Vulcan 2000, Vaquero or rebuild Nomad?

[patmahoney]

Hey Guys,

I went down pretty hard last weekend, my O2 Nomad has about $6000 in damage. I have been weighing my options and have narrowed it down to either getting a used Vulcan 2000, a new Vaquero or repairing the Nomad. The 2000 I could pay cash, but was wondering if they are they as reliable as the Nomads? Vaquero I would have to finance some but I have liked them since they came out, do they have any inherent problems or issues? I hesitate repairing the Nomad because it has 67,000 miles on it, otherwise I would probably go that route.

I know ultimately I have to do what I feel is right for me, but I am curious what would others do in my situation?

Thanks

[cactusjack]

I know a few guys who own VN2000's and they don't seem to be as trouble free as the Nomads. They also have known stator issues. They are very powerful bikes, though. They are discontinued, so that may or may not be a concern to you.

Personally, I don't buy used bikes so I'd go for something new, but that's just me.

[GIBBY]

Happy that you seem to be o.k. after going down hard. $6000 in damage on a 2002 has to be damn close to a total. If you have been pining for a new Vaquero now is the time. You can get great deals on a new 2011.

[Top Cat]

Happy that you seem to be o.k. after going down hard. $6000 in damage on a 2002 has to be damn close to a total. If you have been pining for a new Vaquero now is the time. You can get great deals on a new 2011.
:yep:

[patmahoney]

Happy that you seem to be o.k. after going down hard. $6000 in damage on a 2002 has to be damn close to a total. If you have been pining for a new Vaquero now is the time. You can get great deals on a new 2011.

Thanks, I broke my collar bone and banged up my hip, but by all accounts was pretty lucky. And am now a strong proponent of helmets. At $7000 is where they will total it(higher than I expected), received initial payment from Progressive adjuster for just under 6000 the bike is in the Kawa dealer shop to see if the is any further damage.

[landman]

my vote would be for the vaquero.

[elvis]

Thanks, I broke my collar bone and banged up my hip, but by all accounts was pretty lucky. And am now a strong proponent of helmets. At $7000 is where they will total it(higher than I expected), received initial payment from Progressive adjuster for just under 6000 the bike is in the Kawa dealer shop to see if the is any further damage.

It's great to hear you're fine and looking to fix or buy another bike.

My vote goes to Vaquero also.

[ringadingh]

The 2000's also have had piston ring problems at about 30k from what Ive read.

[DarkStar]

Don't let this image of my new Vaquero in any way sway your opinion... :lmao:

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/DarkStarShooter/003.jpg

[GIBBY]

If I was a betting man I would bet that they did NOT find all the damage in the first estimate, they seldom do on broken motorcycles. Take the money and run and buy a new Vaquero.

[patmahoney]

Don't let this image of my new Vaquero in any way sway your opinion... :lmao:

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu301/DarkStarShooter/003.jpg

Nice ride!! I have been walking by two Vaqueros for the past year every time I've gone to the dealer, I always take a little time to check them out.

[patmahoney]

The 2000's also have had piston ring problems at about 30k from what Ive read.

Good to know, most I have been looking at have 10,000 miles on them, so I would have to start worrying about the rings next year.

Thanks for the info.

[cnc]

Good to hear you are mostly OK. You have to know the market in your area, but I would think a 2002 with 67000 miles would be very hard to sell for $6000. If the insurance is offering $6000 for repairs and you can take the money instead, I would be thinking, nothing to brighten ones spirit like a new ride.

[dholmer]

How about a new Nomad??? I really like the look of the Vaqueros, but I havent investigated them enough to see if you can ride two up, long distance... If you do ride two up, you may want to investigate to see if they offer a Back rest and a different seat..

[highwayman2011]

Get the Vaquero!

[redjay]

If you are a solo rider, get the Vaquero, otherwise go for the Voyager. Both great bikes.

[Top Cat]

Wow, I can't believe they will not total a2002 with 67,000 miles ont untill it is over $7000 in damage.
When I sell my 07 the asking price is going up.:D

[BudMan]

I have an 02' Nomad I'm going to sell when I get back from Key West.
It's got 29k on it. I'd take half of that $7000.
I guess prices are a lot lower here in the hills of Arkansas. :shrug:

[patmahoney]

If you are a solo rider, get the Vaquero, otherwise go for the Voyager. Both great bikes.

Not sure how much two up riding I will be doing in the future, though she was not with me when I went down, Margaret is not sure she wants to continue to ride. Seeing me all cut up and damaged shook her up. But I am now thinking Vaquero or Voyager. I saw some pics of a Voyager with the trunk removed, it looked pretty nice and has the ABS which may have made a difference when I went down.

Some of you guys got me thinking, if some one had offered me 6000 to 7000 for my Nomad a couple of weeks age I would have jumped at it. Progressive has said whether they total the bike or not the money is mine to with what I want. I am not required to fix the bike if it is not totaled.

