Extra Gas - How??

[usranger74]

I am looking for a way to carry some extra gas.

Has anyone tired this?

http://www.redagascan.com/

If not, do you have any suggestions?

[cactusjack]

My buddy has one of those. It's designed to fit in the rear area of an HD saddlebag. He claims it doesn't leak and there's no gasoline fumes from it.

[usranger74]

My buddy has one of those. It's designed to fit in the rear area of an HD saddlebag. He claims it doesn't leak and there's no gasoline fumes from it.

If you drill down on their web page, they show it fitting in a Nomad as well.

[cactusjack]

Well, it's a plastic gas container, it will fit in a lot of places. However, it was designed to fill the space in the rear portion of a HD bag. It's kind of a black hole in there.

[cajun2wheels]

I use two 33 oz camp fuel bottles.Made out of aluminum and very strong and has never leaked.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

Bill, I would say it would do the trick. The way it is designed it should fit the Nomad saddlebag pretty good.

[pooker]

I am looking for a way to carry some extra gas.

Has anyone tired this?

http://www.redagascan.com/

If not, do you have any suggestions?

When we travel,........................ I have 4 regular red plastic gas containers, 5 liters each, I put two in each bag. This gives us an extra 10 liters each
They fit in the Nomad perfect!
Never smelled or leaked so far, been all across Canada with them!
Good luck

[Jared]

I carried just a normal 1 gallon red gas can when I did my IBA ride where there was a 215 miles stretch between gas stations down the middle of Nevada. Other than that, I have never used one or even carried one.

There are not too many 200 mile stretches of road without a gas station in this country. I don't really see the point?

[zoom45]

I can take two gas jugs in my hitch box. It will fit on the back of my trailer or in the Nomad hitch.
Zoom45
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/Zoom45/Hitch%20Box/P8060013.jpg

[AlabamaNomadRider]

Or we could eat lots and lots of beans. Then if you happen to run out of gas, well you know what to do then. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Top Cat]

Or we could eat lots and lots of beans. Then if you happen to run out of gas, well you know what to do then. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

The irony of it all. ;)
Gene posting about being full of gas. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[usranger74]

I carried just a normal 1 gallon red gas can when I did my IBA ride where there was a 215 miles stretch between gas stations down the middle of Nevada. Other than that, I have never used one or even carried one.

There are not too many 200 mile stretches of road without a gas station in this country. I don't really see the point?


If you go in a straight line and stay on major highways, your correct. However, I am looking at a trip that will take me into E. OR and then down into NV and back over into S. UT. I am planning several "loop" ride on backcournty paved roads that will exceed the Nomads gas tank. Also, just here in W. KS and W. NE it is very possible to go 200 miles and not see a station open. I like to stay off major highways and I like to ride in the wide open spaces of the great plains. And, believe me, getting gas can be a problem.

I currently carry two 33 oz fule bottles (and I have had to use them). This can will double my "spare fuel" http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif


This is what this can looks like in the Nomad

http://www.redagascan.com/portfolio/kawasaki-vulcan-1700-vaquero/

[AlabamaNomadRider]

TC here in the south we eat lots of beans and cornbread. Just trying to keep things light. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[wiz]

Has anyone tired this?
http://www.redagascan.com/
If not, do you have any suggestions?

That looks like a very nice solution. I feel like I'm pushing my luck at 160 miles. A pair of these in my saddlebags (having that weight low is a plus too) would be a must buy if I was riding out in the lonely areas and looking at 200+ miles between gas stations. http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss349/tlwiz/2011KawasakiVulcan1700Vaquero02.jpg

[usranger74]

Here is a ride I want to do in NV

Get gas at Alamo

Ride to Warm Springs on Hy 375 - will ride by Area 51

Then on to Ely, NV on US 6

Total Miles 230 miles and no gas stations. Even with an extra gal of gas, I will have to av 36 MPG to make it. It will be close!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif Will keep the speed around 55 and use Mexican overdrive when I can ::)


In NV, E. OR, E. parts of CA, parts of MT, ID, UT and ND, it is not hard to find an interesting route that the Nomad can not make w/o extra gas.

[nomadtom69]

The hitch idea looks best to me you get 5 gal that way

[ponch]

There's always this. Rotopax (http://www.rotopax.com/) On my last highway outing I was getting about 49 MPG. That's about 349 miles. No need for the can unless I am going to Alaska. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[usranger74]

There's always this. Rotopax (http://www.rotopax.com/) On my last highway outing I was getting about 49 MPG. That's about 349 miles. No need for the can unless I am going to Alaska. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

I looked at those but did not see how I could easily fit two gals on the Nomad. They do look like a good idea for a SUV.

[ringadingh]

Id probably use regular one gallon plastic jerry cans and tie them to the rear running boards, unless of coarse you have a passenger with you.

[ponch]

There's always this. Rotopax (http://www.rotopax.com/) On my last highway outing I was getting about 49 MPG. That's about 349 miles. No need for the can unless I am going to Alaska. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

I looked at those but did not see how I could easily fit two gals on the Nomad. They do look like a good idea for a SUV.

Guys with Adventure bikes use them. Looking at the mounting system, I could come up with an idea or two.

[macmac]

I really don't like this idea, I really really don't like Zoom's set up, I am sorry, but I just can't agree with that cooler box with 2 gallons of gasoline in it.

With a 01 1500 I crossed Nevada on Rt 50 2 up and with a trailer, and the bike was dead bones stock then getting middle 30 MPG's.

I did buy a 1 gallon gas jug in Delta Utah , but I carried it empty , and figured if I needed it i would hitch a ride somehow.

I didn't know about Rotopax.

If I were going solo somewhere, I might see fit to add a Rotopax to the pillion seat directly to the sissy bar, and then add any luggage against that.

Some of this is just scarey, and I don't like it.

[ponch]

Like I said, Adventure riders like these. these are the guys that ride big enduros and don't stick to just the highway. They take "the long way around". In that case, extra gas is a good idea. The other thing about the rotopax is that they can carry more than gas, but water and other fuels. It's also nice that they interlock and have a secure mounting system. Very well thought out.

