SpeedoHealer

[scion0]

??? Ok, how many folks have this mod vs. the new tires? Next question, does the fact that the speed is about 5 miles off make the odometer and/or wrong as well? Like to have the correct speed but like having 100 dollars more... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

I can subtract 5 (most of the time) but if it affects other readings and such, it may be worth it to get it done and over with (installed that is).

HELP....

[dogdoc]

YES, if your speedo is off 5-10% so will your odometer, which means more miles when you want to trade/sell. They make a gizmo I seen some place that will tune your speedo to accurate and it wasn't too pricey, $100? new tires are still not going to make the gauges 100% accurate.

Doc

[scion0]

YES, if your speedo is off 5-10% so will your odometer, which means more miles when you want to trade/sell. They make a gizmo I seen some place that will tune your speedo to accurate and it wasn't too pricey, $100? new tires are still not going to make the gauges 100% accurate.

Doc

Thanks, that was what I was looking at, the SpeedoHealer, 95.99 for the Nomad. My buddy here at work has a Honda and is speedometer was off by 14%. It looks easy enough for even me to install.

Do you have it installed?

Seems worth having! Why don't we all have one? We'll find we're not riding as far as we thought...... as fast as we thought....... and with worse gas mileage!!!

[Todd]

Seems worth having! Why don't we all have one? We'll find we're not riding as far as we thought...... as fast as we thought....... and with worse gas mileage!!!

Now I'm just depressed http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[blowndodge]

and a screwed up saddlebag???

Uhh... you mean I'm not getting 42mpg cruising at 80mph??

<marquee>DEVASTATING!!!!</marquee>


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[finky]

I just put a tacho on mine and ride by the revs,2350rpm= 60mph

And what does the speedo say Finky at 2350rpms?

[Todd]

Uhh... you mean I'm not getting 42mpg cruising at 80mph??

<marquee>DEVASTATING!!!!</marquee>


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

Nope .. down to 40.6234 now.....dammit!!!!

Sh*t. I get 35mpg....... uncorrected!!!!

[finky]

On mine 110kph thats about 65mph

So yours isn't off too bad..... do you have the oversized tire?

[finky]

Yep run ME880 so it puts me about 5kph out

Very cool.... if mine was only off that much..... I'd be happy!

and a screwed up saddlebag???

WHEN DID YOU SNEAK THIS POST IN????????? I NEVER SAW IT!! LOL

[finky]

The speed side does not bother me mutch its the extra Ks on the odometer I hate do enough now with out adding more through error.

The speed side does not bother me mutch its the extra Ks on the odometer I hate do enough now with out adding more through error.

Wait Finky.... had to get my Australian-American English dictionary out................

Are the RPM's accurate and have nothing to do with the speedo error?

[Todd]

Yep run ME880 so it puts me about 5kph out


Thats my next move...I'm almost to Groundhog tread depth...(NONE) and I'll be putting an 880 radial on the back of mine.

[finky]

RPMs are accurate just the speedo is out

Gotcha! Thanks Finkster!

btw. how can you only have 42 posts???

[finky]

Don't get enough time sometime out riding to much.LOL

[blowndodge]

He's not a Post Ho like Um..............ahhhhhh??????

Joined: Jul 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 609
Location: Lakewood California
Karma: -281

huh?

[finky]

Nah not yet anyway leave that to you guy's LOL

[blowndodge]

Same way I sneeked that other post in without you knowing! Damn.....now his smites are big!!

I dunno finkster. you're geting pretty talkative.... ya never know!!!

[Todd]

He's not a Post Ho like Um..............ahhhhhh??????

<marquee>http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/Nick_Nomad.jpg</marquee>

[finky]

Might have to get on a bit more often and give you guy's a bit of a push along not that you need it.ROFLOL

[blowndodge]

Hey Finkster, You look like a big guy on the Nomad like me. I can trim up that ahh...gut of yours and take off a few LB's. Not that you want to. I'm just feeling generous!!!

[blowndodge]

Yes Nomad Owners. Meet America's Biggest Loser on his Nomad! The new skinnier Finkmeister!!

<marquee>http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/blowndodge/finkfooter2.jpg</marquee>

Yes Nomad Owners. Meet America's Biggest Loser on his Nomad! The new skinnier Finkmeister!!

<marquee>http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/blowndodge/finkfooter2.jpg</marquee>

AND THE WINNER OF MUSCLE & FITNESS MAKE-OVER IS..........!!!

[quote:zo19ibb2]He's not a Post Ho like Um..............ahhhhhh??????

<marquee>http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/Nick_Nomad.jpg</marquee>[/quote:zo19ibb2]

Hmm... Good lookin' guy there!!

[Todd]

I have noticed you seem to have put on a few BD :-/ :-/

<marquee>http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/toddf1_2007/bigBD2.jpg</marquee>

A Little BD on the way? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[blowndodge]

I got my BD wrapped around my waist!!!

[Todd]

<marquee>ROFLMFAO!!!!!!</marquee>


why doesnt the freekin glow work anymore????

[blowndodge]

I'm GLOWING????????????

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/bdusd.jpg

[Todd]

I'm GLOWING????????????
Looked that way......beer belly??...maybe lay off the brew and drink the hard stuff for a while???

[Todd]

GEEZ NICO...THAT MADE ME DIZZY :( :( :(

[blowndodge]

Hey Nico, what with the pronounced fold in your Levi's in a poor location???

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/blowndodge/Nick_Nomad2.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/seebd.jpg

[Todd]

Hey Nico, what with the pronounced fold in your Levi's in a poor location???

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb210/blowndodge/Nick_Nomad2.jpg

Nico camel toe?

[blowndodge]

Ya think???

[blowndodge]

'Feelin Groovyyyyyyy'

<marquee>\BAHAHHA</marquee>

[blowndodge]

Yep, same as the front of your Levi's !!!!

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/enzite2.jpg

[Todd]

Nico's been shopping again http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/toddf1_2007/shop.jpg

Nico's been shopping again http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/toddf1_2007/shop.jpg


<marquee>ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!</marquee>

[blowndodge]

HAHAHAHA

[socwkbiker]

http://www1.wsvn.com/images/blue/features_wsvn/main_24.jpg


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[scion0]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gifNot much info about the SpeedoHealer http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif so does it make the odometer off too (the speed error, that is)????/ ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-/

Seems worth having! Why don't we all have one? We'll find we're not riding as far as we thought...... as fast as we thought....... and with worse gas mileage!!!

[scion0]

[quote:yfqgv2k9]Seems worth having! Why don't we all have one? We'll find we're not riding as far as we thought...... as fast as we thought....... and with worse gas mileage!!![/quote:yfqgv2k9]

From what some folks have told me, it seems worth it to get the healer.......Nico suggested ... maybe we can get a special group price on some! Worth a try.... I'll send an email off to them and see what number would qualify for the discount (I have seen them for about 96 bucks for the Kawasaki type).

[blowndodge]

ok mike. check it out for us.

I got my speedo healer for free. MY BRAIN. I just know that when I'm travling above 25MPH that my speed is off by 5MPH. So with my super brain I quickly caculate the %mph difference in one sec and poof I have my free speedo healer LOLOLOL. I know that I'm always going 3 to 5 MPH sloweer than my speedo really says. In the words of John Madden BOOOOOM there you go.!!!

LOL Of course i do the same.... it's the misleading odometer that concerns me just a little.... not much... just a little..... and have to realize MPG figures are really optimistic!

[socwkbiker]

I agree Nico. It's one thing when you think you're getting 40 mpg and find out it's really 35.

[scion0]

ok mike. check it out for us.

The original company is from HealTech Electronics Ltd.

Bekes, Szolo u. 24.

5630

Hungary

so I sent some emails out and so far one has responded with a deal of $89.99 for 5 or more. His price is normally $95.99 where I have also seen them for 99 bucks.

Let me know, if no takers, I will get one soon on my own... (or maybe buy 5 and sell them on eBay for $94 http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif)

Figure in the e-bay fee lol

Gotta weigh it out..... shipping may be a killer.... might just pay to pay full price locally.......

[scion0]

Figure in the e-bay fee lol

Gotta weigh it out..... shipping may be a killer.... might just pay to pay full price locally.......

That was my point, I did not go with the company in Hungary, but with Solo Moto Parts
URL: www.solomotoparts.com (http://www.solomotoparts.com)
They are the folks who will get it to us for 90 a pop. Still have to worry about S&H. (Not the quickest company in town -- At minimum, orders are subject to a 1-4 business day processing time :'()

[scion0]

Found one for the same price at FireDogRacing.com



Speedo Healer
SpeedoHealer Calibrator v3.0
Select Model: Kawasaki Plug-n-go
Select: Standard (button on black box)
$89.99 $89.99

I guess that one is as good as any (after I see what the S&H is)

[Todd]

I got my speedo healer for free. MY BRAIN. I just know that when I'm travling above 25MPH that my speed is off by 5MPH. So with my super brain I quickly caculate the %mph difference in one sec and poof I have my free speedo healer LOLOLOL. I know that I'm always going 3 to 5 MPH sloweer than my speedo really says. In the words of John Madden BOOOOOM there you go.!!!


Did you get a warranty with that??? http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

[blowndodge]

That warranty ain't no better than the grey matter it was written on!!!

[dogdoc]

I got a pencil to figure 5 mph less than what my speedo shows, ain't no big deal.

Doc

Doc, do you recalculate your gas mileage..... or live in fantasy world like I do? LOL

[blowndodge]

Well you do now ride that really beatup Nomad so you must be fantasizing about a new one??

[scion0]

Seems like no one is as concerned about the speed and odometer error as I am... maybe the "1st brand new bike I ever bought" symdrone? Looks like only a couple have taked the time to install one.

So I guess my real question the "old-timers" (BD, etc... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif) is do I really need to spend the money (I have it but do I NEED it.)

[socwkbiker]

Old timers like BD and Nico will have a hard time responding since it's time for their mutual sponge bath and other unmentionable services.

I've been following this and it doesn't seem to be a major issue in performance or reliability. It seems to be a normal glitch with this bike. However, if you are really uncomfortable with it and the 5 mph is a serious enough concern, then install the part and feel better. Or you can go back to your stealer, let them know and find out what they are willing to do to make you happy.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it because even though you think you're doing 80, cops only see 75, which may put you under the speed limit on some highways. It makes sure that you keep top fuel in your tank so you get the best gas mileage as well as performing regular maintenance.

That's my 2 cents.

Let me take a break form my sponge bath..... BD.. hang on a sec........... i'm cool with it the way it is... just don't care that it looks like i have more miles on the bike than i do.... i can live with thinking i get good gas mileage!!!

Ok BD... continue..... lol

[blowndodge]

That's my 2 cents.

Those two pennies must have been from your first dollar!

[scion0]

Got it, so once BD gets a chance to take a break from their sponge bath... I can get his response. haha Part of me says, the 100 bucks could go to lights, or other cool stuff but the Air Force part in me wants the mileage and speed to be the mileage and speed... LOL

I you don't have spots.... get those first! IMHO

[scion0]

I you don't have spots.... get those first! IMHO

That is what I was actually leaning towards... although the spots are closer to 300 bucks rather than the 100 bucks, but I guess I could, dare I say, save!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[blowndodge]

Seems like no one is as concerned about the speed and odometer error as I am... maybe the "1st brand new bike I ever bought" symdrone? Looks like only a couple have taked the time to install one.

So I guess my real question the "old-timers" (BD, etc... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif) is do I really need to spend the money (I have it but do I NEED it.)

ScionO: Here's the rub. your speedo is of by about 10% but your odometer is off by about half that much or 5%. Both are fast. If you correct your speedo to read accurate with a SpeedoHealer, your odometer will be actually slow by about 5%.

I have no idea why kawasaki's instrumentation is inconsistant like that. One would think that the speedo and odo would be receiving the same math formula in calculating their respectives values but obviously not or they both would be off either way by the same %.

I'm thinking of a little larger diameter tire like 160/80/16 or 180/70/16, either from what my friends have told me correct the odometer to right on the money but the speedometer is still 5-6% fast. That would work for me. As long as the odometer is not racking up false mileage I'd would be good to go.

Scion0

Check this:

http://www.gadgetjq.com/jh_1600_nomad_lightbar.htm

I put mine on the crash bars...

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/Nomad_thumb.jpg

[scion0]

[quote:2zw1q0zw]Seems like no one is as concerned about the speed and odometer error as I am... maybe the "1st brand new bike I ever bought" symdrone? Looks like only a couple have taked the time to install one.

So I guess my real question the "old-timers" (BD, etc... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif) is do I really need to spend the money (I have it but do I NEED it.)

ScionO: Here's the rub. your speedo is of by about 10% but your odometer is off by about half that much or 5%. Both are fast. If you correct your speedo to read accurate with a SpeedoHealer, your odometer will be actually slow by about 5%.

I have no idea why kawasaki's instrumentation is inconsistant like that. One would think that the speedo and odo would be receiving the same math formula in calculating their respectives values but obviously not or they both would be off either way by the same %.

I'm thinking of a little larger diameter tire like 160/80/16 or 180/70/16, either from what my friends have told me correct the odometer to right on the money but the speedometer is still 5-6% fast. That would work for me. As long as the odometer is not racking up false mileage I'd would be good to go.[/quote:2zw1q0zw]


Thanks BD, so it would be just as well to wait till the new Bridgestone tires (I've heard around 6K miles) wearout and replace with the other tires.

So now I guess I need to figure 5% of 6K ;) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[scion0]

Scion0

Check this:

http://www.gadgetjq.com/jh_1600_nomad_lightbar.htm

I put mine on the crash bars...

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/Nomad_thumb.jpg

Thanks Nico, any chance you have a close up from the front of them? (That is not asking too much is it, buddy o pal hahaha) http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[scion0]

Guess I should get back to work... computers are waiting! Thanks again all!

[blowndodge]

Nico?......crash bars?.............coincidence?...................I think not!

[Todd]

Let me take a break form my sponge bath..... BD.. hang on a sec........... i'm cool with it the way it is... just don't care that it looks like i have more miles on the bike than i do.... i can live with thinking i get good gas mileage!!!

Ok BD... continue..... lol

^^^I'm feelin' sick on my stomach. ^^^^

to the real question

This is my plan.....lived with it for about 8K....gonna go with the Marathon 880 when I change the rear tire and bring it closer to right....I know it wont be right on..but neither are most of the cars driven out there.

I would definitely go with the lights first...this would be ONLY if an extra $100 fell from the sky and I had nothing better to spend it on.

[blowndodge]

[quote:bt7ndpqc]Let me take a break form my sponge bath..... BD.. hang on a sec........... i'm cool with it the way it is... just don't care that it looks like i have more miles on the bike than i do.... i can live with thinking i get good gas mileage!!!

Ok BD... continue..... lol

^^^I'm feelin' sick on my stomach. ^^^^

to the real question

This is my plan.....lived with it for about 8K....gonna go with the Marathon 880 when I change the rear tire and bring it closer to right....I know it wont be right on..but neither are most of the cars driven out there.

I would definitely go with the lights first...this would be ONLY if an extra $100 fell from the sky and I had nothing better to spend it on. [/quote:bt7ndpqc]


Looking at your picture todd, you DO have something better to spend it on!!! LOL

Nico?......crash bars?.............coincidence?...................I think not!

I chose that term over highway bars just for you!!!

[blowndodge]

you feel down on the "highway" and "crashed" ????

[Todd]

[quote:dheu93n3]

^^^I'm feelin' sick on my stomach. ^^^^

to the real question

This is my plan.....lived with it for about 8K....gonna go with the Marathon 880 when I change the rear tire and bring it closer to right....I know it wont be right on..but neither are most of the cars driven out there.

I would definitely go with the lights first...this would be ONLY if an extra $100 fell from the sky and I had nothing better to spend it on.


Looking at your picture todd, you DO have something better to spend it on!!! LOL


[/quote:dheu93n3]

SLIMFAST!!!!!

[scion0]

[quote author=machodc board=general thread=1189021113 post=1189173372]

to the real question

This is my plan.....lived with it for about 8K....gonna go with the Marathon 880 when I change the rear tire and bring it closer to right....I know it wont be right on..but neither are most of the cars driven out there.

I would definitely go with the lights first...this would be ONLY if an extra $100 fell from the sky and I had nothing better to spend it on.

So your Bridgestones have lasted for that long.. hmm, I think I will go with the lightbar now....

[quote:cd55fpbg]Scion0

Check this:

http://www.gadgetjq.com/jh_1600_nomad_lightbar.htm

I put mine on the crash bars...

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/Nomad_thumb.jpg

Thanks Nico, any chance you have a close up from the front of them? (That is not asking too much is it, buddy o pal hahaha) http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif[/quote:cd55fpbg]

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/NomadFront.jpg

[Todd]

Yeah, my rear stone has lasted (really 7800ish on them right now) and actually still have a little tread left in the middle ..... But I use the "Groundhog Method" for tire replacement (see older posts on when to replace tires).....It REALLY needs replacing when I take the plunge!!!

I decided to look at the rear tire brand on my bike last night as I need a new one. Lo and behold, it is a ME 880 Marathon. I bought the bike from a car dealearship the day it was traded in on a truck. Part of the deal was a new rear tire. I never even bothered to look at what brand they put on it. I was just happy to have the cruiser I had been looking for at a good price and low mileage. So far, I have 8900 miles on that tire. I plan to replace it with the ME 880. I can get the tire and mounting for about $180. That's the 150/80/16. Maybe I should try the 160 instead.

[scion0]

As a rookie to these bikes, I have seen many different sizes suggested for the Nomad... not sure what fits best or what... Please let me know what you end up with size wise.

[Idaho]

Okay, I will admit that I have not read this full thread but have read enough to get an idea of the issue. The speedometer and Odometer are off and people are concerned. So the Speedo is about 5mph fast so what? Use that extra cushion to stay out of trouble. As for the odometer registering more miles than are actually on the scoot let's think about if for a moment. Let's say it is off by 10%, probably unlikely to be out that much but it gives easy numbers to work with, and let's say you put 6,000 actual miles on the bike. So the odometer registers 6,600 miles so what? Those 600 miles are not going to affect the resale value in any great amount. What will count at that time is how well you took care of the bike. So let's jump the mileage by a factor of 10. 60,000 actual miles and 66,000 showing, again I don't think that having only 60,000 showing on the odo is going to make that much difference over the 66,000. As for mileage. I like thinking that I'm getting 42 mpg (like my last tankfull) Hell, most of the time I live in the twilight zone anyway. Just ask my wife. In other words, don't sweat the small stuff. And save the 100bux for something else, like fuel so that you can put more miles on the scoot, or a new oversized ME880 so that you can reduce the error even more.
Just my 2 cents. IDaho

Okay, I will admit that I have not read this full thread but have read enough to get an idea of the issue. The speedometer and Odometer are off and people are concerned. So the Speedo is about 5mph fast so what? Use that extra cushion to stay out of trouble. As for the odometer registering more miles than are actually on the scoot let's think about if for a moment. Let's say it is off by 10%, probably unlikely to be out that much but it gives easy numbers to work with, and let's say you put 6,000 actual miles on the bike. So the odometer registers 6,600 miles so what? Those 600 miles are not going to affect the resale value in any great amount. What will count at that time is how well you took care of the bike. So let's jump the mileage by a factor of 10. 60,000 actual miles and 66,000 showing, again I don't think that having only 60,000 showing on the odo is going to make that much difference over the 66,000. As for mileage. I like thinking that I'm getting 42 mpg (like my last tankfull) Hell, most of the time I live in the twilight zone anyway. Just ask my wife. In other words, don't sweat the small stuff. And save the 100bux for something else, like fuel so that you can put more miles on the scoot, or a new oversized ME880 so that you can reduce the error even more.
Just my 2 cents. IDaho


Whenever I see that many words in one post I always respond the same way:


I Agree!!

[scion0]

[quote:ddynful3]Okay, I will admit that I have not read this full thread but have read enough to get an idea of the issue. The speedometer and Odometer are off and people are concerned. So the Speedo is about 5mph fast so what? Use that extra cushion to stay out of trouble. As for the odometer registering more miles than are actually on the scoot let's think about if for a moment. Let's say it is off by 10%, probably unlikely to be out that much but it gives easy numbers to work with, and let's say you put 6,000 actual miles on the bike. So the odometer registers 6,600 miles so what? Those 600 miles are not going to affect the resale value in any great amount. What will count at that time is how well you took care of the bike. So let's jump the mileage by a factor of 10. 60,000 actual miles and 66,000 showing, again I don't think that having only 60,000 showing on the odo is going to make that much difference over the 66,000. As for mileage. I like thinking that I'm getting 42 mpg (like my last tankfull) Hell, most of the time I live in the twilight zone anyway. Just ask my wife. In other words, don't sweat the small stuff. And save the 100bux for something else, like fuel so that you can put more miles on the scoot, or a new oversized ME880 so that you can reduce the error even more.
Just my 2 cents. IDaho


Whenever I see that many words in one post I always respond the same way:


I Agree!![/quote:ddynful3]

I aggree with your aggreement. And the more I thought about it and the more I read that most riders did not even know about the error or did know and did not care... I decided to go that route and put more light on the bike with the money.

Sometime I overanalyze and think about stuff using the "Newbie/Rookie" status as an excuse.

Thanks for the 2 cents....

I agree with your agreement of my agreement!!! ;)

Nice pic!


http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/FromSarahsCamera2007109.jpg

[socwkbiker]

I agree wholeheartedly

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/idaho-1.jpg


I'd take 2 more cracked ribs to be there right now!

[blowndodge]

Jeez...it's contagious,,,all this love dialogue.........."I'd take 2 more cracked ribs to be there right now!" huh? Does that allow you boys more "flexibility"????

I'm doing the work of the Lord, my brother.

[blowndodge]

Thankfully I must not understand your religion. Is yours the one when you die you get 72 cub scouts???

You tell me..... you're supposed to be the Lord, dammit.

[blowndodge]

feeling testie today are we? Hey, that's what your doing right now I bet! Feeling testies!!

I get this way till Vicodin kicks in.... I apologize....

[blowndodge]

group hug.....

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/bates.jpg

[socwkbiker]

I feel ya bro. Can't believe I'm not getting better mpg doing 80-90!


Uhh... you mean I'm not getting 42mpg cruising at 80mph??

<marquee>DEVASTATING!!!!</marquee>


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[Idaho]

Nico, that lake is on top of a butte on the edge of the Snake River Plain near Burley, Idaho. About 8000 feet I think. Very enjoyable ride getting there. It is NOT worth cracked ribs however.
IDaho

[blowndodge]

Nico, that lake is on top of a butte
IDaho


<marquee>Let me tell you, that sentence started off with what Nico likes to hear!</marquee>

[quote:gp23ibvw]Nico, that lake is on top of a butte
IDaho


<marquee>Let me tell you, that sentence started off with what Nico likes to hear!</marquee>[/quote:gp23ibvw]


Oh God help me............ http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u272/DrNickDC/bd00.jpg