[Monkeyman]

I'd take the money AND the bike. You can always sell the bike dirt cheap or part out what's left. Got any pics of the bike?

[patmahoney]

I'd take the money AND the bike. You can always sell the bike dirt cheap or part out what's left. Got any pics of the bike?

No pics, my niece took a couple but they are in Mac format and I can't get them to open. I thought about keeping the bike and just doing minimal work to make her rode worthy. It would look more like a classic than a Nomad, but would give me time to look around for a new ride without loosing the season.

[jendesigner]

patmahoney if she took pics more then likely they are jpegs, if for some reason they don't have the .jpg on the extensions just add it and you should be fine (there is no such thing as a mac format, but PC's do need an extension to open). If that doesn't work PM me and I will be glad to post them for you.

[blowndodge]

Wow, I can't believe they will not total a2002 with 67,000 miles ont untill it is over $7000 in damage.
When I sell my 07 the asking price is going up.:D



Just don't tell anybody your maintanence record! :wtf::tehe:

[patmahoney]

patmahoney if she took pics more then likely they are jpegs, if for some reason they don't have the .jpg on the extensions just add it and you should be fine (there is no such thing as a mac format, but PC's do need an extension to open). If that doesn't work PM me and I will be glad to post them for you.

Thanks.

Here is what she got, can't see too much

http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss188/patricksnomad/Nomad%20Post%20crash/?albumview=slideshow

[mobandy78]

Ouch! Those are some pretty big scrapes! Did you try and flip it?! :wtf: There are scrapes on the top of the bags. I think you were trying to pull some stunts or something... some wheelies or stoppies. :lmao:

I'd keep the bike, take the money and sell the parts if you can. You might even be able to transfer some of the basic gadgets and add-ons to your next bike.

[ponch]

Vaquero. 1700's have been known to last at least 160K miles. Try to find a 2000 that lasts that long. I've read they use oil after a while.

[Monkeyman]

Not much to compare to as the 1700s have only been out for 3 years. Can't see many that would have 160k miles in that time.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

I would go with the new ride also. I'm with Cactusjack in that I have never purchased a used bike. I have purchased used autos but sometimes you get burned. Think you would just be better off with the new beautiful bike.

[ponch]

Not much to compare to as the 1700s have only been out for 3 years. Can't see many that would have 160k miles in that time.

We have a guy on this board that has over 200K KM on his. I've read several instances where 2000's were huffing oil from 30-60K miles. In the 30K mile case, the engine needed new pistons and rings. Again, I haven't read this about the 1700 or 1600. The other thing is that the 1700 can be had with cruise control, ABS and other amenities that the 2000 doesn't have. I would also venture that the 1700 is a better handling bike too.

[patmahoney]

Ouch! Those are some pretty big scrapes! Did you try and flip it?! :wtf: There are scrapes on the top of the bags. I think you were trying to pull some stunts or something... some wheelies or stoppies. :lmao:

I'd keep the bike, take the money and sell the parts if you can. You might even be able to transfer some of the basic gadgets and add-ons to your next bike.

No stunts. I don't remember too much about the accident. According to the Police report The Nomad and I were sliding together on the right side, then the bike flipped and threw me, both continued to slide until I stopped and the Nomad landed on me. Based on the scrapes it looks like the Nomad was sliding backwards at some point and the marks on the top of the bags came from the curb.

All I can say for sure, I hit the brakes.... I woke up in the ambulance.

[patmahoney]

Well the final verdict is in on my 02, $6350.00 ish, And I will keep the bike. Still have not not decided which way I will go, but at least I now know what I am working with.

Found out the reason the bike was not totaled was that I had the accessory coverage, so all the mods added value above the base value.

Also have to say Progressive has been great to work with, if anyone is looking for insurance.

[Monkeyman]

As long as they cut you a check in your name only (as opposed to you AND the shop), you'll be fine. They shouldn't even give you a salvage title if they're not going to total it.

[patmahoney]

As long as they cut you a check in your name only (as opposed to you AND the shop), you'll be fine. They shouldn't even give you a salvage title if they're not going to total it.

They already gave me 5800, the rest is on its way. I am free to do whatever I want, fix it part it out or whatever. Figure I sit tight until May when I am all healed up and capable of doing some test rides on the Voyager and Vaquero.

Thanks to all for your thoughts, was really helpful to get input from you all!

[Tiger J]

Progressive automatically covers up to $3000 in accessories. And from the incidents I have been privy to, they just automatically throw that money in on claims. If it were not for the rider's safety and well-being... the best thing that could happen come time to get a new bike would be to wreck the old one. Progressive would pay better than any trade-in offer and probably better than any private sale!

[Netnorske]

Hope you heal up quickly and get that new Vaquero or Voyager soon!

[hammer]

Most important, you made it and are healing up. You are looking to ride again and that's great too. Good for you.

I tried a 2000. Rode like a truck. Vaquero and part out/sell off the Nomad.

By the way Gibby, that's a great looking Victory.

[minst7877]

Thanks, I broke my collar bone and banged up my hip, but by all accounts was pretty lucky. And am now a strong proponent of helmets. At $7000 is where they will total it(higher than I expected), received initial payment from Progressive adjuster for just under 6000 the bike is in the Kawa dealer shop to see if the is any further damage.

Make sure they properly fix your collar bone and don't let them just put you in a figure 8 brace. Expecially if it was a displaced fracture. Been there done that and the results were further surgery and cutting the misaligned bone apart and resetting it with a plate and screws. Not a fun time.

DC

[deacon]

Well ...... I can't offer much advice from first hand experience. But having said that, I like the Vaquero. But if you plan to modify the seat and add a back rest it will (in my humble opinion) ruin the look of the bike. Nice hat in signature pic!

[patmahoney]

Thanks for all the advice and well wishes! All seems to be healing well, itching to get riding! Seems like everyone was out this past weekend.

I think it will be the Vaquero, probably won't pull the trigger until May. Still hoping to make my Montana ride in August.

Ride Safe!

[patmahoney]

Well ...... I can't offer much advice from first hand experience. But having said that, I like the Vaquero. But if you plan to modify the seat and add a back rest it will (in my humble opinion) ruin the look of the bike. Nice hat in signature pic!

Agree, the bike looks best as is. They make a quick release back rest so you only throw it on when needed and I won't ride two up without a passenger speed bump.

Let's hope they figure out how to win one soon!

[element80]

Agree, the bike looks best as is. They make a quick release back rest so you only throw it on when needed and I won't ride two up without a passenger speed bump.

Let's hope they figure out how to win one soon!

Got some Bros with V2Ks...they burn oil and need to be resleeved and have new piston rings installed...They are powerful though. I love my Vaquero...I have the quick release sissy bar, and adding the luggage rack attachment to it tomorrow...headed on a 5 day trip next week. May eventually add an aftermarket trunk to the luggage rack, that way I can go from dresser to bagger in about 2 seconds...it's a sweet ride, but coming from a honda sabre, there are lots of plastic and painted surfaces on this bike, so keeping it clean is more of a chore, and it can have a styrofoam cooler squeek in parking lots on speed bumps or on poor roads, but the pipes, air kit and speakers drown it out...fantastic bike...I prefer it to my dad's street glide, and the Vic X Country

[patmahoney]

Got some Bros with V2Ks...they burn oil and need to be resleeved and have new piston rings installed...They are powerful though. I love my Vaquero...I have the quick release sissy bar, and adding the luggage rack attachment to it tomorrow...headed on a 5 day trip next week. May eventually add an aftermarket trunk to the luggage rack, that way I can go from dresser to bagger in about 2 seconds...it's a sweet ride, but coming from a honda sabre, there are lots of plastic and painted surfaces on this bike, so keeping it clean is more of a chore, and it can have a styrofoam cooler squeek in parking lots on speed bumps or on poor roads, but the pipes, air kit and speakers drown it out...fantastic bike...I prefer it to my dad's street glide, and the Vic X Country

Thanks for the info, it will be the Vaquero for me soon. Enjoy your ride, 5 days sounds great where ya headed?

[ringadingh]

I would go with the new ride also. I'm with Cactusjack in that I have never purchased a used bike. I have purchased used autos but sometimes you get burned. Think you would just be better off with the new beautiful bike.
Ive never had a new bike the last forty years, and they have all been good, except for one. My 81 Suzuki 750 developed a knock in the lower end, I bought another motor from a wrecked bike, and by the next season it started knocking as well. It turned out it was a bad design of the crank bearings and all the 750 motors were having that problem. I traded the bike in on a 1100 Suzuki and it was an awesome bike.

[ringadingh]

Well the final verdict is in on my 02, $6350.00 ish, And I will keep the bike. Still have not not decided which way I will go, but at least I now know what I am working with.
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Thats sounds like a very good settlement. You should be able to fix it. My bike looked like a real mess after the accident, but once all the broken fairings and beerbox came off, it didn't seem near as bad. It still took a bunch of straightening and replacing stuff but the bike is now back on the road and running again. I still need to paint it plus install a few bits and pieces but at least its rideable.

[patmahoney]

Thats sounds like a very good settlement. You should be able to fix it. My bike looked like a real mess after the accident, but once all the broken fairings and beerbox came off, it didn't seem near as bad. It still took a bunch of straightening and replacing stuff but the bike is now back on the road and running again. I still need to paint it plus install a few bits and pieces but at least its rideable.

I think I would rather put the money toward another bike, before the accident I was thinking I would need to get something new next year anyway. If I decide to take her off the road permanently maybe I could help you out with some bits and pieces. I will let you know once I know for sure what I am going to do.

[ringadingh]

That is the best idea, your due for a new bike.
Are the forks ok or damaged?

[patmahoney]

That is the best idea, your due for a new bike.
Are the forks ok or damaged?

Will know later this week when I get the bike home. Insurance guy thought they were not damaged.