[usranger74]

I really don't like this idea, I really really don't like Zoom's set up, I am sorry, but I just can't agree with that cooler box with 2 gallons of gasoline in it.

With a 01 1500 I crossed Nevada on Rt 50 2 up and with a trailer, and the bike was dead bones stock then getting middle 30 MPG's.

I did buy a 1 gallon gas jug in Delta Utah , but I carried it empty , and figured if I needed it i would hitch a ride somehow.

I didn't know about Rotopax.

If I were going solo somewhere, I might see fit to add a Rotopax to the pillion seat directly to the sissy bar, and then add any luggage against that.

Some of this is just scarey, and I don't like it.


Mac - are you saying this is a bad idea?

http://www.redagascan.com/

[upside22]

I don't know if Mac thinks carrying fuel in a plastic container is a bad idea but *I* do. Fuel should either be in a hard container (like a spun aluminum bottle made to carry camp stove fuel in a backpack) or in a flexible bladder that can change shape when impacted.

Prime examples are the old Pinto's and Mustangs where the rear fuel tank was placed in the rear crush zone when a rear impact occurred. The fuel tanks in these cars were not hardened containers and were not flexible bladders. This resulted in a number of burn victims being seen from rear end collisions when the tank burst and spread fuel everywhere.

The gas tanks on most motorcycles are made of hardened steel that resist rupture. Not so with plastic or tin gas cans in a saddlebag.

I have a friend that carries a 1 gal tin gas can in his Suzuki saddlebag. We've discussed it and he is willing to accept the risk.

I am not.

[ponch]

I don't know if Mac thinks carrying fuel in a plastic container is a bad idea but *I* do. Fuel should either be in a hard container (like a spun aluminum bottle made to carry camp stove fuel in a backpack) or in a flexible bladder that can change shape when impacted.

Prime examples are the old Pinto's and Mustangs where the rear fuel tank was placed in the rear crush zone when a rear impact occurred. The fuel tanks in these cars were not hardened containers and were not flexible bladders. This resulted in a number of burn victims being seen from rear end collisions when the tank burst and spread fuel everywhere.

The gas tanks on most motorcycles are made of hardened steel that resist rupture. Not so with plastic or tin gas cans in a saddlebag.

I have a friend that carries a 1 gal tin gas can in his Suzuki saddlebag. We've discussed it and he is willing to accept the risk.

I am not.

Wow. My gas tank is plastic and I've never heard of explosions or fires with it. Plastic is also widely used in car and truck gas tanks as well.

[Jared]

I have ridden highway 50 in Nevada/Utah (the road Mac is referring to) a number of times and that stretch of road is nick-named the Loneliest Highway in America. With that being said, I still never needed a gas can. I can totally see how it would be necessary for a multisport bike that may not see pavement for days at a time, but on the Nomad you'd have to make a conscious effort to not find a gas station. Maybe that's what you're doing..?

If you really like to stay off major highways and to ride in the wide open spaces of the great plains. great! But you better not ride out too far into the wide open spaces because a gallon is only going to get you another 35 miles.

Again, I don't really care one way or another. Just stating my thoughts. Have fun, ride the open spaces. Don't run out of gas. :) :) :)

[cactusjack]

While I understand why someone would want to carry extra gas, it's not something I would do myself. I've got a 200-mile + range and there aren't many places in the USA where there's 200 miles between gas stations. Not even out here in the wide open west.

[upside22]

I used to race enduros with a plastic tank on my Penton dirt bike. It was a heavy duty plastic that was flexible under pressure much like a bladder. I know from experience having dumped it in numerous times in all kinds of environments including sharp rocks. It was almost impossible to damage it. I suspect your plastic gas tank is of the same type of construction. If it wasn't, the manufacturer would be risking HUGE liability claims from injured riders.

Plastic gas cans are usually not that indestructible. They are made of thin plastic and, especially when full, are not flexible enough to prevent bursting or penetration during accidents.

If you want to carry such containers in your saddlebags that is totally up to you. If you want to recommend the practice to your friends that is totally up to you. I simply will not carry such containers nor will I recommend to anyone that it is a safe thing to do.

[lonewolf]

Buddy had one of those aluminum gas bottles in the side bag of his ultra a couple years back. we were in the campground at sturgis when we heard a large POP ! upon investigation we found that bottle had burst in in his bag. ruined a frogg togg rain suit , and made a hell of a stinky mess in his bag. i wont use one after that ! had visions of gas leaking down on hot pipes !!!!

[ponch]

I would think the rotopax are okey dokey considering their intended use, which is attached to moving vehicles.

[jmax5105]

So we should be able to get around 200 miles out of a tank then? I start to pucker a little when that little yellow light comes on around 160-170. Anyone know approximately how much fuel you have left in the tank when that light comes on? Maybe down to 1 gallon? I know that the fuel helps cool the fuel pump and it's not a good idea to run low, just wondering if anyone knows at what point that light starts coming on? I've seen the little aluminum 1-liter bottles also and wondered if that might be a good idea or not as well.

[usranger74]

I have ridden highway 50 in Nevada/Utah (the road Mac is referring to) a number of times and that stretch of road is nick-named the Loneliest Highway in America. With that being said, I still never needed a gas can. I can totally see how it would be necessary for a multisport bike that may not see pavement for days at a time, but on the Nomad you'd have to make a conscious effort to not find a gas station. Maybe that's what you're doing..?

If you really like to stay off major highways and to ride in the wide open spaces of the great plains. great! But you better not ride out too far into the wide open spaces because a gallon is only going to get you another 35 miles.

Again, I don't really care one way or another. Just stating my thoughts. Have fun, ride the open spaces. Don't run out of gas. :) :) :)

My experience tell me I will need the extra gas. From 1984-1989 and again from 1999 to 2002 I lived in the desert of CA. In that time I put about 30,000 miles on my bike riding the very rural/desert parts of CA, NV, OR, WA and ID all on paved roads. In in the areas above, in the areas I like to ride, it is easy to run out of gas on a 5 gal tank. Been there done that.

Speaking of US 50 which I have been on a dozen time (one of my very favorite rides) and US 6, If you do some loop rides off either Hwy, it is very easy to go 170 - 220 miles w/o seeing a gas station. Been there done that.

Even when you think you don't need the extras gas, in many of those areas all it takes is a station being closed in a one station town and you are sunk because you can't make the next town. Been there done that. It is the same issue if you ride at night, which I don't care to do, stations in small towns are often closed. Been there done that.

In the trip I am planning, I have 3 areas/routes I would like to do that a 5.3 gal Nomad can make. I may add one or two more.

So, that is why I am seeking advise on how to carry extra gas (two gals). I will need it http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

[ponch]

Exactly.

[Bull Durham]

Ranger,

Get the gas can(s). If nothing else, for piece of mind. Just don't fill them all the way to the top, you have to take into consideration the gas expanding as it gets hotter and the cans not having a venting system. So if there is no room to expand, then the cans will swell up.

If I was riding the routes you are and worried about gas, do it. Too many people on here worry about everything. Like I've said before, if you are so worried about riding a motorcycle, get rid of it and buy yourself a tank.

[cactusjack]

So we should be able to get around 200 miles out of a tank then? I start to pucker a little when that little yellow light comes on around 160-170. Anyone know approximately how much fuel you have left in the tank when that light comes on? Maybe down to 1 gallon? I know that the fuel helps cool the fuel pump and it's not a good idea to run low, just wondering if anyone knows at what point that light starts coming on? I've seen the little aluminum 1-liter bottles also and wondered if that might be a good idea or not as well.

If you are referring to my comment about my bike's 200-mile + range, you may want to know I am talking about a Harley, with a 6 gallon tank and 40 MPG.

[ponch]

So we should be able to get around 200 miles out of a tank then? I start to pucker a little when that little yellow light comes on around 160-170. Anyone know approximately how much fuel you have left in the tank when that light comes on? Maybe down to 1 gallon? I know that the fuel helps cool the fuel pump and it's not a good idea to run low, just wondering if anyone knows at what point that light starts coming on? I've seen the little aluminum 1-liter bottles also and wondered if that might be a good idea or not as well.

If you are referring to my comment about my bike's 200-mile + range, you may want to know I am talking about a Harley, with a 6 gallon tank and 40 MPG.

That's 240 until dry. Not bad. unfortunately Kawasaki didn't increase the tank size on the newer models.

[cactusjack]

If you are referring to my comment about my bike's 200-mile + range, you may want to know I am talking about a Harley, with a 6 gallon tank and 40 MPG.

That's 240 until dry. Not bad. unfortunately Kawasaki didn't increase the tank size on the newer models.

To date, I think the farthest I've gotten was about 210 until the fuel light started glowing. My bike isn't really broken in yet, with only 2500 miles on it. I expect it to improve as the engine loosens up.

[ponch]

That's 240 until dry. Not bad. unfortunately Kawasaki didn't increase the tank size on the newer models.

To date, I think the farthest I've gotten was about 210 until the fuel light started glowing. My bike isn't really broken in yet, with only 2500 miles on it. I expect it to improve as the engine loosens up.

It will. I was getting 41-43 and I hit 46-49 on the highway recently. It's a nice improvement. I never got near that with the Nomad.

[usranger74]

Last year riding mostly in KS, NE and OK, I was able to get 41-43 MPH. Last fall I put a Cobra fuel processor on and my mileage dropped to 38. ???

[ponch]

Last year riding mostly in KS, NE and OK, I was able to get 41-43 MPH. Last fall I put a Cobra fuel processor on and my mileage dropped to 38. ???

I never got above 38 with Iowa corn fuel and with straight gas, 40-43. The new bike does better than that on corn fuel, so I will be real hopeful once I get out of this state on the road to see what it does. I know on my road trip with a suburban, my average fuel economy for the life of the car went up 2 MPG on that trip and I've had it 2 years/40K miles. The gas here stinks. I'd bet it gets more than the 10%.

[usranger74]

NE still requires stations to label corn gas and thus I know I am not buying it. However, as I go west into KS and NE, it is very hard to find premium gas and that sucks. http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif

[zoom45]

If you ride a 1500 carbed Nomad you better get gas near 100 miles or you may not make it to the next station especially if you don't know where it is. I will carry extra gas in the back box on a very long trip but just in case it did leak, it's behind the exhaust and won't get on the bike. If you have an accident with it in there, the gas is probably going to be the least of your problems. It a risk some will take and some won't. Up to the individual.
Zoom45

[macmac]

Ranger,

Get the gas can(s). If nothing else, for piece of mind. Just don't fill them all the way to the top, you have to take into consideration the gas expanding as it gets hotter and the cans not having a venting system. So if there is no room to expand, then the cans will swell up.

If I was riding the routes you are and worried about gas, do it. Too many people on here worry about everything. Like I've said before, if you are so worried about riding a motorcycle, get rid of it and buy yourself a tank.

I could live with this advice. But I like that Rotex thing better.

I use plastic gas containers, but not hangin off the back end of a bike.

Man you take a hit there, and yer gonna be laying on the ground and unable to get away and a firey death isn't high on my list of cool things to do. I always worry about getting rear ended.

Crossing the USA I carried Coleman fuel 1 gallon at a time in a steel open ammo box mounted on my trailer behind the cooler and before the sears car topper box.

I use MSR alloy bottles all the time and had 3 on that trip too. I forget what they hold. These were stored inside joint compound buckets in the trailer with soft articals around them. These are the fuel cells for my MSR stove.

I can see having a container and maybe filling it at the last chance gas, and as soon as it is used air dried out a good long while.

Liquid gas is as safe as it gets. You can drop a ciggy butt in a bucket full and the ciggy butt will just go out, but scatter that (atomize) and there will be a big boom and one hell of a fire ball, and that can happen easy getting rear ended.

I been down to the point I copuildn't move once before. I got burned on the pavement, and couldn't move one damnned inch to a cooler place.

Had there been fire as well, I wouldn't be setting around drinkin a cold brewski and typoin' as I do today.

I like the rotex container best and that could fit in a saddle bag before it was used. After it was used if it was mine I would lash it to one side of the sissy bar or the other, with the cap off, or loose.

[macmac]

My 01 had the lellow light come on at 137 miles like clock work stock. 148 modded up in cal.

I only rode that bike once solo, after that it was 2 up and pulling a trailer over 15,000 miles in one ride.

My 06 1600 has the light come on at 178 most of the time, which is 2 up.

[danimal2]

Ranger,

Get the gas can(s). If nothing else, for piece of mind. Just don't fill them all the way to the top, you have to take into consideration the gas expanding as it gets hotter and the cans not having a venting system. So if there is no room to expand, then the cans will swell up.

If I was riding the routes you are and worried about gas, do it. Too many people on here worry about everything. Like I've said before, if you are so worried about riding a motorcycle, get rid of it and buy yourself a tank.

If I may............coming from our hottest state and working with plastic 5 gallon fuel jugs for jetskis and boat all summer long. As was said, don't fill the can all the way up. In addition, before sealing the cap down tight give the can a little squeeze on the sides. It'll allow the plastic to expand some without bursting/splitting a seam or shooting the cap off.

Even with an air space in the can, it'll still expand to the point of bursting if it gets really hot. The air and fuel will both expand and it can get ugly. Squeezing the sides before sealing it up gives you some room for the expansion.

Changes in elevation will make a big difference too.

[macmac]

Ranger,

Get the gas can(s). If nothing else, for piece of mind. Just don't fill them all the way to the top, you have to take into consideration the gas expanding as it gets hotter and the cans not having a venting system. So if there is no room to expand, then the cans will swell up.

If I was riding the routes you are and worried about gas, do it. Too many people on here worry about everything. Like I've said before, if you are so worried about riding a motorcycle, get rid of it and buy yourself a tank.

If I may............coming from our hottest state and working with plastic 5 gallon fuel jugs for jetskis and boat all summer long. As was said, don't fill the can all the way up. In addition, before sealing the cap down tight give the can a little squeeze on the sides. It'll allow the plastic to expand some without bursting/splitting a seam or shooting the cap off.

Even with an air space in the can, it'll still expand to the point of bursting if it gets really hot. The air and fuel will both expand and it can get ugly. Squeezing the sides before sealing it up gives you some room for the expansion.

Changes in elevation will make a big difference too.

I totally agree with you on that. I see the same effect right in NH in winter with K- 1 in my oil lamps. These lamps have roun d wicks and mantels. They each hold 1 qt of K-1 and if I fill them with 55 degree K-1 to the filler neck and light them, pretty soon they are leaking out the cap and aroun d the lamp burners, running into catch trays I set under the lamps.
I don't over fill these as habit, but sometimes I just Screw up.

I use these lamps every day from Fall thru Spring to heat our bed room.

I use other plastic cans like you, and see the same thing in summer heat. But these are for the 2 tillers I have, the 2 chainsaws I have, and other assorted machines including a Bob Cat Skid steer.

My wife is sometimes the one to go buy the gas and I made sure she knew where the safe level mark on the containers were, and to remove all the containers from a truck to the ground before she fills any.

[macmac]

Oh YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if I see any of you guys seated and filling up I will friggin shoot you! It will be a better death.

There is no better way to set a bike on fire with you on it, than sitting there filling up the tank!

Get off the bike, and have it on the side stand. I fill it from the high side close to the pumps, but I get OFF the blasted bike to see what I am doing.

I see what I can only assume is newbies sitting on their bikes and filling it. Most of them don't even have the side stand out. If something happens they are trapped and when the bikes goes down not on any stand more gas will pour out.

That will make one hell of a bad day.

[coacha]

You could always mount an auxiliary tank on your bike. Isn't that difficult and you can make it quick disconnect.

There are a couple of us on here that have them on our bikes. Makes my '99 have a range of about 250 at highway speeds and about 280 on back roads (2 up). I carry 8.2 gallons.

[Bull Durham]

Coach,

Ranger has a 2007 which is going to make it a Fuel Injection, versus carbs and gravity fed on yours. I love the extra tank you and Audio have, but has anyone put a extra tank on a FI bike on the forum?

[coacha]

There are FI bikes that have them. Mine is plumbed into the line in front of the fuel pump. I guess you can say "gravity fed" but it really isn't. I have seen many IBA bikes that are FI bikes with them on. MikeInFLA has a aux tank for his C14 Connie. Works like a charm. Gives him something like 400 mile range.

[wompus]

I don't like the idea of carrying fuel in a plastic container.
I prefer a metal can like camper fuel comes in, or a 1 gallon lacquer type container.
They have a small mouth and the top will tighten better then any plastic container will.
Plastic can expand too much ...
.

[Bull Durham]

There are FI bikes that have them. Mine is plumbed into the line in front of the fuel pump. I guess you can say "gravity fed" but it really isn't. I have seen many IBA bikes that are FI bikes with them on. MikeInFLA has a aux tank for his C14 Connie. Works like a charm. Gives him something like 400 mile range.



Coach,

Do you know of any sites that instruct / show the FI and a aux tank setup? I'd love to see how someone set theirs up. If it's a FI bike, do you still have to have the aux tank sitting up high?

Just wondering......

[upside22]

The rotopax appear to be of the same kind of construction my old gas tank had. From a strength viewpoint they might be ok. My concern would be whether they are vented or not. As LoneWolf said, non-vented containers can fail disastrously, even the spun aluminum ones. I know the old 5gal Jerry cans we used to carry off-road had some venting, I can remember seeing the pin holes. You had to be careful not to tighten the caps so much that the gaskets would block the vents. You wanted the lids just tight enough that the cork gaskets would seal the liquid in.

If I were to carry anything then something like this would be more like it. It appears to be designed for safety -- http://www.tourtank.com/TourTubes.html

[ponch]

The rotopax appear to be of the same kind of construction my old gas tank had. From a strength viewpoint they might be ok. My concern would be whether they are vented or not. As LoneWolf said, non-vented containers can fail disastrously, even the spun aluminum ones. I know the old 5gal Jerry cans we used to carry off-road had some venting, I can remember seeing the pin holes. You had to be careful not to tighten the caps so much that the gaskets would block the vents. You wanted the lids just tight enough that the cork gaskets would seal the liquid in.

If I were to carry anything then something like this would be more like it. It appears to be designed for safety -- http://www.tourtank.com/TourTubes.html



You can email them and ask I suppose, but judging from their usage, I would think they are made to stand up to off road abuse and extreme environs. Certainly more than the other. May be if they chrome plated it...

[coacha]

http://www.motorcycleforums.net/forum/paddock/42878-anyone-here-have-tour-tank.html

This explains how one guy has set his up.

I know a couple people with GW's that have a seperate fuel pump because they are running "tail draggers"...mounted into the receiver hitch area. Don' t know much about how they do it but I do know it works.

[ponch]

This guy fabbed his own for the IBA Rally: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634878

[ringadingh]

You could always cut the tank, and have it widened a couple inches on an FI bike, to hold more capacity. There was a place that used to do that for Nomads at one time.

[ponch]

You could always cut the tank, and have it widened a couple inches on an FI bike, to hold more capacity. There was a place that used to do that for Nomads at one time.

http://www.freewebs.com/cycleart/

[Top Cat]

Mac said;Oh YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if I see any of you guys seated and filling up I will friggin shoot you! It will be a better death.

I sit on my bike with the side stand down and fill the tank. Always have.
Some of you guys worry way to much about stuff. ;)

[ponch]

Mac said;Oh YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if I see any of you guys seated and filling up I will friggin shoot you! It will be a better death.

I sit on my bike with the side stand down and fill the tank. Always have.
Some of you guys worry way to much about stuff. ;)

On the Nomad, I did too, but on my current ride, I have to get off to put it on the centerstand. The fill is in the middle and it's easier that way and the way the inlet is configured, if I am not careful in putting gas in, it will puke back out when it gets near the restrictor. I fixed that by taking it out and drilling a hole in it to vent. It's a little better.

[Bull Durham]

http://www.motorcycleforums.net/forum/paddock/42878-anyone-here-have-tour-tank.html

This explains how one guy has set his up.

I know a couple people with GW's that have a seperate fuel pump because they are running "tail draggers"...mounted into the receiver hitch area. Don' t know much about how they do it but I do know it works.


Thanks Coach. The tail dragging is what I was picturing in my head last night. If I'm not pulling the trailer, would be a nice thing to just slap onto the hitch and not worry about distance to the next station.

[ponch]

You could build a custom fuel tank that would fit in one of the bags. May be it's 2-3 gallons or so. no one would ever see it... Of course if you went with a different exhaust, you could fit one of these where the catalytic converter goes: Gman (http://www.gmanindustries.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=638&idcategory=43)

I am sure being for a 1500, it is doable.

[coacha]

I will check with a couple of the guys I know and see if they have pictures of their set up or a link to a web page for the tail dragger. I do know a guy that has built them for himself and others. He'll probably have something he can send me.

[macmac]

Bad habit TC..... What can I say. At least the bike is on a side stand and won't fall down adding fuel to a fire. If you see me catch on fire shoot me ok? I don't like the idea of burning, because I have been before, but working not on a bike.

I was in a explosion, and covered with burning fiberglass resin. The force threw me around 15 feet to be impailed on the tool board. I just hung around watching from that point on http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

[coacha]

My friend runs his tail dragger with a low cost fuel pump hidden and then tapped the line into his fuel sending plate to access the main tank. He pumps from the tail dragger to his main tank.

The IBA guys run all sorts of set ups. Amazing what they do and what their imagination comes up with.

[Bull Durham]

My friend runs his tail dragger with a low cost fuel pump hidden and then tapped the line into his fuel sending plate to access the main tank. He pumps from the tail dragger to his main tank.

The IBA guys run all sorts of set ups. Amazing what they do and what their imagination comes up with.


Hmm, not up on this stuff, googling around. I take it the fuel sending plate unit is the part that goes in the aux tank, basically like the inside of your toilet with the float. Float drops, which allows the aux fuel pump to pump fuel to the primary gas tank. Something must signal the fuel sender that the primary tank is getting low, which triggers the aux fuel pump to start, otherwise it would always be trying to send fuel to primary and if the primary wasn't low would just be kicking fuel out of the primary overflow. Haven't figured it out yet. Unless he's rigging the overflow to recycle back to aux tank, like a closed loop system......?

Damn, it sucks to think that someone that is willing to sit and ride their bikes non-stop for 3 billion miles is smarter than me! http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[macmac]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

[macmac]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

[macmac]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

[macmac]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

[danimal2]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

I'd have to agree with mac here. No need to get overly complicated. If the aux tank holds 2 gallons, wait until you'd normally stop for gas, hit a switch or button emptying the contents of the aux tank to the main. No muss, no fuss.

The old Holley red fuel pump would work great and make short work of it.

[danimal2]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

I'd have to agree with mac here. No need to get overly complicated. If the aux tank holds 2 gallons, wait until you'd normally stop for gas, hit a switch or button emptying the contents of the aux tank to the main. No muss, no fuss.

The old Holley red fuel pump would work great and make short work of it.

[danimal2]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

I'd have to agree with mac here. No need to get overly complicated. If the aux tank holds 2 gallons, wait until you'd normally stop for gas, hit a switch or button emptying the contents of the aux tank to the main. No muss, no fuss.

The old Holley red fuel pump would work great and make short work of it.

[danimal2]

I am not sure I understand the term taildragger in this useage?

.........................
Hooking up a aux tank on a nomad the hard part is where to place the aux tank. I haven't ever read a thread on the doing of that, but I know there have been threads on the topic.

With out knowing a better way, if it were me and I have no good idea where to mount any aux tank, I would run a switched pump at around 3 to 5 psi from the aux tank, right smack to the over flow on the oem tank.

On a 1600 at somewhere around 125 to 150 miles I'ld hit the switch to on, and watch the bar scale fill up. That would be something you would not want to forget to turn off I'ld bet.

I'd have to agree with mac here. No need to get overly complicated. If the aux tank holds 2 gallons, wait until you'd normally stop for gas, hit a switch or button emptying the contents of the aux tank to the main. No muss, no fuss.

The old Holley red fuel pump would work great and make short work of it.

[coacha]

Mac, if the IBA guys don't use gravity to feed their tank then they do exactly as you say, run an inexpensive fuel pump to pump into the main fuel tank. The tail dragger is simply a tank mounted on the hitch that has its contents pumped into the main tank through a connection at the fuel sending plate.

Audio has one in his trunk and I copied his set up. The tank is T'd into the fuel line just before the fuel pump. Switch it on, run it to empty or close to it, flip your main on, turn the aux off and continue running.

[coacha]

Mac, if the IBA guys don't use gravity to feed their tank then they do exactly as you say, run an inexpensive fuel pump to pump into the main fuel tank. The tail dragger is simply a tank mounted on the hitch that has its contents pumped into the main tank through a connection at the fuel sending plate.

Audio has one in his trunk and I copied his set up. The tank is T'd into the fuel line just before the fuel pump. Switch it on, run it to empty or close to it, flip your main on, turn the aux off and continue running.

[coacha]

Mac, if the IBA guys don't use gravity to feed their tank then they do exactly as you say, run an inexpensive fuel pump to pump into the main fuel tank. The tail dragger is simply a tank mounted on the hitch that has its contents pumped into the main tank through a connection at the fuel sending plate.

Audio has one in his trunk and I copied his set up. The tank is T'd into the fuel line just before the fuel pump. Switch it on, run it to empty or close to it, flip your main on, turn the aux off and continue running.

[coacha]

Mac, if the IBA guys don't use gravity to feed their tank then they do exactly as you say, run an inexpensive fuel pump to pump into the main fuel tank. The tail dragger is simply a tank mounted on the hitch that has its contents pumped into the main tank through a connection at the fuel sending plate.

Audio has one in his trunk and I copied his set up. The tank is T'd into the fuel line just before the fuel pump. Switch it on, run it to empty or close to it, flip your main on, turn the aux off and continue running.

[Bull Durham]

That's good, Mac and Dan2. Maybe I was over thinking it, unfortunately that's how my mind works. I was trying to think of doing it "in tandem" so to speak, both tanks as one.

Good thoughts on simplifying the process, would make it a lot easier. If I waited until my primary tank low level light came on, then flicked the fuel pump switch and just emptied the two or three gallon aux tank into the primary, wouldn't have to worry about any type of over fill.

And since I would flick th switch to pump the fuel up to the primary, would just have a regular vented cap on the aux tank.

Mac, what size tube would you recommend between the aux and primary tank?

Thanks guys.

[Bull Durham]

That's good, Mac and Dan2. Maybe I was over thinking it, unfortunately that's how my mind works. I was trying to think of doing it "in tandem" so to speak, both tanks as one.

Good thoughts on simplifying the process, would make it a lot easier. If I waited until my primary tank low level light came on, then flicked the fuel pump switch and just emptied the two or three gallon aux tank into the primary, wouldn't have to worry about any type of over fill.

And since I would flick th switch to pump the fuel up to the primary, would just have a regular vented cap on the aux tank.

Mac, what size tube would you recommend between the aux and primary tank?

Thanks guys.

[Bull Durham]

That's good, Mac and Dan2. Maybe I was over thinking it, unfortunately that's how my mind works. I was trying to think of doing it "in tandem" so to speak, both tanks as one.

Good thoughts on simplifying the process, would make it a lot easier. If I waited until my primary tank low level light came on, then flicked the fuel pump switch and just emptied the two or three gallon aux tank into the primary, wouldn't have to worry about any type of over fill.

And since I would flick th switch to pump the fuel up to the primary, would just have a regular vented cap on the aux tank.

Mac, what size tube would you recommend between the aux and primary tank?

Thanks guys.

[Bull Durham]

That's good, Mac and Dan2. Maybe I was over thinking it, unfortunately that's how my mind works. I was trying to think of doing it "in tandem" so to speak, both tanks as one.

Good thoughts on simplifying the process, would make it a lot easier. If I waited until my primary tank low level light came on, then flicked the fuel pump switch and just emptied the two or three gallon aux tank into the primary, wouldn't have to worry about any type of over fill.

And since I would flick th switch to pump the fuel up to the primary, would just have a regular vented cap on the aux tank.

Mac, what size tube would you recommend between the aux and primary tank?

Thanks guys.

[macmac]

That same as is on the over flow fitting now. 6mm ID I believe.

What I don't like is a trailer hitch mounted tank. If you get rear ended by some cager yer toast.

A tank inside a saddle bag is a whole other problem, and I don't like that idea a bit.

I don't know where other guys add tanks, but I can't find any place on a Nomad to put on I would like, and think was safe for street use.

I just can't make anyone do as I say http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

The best place I can see for a tank is on the pillion seat lashed to the sissy bar and have it buried under luggage also on the seat. At least it can't take a direct hit there.

[macmac]

That same as is on the over flow fitting now. 6mm ID I believe.

What I don't like is a trailer hitch mounted tank. If you get rear ended by some cager yer toast.

A tank inside a saddle bag is a whole other problem, and I don't like that idea a bit.

I don't know where other guys add tanks, but I can't find any place on a Nomad to put on I would like, and think was safe for street use.

I just can't make anyone do as I say http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

The best place I can see for a tank is on the pillion seat lashed to the sissy bar and have it buried under luggage also on the seat. At least it can't take a direct hit there.

[macmac]

That same as is on the over flow fitting now. 6mm ID I believe.

What I don't like is a trailer hitch mounted tank. If you get rear ended by some cager yer toast.

A tank inside a saddle bag is a whole other problem, and I don't like that idea a bit.

I don't know where other guys add tanks, but I can't find any place on a Nomad to put on I would like, and think was safe for street use.

I just can't make anyone do as I say http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

The best place I can see for a tank is on the pillion seat lashed to the sissy bar and have it buried under luggage also on the seat. At least it can't take a direct hit there.

[macmac]

That same as is on the over flow fitting now. 6mm ID I believe.

What I don't like is a trailer hitch mounted tank. If you get rear ended by some cager yer toast.

A tank inside a saddle bag is a whole other problem, and I don't like that idea a bit.

I don't know where other guys add tanks, but I can't find any place on a Nomad to put on I would like, and think was safe for street use.

I just can't make anyone do as I say http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

The best place I can see for a tank is on the pillion seat lashed to the sissy bar and have it buried under luggage also on the seat. At least it can't take a direct hit there.

[Bull Durham]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

[Bull Durham]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

[Bull Durham]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

[Bull Durham]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

[macmac]

Nh is lid free and I sometimes ride lid free too. On the other hand I got hit hard, and was unable to move 1 inch no matter what. Had I also been on fire.................. well it wouldn't have been a pretty picture.

That was back in 79' nothing recent. I was smashed up good though.

[macmac]

Nh is lid free and I sometimes ride lid free too. On the other hand I got hit hard, and was unable to move 1 inch no matter what. Had I also been on fire.................. well it wouldn't have been a pretty picture.

That was back in 79' nothing recent. I was smashed up good though.

[macmac]

Nh is lid free and I sometimes ride lid free too. On the other hand I got hit hard, and was unable to move 1 inch no matter what. Had I also been on fire.................. well it wouldn't have been a pretty picture.

That was back in 79' nothing recent. I was smashed up good though.

[macmac]

Nh is lid free and I sometimes ride lid free too. On the other hand I got hit hard, and was unable to move 1 inch no matter what. Had I also been on fire.................. well it wouldn't have been a pretty picture.

That was back in 79' nothing recent. I was smashed up good though.

[Top Cat]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

Yeah, the little old lady who can't see past the front of her 1985 Cady, the teenager who is texting, the guy talkin' on the phone to his girl friend, the woman on her way to work putting on her makeup, the man or woman who just downed there 9th drink, the person high on drugs, the person making a left turn in front of you, the person who just dropped their cig on the floor and are trying to pick it up with out stopping, the person who just spilled their coffee on their lap, the mom turning around to discipline her kids in the back seat, that's whose hands I want my life in ::)

[Top Cat]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

Yeah, the little old lady who can't see past the front of her 1985 Cady, the teenager who is texting, the guy talkin' on the phone to his girl friend, the woman on her way to work putting on her makeup, the man or woman who just downed there 9th drink, the person high on drugs, the person making a left turn in front of you, the person who just dropped their cig on the floor and are trying to pick it up with out stopping, the person who just spilled their coffee on their lap, the mom turning around to discipline her kids in the back seat, that's whose hands I want my life in ::)

[Top Cat]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

Yeah, the little old lady who can't see past the front of her 1985 Cady, the teenager who is texting, the guy talkin' on the phone to his girl friend, the woman on her way to work putting on her makeup, the man or woman who just downed there 9th drink, the person high on drugs, the person making a left turn in front of you, the person who just dropped their cig on the floor and are trying to pick it up with out stopping, the person who just spilled their coffee on their lap, the mom turning around to discipline her kids in the back seat, that's whose hands I want my life in ::)

[Top Cat]

I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

Yeah, the little old lady who can't see past the front of her 1985 Cady, the teenager who is texting, the guy talkin' on the phone to his girl friend, the woman on her way to work putting on her makeup, the man or woman who just downed there 9th drink, the person high on drugs, the person making a left turn in front of you, the person who just dropped their cig on the floor and are trying to pick it up with out stopping, the person who just spilled their coffee on their lap, the mom turning around to discipline her kids in the back seat, that's whose hands I want my life in ::)

[ponch]

You had to see this old lady that scared the crap out of me the other day. She was driving a Buick and wearing those huge black sunglasses that are blocked on the side, and doing may be 40 in a 55 if that. I really don't think she could see well. As the guy in front of me passed her she almost went into the wrong lane by reaction to his passing as she didn't see him until he was by her. I downshifted, hit transwarp speed and hoped for the best.

[ponch]

You had to see this old lady that scared the crap out of me the other day. She was driving a Buick and wearing those huge black sunglasses that are blocked on the side, and doing may be 40 in a 55 if that. I really don't think she could see well. As the guy in front of me passed her she almost went into the wrong lane by reaction to his passing as she didn't see him until he was by her. I downshifted, hit transwarp speed and hoped for the best.

[ponch]

You had to see this old lady that scared the crap out of me the other day. She was driving a Buick and wearing those huge black sunglasses that are blocked on the side, and doing may be 40 in a 55 if that. I really don't think she could see well. As the guy in front of me passed her she almost went into the wrong lane by reaction to his passing as she didn't see him until he was by her. I downshifted, hit transwarp speed and hoped for the best.

[ponch]

You had to see this old lady that scared the crap out of me the other day. She was driving a Buick and wearing those huge black sunglasses that are blocked on the side, and doing may be 40 in a 55 if that. I really don't think she could see well. As the guy in front of me passed her she almost went into the wrong lane by reaction to his passing as she didn't see him until he was by her. I downshifted, hit transwarp speed and hoped for the best.

[macmac]

Oh yeah we got some blue hairs are here, that wouldn't know you were there even if you punched then in the nose. Friggin dumber than a Moose. Then we got the tourists, who can't wait for a light to go green. It's a bad mix.

After the jeep/moose incident i won't follow closer than 111 feet at 45 MPH, more above that speed. Nomads 2 up are not real good stopping bikes.

The proper test for a tailer hitch mounted gas tank is in St Charles Mo , on the road that has a set of traffic lights spaced every 1/2 mile on the Golden Row (shoppin' malls).

Those SOB's go 70 MPH between lights.

[coacha]

We call 'em "Bun and Hands Drivers" or "CD's (casket dodgers)" around here.

[ringadingh]

Ive always filled mine right to the brim, until it won't hold anymore, unless Im going home to park it of course.
I used to fill up 3-4 times a week regularly, and 3-4 times a day when running any long distance days. I don't want to hang out at a gas station any more than I have too.

[Bull Durham]

[quote="Bull Durham":hhbl4j79]I don't worry to much about being rear ended, t-boned, front ended, etc. I also don't wear my helmet most of the time. If it is going to happen, it's going to happen. I stay as observant as I can, after that, I'm in someone else's hands.

Yeah, the little old lady who can't see past the front of her 1985 Cady, the teenager who is texting, the guy talkin' on the phone to his girl friend, the woman on her way to work putting on her makeup, the man or woman who just downed there 9th drink, the person high on drugs, the person making a left turn in front of you, the person who just dropped their cig on the floor and are trying to pick it up with out stopping, the person who just spilled their coffee on their lap, the mom turning around to discipline her kids in the back seat, that's whose hands I want my life in ::)[/quote:hhbl4j79]


TC,

Every time I get on my bike and ride, my life is in there hands anyway, so what's the difference?

[ponch]

I suppose it's about mitigating risk. No one is saying you have to do it, but on the other hand, it can help a lot with simple spills. Just ask Gary Busey. ;)

[Top Cat]

Bull, I just think you have a better chance of surviving one of those idiots if you are wearing an approved helmet.
I know, I know, freedom to choose, your rights, government intervention in our lives, etc.
If you choose not to use all the protection available thats your right.
I will continue to wear my fullface helmet.

[cajun2wheels]

I hate helmet and seat belt laws but you will never catch me not using either one.

[dakota7557]

Oh YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if I see any of you guys seated and filling up I will friggin shoot you! It will be a better death.

There is no better way to set a bike on fire with you on it, than sitting there filling up the tank!

Get off the bike, and have it on the side stand. I fill it from the high side close to the pumps, but I get OFF the blasted bike to see what I am doing.

I see what I can only assume is newbies sitting on their bikes and filling it. Most of them don't even have the side stand out. If something happens they are trapped and when the bikes goes down not on any stand more gas will pour out.

That will make one hell of a bad day. I agree 100% Mac...unbelievable

[hammer]

Roger that Mac. You won't catch me sitting and filling up.

[Top Cat]

I've been doin' it that way since 1967 ;)

[cactusjack]

I've been doin' it that way since 1967 ;)

1967? What did you do, stoke the boiler with firewood?

Just because you haven't had a problem yet doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. I'd sure as hell hate to be sitting on a burning bike with my crotch on fire. Just sayin'...

[dakota7557]

This is why I like to be off my bike when filling up with gas...Static electricity can be a killer.
Although it's a car, I believe it could happen to anyone... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFbqCtaHtxY

[ponch]

I've been doin' it that way since 1967 ;)

1967? What did you do, stoke the boiler with firewood?

Just because you haven't had a problem yet doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. I'd sure as hell hate to be sitting on a burning bike with my crotch on fire. Just sayin'...

TC is the russian, then again so could I...


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[macmac]

TC your just lucky. For female riders this is reven worse as they tend to wear nylons and tend to create static electricty. Also females filling up cars and trucks tend to get back in the vehical and then discharge at pump shut off time.

They should not get back in the vehical and they should have on hand on the vehical.

I have been hurt bad a number of times and once was burned bad of a larger area, neck and right shoulder.

I can tell you the last place I would want to be is crippled from a major injury, unable to move and on fire.

This is as bad or maybe worse than riding with no lid!

Anyone who ever spilled any fuel on their crotch will wanna be dammned naked pretty fast too, male/female. I never have, but I have spilled gas on my socks, and that ate up some skin to, because I ignorred the burning feeling and I wasn't even on fire.

As an x tech I can out fire out with gas, but I am not going to tell how. I can weld a gas tank too that had gas, but that tank sure isn't dead empty either.

Besides being a welder with mig, arc, and gas I am a fire maker with 2 sticks. I know how fire works.

Pretty much TC I am begging you to not do this anymore.

Mean while I took 3 or 4 risks today with gas, trying to kill a vole in my taters. I mowed the area outside the garden fence where it has created trenches, and then pulled the weeds off the stones at the base of the fence, and last 3 or 4 times spread gas around an area 2 feet by 25.

With a long boat hook, a rag soaked in gas, I set the area on fire with a great big flash WOOF. The rag wetted burns rather slow, but that scattered droplets goes up in a Whoose, and that's mean and nasty.

[ponch]

And static is worse as it gets cooler.

[macmac]

Yeah in winter I get hit all the time getting out of most any vehicals, I am getting a tad miffed on that and may add ground straps to what I drive most.

[Bull Durham]

Yeah in winter I get hit all the time getting out of most any vehicals, I am getting a tad miffed on that and may add ground straps to what I drive most.


I think you'll just find out it's you, Mac. Some people just seem to produce or more prone to static electricity than others.

[Bull Durham]

I suppose it's about mitigating risk. No one is saying you have to do it, but on the other hand, it can help a lot with simple spills. Just ask Gary Busey. ;)

My God, Gary Busey was half a little off today BEFORE he got in a cycle accident!

[macmac]

Yeah in winter I get hit all the time getting out of most any vehicals, I am getting a tad miffed on that and may add ground straps to what I drive most.


I think you'll just find out it's you, Mac. Some people just seem to produce or more prone to static electricity than others.

Oh yeah, I am sure it from my nylon womans panties http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ponch]

I suppose it's about mitigating risk. No one is saying you have to do it, but on the other hand, it can help a lot with simple spills. Just ask Gary Busey. ;)

My God, Gary Busey was half a little off today BEFORE he got in a cycle accident!

That's true, but it didn't help.

[Dave]

TC your just lucky.

He needs to stay away from BBQs, also. :)

[Top Cat]

TC your just lucky.

He needs to stay away from BBQs, also. :)

You guys on here have way to good of a memory. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Mac, I tried to fill up the tank today by getting off the bike and filling from the high side. Not comfortable with that at all. Got back on the bike and finished filling.
Maybe next fill up I will try from the kickstand side.

[macmac]

Don't know why that would be TC. Your taller than I am. I fill on the high side since the cap it closer to the pump.

I think I just got the BBQ thing, That was about me and that dammned ash, when they burned card board in the fire pit in NY. That sucked sartin! I a u sed to getting rust flakes and saw dust chips in my eyes, but that blasted ash was a Royal Pain.

I can only wonder what's in that ash. I compost a ton of cardboard and get good garden soil of it.

[Top Cat]

Mac, the BBQ thing was intended for me.
Go to this thread and you will see he was bustin my chops. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

http://www.vulcanbagger.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=23249

[macmac]

I did wonder if Dave had been on the NY tour last year, and I missed knowing that. Off to read the tale of the wayward BBQ http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif