Bandito Alumni???

[markclark57]

My employment as a Plumbing/Heating service Tech led me to the home of some nice folks of Bandito's M/C.
Got me thinking. . . Do we have any club patch holders on this forum?

[Netnorske]

My employment as a Plumbing/Heating service Tech led me to the home of some nice folks of Bandito's M/C.
Got me thinking. . . Do we have any club patch holders on this forum?

I can't see any Bandido M/C member riding a metric bike. Just sayin'..... http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif ::) http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif.

[Jared]

Or fessing up to it.....

Oh, by the way, do we have any drug dealers on the forum either???

[Loafer]

Or fessing up to it.....

Oh, by the way, do we have any drug dealers on the forum either???

Why do you ask? ::)

[cactusjack]

Or fessing up to it.....

Oh, by the way, do we have any drug dealers on the forum either???

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Right on!

[mobandy78]

I'm not a Bandito member...

But, I'm a member of the KAWANOW group ;) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

And, a member of RRMA http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif ;)

[wiz]

I joined KawaNOW while I was in prison, to keep from being beat up by the Goldwingers. From there, it was a downward spiral into radial tires, fairings and other mods. I'm not proud, but there it is...

[phenrichs]

I joined KawaNOW while I was in prison, to keep from being beat up by the Goldwingers. From there, it was a downward spiral into radial tires, fairings and other mods. I'm not proud, but there it is...

I don't care who ya are, that's funny!

[cnc]

Or fessing up to it.....

Oh, by the way, do we have any drug dealers on the forum either???

Useful to know. If you look at the age group here, I'm sure a lot of us are into drugs. I'm a recreational user of anti inflammatory drugs and proud of it. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Loafer]

You are all on your own...

[Dave]

Oh, by the way, do we have any drug dealers on the forum either???


If we can't call illegal aliens illegal because of P.C., then I'd like to refer to drug dealers as undocumented pharmacists.

[Bull Durham]

Wiz,

That was a good one! LMAO

[rewindgy]

That's why I love crossing the border from Canada to the USA - they always ask if I have anything to declare?? And I always reply " yes, I'm old!" Do you have any drugs? " yes, other wise I'd be dead!" what business do you have in the US? " what, I'm in the US?" Screws them up every time! Bastard's have no sense of Humor!!!

[waterman]

My employment as a Plumbing/Heating service Tech led me to the home of some nice folks of Bandito's M/C.
Got me thinking. . . Do we have any club patch holders on this forum?

I can't see any Bandido M/C member riding a metric bike. Just sayin'..... http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif ::) http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif.

Good thing. Otherwise you would have us all in trouble with your comments to 1%'s. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Top Cat]

Actually we do have a patch holder here. He mentioned it awhile back. I'm not saying though. If he cares to jump in that's up to him. http://s2.images.proboards.com/lipsrsealed.gif

[Loafer]

TC, I guess it's safe to ASSume it's not you?

[markclark57]

I was hoping to stir somthing. LOL didn't expect as much humor.
For the most part the ones (patch holders) I've met are regular folk, just misunderstood. . . and they like it that way.
My "Drug Dealer" works at Costco. I take a hand full every morning, and a few at night too. =O

[Top Cat]

TC, I guess it's safe to ASSume it's not you?
I have a KawaNOW patch. Does that count?

[Loafer]

Did you get it while you were in jail?

[Top Cat]

How did you know I was in jail ???

[Loafer]

The first time we met, you had on a pink jumpsuit with "D.O.C. I'm Yours", stamped on it.:)

[Top Cat]

The first time we met, you had on a pink jumpsuit with "D.O.C. I'm Yours", stamped on it.:)

Your not helping my image around here Gerry http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

[Loafer]

Ooops...I forgot that wasn't an e-mail. Sorry. Anyway did you get to keep the suit?

[cnc]

The first time we met, you had on a pink jumpsuit with "D.O.C. I'm Yours", stamped on it.:)

Your not helping my image around here Gerry http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

Tim, your image was blown, before Gerry got started. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ringadingh]

I think the favorite drug here would be Lipitor. thats why all the wild party's at the rallies are usually over by 10pm http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[cnc]

I think the favorite drug here would be Lipitor. thats why all the wild party's at the rallies are usually over by 10pm http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Must be more readily available south of the border. ::) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[oledawg]

I think the favorite drug here would be Lipitor. thats why all the wild party's at the rallies are usually over by 10pm http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

::) I kind of lean more toward Crestor myself! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ballast]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gifI know all the words to the Frito Bandito commercial of old.

[Loafer]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gifI know all the words to the Frito Bandito commercial of old.

Ok, you should make a video of yourself. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif Without pictures or video it doesn't count. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[glwilson]

Oh my...

To the original post's intent... I would be surprised a patchholder would be on this site as mentioned by others.

I couldn't imagine what their interest would be with KawaNOW -- unless they simply want to hear a bunch of old men mumble about nothing most of the time -- or pop-off to each other (which this group does an incredible job at). http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[cnc]

Oh my...

To the original post's intent... I would be surprised a patchholder would be on this site as mentioned by others.

I couldn't imagine what their interest would be with KawaNOW -- unless they simply want to hear a bunch of old men mumble about nothing most of the time -- or pop-off to each other (which this group does an incredible job at). http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif


Should you use pop off and old men in the same sentence?

[Netnorske]

I think the favorite drug here would be Lipitor....

I'm placing my money on Viagra....and no, you can't have any of mine... http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif.

[cactusjack]

Haha, my "drugs of choice" are One A Day Silver and a double hit of glucosamine & chondroitin. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[joe3407nomad]

There will be a lot of drugs at the National!
PS I don't think, especially after looking at some of our members pics, that there will be a need for the Viagra.

[ringadingh]

There will be a lot of drugs at the National!
PS I don't think, especially after looking at some of our members pics, that there will be a need for the Viagra.


Sometimes a few drinks make you see things in a different light. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[sas]

I guess you could say I'm chemically dependent, too. Seven different pills each morning. 'Course by evening the scotch flushes what's left of them out of my system so I can start all over the next morning. It's a vicious cycle we druggies live in. Oh, wait! What was the question? Umm, yes. I mean no. No, I don't have a club patch either.

[elvis]

There will be a lot of drugs at the National!
PS I don't think, especially after looking at some of our members pics, that there will be a need for the Viagra.


What is Viagra you guys speak of?

[elvis]

That's why I love crossing the border from Canada to the USA - they always ask if I have anything to declare?? And I always reply " yes, I'm old!" Do you have any drugs? " yes, other wise I'd be dead!" what business do you have in the US? " what, I'm in the US?" Screws them up every time! Bastard's have no sense of Humor!!!

If you tried doing that at Peace Arch border crossing, you'd be detained, regardless of which way you're going.

[Kawhead]

I was hoping to stir somthing. LOL didn't expect as much humor.
For the most part the ones (patch holders) I've met are regular folk, just misunderstood. . . and they like it that way.
My "Drug Dealer" works at Costco. I take a hand full every morning, and a few at night too. =OI know the feeling. I godda close family member who's misunderstood also. He had to do 9yrs on possession with intent to distribute meth, selling to multiple undercover LEOs, possession of stolen firearm, possession, receiving and distributing stolen property.

I'm tired of typing, http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif, anyway he was misunderstood.

Oh, and I ain't got no patch 'cept for a Darkside patch, and thats only because I have a car tire on my Nomad and occasionally bed with dark, hair lipped, web footed Amazon women.

[markclark57]

I finished the call for the Bandito folks . . . by the way Mr. Bandito is a sailor currently at sea as a Bowsman, the Mrs. works for a local utility provider, their daughter is a high school student on the honor roll. . .
Did I mention "nice folks"? I think I get more mles on my Nomad (12,000 miles on a 2006) than they even have a chance at on their HD.

[MAS Tequila]

How did you know I was in jail ???


Maybe it was those breast tattooed on your back?

http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnS2xixCMCU

MT

[mobandy78]

Oh my...

I couldn't imagine what their interest would be with KawaNOW -- unless they simply want to hear a bunch of old men mumble about nothing most of the time -- or pop-off to each other (which this group does an incredible job at). http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif


Old men?! Who said anything about being old? There's a couple of us young yipper-snappers on here. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif Utah and myself have barely grown up! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[cnc]

Oh my...

I couldn't imagine what their interest would be with KawaNOW -- unless they simply want to hear a bunch of old men mumble about nothing most of the time -- or pop-off to each other (which this group does an incredible job at). http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif


Old men?! Who said anything about being old? There's a couple of us young yipper-snappers on here. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif Utah and myself have barely grown up! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Who says any of us have grown up? ::) ::)

[redjay]

Rat poison (Warfarin) every day for me. Not killed this old rat yet.

[glwilson]

Ha!!! Okay, I'll retract the statement about there only being old-men on here!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

I am not making any comments about popping-off though. :) http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

[ponch]

I don't think there are sociopaths or psychopaths in Kawanow, so that pretty much takes care of 1%ers. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif ;) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[markclark57]

I don't think there are sociopaths or psychopaths in Kawanow, so that pretty much takes care of 1%ers. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif ;) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Now there's a couple of ...paths I don't care to ride. ;)

[ponch]

I don't think there are sociopaths or psychopaths in Kawanow, so that pretty much takes care of 1%ers. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif ;) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Now there's a couple of ...paths I don't care to ride. ;)

A lot of people have had good dealings with them. I am sure it's true, but these guys usually deal in drugs, prostitution, and other non-legal ways of generating income. I haven't had any direct dealings, but from what I have read, they really aren't any different than the mob and probably have a lot in common. I'll pass. having to deal with legitimate authority is bad enough. :)

[glwilson]

Legitimate authority? Where do you find that? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ponch]

Legitimate authority? Where do you find that? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Those elected and appointed by those elected. ;)

[joe3407nomad]

Hey, we all have a lot of hair, its just not in the same place it used to be!

[Cajunrider]

There will be a lot of drugs at the National!
PS I don't think, especially after looking at some of our members pics, that there will be a need for the Viagra.


What is Viagra you guys speak of?

One day you'll find out Elvis. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[markclark57]

Legitimate authority? Where do you find that? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Those elected and appointed by those elected. ;)

Seems like there should be a couple more electeds appointed to elect some more to be appointed by the elected. . . or something like that?????

[bobhamlin]

I don't think there are sociopaths or psychopaths in Kawanow, http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Well, not quite. I keep forgetting, but ....

TC, which one are you again?

;)

[henryk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't audiogooroo just earn his patch? :)

[ponch]

Those elected and appointed by those elected. ;)

Seems like there should be a couple more electeds appointed to elect some more to be appointed by the elected. . . or something like that?????

There's more appointed than elected, and that my friend, is the beginning of bureaucracy.

[ponch]

I don't think there are sociopaths or psychopaths in Kawanow, http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Well, not quite. I keep forgetting, but ....

TC, which one are you again?

;)

He's a kawanowpath....

[Loafer]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't audiogooroo just earn his patch? :)

Actually, I think he stumbled into it... ;)

[ponch]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't audiogooroo just earn his patch? :)

Actually, I think he stumbled into it... ;)

It was appointed.

[Loafer]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif TC, is a Kawipath! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Top Cat]

[color=beige:njo3ioqd]TC is one of the nicest, down to earth, compassionate people you will ever meet.[/color:njo3ioqd]
Ha, that's a joke you narcissistic fool.
[color=beige:njo3ioqd]Hey, no one was talkin' to you. Get back in my subconscious where you belong.[/color:njo3ioqd]
No, I want to come out and play with the big guys.
[color=beige:njo3ioqd]Forget it. You get me in too much trouble when I let you out.[/color:njo3ioqd]
Let me out? Let me out? You don't LET me out. I can come out whenever I want.
[color=beige:njo3ioqd]That's what you think, Now get back,[/color:njo3ioqd] no,[color=beige:njo3ioqd]yes[/color:njo3ioqd],no,[color=beige:njo3ioqd]yes[/color:njo3ioqd], I said I want out NOW.......................................

[markclark57]

Aah, he a Scitsophranic Kawipath. (so I can't spell big psych words and its not in my spell-check)

[Kawhead]

I know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I hate dealing with folks that have psychotic problems that are hard to spell let alone pronounce. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Loafer]

[color=beige:mmy415bq]TC is one of the nicest, down to earth, compassionate people you will ever meet.[/color:mmy415bq]
Ha, that's a joke you narcissistic fool.
[color=beige:mmy415bq]Hey, no one was talkin' to you. Get back in my subconscious where you belong.[/color:mmy415bq]
No, I want to come out and play with the big guys.
[color=beige:mmy415bq]Forget it. You get me in too much trouble when I let you out.[/color:mmy415bq]
Let me out? Let me out? You don't LET me out. I can come out whenever I want.
[color=beige:mmy415bq]That's what you think, Now get back,[/color:mmy415bq] no,[color=beige:mmy415bq]yes[/color:mmy415bq],no,[color=beige:mmy415bq]yes[/color:mmy415bq], I said I want out NOW.......................................

I knew it! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Loafer]

Aah, he a Schizophrenic Kawipath.

There you go... ;)

[MAS Tequila]

And no one else can hear all the voices?

MT

[Loafer]

I don't think BD wants to hear any of the voices! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[MAS Tequila]

Neither do I, but that doesn't stop them!

MT

[cnc]

[color=beige:fzixdmrt]TC is one of the nicest, down to earth, compassionate people you will ever meet.[/color:fzixdmrt]
Ha, that's a joke you narcissistic fool.
[color=beige:fzixdmrt]Hey, no one was talkin' to you. Get back in my subconscious where you belong.[/color:fzixdmrt]
No, I want to come out and play with the big guys.
[color=beige:fzixdmrt]Forget it. You get me in too much trouble when I let you out.[/color:fzixdmrt]
Let me out? Let me out? You don't LET me out. I can come out whenever I want.
[color=beige:fzixdmrt]That's what you think, Now get back,[/color:fzixdmrt] no,[color=beige:fzixdmrt]yes[/color:fzixdmrt],no,[color=beige:fzixdmrt]yes[/color:fzixdmrt], I said I want out NOW.......................................

Do you have names for your multiple personalties? It would be nice to know who we are actually talking to. http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[mobandy78]

You know, life's a funny thing... I was reading all these posts about Bandito members last Thursday & Friday, and sure enough, I met one after work Friday at a leather shop.

Well, we really didn't meet, so to speak. Let's say I saw him and he saw me. I nodded, as in, "how's it going" type of nod and he nodded back. That was it... he geared up and got on his HD as I was shutting mine down and then he was gone. He was a clean cut guy, not your typical "biker" look. Heck he could've been a doctor or a dentist or whatever. The only way I knew was by his vest and his back patch.

Then, on Saturday, I'm on the other side of town with my riding group for breakfast, and there happens to be a Mongul meeting of some sort at the same place! There were about 5 or 6 of them there and they had their own room in the restaraunt with the doors closed. They were gone by the time we left, but that got me to thinking...

I wonder what happens when these guys see each other somewhere around town? Is there some kind of truce that they have where they just leave each other alone? Do they know where the "safe" areas are and what area they should stay away from? How does that work?

[Loafer]

You know, life's a funny thing... I was reading all these posts about Bandito members last Thursday & Friday, and sure enough, I met one after work Friday at a leather shop.

Well, we really didn't meet, so to speak. Let's say I saw him and he saw me. I nodded, as in, "how's it going" type of nod and he nodded back. That was it... he geared up and got on his HD as I was shutting mine down and then he was gone. He was a clean cut guy, not your typical "biker" look. Heck he could've been a doctor or a dentist or whatever. The only way I knew was by his vest and his back patch.

Then, on Saturday, I'm on the other side of town with my riding group for breakfast, and there happens to be a Mongul meeting of some sort at the same place! There were about 5 or 6 of them there and they had their own room in the restaraunt with the doors closed. They were gone by the time we left, but that got me to thinking...

I wonder what happens when these guys see each other somewhere around town? Is there some kind of truce that they have where they just leave each other alone? Do they know where the "safe" areas are and what area they should stay away from? How does that work?

As long as you aren't standing between them, I don't think it matters... ;)

[glwilson]

I am only going by what I have read, and what a person I know who has been around HA's a fair amount has told me when I asked such questions.

No... they don't like running into each other; and mostly will try to avoid each other.

Depending on where it is and if the two local clubs (or districts) have a "beef" with each other could determine if trouble would erupt.

Typically, in a public place like a restaurant, you wouldn't see anything happen. In a bar... could be a different story -- however these clubs do not necessarily hang-around public bars too much; and if they do, they know what bar which club goes to and mostly stay away.

There are certainly bars where two clubs or more could find themselves frequenting it; but in these bars the bar typically will not let them wear their colors. (Sturgis is one place that typically does not allow colors in a lot of the bars -- so I am told.)

I am a bit surprised that you saw this group having a meeting in a public room, unless they felt their club-house wasn't secure for some reason. I suppose there could be other reasons though.

I know the OL's and HA's have been having a fair-share of troubles among the two. OL's have been starting clubs in quite a few areas typically considered HA territory. North Carolina comes to mind most recently. The OL's have been intentionally going into HA territory. The result has been very bloody in some instances from reports.

Several years ago locally the OL's started a club in my area where the HA's have been located. The battle that ensued ended in death of one HA and a lot of others injured. There are still some OL's and HA's in prison over this battle. This particular battle was highlighted on a History Channel special about biker-clubs.

In addition, clubs do not generally like to interfere in other clubs' "charity events". The obvious reason is that they do not want the bad publicity that would result from causing problems at these events.

Also, oddly enough, you can occasionally find several clubs hosting events where other clubs join-in on the party. There are plenty of pictures of competing clubs together at such functions.

There are obviously exceptions to all of the above, but generally this is the way I have been told and have read it to be.

Last but not least, there are a wide variety of individuals that are members of these clubs... from ministers to doctors, to engineers and business-owners, and those that are just common people. While they would make-up an extremely small percentage... they do exist. ;)

If anyone else has more; then chime-in. http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

[mobandy78]

I am a bit surprised that you saw this group having a meeting in a public room, unless they felt their club-house wasn't secure for some reason. I suppose there could be other reasons though.

I'm not sure if they were having a meeting or not. Just noticed that there were a few of them in a closed door area while we were there. They may have just been there to eat the good food. :)

[Top Cat]

Mo, why didn't you just kick the door open and ask them what the hell they thought they were doing with a room of their own? ???

[mobandy78]

Mo, why didn't you just kick the door open and ask them what the hell they thought they were doing with a room of their own? ???

HAHA... It did cross my mind. http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/> But, then they looked at me with an evil eye and motioned me away. :-[ http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

No, I don't think they even knew I was there. :)

[cnc]

Mo, why didn't you just kick the door open and ask them what the hell they thought they were doing with a room of their own? ???

Probably because he did not have you there to back him up TC. ::) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Netnorske]

Last year at the Sky Valley Antique Motorcycle Show in downtown Everett....there were at least five (or more) MC's who had members in attendance. Everyone was pleasant and there were no incidents as people just enjoyed the music, old bikes and hanging out. I'm really looking to forward to this years event next month!

The ones I can remember are....

Bandidos
Alky Angels
Blue Knights
Jolly Rogers
Marines

[blackdogbrian]

closest I ever came to being one was when I was crossing the boarder with some other buds (on bikes).
I was lead bike - boarder guard kept questioning me about what type of group we were, were we a gang, were we HA bandidos, .....

funny thing
I was on the kawi
next in line was a Goldwing towing a trailer
then a crotch rocket
and so forth......

What self respecting outlaw club would we be?

lol

And I don't ride showing any patches, whether it be friendly clubs (like this group) or anything - I'm not trying to fool anyone into thinking I'm something other then a guy on a bike!

[Top Cat]

Mo, why didn't you just kick the door open and ask them what the hell they thought they were doing with a room of their own? ???

Probably because he did not have you there to back him up TC. ::) http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

What's with the rolling eyes emoticon Norm? I would have backed Mo up. Well, I would have backed up anyway ;) all the way to the exit. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[socwkbiker]

The Bandidos Ft. Worth chapter hosts a teddy bear run for BACA Dallas and FT. Worth every year. They collect teddy bears that we give to children when we conduct our ceremonial adoption. I went to the event last year and got asked questions by a Bandido patch. Worse, I was still a prospect at the time, so the members of my chapter got really nervous. Nothing happened. I just went into military mode, answered the questions straight forward and went about my way. Not big deal.

