bigger windshields, horns, seats, accessory mounts, lowers, fender bibbs, emblems, lights, clocks, white walls, backrests, gauges, fuel processors, exhaust pipes, trunks, cruise control, replacement parts, etc for my Nomad they can all be found with a couple clicks. They may not be in one neat little catalog but they are easy to find. I assume many of the HD parts still need to be ordered and obviously most of them are made by someone other than HD and HD just puts their name on them...So why is the catalog such a big feature?

I know you have owned both a Nomad and an HD so you have experience with both. Not looking for comparison in the bikes because they are different price points.

Everytime you bring up the accessory issue I just scratch my head and ask "why is that such a big deal?".:crazy: So I guess I need to ask you the question.

The lack of accessories (both OEM and aftermarket) is one of the few real gripes I had about my nomad. It's also why I didn't seriously consider a new nomad or a vaquero or voyager. You shouldn't have to buy a Harley sportster solo rack for your nomad. They should make a shock air balance kit for it, you should be able to easily purchase a rebuild kit or a performance kit to juice up the bike, if that's what you want.

But mostly, I just think 15 pages of accessories is pretty pathetic. It's like Kaw has decided "yep, that's all anybody is ever going to need" and that's it.

I guess it boils down to having more than one option. Having only one option is having no option at all.

[galax83061]

I put on the Kawasaki Gel seat and it makes a hell of a difference in the ride.

[Duff]

Should be picking up a new 2011 black Vaquero this weekend. I had already made up my mind pretty much after test riding, but this thread pretty much adds the sugar coating to the decision!

[Loafer]

Should be picking up a new 2011 black Vaquero this weekend. I had
already made up my mind pretty much after test riding, but this thread pretty much adds
the sugar coating to the decision!

Duff, welcome to the forum and post some photos.
No photos, it didn't happen.

[element80]

Yep, there's no Chinese made officially licensed t-shirts, or key chains, or bar and shield underwear, or anything else that doesn't have to do with the actual motorcycling experience... That's left for the Milwaukee based make-believe...

:tehe:

Oh, I forgot, speaking of accessories and whatnot...

Why do Harley riders need to have chrome on all their parts?

It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road....

heh

fantastic! on my trip to arkansas the only bikes that broke down were late model ultra classics and road glides...watched two get push started, one had a starter problem...saw a road glide ultra go into the show for clutch issues...one went to change the oil, and they rebuilt his heads...(19k on the odo) But they did give him a loaner for the weekend.

[element80]

Too bad you really don't know what you're talking about. There aren't tshirts or key chains or cat collars in the HD P&A book, just 850 pages of parts and accessories. There's more than 15 pages of nothing but seats.

Yeah, our pres. used to ride a valkyrie, my father used to have a shadow...both now own multiple harleys and have spent thousands on accessories...both rarely ride anymore, and have the shop come pick up their bikes, change the oil, detail them, and drop them off at the house when they are done. Dad has had his bike as long as ive had the vaquero, and he has 1000 miles on it, I will hit 7k on the way home today (1st week in Jan. to the last week in Mar.) It just depends on what you want. As far as performance and longevity Kawi has HD whooped...if you want a fancy cam, or bolt on accessories, that can be purchased in a catalog then HD might be for you, their paint is exceptional though...I plan on doing custom pain once the bike is paid for anyway...any other parts I need would also be custom fabbed...harley riders used to have that mind set...some still do, like my Compound brothers down south...Honestly, dad used to be pretty cool, but now he has sold out, even his underwear say HD on them...it isn't about rebelling or freedom anymore, it is about keeping up with the Jone's...being "one of the herd" ...but they have cool commercials.

[jestephens]

Yeah, our pres. used to ride a valkyrie, my father used to have a shadow...both now own multiple harleys and have spent thousands on accessories...both rarely ride anymore, and have the shop come pick up their bikes, change the oil, detail them, and drop them off at the house when they are done. Dad has had his bike as long as ive had the vaquero, and he has 1000 miles on it, I will hit 7k on the way home today (1st week in Jan. to the last week in Mar.) It just depends on what you want. As far as performance and longevity Kawi has HD whooped...if you want a fancy cam, or bolt on accessories, that can be purchased in a catalog then HD might be for you, their paint is exceptional though...I plan on doing custom pain once the bike is paid for anyway...any other parts I need would also be custom fabbed...harley riders used to have that mind set...some still do, like my Compound brothers down south...Honestly, dad used to be pretty cool, but now he has sold out, even his underwear say HD on them...it isn't about rebelling or freedom anymore, it is about keeping up with the Jone's...being "one of the herd" ...but they have cool commercials.

Some of the shops around here even have "Custom" in their name, but won't touch any project that can't be wholly purchased and bolted on. haha.

[sacarriker]

Thank you!!! It's funny you mention the Voyager vs Vaquero. I have already been getting that from others, but I am firm that I want the Vaquero

Get the green one. It is bad ass! Our local dealer has one with 21 inch wheel on front performane air inductoin system with cover that matches the front wheel, and cobra tri-ovals. The tri ovals match the bags perfectly. My wife loves the comfort of our voyager. If i was riding solo the vaquero is pretty nice.

[Gonzo]

Yeah, our pres. used to ride a valkyrie, my father used to have a shadow...both now own multiple harleys and have spent thousands on accessories...both rarely ride anymore, and have the shop come pick up their bikes, change the oil, detail them, and drop them off at the house when they are done. Dad has had his bike as long as ive had the vaquero, and he has 1000 miles on it, I will hit 7k on the way home today (1st week in Jan. to the last week in Mar.) It just depends on what you want. As far as performance and longevity Kawi has HD whooped...if you want a fancy cam, or bolt on accessories, that can be purchased in a catalog then HD might be for you, their paint is exceptional though...I plan on doing custom pain once the bike is paid for anyway...any other parts I need would also be custom fabbed...harley riders used to have that mind set...some still do, like my Compound brothers down south...Honestly, dad used to be pretty cool, but now he has sold out, even his underwear say HD on them...it isn't about rebelling or freedom anymore, it is about keeping up with the Jone's...being "one of the herd" ...but they have cool commercials.

I have a buddy that has an AWESOME looking street glide with a custom paint job. I think he's put 6 starters on it, and he now has a Victory that he rides any time he is going out of town because the HD quits on him so much. He talks trash about "rice burners" but one day when I was at his house by myself without witnesses he said his first choice was the white/beige voyager but he didn't want the same color bike I got so he got the Victory. Not knocking the HDs, they're ok bikes, but I like to feel confident that I can go on a long distance trip and know with some certainty that my bike is gonna make it.

Oh yeah, plus my bike cost almost 10,000 less than a comparable Harley.

[Monkeyman]

Nothing wrong with the Harleys from the last 15 years or so. They had more issues before that (and tons of issues back in the AMF days). I think it's funny when everyone tries to compare the Electra/Street Glides (or Road Glides) with a Nomad. They aren't supposed to be the same kind of bikes. The Nomad is Kawasakis version of the Road King which is only sort of a touring bike. The Harleys really strong suit is resale value. You can't buy many (any?) metrics, keep them for 5 years then resell them for 80+% of the original price like you can with a Harley. The initial cost of a Harley isn't really that far off a comparable Kawasaki. A new Voyager is $18k. A new Ultra (either Road or Electra Glide) is around $23k. That's only $5k difference. The '09 and up HD touring bikes will run circles around the VV/Nomad, too. The big difference is cooling and details. The Kaws are water cooled and the fit/finish on the Harleys leaves most of the rest in the dust. Go to a big bike night and see if you can find a late model VV next to a late model Road Glide or Electra Glide. You'll see the difference.

I prefer water cooling and the riding position of the Nomad (at least mine) is great but my next bike will probably be a Harley.

[cheriann]

Should be picking up a new 2011 black Vaquero this weekend. I had already made up my mind pretty much after test riding, but this thread pretty much adds the sugar coating to the decision!

That's GREAT!!! I'm so glad this helped you out too!!! I was afraid I was beating a dead horse bringing this up again, when I know the Vaquero has been discussed at length already :yep:

[cheriann]

Get the green one. It is bad ass! Our local dealer has one with 21 inch wheel on front performane air inductoin system with cover that matches the front wheel, and cobra tri-ovals. The tri ovals match the bags perfectly. My wife loves the comfort of our voyager. If i was riding solo the vaquero is pretty nice.

I honestly haven't seen the green one yet. I wonder why they charge another $1,000 on the asking price for that color? :hmm:

[trip]

I fell in love with the green and black Vaquero since attending the Kawasaki Dealers show in Orlando last October. Many don't like that color scheme, but in person, that bike kicks ass. Do you know what bike took the show? The beige and gold Voyager for 2012. Fully loaded, that's one hell of a bike.

My plan is to get a Voyager in the next two years and ride it along with my 2005 Nomad. If my wife didn't ride with me, I'd probably get a Vaq. I think after getting the Voyager, I might trick the Nomad out. Who knows.

I don't want to single anyone out.... :D but CJ, keep in mind where you are and what type of forum you're on. And remember, it's all good.... the main point is that we all ride.

[tazfl]

[QUOTE=trip;424436]I fell in love with the green and black Vaquero since attending the Kawasaki Dealers show in Orlando last October. Many don't like that color scheme, but in person, that bike kicks ass. QUOTE]

I've got to agree, pictures don't do the green / black combo justice...you have got to see it in person...course I might be a little prejudice :)

[mobandy78]

[QUOTE=trip;424436]I fell in love with the green and black Vaquero since attending the Kawasaki Dealers show in Orlando last October. Many don't like that color scheme, but in person, that bike kicks ass. QUOTE]

I've got to agree, pictures don't do the green / black combo justice...you have got to see it in person...course I might be a little prejudice :)


That is a sweet color combo!

[mobandy78]

Get the green one. It is bad ass! Our local dealer has one with 21 inch wheel on front performane air inductoin system with cover that matches the front wheel, and cobra tri-ovals. The tri ovals match the bags perfectly. My wife loves the comfort of our voyager. If i was riding solo the vaquero is pretty nice.

I saw that bike on YouTube! That 21" front wheel makes that bike a sweet looking ride! I think I'd really consider that set up if I can ever get myself to buy a new Vaquero. It really makes the bike look custom!

[cheriann]

[QUOTE=trip;424436]I fell in love with the green and black Vaquero since attending the Kawasaki Dealers show in Orlando last October. Many don't like that color scheme, but in person, that bike kicks ass. QUOTE]

I've got to agree, pictures don't do the green / black combo justice...you have got to see it in person...course I might be a little prejudice :)

That is sharp looking! :D

[cheriann]

It's all becoming so real now!!! Chaz spent the weekend taking off the added chrome parts and replacing the stock parts back on my 900. I can sell all that chrome stuff! He started cleaning it up real good, getting it ready for trade in!!!!! :tup:

[mobandy78]

Congrats!! I bet you're getting really excited now.:tup:

[cactusjack]

I fell in love with the green and black Vaquero since attending the Kawasaki Dealers show in Orlando last October. Many don't like that color scheme, but in person, that bike kicks ass. Do you know what bike took the show? The beige and gold Voyager for 2012. Fully loaded, that's one hell of a bike.

My plan is to get a Voyager in the next two years and ride it along with my 2005 Nomad. If my wife didn't ride with me, I'd probably get a Vaq. I think after getting the Voyager, I might trick the Nomad out. Who knows.

I don't want to single anyone out.... :D but CJ, keep in mind where you are and what type of forum you're on. And remember, it's all good.... the main point is that we all ride.

You know me, Big Guy,,,I just have to stir the pot from time to time. :D

[cheriann]

Congrats!! I bet you're getting really excited now.:tup:

Thanks to all of you that took the time to respond, I am REALLY ready!!!
I ordered the new windshield last week, the ipod hookup a few days ago and a new throttle that is being mailed out today to RACNRAY for the "fix"!!!! :tup:

[RACNRAY]

Thanks to all of you that took the time to respond, I am REALLY ready!!!
I ordered the new windshield last week, the ipod hookup a few days ago and a new throttle that is being mailed out today to RACNRAY for the "fix"!!!! :tup:

YEP...spoke to Spaz this mornin, will be looking for the grip and i'll gitterdun!!

RACNRAY

[cheriann]

YEP...spoke to Spaz this mornin, will be looking for the grip and i'll gitterdun!!

RACNRAY

Thank you SO MUCH!!!!!! :D

[Monkeyman]

Chaz spent the weekend taking off the added chrome parts and replacing the stock parts back on my 900. I can sell all that chrome stuff!

I wouldn't hold my breath. I've (finally) learned that all the mods/chrome/neat stuff not only won't make the bike much more valuable, but will be difficult to sell. When I'm ready to sell, I'll sell it as is. I know I'll lose a ton of money but I do the mod for me, not for resale. The only possible exceptions would be things like a stereo or cruise control. Bottom line is if you paid $100 for a piece of chrome, be happy getting 10 bucks back out of it. Not worth the hassle of taking it off the bike, advertising it, shipping it, etc.

[Loafer]

Oh come on, there are a lot of 900's out there with owners that want to decorate their bikes in chrome.
Finding deals are what it is all about. If you sell it with the bike it will go un cared for and rot, by a un
appreciative owner. If you sell it to someone that wants that part it will live a second life of happiness.

[ringadingh]

I wouldn't hold my breath. I've (finally) learned that all the mods/chrome/neat stuff not only won't make the bike much more valuable, but will be difficult to sell. When I'm ready to sell, I'll sell it as is. I know I'll lose a ton of money but I do the mod for me, not for resale. The only possible exceptions would be things like a stereo or cruise control. Bottom line is if you paid $100 for a piece of chrome, be happy getting 10 bucks back out of it. Not worth the hassle of taking it off the bike, advertising it, shipping it, etc.

That piece of chrome only seems worthless if its mounted on the bike. Buying it aftermarket or used still seems to bring top dollar most times.
Ive been looking and biuying a few parts the last while and its tough to find a bargain.
Ive been looking for a complete HD headlight assembly to mount in the fairing and they are priced quite high for what they are.

[RACNRAY]

WAIT...I just thought the only CON of a Vaquero IS NOT OWNING ONE!!

Do i hear a Hallelujah??!!

RACNRAY

[Monkeyman]

Other than a few misc parts that aren't made anymore (like the inner cover), I just don't see too many chrome pieces selling for much. I suppose if you're willing to wait for the right buyer. On the other hand, I've got a chrome rear brake cylinder cover for sale. (First $80 takes it.)

[bearbait]

Somebody tell me more about this throttle "fix", please.

And cheriann, have you gotten your Vaquero already?

[SkinnyPedal]

X2 on the throttle fix. :hmm:

[jestephens]

WAIT...I just thought the only CON of a Vaquero IS NOT OWNING ONE!!

Do i hear a Hallelujah??!!

RACNRAY

...sung by a choir of angels!

and the people said, "Amen"
http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/religion/t0823.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-religion.php)

-Jay

[cheriann]

I wouldn't hold my breath. I've (finally) learned that all the mods/chrome/neat stuff not only won't make the bike much more valuable, but will be difficult to sell. When I'm ready to sell, I'll sell it as is. I know I'll lose a ton of money but I do the mod for me, not for resale. The only possible exceptions would be things like a stereo or cruise control. Bottom line is if you paid $100 for a piece of chrome, be happy getting 10 bucks back out of it. Not worth the hassle of taking it off the bike, advertising it, shipping it, etc.

Fortunately, I'm not holding my breath, but I am not feeling hopeless about it either. We didn't take off major parts, like the engine guards, but we did take off the chrome radiator cover, the decorated side cover, etc.... Just yesterday, on a group bike ride (the last one on my 900) I had a guy looking at my engine guards to see if they would fit his older 1500 classic and asked if I was willing to sell the windshield. The guards didn't fit on his bike. I'm not looking for what I paid, of course, but even $10 is $10 more than I would have gotten leaving it on the bike.

[cheriann]

Oh come on, there are a lot of 900's out there with owners that want to decorate their bikes in chrome.
Finding deals are what it is all about. If you sell it with the bike it will go un cared for and rot, by a un
appreciative owner. If you sell it to someone that wants that part it will live a second life of happiness.

My feelings too...

[cheriann]

wait...i just thought the only con of a vaquero is not owning one!!

Do i hear a hallelujah??!!

Racnray


hallelujah!!!!!!

[cheriann]

Okay, I have a question....somebody told me yesterday that they owned a 2009 model 1700 Kawasaki (didn't say which, but I am guessing Nomad???) and got rid of it!!! He said the engines cause too much heat and are uncomfortable to ride in the summer.
Is it true??? :hmm:

[cheriann]

Somebody tell me more about this throttle "fix", please.

And cheriann, have you gotten your Vaquero already?

I first read about it in the Vaquero Owners thread in here. It's talked about right away....page 2 I think....then it was brought up again here in my thread. RACNRAY does the modification.

I don't have my Vaquero yet.....but hubby has already talked to the salesman and made the deal. We pick it up next Saturday. You don't think I'm anxious do you?!!!! LOL!

[bearbait]

Okay, I have a question....somebody told me yesterday that they owned a 2009 model 1700 Kawasaki (didn't say which, but I am guessing Nomad???) and got rid of it!!! He said the engines cause too much heat and are uncomfortable to ride in the summer.
Is it true??? :hmm:

I have heard that said about the earlier Voyagers. Doesn't seem to be true about the Vaquero (2011 model, at least).

[aldridgekennedy]

Okay, I have a question....somebody told me yesterday that they owned a 2009 model 1700 Kawasaki (didn't say which, but I am guessing Nomad???) and got rid of it!!! He said the engines cause too much heat and are uncomfortable to ride in the summer.
Is it true??? :hmm:

I'm finding this is very subjective area. I rode home from work last week in 92 degree weather. It involved a lot of traffic congestion and i have to wear a suit to work every day. To me my vaquero does not put out an excess amount of heat. I really don't pay much attention to it. I hope this helps.......

[cocheese72]

Okay, I have a question....somebody told me yesterday that they owned a 2009 model 1700 Kawasaki (didn't say which, but I am guessing Nomad???) and got rid of it!!! He said the engines cause too much heat and are uncomfortable to ride in the summer.
Is it true??? :hmm:

I would bet that any new bike under EPA regs is going to run hot as hell until the owner opens it up with pipes, air, and fuel.

[tazfl]

Fortunately, I'm not holding my breath, but I am not feeling hopeless about it either. We didn't take off major parts, like the engine guards, but we did take off the chrome radiator cover, the decorated side cover, etc.... Just yesterday, on a group bike ride (the last one on my 900) I had a guy looking at my engine guards to see if they would fit his older 1500 classic and asked if I was willing to sell the windshield. The guards didn't fit on his bike. I'm not looking for what I paid, of course, but even $10 is $10 more than I would have gotten leaving it on the bike.

you shouldn't have any problems selling accessories you removed from your previous bike. On another vulcan forum that i post on regularly people are selling removed accessories all the time and they usually go pretty fast. As long as your asking a fair price and they're in good shape they should sell. If it was a $80.00 accessory new and your asking $20 or $30 I think it should sell. People are always looking for deals. Course you'll have a hard time selling accessories for your 900 here, you'll need to go to another forum for that that has allot of 900 owners. the main thing is you'll be making at least some money off your accessories instead of just giving them away with the bike.

[jestephens]

I would bet that any new bike under EPA regs is going to run hot as hell until the owner opens it up with pipes, air, and fuel.

I've only changed the exhaust and have found tremendous relief in heat.

It's true the Vaquero will be hotter than your 900 if not for size alone, but I found it notably hotter than my '05 Nomad. That said, 2009 was the first year of the 1700 engine and that's when heat issues were noticed and, for lack of a better term, remedied through some recalls and design changes for subsequent years.

The 1700 exhaust system has the catalytic converters built into the mufflers. The cats are HOT themselves, and restrict exhaust flow which further retains heat.
I still didn't consider it a "must have" modification, but if budget allows it is a very strong "like to have" upgrade.

Best of Luck!

[bearbait]

I've only changed the exhaust and have found tremendous relief in heat.

What did you change to?

[jestephens]

I did some custom work with some sport bike mufflers ;0)

http://www.vulcanbagger.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24830

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w117/jestephens/Vaquero%201700/Vaquero_finishingtouches.jpg

[cactusjack]

I've only changed the exhaust and have found tremendous relief in heat.

It's true the Vaquero will be hotter than your 900 if not for size alone, but I found it notably hotter than my '05 Nomad. That said, 2009 was the first year of the 1700 engine and that's when heat issues were noticed and, for lack of a better term, remedied through some recalls and design changes for subsequent years.

The 1700 exhaust system has the catalytic converters built into the mufflers. The cats are HOT themselves, and restrict exhaust flow which further retains heat.
I still didn't consider it a "must have" modification, but if budget allows it is a very strong "like to have" upgrade.

Best of Luck!

I would think having the cats in the mufflers would keep the heat away from you. The cat in my Harley pipes are right beside and slightly behind my right foot. I do feel the heat off that, especially in traffic. I don't want to get rid of it due to emissions testing required for motorcycles in the county I live in.

[Dave]

The cat in my Harley pipes are right beside and slightly behind my right foot. I do feel the heat off that, especially in traffic.

I don't feel a thing on my bike.:D

[jestephens]

all I can say is, it helped with the heat issue. For whatever reason.

My new carbon-fiber body mufflers are cool as a cucumber. Yesterday was 90+ degrees, and I stopped for gas a little over 100 miles into the day. Knowing my system is experimental and custom, I still grabbed the belly of the muffler flat handed to check it was still mounted securely. That's the CF more than anything, but I'm lovin' it.

[Gonzo]

Okay, I have a question....somebody told me yesterday that they owned a 2009 model 1700 Kawasaki (didn't say which, but I am guessing Nomad???) and got rid of it!!! He said the engines cause too much heat and are uncomfortable to ride in the summer.
Is it true??? :hmm:

I have a buddy that has a 2009 Voyager and he is always saying how hot it is. I have a 2012 Voyager and it doesn't seem that hot to me. It's a little warmer than my 900LT was, but doesn't seem overly hot for the engine size. About the only time my fan kicks on is when I am in traffic.

[gnomad]

I have a buddy that has a 2009 Voyager and he is always saying how hot it is. I have a 2012 Voyager and it doesn't seem that hot to me.

The 2012 differs from the 09 in that it has a "Kawasaki Air Management System" that uses a fan and some ductwork to draw heat from the rear cylinder and blows it out under the passenger floorboards.

Back on track almost, saw the green Vaquero Saturday when I bought my 2012 Voyager. That is one good looking bike!

[galax83061]

I have heard that said about the earlier Voyagers. Doesn't seem to be true about the Vaquero (2011 model, at least).


My 2011 Vaquero gets really hot. You can feel the heat just coming off of it. I was told they run hot and are a great heater in the winter lol.

[element80]

My 2011 Vaquero gets really hot. You can feel the heat just coming off of it. I was told they run hot and are a great heater in the winter lol.

truth ^^^

[Monkeyman]

So, how difficult would it be to adapt that Kawasaki Air Management System to an older model?

[Loafer]

I don't feel a thing on my bike.:D

Vibrations getting worse?:tehe:

[cheriann]

Thank you for answering my concern about the heat from the engine.
It looks like the 2009 to 2011 has that, but not the 2012. I'll find out! :yep:

[gnomad]

So, how difficult would it be to adapt that Kawasaki Air Management System to an older model?

I don't know if it could be done or not, the parts for the fan and duct assembly run about $300. I am not sure if there are any extra parts up front by the radiator. When I get my 2012 beside my brother-in-laws 2011 we will likely do some measuring and see if it can be retrofitted.

[tazfl]

I don't know if it could be done or not, the parts for the fan and duct assembly run about $300. I am not sure if there are any extra parts up front by the radiator. When I get my 2012 beside my brother-in-laws 2011 we will likely do some measuring and see if it can be retrofitted.

don't quote me on this but i thought I read somewhere (either this forum or another) where someone said that the wiring harness was different to accomodate for the extra fan.

[RACNRAY]

YEP...spoke to Spaz this mornin, will be looking for the grip and i'll gitterdun!!

RACNRAY

Cheriann...Your grip went out today with the mail, you should see it in a couple of days.

One request...that you ride the new skoot for at least a few hundred miles to get a feel for the overall operation of the throttle and engine response before the modified grip is installed. When installing the new grip don't do ANY other mods at that time. Also proper throttle cable adjustment should be done, there is a post on another forum i can copy/paste and post here if anyone wants that info.

That way you have a good baseline of acquired info to compare the mod to, and report any changes you feel. I appreciate any and all feedback from peeps using this mod, and whatever results you feel helps educate us all.

THANX
RACNRAY

[spazz]

Cheriann...Your grip went out today with the mail, you should see it in a couple of days.

One request...that you ride the new skoot for at least a few hundred miles to get a feel for the overall operation of the throttle and engine response before the modified grip is installed. When installing the new grip don't do ANY other mods at that time. Also proper throttle cable adjustment should be done, there is a post on another forum i can copy/paste and post here if anyone wants that info.

That way you have a good baseline of acquired info to compare the mod to, and report any changes you feel. I appreciate any and all feedback from peeps using this mod, and whatever results you feel helps educate us all.

THANX
RACNRAY


RACNRAY can you copy and paste that thread for me. I will be doing the install and any other necessities would be appreciated so that I do it right the first time.

[RACNRAY]

RACNRAY can you copy and paste that thread for me. I will be doing the install and any other necessities would be appreciated so that I do it right the first time.

HERE YA GO...

This is in response to requests for this info. I will also include instructions on proper throttle cable adjustment which neither the factory or the dealer knows how to perform!!

#1...park the bike with it in gear to minimize any oopsies from the skoot rolling off the sidestand.

#2...lay a towel over the gas tank to minimize damage to it.

#3...locate the rubber dust covers on both throttle cable adjusters and slide them forward away from the adjusters.

#4...using a 8 and a 10 mm wrench, loosen the two 10mm locknuts(one for each cable) and thread it towards the elbow of the cable. Thread the adjuster all the way to the locknut. This will create alot of slack in the cables and you will have alot of play in the throttle. This will help in removing the cables from the throttle tube itself.

#5...remove the two phillips screws from the top of the throttle housing and remove the top plate also. Locate and remove the phillips screw from the bottom front of the housing, this screw head faces forward.

#6...pull apart the housing halves and you will see the two cables ends and how they are attached to the throttle tube assembly.The barrel ends of the cables reside in round recepticles, those have a slot in them which will allow the cable end to be removed. using a pair of needle nose pliers carefully grab one of the cables, lift up on the cable and slide it to where it is even with the slot in the throttle tube, and then slide the cable and barrel end out, repeat this for the other cable end. NOTE...be careful, as soon as the cable is free from the throttle tube it and the housing it is connected to will fall away, make sure it does not.

#7...installation is the reversal with the following...a little bit of grease or lube in the cable attachment recepticles on the throttle tube and some CRC/WD-40 sprayed on the handlebar and into the throttle tube will make operation smoother. I also use never-sieze on the threads of the housing screws to minimze the potential of these seizing. NOTE...the front half of the housing has a pin protruding from the housing, this pin fits into a hole drilled into the handlebar. MAKE SURE these line up or the housings will not line up properly.

#8...ADJUSTMENT...with everything back together make sure that the throttle grip turns freely, it will have some play in it. At this point if you roll the throttle forward you will feel it stop, it will be a positive stop. The tube is bottoming out in the housing, and the first adjustment is to eliminate this.
Using the adjuster on the rear cable, turn out the adjuster as you "feel" the play in the throttle grip,as you turn out the adjuster you will feel less and less play in the grip. Continue turning out this adjuster untill you have about 3/16" rotational play in the grip. At this point if you roll the grip froward you should no longer feel a positive stop, but will feel tension, you are pulling on the closing cable and that is what we want. Using the 8 & 10 mm wrenches thread the lock nut up to the adjuster and lock the two together. With the handlebars in the straight ahead position thread the adjuster out on the front cable and further reduce the play in the grip. The object here is to have as little play in the grip as possible without binding the cables which will cause the throttle to stick. VERY IMPORTANT HERE...TURN THE HANDLEBARS FULL LOCK LEFT, CHECK FOR PLAY, TURN THE BARS FULL LOCK RIGHT AND CHECK FOR PLAY. The handlebars at full lock in one direction the play will either stay the same or have more play than in the straight ahead position, at opposite full lock play may get LESS, and this is where you must be extremely careful to have play so the grip will close on it's own. Once the adjustement has been done lock the adjuster. I recomend starting the engine, allowing it to come to temp and "blipping" the throttle at all handlebar positions to ensure the rpm drops properly with no "hanging" up. Slide the dust covers back on.

I will be glad to walk thru this by phone so don't hesitate to call.

THANX
RACNRAY

[redjay]

I seem to remember hearing that in addition to the ductwork on the 2012 Voyagers to reduce the heat the radiator is also larger ? A guy on the Delphi forum (Mucker) has bought the parts required to do the retrofit to his 2010 ? Dont think he bought the rad though.

[jestephens]

RACNRAY can you copy and paste that thread for me. I will be doing the install and any other necessities would be appreciated so that I do it right the first time.

I installed my grips from RACNRAY yesterday. I was amazed at the difference. It gives a sense of more power, even though nothing was done to the engine, fuel, or exhaust. Love it.
Thanks Ray!

-Jay

[RACNRAY]

I installed my grips from RACNRAY yesterday. I was amazed at the difference. It gives a sense of more power, even though nothing was done to the engine, fuel, or exhaust. Love it.
Thanks Ray!

-Jay

THAT'S GREAT...ENJOY, and thanx for the feedback.

RACNRAY

[cheriann]

Cheriann...Your grip went out today with the mail, you should see it in a couple of days.

One request...that you ride the new skoot for at least a few hundred miles to get a feel for the overall operation of the throttle and engine response before the modified grip is installed. When installing the new grip don't do ANY other mods at that time. Also proper throttle cable adjustment should be done, there is a post on another forum i can copy/paste and post here if anyone wants that info.

That way you have a good baseline of acquired info to compare the mod to, and report any changes you feel. I appreciate any and all feedback from peeps using this mod, and whatever results you feel helps educate us all.

THANX
RACNRAY

WOO HOO!!!! Thank you SO MUCH!!!! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/CheriKarp/Emicons/Hugs/l_hug.gif

[cheriann]

I installed my grips from RACNRAY yesterday. I was amazed at the difference. It gives a sense of more power, even though nothing was done to the engine, fuel, or exhaust. Love it.
Thanks Ray!

-Jay

Everybody that gets this from RACNRAY just raves about it!!! I can't wait to feel the difference myself....after I ride with the stock throttle for a few hundred miles, like he asked me to do http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/CheriKarp/Emicons/A%20Okay/ok.gif

[AZ Voyager]

If I read this correct Cheriann is getting a Vaquero, even the 2012 Vaquero does not have the KAMS, only the 2012 Voyager is equipped with this system. Other forums have reported trying to retrofit to earlier Voyagers, and have found that it is VERY Pricey for the parts, and the radiator is farther forward so the radiator shroud would not fit...I find that the KAMS works well on the 2012 Voyager, I am currently riding in 95 to 100 degree temps in AZ now, and don't feel the heat.

[cheriann]

If I read this correct Cheriann is getting a Vaquero, even the 2012 Vaquero does not have the KAMS, only the 2012 Voyager is equipped with this system. Other forums have reported trying to retrofit to earlier Voyagers, and have found that it is VERY Pricey for the parts, and the radiator is farther forward so the radiator shroud would not fit...I find that the KAMS works well on the 2012 Voyager, I am currently riding in 95 to 100 degree temps in AZ now, and don't feel the heat.

You read it right! I just like the styling and looks of the Vaquero better than the Voyager http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/CheriKarp/Emicons/Love/PigletAnimated.gif

[AZ Voyager]

Cheriann.. I don't blame you a bit, I wanted the new Green one, it is a sweet looking ride, pictures don't do it justice. but had to make the wife comfy, and I am VERY happy with the Voyager. I am sure you will love the Vaquero...

[ironhead1977]

Cheriann do not pay attention to these folks that talk about heat issues.I have a 2011 Vaquero in Florida and it absolutely does not put out heat. Just so you know the low speed fuelling will get a lot better as the engine starts to break in. Mine took about 2500 miles before it started getting better. You will be thrilled with the Vaquero.

[tazfl]

ironhead, what part of florida are you in? I'm in jacksonville.

[ironhead1977]

I'm in Vero Beach.

[spazz]

Okay, the money is in the bank. Cheri gets her new bike tomorrow morning. As soon as the Dealer opens today, I will have the bike pulled from the Showroom floor. I am going to have the Aux. lights added to the Fairing. I think I may be more excited than she is....

[Loafer]

Yahoo!!!!

[mobandy78]

Sweeeeeet!!! Can't wait to see pics of the new ride!!

[cheriann]

Cheriann do not pay attention to these folks that talk about heat issues.I have a 2011 Vaquero in Florida and it absolutely does not put out heat. Just so you know the low speed fuelling will get a lot better as the engine starts to break in. Mine took about 2500 miles before it started getting better. You will be thrilled with the Vaquero.

Thank you so much!!!! :tup:

[cheriann]

Oh, here's a REALLY big question.....will my Vaquero go faster than Chaz's 2007 Nomad?!!!! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/CheriKarp/Emicons/Happy/girlzungerausud5.gif

[mobandy78]

Of course! Nomad's are just slow, everyone knows that. :lol: