What Nomads have extra comparing to base model?

[car5car]

I know only hard saddle bags. What else? What buyer of new Nomad gets for extra $1500(?) What is the price difference between base model and Nomad?

[Jared]

When you say basemodel, I assume you're referring to a classic, right?

The Nomad comes with bags, wind shield, lowers, engine guards, sissy bar, passenger floorboards, dually exhause and probably a few other things that aren't coming to mind. None of which come on the classic.

[mobandy78]

Rear luggage rack came with mine too, as with the stuff noted above.

Does the classic have a luggage rack? Maybe I'm mistaken... that's happened before ;)

[Jared]

Rear luggage rack came with mine too, as with the stuff noted above.

Does the classic have a luggage rack? Maybe I'm mistaken... that's happened before ;)

Luggage rack does not come stock with the nomad.

[jestephens]

Speaking from memory when looking at the 1600's, the Nomad is a couple inches longer than the Classic too.

From what Utah mentioned, and a longer ride. I'm surprised it's only a $1500 difference http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif I love my Nomad http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[landman]

jared's list is pretty complete but you also get the rear crashs bars on the nomad that help protect the bags in case of a tip
over.

[mobandy78]

Thanks Jared... I didn't know.

My dad originally bought the bike, so I just assumed that the rack was a stock item. Guess that explains why people are looking for one. :)

[AlabamaNomadRider]

That about covers most of the differences that I can think of. Those front and rear crash bars will definitely save the bike. Don't ask me how I know.

[watchman]

I don't know about the 1600's or 1700's but on the 1500's there was a big different on the quality of seat on the Nomad compaired to the Classic. Also the charging system had more capacity so you could add more accessories.

[dank]

I read that the 1600 Nomad has more substantial steering bearings than the comparable classic when I bought mine. Don't know about the 1700 version. Passenger seat on the Nomad is better.

My son has the 1500 classic. Nice bike, but very different bike than the 1600 Nomad. A bit quicker off the line and the steering geometry seemed a bit sportier: a little more nimble in quick maneuvering, but also then a bit less stable in an all day ride on freeway across Montana. My Nomad left him behind on corners in general, but that could have been differences in us as riders or most likely the tires. His were stock and mine were E3's. So there are cosmetic differences, like the bags, but also significant differences in terms of types of performance. I'm assuming Kawasaki carried those through on the 1700's so the classic isn't simply a bagless Nomad.

[Jared]

I just did some quick research on bikez.com and the wheelbase for the 1500s are the same for the nomad or classic. With the 1600 it's 66.7vs 66.3", so pretty much the same thing. And on the 1700s the classics and nomads again have the same wheelbase.

Also, the 1500 and 1600 both have the same fork rake angle, of 32', while the 1700 has a 30' angle, according to bikez.com

[MAS Tequila]

On the 1500's at least they are very different bikes.

The Nomad has a wider stiffer different frame not to mention dual front disc brakes.

MT

[MAS Tequila]

In 99 all the 1500's except the Meanies and Drifters became dual stator systems.

[macmac]

jared I think something is off. The 1500 and 1600 have different rake by 2 degrees so far as I know. The 1600 is easier to deal with in a parking lot. The 1500 is more stable at highway speed.

[Jared]

jared I think something is off. The 1500 and 1600 have different rake by 2 degrees so far as I know. The 1600 is easier to deal with in a parking lot. The 1500 is more stable at highway speed.

It could be....? I'm just stating what I found when I google searched for the specs.

[Jared]

Even on the KawaNOW specs sheet it says the 1500 and 1600 Nomad both have a 32' rake angle..?

http://www.kawanow.org/specs.htm

[skiman]

The 1500 and 1600's are all 32 degrees the 1700 is 30 degrees they did shorten the trail very slightly .2 inches in 2006 on the 1600

[ringadingh]

I know that the forks are spaced wider apart on the 1600's than they are on the 1500 Nomads.
Overall I think the Nomad is a good deal compared to the classics with all of the upgrades that they come with.

[bobhamlin]

5 gallon+ tank mentioned?

[Cajunrider]

What sold me on the 2007 Nomad over the similar equipped Yamaha was the 2 year warranty. The Yammy had only 1 year of factory warranty. For some reason, the dealer was pushing the Yamaha. He seemed a little dissapointed when I chose the Nomad. Could have been commision. The Yammy was $100 more on the sticker.

[ringadingh]

5 gallon+ tank mentioned?
The first couple years the Nomads came with rather small fuel tanks. That was one of their weak points. After about 2002 they did increase the capacity of the tank. Even a bit larger yet would be a good idea if they could make one.