At the Austin ROT rally, the different clubs set up their individual camp sites. It may be like Sturgis where they aren't allowed to wear their colors or aren't allowed to act out. Besides, it's not good publicity if they go around causing problems. Makes it difficult to engage in their "business" transactions.

From what I've been told, at many events, the dominant 1% club tend to feel they don't have to pay for anything simply because of who they are. Sometimes that can make it difficult for the group putting the on the event.

Also, if you are patched by a club, as I am, and you are riding, it's best to not pass 2 or more members of a 1% club unless you feel like being pulled over and answer why you passed them. That happened to a friend of mine. Luckily, she's one of the baddest women you would ever not want to meet and she was "allowed" to go on. But sometimes these guys take pleasure in taking the person's vest which causes all sorts of problems.

As for TC and his voices, it's no wonder he and BD are best friends. BD hears voices too. From his iron and polished bike. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[cnc]

TC I think you just answered your own question on the rolling eyes. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

SWB that was an interesting read.

[ponch]

The Bandidos Ft. Worth chapter hosts a teddy bear run for BACA Dallas and FT. Worth every year. They collect teddy bears that we give to children when we conduct our ceremonial adoption. I went to the event last year and got asked questions by a Bandido patch. Worse, I was still a prospect at the time, so the members of my chapter got really nervous. Nothing happened. I just went into military mode, answered the questions straight forward and went about my way. Not big deal.

At the Austin ROT rally, the different clubs set up their individual camp sites. It may be like Sturgis where they aren't allowed to wear their colors or aren't allowed to act out. Besides, it's not good publicity if they go around causing problems. Makes it difficult to engage in their "business" transactions.

From what I've been told, at many events, the dominant 1% club tend to feel they don't have to pay for anything simply because of who they are. Sometimes that can make it difficult for the group putting the on the event.

Also, if you are patched by a club, as I am, and you are riding, it's best to not pass 2 or more members of a 1% club unless you feel like being pulled over and answer why you passed them. That happened to a friend of mine. Luckily, she's one of the baddest women you would ever not want to meet and she was "allowed" to go on. But sometimes these guys take pleasure in taking the person's vest which causes all sorts of problems.

As for TC and his voices, it's no wonder he and BD are best friends. BD hears voices too. From his iron and polished bike. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

So, are you a 1% MC member or just a MC member? I know a couple guys that are BACA, but I never really asked them about it.

[Top Cat]

The Bandidos Ft. Worth chapter hosts a teddy bear run for BACA Dallas and FT. Worth every year. They collect teddy bears that we give to children when we conduct our ceremonial adoption. I went to the event last year and got asked questions by a Bandido patch. Worse, I was still a prospect at the time, so the members of my chapter got really nervous. Nothing happened. I just went into military mode, answered the questions straight forward and went about my way. Not big deal.

At the Austin ROT rally, the different clubs set up their individual camp sites. It may be like Sturgis where they aren't allowed to wear their colors or aren't allowed to act out. Besides, it's not good publicity if they go around causing problems. Makes it difficult to engage in their "business" transactions.

From what I've been told, at many events, the dominant 1% club tend to feel they don't have to pay for anything simply because of who they are. Sometimes that can make it difficult for the group putting the on the event.

Also, if you are patched by a club, as I am, and you are riding, it's best to not pass 2 or more members of a 1% club unless you feel like being pulled over and answer why you passed them. That happened to a friend of mine. Luckily, she's one of the baddest women you would ever not want to meet and she was "allowed" to go on. But sometimes these guys take pleasure in taking the person's vest which causes all sorts of problems.

As for TC and his voices, it's no wonder he and BD are best friends. BD hears voices too. From his iron and polished bike. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Jeff is the patched member I refered to earilier in one of my posts. I didn't name him as I figured if he wanted it know he would make it known himself.

[ponch]

The Bandidos Ft. Worth chapter hosts a teddy bear run for BACA Dallas and FT. Worth every year. They collect teddy bears that we give to children when we conduct our ceremonial adoption. I went to the event last year and got asked questions by a Bandido patch. Worse, I was still a prospect at the time, so the members of my chapter got really nervous. Nothing happened. I just went into military mode, answered the questions straight forward and went about my way. Not big deal.

At the Austin ROT rally, the different clubs set up their individual camp sites. It may be like Sturgis where they aren't allowed to wear their colors or aren't allowed to act out. Besides, it's not good publicity if they go around causing problems. Makes it difficult to engage in their "business" transactions.

From what I've been told, at many events, the dominant 1% club tend to feel they don't have to pay for anything simply because of who they are. Sometimes that can make it difficult for the group putting the on the event.

Also, if you are patched by a club, as I am, and you are riding, it's best to not pass 2 or more members of a 1% club unless you feel like being pulled over and answer why you passed them. That happened to a friend of mine. Luckily, she's one of the baddest women you would ever not want to meet and she was "allowed" to go on. But sometimes these guys take pleasure in taking the person's vest which causes all sorts of problems.

As for TC and his voices, it's no wonder he and BD are best friends. BD hears voices too. From his iron and polished bike. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

So, are you a 1% MC member or just a MC member? I know a couple guys that are BACA, but I never really asked them about it.

Since you ride a Nomad, I probably could answer my own question. ;)

[socwkbiker]

I'm a patched member of BACA, Bikers Against Child Abuse. We are not a 1% club in any way, shape or form. We don't have the 3 piece patch. On the patch, attached to the bottom of the fist is our chapter name. We don't claim territory like 1% clubs and we certainly don't engage in illegal activity of any sort. We're also not technically a MC because we don't have the rockers, but we're not a riding club either. We walk that very fine line between being a MC and not being a MC

We don't condone what any of the 1% organizations do, but we will accept their teddy bear donations. I have never heard of anyone accepting their money though. That could cause problems.

[waterman]

we certainly don't engage in illegal activity of any sort.

May not be illegal, but talking to BD definately is questionable. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ponch]

we certainly don't engage in illegal activity of any sort.

May not be illegal, but talking to BD definately is questionable. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

And possibly dangerous...

[phenrichs]

especially if you get allergic reactions to overstarching......... Ha ha Ha. Although the man does appreciate some mighty fine cigars.

[Loafer]

I can't say that I have ever seen any banditos, outlaws or pagans. Usually see HA's in Vt. and N.H. On a trip to the Supershow in Toronto, I only saw HA's. Never have I been bothered, but then I usually stay clear of them.

[ponch]

I can't say that I have ever seen any banditos, outlaws or pagans. Usually see HA's in Vt. and N.H. On a trip to the Supershow in Toronto, I only saw HA's. Never have I been bothered, but then I usually stay clear of them.

In Iowa we have Sons of Silence and El Forasteros.

[Loafer]

I can't say that I have ever seen any banditos, outlaws or pagans. Usually see HA's in Vt. and N.H. On a trip to the Supershow in Toronto, I only saw HA's. Never have I been bothered, but then I usually stay clear of them.

In Iowa we have Sons of Silence and El Forasteros.

What? Are they mutes? http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[ponch]

In Iowa we have Sons of Silence and El Forasteros.

What? Are they mutes? http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Silence

http://www.sonsofsilence.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw_motorcycle_club

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_outlaw_motorcycle_clubs
http://www.elforasteromc.net/

[Loafer]

I knew of David Mann's work, but I didn't know this.|


David Mann—an American icon known for his depiction of motorcycles and the biker lifestyle—learned as much from Iowa’s outlaw bikers as they did from him.

By Tim Schmitt

Inside an Artists Studio on the west end of Snusville Business District, next door to the Hull Avenue Tavern—Des Moines oldest drinking establishment—a trio of tattooed bikers passes a magnifying glass among themselves. They’re examining a stockpile of goods they’ve assembled from personal stashes and fellow members of the Des Moines- and Sioux City-based El Forastero motorcycle club.

Spread out across a large conference table and lining the shelves of the room are dozens of prints, original paintings and pencil sketches from the late David Mann. He was a personal friend of this group of men—an El Forastero himself—and a legendary artist known for his centerfolds in Easy Riders, a magazine that portrayed motorcycles and the biker lifestyle.

Even if Mann’s name is not immediately recognized, his work is. As an artist, Mann captured the spirit of freedom and adventure the motorcycle represents in a way that touched bikers and non-bikers alike. In doing so, his work has become a permanent part of our collective national psyche and a fixture in American pop culture. Anyone who has ever straddled a bike and tore down the road knows his name—or should. But few are aware of his relationship with this band of brothers in Iowa that served as the inspiration for much of his work, or the influence Mann’s artwork had on the world of motorcycles.

“Dave built a lot of bikes with his brush,” explains Moose, a member of the El Forasteros for more than half of his 60-plus years. Moose is also an artist in his own right, who for four decades has been building the low-riding, chopped and dropped bikes now featured on television shows and popular with TV stars and weekend suit-and-tie bikers.

“Before us, there wasn’t anything like this,” Moose says. “There was nothing to see.”

The chopper, recognized by its extended forks, raised handle bars, lowered seat and streamlined appearance, was Mann’s passion long before it was fashionable in Hollywood. He saw his first chopper in California in the early `60s and fell in love. Upon returning home to Kansas City he shelled out $350 for his first bike—a 1948 Harley Davidson Panhead. He chopped it and entered it in the Kansas City Custom Car Show where the judges, not quite knowing how to respond to such a radical creation, created a new category and award for Mann on the spot.

But Mann also carried with him to this show his first bike painting, a piece that he created with watercolors titled “Hollywood Run.” The appearance of this bike and painting at the car show as well as a chance meeting with two outlaw bikers from Iowa changed Mann’s world and the motorcycle world forever.

The biker’s artist
Walking the corridors of the car show that day in 1963 were perhaps the only other two people in Kansas, or the Midwest for that matter, who understood Mann’s creations. Tom Fugle and Harlan “Tiny” Brower, founding members of the El Forastero motorcycle club in Sioux City, had for a couple of years been cruising the river city on chopped machines unlike anything that anyone had ever seen. The bikes’ radical designs inspired fear or passion, loathing or love. There was very little indifference.

So when they saw Mann’s bike and painting among the more common entries in the car show that day in Kansas City, they knew they’d found a brother.

“When we met it was like we had known each other for years,” Fugle said in a eulogy at a memorial service for Mann in 2004. “We had something in common—the chopper. It was something you either know or you don’t know.”

And if anyone knows a chopper, it’s an El Forastero.

In 1962, Tiny and Fugle, realizing there were a number of chopper riders around Sioux City, petitioned the Satan’s Slaves motorcycle club in California for permission to start a chapter in Iowa. The Slave’s laughed at the notion, so Tiny and Fugle founded the El Forasteros.

“The Forasteros has always been a chopper club,” explains Steve Humphreys, a member on hiatus from the club. “You have to have a chopper to get in.”

The club name, meaning “the outsiders” or “the strangers,” was perfect for the club that rode such strange machines understood by so few people.

“It was done out of spite,” Moose says. “The Slaves out of the San Fernando valley said there were no motorcycle people outside of the valley. We were outsiders even in our own world.”

Until this time, Mann’s artwork had focused mainly on pin-up girls and hot rods. But upon Fugle’s and Tiny’s advice, Mann began painting more bike scenes, concentrating on, as Tiny put it, “painting what you see.”

Somewhere down the line, Tiny sent a snapshot of Mann’s work to Big Daddy Ed Roth, a friend of the club and creator of a cult biker magazine called Chopper. Roth eventually commissioned 14 works from Mann, 10 of which were published and lithographed for posters produced through the magazine.

Roth was a shrewd businessman who stamped his own name and copyright on Mann’s paintings in such a way to detract attention from Mann’s signature. Mann received little recognition for these pieces and even less in compensation, but his influence and notoriety spread nonetheless.

Within a year, Mann had joined the El Forasteros as a founding member of the Kansas City chapter. With no formal art training, Mann continued to depict the world around him, sending images of the wild choppers in Iowa and the wild men who rode them to a growing audience around the world. As Mann’s work spread, so did the chopper and the El Forastero influence on the bike world.

By 1965, Mann had taken a job in the mail room of Scheffer Studios in Kansas City, where he befriended Dave Poole, an architectural renderer who recognized Dave’s artistic ability. Poole taught Mann architectural rendering and airbrushing, which Mann used often in his later work. From Poole he learned to represent detail, reflection, exacting dimension and mechanical perspective—all skills that added even more realism to his already lifelike creations.

Mann went on to study surrealism, tromp l’oeil and fantasy at the Kansas City Art Institute where he mastered the use of gouache and acrylics. The effort combined with his talent led some to rightly compare his work to that of other American masters such as Norman Rockwell and Leroy Neiman.

In 1971, Mann responded to an ad in the back of a new magazine called Easy Riders that was looking for a motorcycle artist. The publishers wisely responded, and for the next 32 years Mann created centerfolds for the magazine, drawing what he saw—mostly the El Forasteros in Iowa and Missouri with whom he rode. He retired in 2003 due to failing health.

Though Mann was largely responsible for making Easy Riders a success and for further popularizing the chopper and biker culture, he once again failed to earn proper compensation for his submissions. He never owned the rights to his work, and he profited little, if at all, from the many calendars, prints and other uses of his work that found their way into homes and garages.

History on the basement wall
Looking through Mann’s catalog of work, especially in the presence of long-time members of the El Forasteros, is a lesson in history.

The bikes in the paintings are actual creations ridden by Tiny, Fugle and several other members of the club, most of whom are depicted themselves atop their prized rides. The bike runs depicted and the parties and gatherings are also often real events that Mann saved for posterity.

“These were real things that happened and if he wasn’t there, Tiny would tell him about them and he’d put it to paper,” Moose says.

Steve Humphreys is an El Forastero at heart, but for the time being he’s prohibited from wearing the club’s patch or associating closely with club members due to the conditions of his parole earned after nine years in federal prison. While in prison, Humphreys passed the long hours looking at bikes in calendars and dreaming up the bike that Moose would build him as a post-prison gift.

“That’s how I did my time, thinking about bikes and looking at pictures Moose sent me,” recalls Humphreys, who received permission from his parole officer to meet with his old comrades to discuss Mann’s artwork for this article.

Humphreys first saw Mann’s work as many others did, hanging in the garage of fellow club members.

“I thought, ‘who the f--k is this guy, drawing these bikes?’” Humphreys says.

While doing his time, Humphreys also developed a greater understanding and appreciation of the art behind the creation of a chopper—whether created in Moose’s garage or in David Mann’s paintings. He also recalled the many sketches and original works of Mann’s that were tacked to the wall of the Forastero clubhouse or taped to the wall in Fugle’s basement, yellowing with age. He set about collecting the works, buying them from Fugle or convincing the club to have them framed and mounted for the sake of preservation.

“This was just something Dave did for us,” Humphreys says of the drawings. “He’d sketch this out and hand it to Tom and say ‘here you go,’ and he’d hang it on the wall and let water drip on it for 30 years.”

The thumbtack holes, water drips and circular stains from the bottoms of beer bottles are still noticeable in many of the early sketches, now preserved for posterity’s sake with the images themselves. The Sioux City Art Center displayed the collection recently and, in appreciation of the El Forasteros loaning them the work, had the original paintings and sketches professionally matted and framed.

“I told Tom 30 years ago that it all needed to be saved,” Humphreys says. “It’s nostalgic. It’s history. To me, it can never be replaced.”

Changing Times
The collection Humphreys has assembled is impressive. And he is intimately familiar with the work, carefully pointing out the unusual vertical brushstrokes Mann used to create a fiery night sky in one painting and recalling the real-life identities and histories of the bikes and people in the scenes.

One of the originals now in Humphreys’ possession, an oversized piece called “Tecate Run” was Mann’s second painting. The image depicts Tiny, Fugle and members of the Galloping Gooses and Hell’s Angels with the city of Tecate, Mexico, burning in the background. The burning of the city, whether accurate or not, was attributed to these clubs and contributed to their outlaw standing in the motorcycle world, a distinction these clubs bear with honor.

When the actions of a small group of motorcyclists began garnering a lot of negative media attention in the 1950s, motorcycle sales began to slip. In response, a representative of the American Motorcycle Association publicly proclaimed that 99 percent of bikers were good people and that only one percent of riders were out looking for trouble.

Those few outlaws accepted this designation and began distinguishing themselves as One Percenters, adding a patch to their jackets indicating their proud membership in the elite group. A few clubs—the Hell’s Angels, the Galloping Gooses, Satan’s Slaves and the El Forasteros—share the patch.

Mann was only able to represent these club’s patches in his work because he was one of them—a member who walked the walk. Yet even this was not enough to always keep him from drawing some member’s anger. Around 1975 Mann contributed a painting to Easy Riders called “My Old Gang,” which was a close-up view of the El Forasteros’ Fugle, Grey Cat, Tiny, Skip Taylor and Dan Jungroth.

The painting was unusual in that the focus was more on the riders of the bikes than the bikes themselves. Several Forasteros were not pleased with the unwanted publicity and were ready to rough Mann up a bit to make sure it didn’t happen again, but Humphreys convinced them to let the incident pass.

“This was a real picture of a real scene,” Humphreys says. “The El Forasteros always try to stay out of the limelight. We only ever wanted to be chopper riders and a band of brothers. There were some guys who were pissed off about it. We didn’t want the publicity.”

But times have changed. Thanks in no small part to Mann’s artwork spreading the image of the El Forasteros and their bikes to every corner of the world, the popularity of this style of bike has surged. And with that has come new publicity and even fame for some of the long-term members that was never anticipated.

It’s all about the bikes
While showing off his collection and talking about Mann’s work, Humphreys casually takes a phone call from the Discovery Channel’s Brett “The Big Schwag” Wagner informing him that the channel will be featuring him in an upcoming episode of “Monster Garage Road Rage”—after careful editing of his “colorful language,” of course. And Moose, the longtime chopper builder who influenced Mann, has been featured in an early episode of the show with Jesse James.

But it’s something they all take in stride now. They realize, just as Mann did, that the fame, money and glory are not the goals in creating such works of art. It’s the love of the medium and act of creation itself that matters.

“The things they build [on these shows] today are things I done years ago, and I realize now I’ve been a part of this for 40 years,” Moose says. “And I don’t just build a bike for anyone.”

The difference, his brothers are quick to point out, is that Moose was building these bikes by bending steel over his knee and cutting metal by hand long before million-dollar, computer-driven machines did the work for you.

Though the current popularity of the chopper is due in no small part to the builders who toiled in creating these monstrosities for fellow club members, Moose acknowledges that Mann was an important part of this evolution.

“David Mann had a lot to do with that. I don’t know how many bikes he created with his art,” Moose says, who first met Mann in 1966, only a year after he started building bikes. “A lot of what I tried to do with the bikes, the way I designed them, was based on how Dave painted the bikes to look like they were moving. I tried to design my bikes so that so they looked like they were moving even when they were sitting still.”

Though whether Mann first portrayed the Forasteros’ bikes this way or the Forasteros built their bikes this way as a result of Mann’s work is unknown. It’s likely a lot of both.

The clean lines, flowing frame and intricate paint jobs on Moose’s choppers make the bike appear to be either in motion or full of pent-up energy, ready to explode on the highway at the first chance.

The bike Moose built for Humphreys as his get-out-of-prison gift is classic Mann. He sits low on the seat, arms outstretched to the raised handlebars with custom engravings from some of the worlds most famous bike builders, artists and designers. The bike itself appears to be flying down the highway—even when sitting still.

“This is the same image that Mann painted 40 years ago,” Humphreys says. “It’s a timeless image.”

That’s exactly what Mann knew and portrayed so perfectly.

“Dave Mann changed the way bikes look in this country, but Moose changed the way David Mann saw bikes,” Humphreys says. “Now it has spread everywhere, and they’re driven by everybody, and they don’t even know where they came from.”

But thanks to the effort of this band of outlaws and brothers to save Mann’s work for posterity and share it with a new generation, that may just change.






“Family,” "Comin' at ya" and “Ghost Rider” courtesy of Paisano Publications, Easy Riders magazine and
Segal Fine Art • 800-999-1297, www.motorcycleart.com. (http://www.motorcycleart.com.)

[markclark57]

Thank you Loafer. That is some awesome history.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

Thanks Gerry, that was a nice write up. I enjoyed it.

[cnc]

Thanks Gerry that was an interesting read. I have heard of David Mann, and seen some of his work featured ( I believe it was on some bike show on TV ). I don't think they went into the depth in explaining the history of his association with choppers and the people who first created them the way this article does.

[phenrichs]

Mostly Bandidos (or a brother club) here. There are a few smaller ones but they are pretty well affiliated as well. My trouble is many people that I have known and been friends with for years join one of these clubs and by association I get a lot of "recruiting" type of introductions. It always makes me nervous because you never know when politely declining one could send the wrong message. You know, you still want to be friends with the person and all but it makes it uncomfortable sometimes. You just never know when it is ok to say hello in public and when it isn't. I usually stick to the rule that if there is only one or sometimes two other members with them I will say hello. Otherwise I will wait for them to say hello first.

[Loafer]

Thanks to Jim [Ponch]. He listed some sites to check out and I found the David Mann article. It is very interesting. Orange County Choppers built a bike for Mann, but he passed before it was completed.

[mobandy78]

Thanks to Poncharillo. He listed some sites to check out and I found the David Mann article. It is very interesting. Orange County Choppers built a bike for Mann, but he passed before it was completed.

I remember watching that show. They had Mann's family meet somewhere and rode the bike to them to unveil it to the family. The family loved the bike and were overwhelmed with emotions upon seeing the bike for the first time.

[tombstone]

. Although the man does appreciate some mighty fine cigars.

Well then he can't be alll bad! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[markclark57]

Much of my youth was in the shadow of Ol' School 1%ers. Chopper Magazine and Easy Riders Magazine were always popular as well as David Mann. I had friends and associates in multiple MC's. My older brother had more assocations than I did, but I never had much respect for my older brother. Probably why I never got more involved with the MC's.
A combination of no recent contact and previous really good and some not-so-good memories was the spark that got me to start this thread. If the "Steve Humphreys" previously mentioned is the same one I spent some "time" with in the 1980's. He is one of the most respectable riders that I have ever met.

[socwkbiker]

especially if you get allergic reactions to overstarching......... Ha ha Ha. Although the man does appreciate some mighty fine cigars.

He's used to having big, long tubes in his mouth. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[phenrichs]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[markclark57]

Now there's a high jack of a diferent (rainbow) color. =O

[ponch]

Now there's a high jack of a diferent (rainbow) color. =O

only Sword Swallowers and Bone Smokers need apply.

[markclark57]

Does the rule of 8's apply? Nevermind, TMI, that's a diferent kind of 1%. . . ;)

[ponch]

Does the rule of 8's apply? Nevermind, TMI, that's a diferent kind of 1%. . . ;)


No, we are talking the dirty sanchez and the soul train here.

[markclark57]

LOL http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif ;b ;P :)

[markclark57]

Hmmm, Emotions doesn't like raspberries. . . =b,,, =P''' :0

[blackdogbrian]

wow, this went downhill FAST!

[Loafer]

MUDSLIDE

[ponch]

Up to the wristwatch with crisco.

[Loafer]

AAAhhh....so what flavor Fritos do you all enjoy?

[ponch]

At least it's not Freddie and her vise.

[glwilson]

I'm lost... and I think I'm glad I am http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

[ponch]

I'm lost... and I think I'm glad I am http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

Listen to Frank Zappa, Bobbie Brown from Sheik Yerbooti.

[shine]

most 1% mc's in the usa require you to either ride a american or british bike..other countries may differ. i am in a 3 piece patch mc, that is not a 1% club, but is a serious mc, requiring a lenghty prospecting time, a 100% brother vote, and then a "probate" period, after you patch, before you are considered a true brother. not all 1% mc's wear the 1% diamond either. there are 3 piece patch clubs, that are not outlaw clubs as well..military,law enforcement, fire dept's just as a example. there is way more to it, where on the vest the patches are located, bottom rockers, state and or region rockers, etc..my mc requires a cruiser type motorcycle of 650cc or over. almost all ride hd, as i did when i first prospected. i ride a 07' 1600 black nomad currently. i think alot of the serious mc's realized that the brand don't make the man, or how much grit or bone he has in his back, or how big his heart and or nad's are, and were losing alot of potential good brothers who either preferred metric bikes, or couldn't afford a hd. the old we were at war with japan, don't cut it, as we fought the british too. the bmw...er, we fought the germans too...and the southern states mc 's surely don't need no "yankee" milwalkee bike, lol. i got good naturely ribbed when i sold my hd, but the brothers know what a great looking and reliable scoot my bike is. but back to the original thread, yes, some outlaw type mc's do ride metric, as do a small % of 1% club members. i do not know what the bandidos mc require for thier members though, although i do remember reading once about a member spotted riding a goldwing. might have been doing a friend a favor or whatever, but a nice bike for sure.

[Loafer]

most 1% mc's in the usa require you to either ride a american or british bike..other countries may differ. i am in a 3 piece patch mc, that is not a 1% club, but is a serious mc, requiring a lenghty prospecting time, a 100% brother vote, and then a "probate" period, after you patch, before you are considered a true brother. not all 1% mc's wear the 1% diamond either. there are 3 piece patch clubs, that are not outlaw clubs as well..military,law enforcement, fire dept's just as a example. there is way more to it, where on the vest the patches are located, bottom rockers, state and or region rockers, etc..my mc requires a cruiser type motorcycle of 650cc or over. almost all ride hd, as i did when i first prospected. i ride a 07' 1600 black nomad currently. i think alot of the serious mc's realized that the brand don't make the man, or how much grit or bone he has in his back, or how big his heart and or nad's are, and were losing alot of potential good brothers who either preferred metric bikes, or couldn't afford a hd. the old we were at war with japan, don't cut it, as we fought the british too. the bmw...er, we fought the germans too...and the southern states mc 's surely don't need no "yankee" milwalkee bike, lol. i got good naturely ribbed when i sold my hd, but the brothers know what a great looking and reliable scoot my bike is. but back to the original thread, yes, some outlaw type mc's do ride metric, as do a small % of 1% club members. i do not know what the bandidos mc require for thier members though, although i do remember reading once about a member spotted riding a goldwing. might have been doing a friend a favor or whatever, but a nice bike for sure.

Thanks, I'm glad that not all groups are stuck on a brand only. You never know, that different thinking person might be someone of interest.

[ponch]

most 1% mc's in the usa require you to either ride a american or british bike..other countries may differ. i am in a 3 piece patch mc, that is not a 1% club, but is a serious mc, requiring a lenghty prospecting time, a 100% brother vote, and then a "probate" period, after you patch, before you are considered a true brother. not all 1% mc's wear the 1% diamond either. there are 3 piece patch clubs, that are not outlaw clubs as well..military,law enforcement, fire dept's just as a example. there is way more to it, where on the vest the patches are located, bottom rockers, state and or region rockers, etc..my mc requires a cruiser type motorcycle of 650cc or over. almost all ride hd, as i did when i first prospected. i ride a 07' 1600 black nomad currently. i think alot of the serious mc's realized that the brand don't make the man, or how much grit or bone he has in his back, or how big his heart and or nad's are, and were losing alot of potential good brothers who either preferred metric bikes, or couldn't afford a hd. the old we were at war with japan, don't cut it, as we fought the british too. the bmw...er, we fought the germans too...and the southern states mc 's surely don't need no "yankee" milwalkee bike, lol. i got good naturely ribbed when i sold my hd, but the brothers know what a great looking and reliable scoot my bike is. but back to the original thread, yes, some outlaw type mc's do ride metric, as do a small % of 1% club members. i do not know what the bandidos mc require for thier members though, although i do remember reading once about a member spotted riding a goldwing. might have been doing a friend a favor or whatever, but a nice bike for sure.

Thanks, I'm glad that not all groups are stuck on a brand only. You never know, that different thinking person might be someone of interest.

I find it funny that groups like 1%ers are so stuck on rules and territory. It's kind of hypocritical and ironic being they are outsiders and all. Usually, you'd think motorcyclists/bikers would be the most open, but I guess they succumb to the tribe disease as any other group.

[glwilson]

Is it really any different than KawaNOW... a group based on a single model of a motorcycle?

[ponch]

Is it really any different than KawaNOW... a group based on a single model of a motorcycle?



Actually, I think we are also Vaquero now as well.

[ponch]

Is it really any different than KawaNOW... a group based on a single model of a motorcycle?



I think the KawaNOW folk are some of the most open people I have met online or in person. As much as I can be a quasi-autistic prick, I am still here. I have been on quite a few forums, lists and a couple groups and you guys are the best. As much as I kind of like the brotherhood aspect of the 1% groups, I know for a fact I would break a rule sometime and I don't cotton to corporal punishment. It wouldn't end well.

[vulcans2]

So I guess the motto of the KawaNow group is "Born to be Mild?"
OR
"Ride to eat, eat to ride?"

Either might apply to this pseudo-hardcore bunch. LOL!!

[Bull Durham]

KawaNow members also aren't adverse to people owning other type of motorcycles and being on the forum. Yes, they get a ribbing now and then, but all in good fun.

[Top Cat]

Is it really any different than KawaNOW... a group based on a single model of a motorcycle?



And you ride a what http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[skeeter]

just what does that flag represent? if that flag speaks to what your all about and you want to stand up for it then, go right on ahead and fly the colors. Know a few folks that "belong " to the Bandidos that don't fit the mold and got no business associating and it's beyond me why they would promote their existence. If they want to be seen as non conformist they fail in that they have conformed to the 'want to be seen as a badass' mentality.

It's much tougher to do good than it is to give in to nature. I'm prospecting to do good and live right and I hope to patch out in the here-after.

[markclark57]

just what does that flag represent? if that flag speaks to what your all about and you want to stand up for it then, go right on ahead and fly the colors. Know a few folks that "belong " to the Bandidos that don't fit the mold and got no business associating and it's beyond me why they would promote their existence. If they want to be seen as non conformist they fail in that they have conformed to the 'want to be seen as a badass' mentality.

It's much tougher to do good than it is to give in to nature. I'm prospecting to do good and live right and I hope to patch out in the here-after.



Ditto's on that.
One of several reasons I never "patched" is that I don't conform well with others - regardless who!!!
That's also one of the reasons I get along well with KawaNOW. . . Nobody expects me to Conform to their - whatever.
Concerning brand names. . . When I was considering whether or not to join, I noticed that owning, have owned, or appreciating the Nomad had equal credibility.

[Loafer]

I'm the Sargent of Arms, of the

"Captain Candies Bad Ass Biker Gang".

I hope that doesn't scare anyone off. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[glwilson]

I'm the Sargent of Arms, of the Captain Candies Bad Ass Biker Gang. I hope that doesn't scare anyone off. :)

LMAO!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

I also like the comment... "ride to eat... eat to ride" http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Yeah... we're a tough bunch around here... http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

[markclark57]

I'm the Sargent of Arms, of the Captain Candies Bad Ass Biker Gang. I hope that doesn't scare anyone off. :)

LMAO!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

I also like the comment... "ride to eat... eat to ride" http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Yeah... we're a tough bunch around here... http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif

Yea, not many 1% clubs out there that could out eat the KawaNOW bunch. Our restaurant/pub stops on some rides rival the payment on a HD. That's alright though because most of our rides are already paid for. =0 ;)

[waterman]

I'm the Sargent of Arms, of the

"Captain Candies Bad Ass Biker Gang".

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

BD must be a charter member. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[Loafer]

I'm the Sargent of Arms, of the

"Captain Candies Bad Ass Biker Gang".

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

BD must be a charter member. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Starchies ride tail. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[bobhamlin]

Rockers? We doan need no steenking rockers!

[markclark57]

BD must be a charter member. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Starchies ride tail. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Or is there a hidden meaning???
Every other word would either be "Captian bad biker" or "Candy ass gang".

[ponch]

I'm the Sargent of Arms, of the

"Captain Candies Bad Ass Biker Gang".

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

BD must be a charter member. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

He's not only a member, but he's the president!

[skeeter]

LMAO! I appreciate the humor here. Thanks I needed the lift.

[Top Cat]

Rockers? We doan't need no stinking rockers!

Well, I don't know about you Bob but I enjoy sitting in my rockin' chair. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[waterman]

Rockers? We doan't need no stinking rockers!

Well, I don't know about you Bob but I enjoy sitting in my rockin' chair. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Should change your name from Top Cat to Old Fart. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[socwkbiker]

Old Fart and Starchie! LMAO!!! That should be a new motorcycle show! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[markclark57]

Old Fart and Starchie! LMAO!!! That should be a new motorcycle show! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Starchie Old Fart??? Does that have anything to do with Pop-Corn??? =O

[ponch]

Old Fart and Starchie! LMAO!!! That should be a new motorcycle show! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Starchie Old Fart??? Does that have anything to do with Pop-Corn??? =O

The Popcorn Surprise?

[skeeter]

I hate it when that happens.

[socwkbiker]

I wonder if any of the 1% clubs would have a duo like Starchie and Old Fart?

[Dave]

I wonder if any of the 1% clubs would have a duo like Starchie and Old Fart?

Those 1%'s are tough but not THAT tough!