[Cajunrider]

You're right Steve.....a 6 gallon tank would be a plus.

[moloprintz]

Doesn't the Nomad have a different transmission than the Classic?
Touring transmission?
I can’t remember riding with anyone who gets into 5th at a higher speed than my Nomad.

[markclark57]

I was shopping for H-D when I bought my 2006. Decided mostly on the butter smooth ride. I have to wink at $1,500.00 comparison since I was ready to drop another $7,000.00 for a H -D with similar gear.
I'm not a crash test dummy, but I dropped her HARD September 5th 2010. A few scratches and a new set of guards was about all that was damaged on the Nomad. . . I'm still healing. ;-)

[rickyboy]

I was shopping for H-D when I bought my 2006. Decided mostly on the butter smooth ride. I have to wink at $1,500.00 comparison since I was ready to drop another $7,000.00 for a H -D with similar gear.
I'm not a crash test dummy, but I dropped her HARD September 5th 2010. A few scratches and a new set of guards was about all that was damaged on the Nomad. . . I'm still healing. ;-)


I don't mean to hijack this but ......
Sorry to hear you "dropped her hard". Do mean that literally or were you riding when you "dropped her hard?" The reason I ask is I also "dropped her hard", but was riding at the time. There were more than a few scratches. Bottom line was approx. $6800. incl. labour to fix it right. Just curious.

[MAS Tequila]

The trans are the same. The only difference between a Classic and A Nomad engine wise is the color.

The engine in mine is from a 1600 classic. When I rebuilt it I used the left case and heads from the original 1500 Nomad engine.

The Meanie's and Drifters are also the same with the exception of being a single stator vs a dual stator set-up. But the dual stator can be installed on these also. Guy Mobbley at SCP does it all the time.

MT

[caper]

anyway not bad for another 1.500 bucks!

[timebandit]

http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif"CLASS" http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif that's what a Nomad has over a classic! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[kovo1787]

On the 1700's there is different tuning on the Classic and Nomad, the max torque occurs at a few hundred rpm sooner on the classic. Also, on the 1700 Classic the floor boards are mounted further forward than they are on the Nomad. That was enough of a difference for me that I was uncomfortable on the Classic and the Nomad fit me like it was made for me.

Kovo

[ponch]

jared I think something is off. The 1500 and 1600 have different rake by 2 degrees so far as I know. The 1600 is easier to deal with in a parking lot. The 1500 is more stable at highway speed.

I believe the 1600 has a longer wheel base than the 1500 or 1700. The 1600 is heavier than the 1500 too, and I imagine the 1700 is the heaviest of the trio.

[canuckrider]

I know only hard saddle bags. What else? What buyer of new Nomad gets for extra $1500(?) What is the price difference between base model and Nomad?

car5car,
Are you talking about the difference between the new 1700 models? If so just go to Kawasaki.com and pull up the Nomad specs and click on the COMPARE PRODUCTS button and then drop in the Classic's specs. It won't give you all the details but will provide the mechanical specs. From what I can see for the 2011 models there is very little difference from the mechanical side.

Major differences between the base 2011 Nomad and base Classic are:
Windshield & Lowers
Electronic Cruise Control
Hard bags
F & R crash bars
"Touring" (Kawasaki's description) seats and rear passenger backrest

Not sure where you came up with the $1500 difference. In the USA the MSRP for the base 2011 Nomad is $15,499 and the base Classic is $12,199, a $3,300 difference. Again that's at MSRP but when considering what the dealer will actually accept, the difference could and would likely be less.

In my opinion, assuming that you want all these extras and if you were to add all these items, either OEM or aftermarket to a base Classic (especially if you're painting aftermarket hardbags to match) you're going to spend more than the difference that the dealer would originally want for a Nomad.

[ponch]

My advice is, if possible, buy the bike with as much built into it as you can afford in terms of features and options. It's easier than adding it later and it will be covered under warranty. What can't be added from the manufacturer, you will be left to do yourself.

Bikes tend to be better than cars in this respect. Car dealers order cars with certain trim levels and they are priced accordingly. You can't really order a car with specific factory options like we used to be able to do. The best you can do is get to the dealer before he orders his cars for the year and have him order a trim level you want. May be you'll have some options, but they will probably be dealer installed. Some motorcycle manufacturers will allow special orders and almost all will do dealer installed options that will be waranteed.

So my advice is get the bike how you want when it leaves the showroom, if that is possible.

[egetaseb]

That about covers most of the differences that I can think of. Those front and rear crash bars will definitely save the bike. Don't ask me how I know.

I know exactly how you know :-[