Gas mileage on the 1700

[kingbee]

Wanna be rider...I have been a member for a while but no bike, I am just about ready to trade this old Chevy z71 (2001) for a nice Nomad.
Heres my question, I get 19-21 miles to the gallon on the old truck and would hope to get more out of the bike, So what is the mileage like for the newer Nomads? I can remember years ago the little Yamaha 125 I had and it seemed to run forever,so much so that it really was a surprise when it did run out of fuel..

[ringadingh]

you should get about 40mpg give or take acouple mpg.

[AlabamaNomadRider]

That doubles what you are getting with the truck. With the price of gas it will pay for itself over time.

[cnc]

My bike gets least double the mileage my truck gets, but it is a
b!t@h hauling sheet-rock on the Nomad in any kind of cross wind. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ringadingh]

I also have a Z71 truck and it gets about the same mileage as yours in the warmer weather. City driving in cold weather causes the mileage to drop to about 10-12 mpg. When I drive the truck to work and back, about a 40 mile round trip, Im lucky to do it for $25.00 a day in fuel at tosays prices. Thats why I like using the bike as much as I can.

[Jared]

If you aren't using a ds tire, all the money you save on gas will go into the tires you have to replace every 10K miles. I'd never get the nomad in order to save money.

[tombstone]

If you aren't using a ds tire, all the money you save on gas will go into the tires you have to replace every 10K miles. I'd never get the nomad in order to save money.

What Jared says is true, tire expense will eat up any gas savings.* If you out to save gas money a scooter or smaller bike would do you a better job. Having said that, I have a 1700 Nomad and only get under 40 when I put in a bunch of superslab miles and I'm ignoring the speed limit, which is rare... Other wise I get 42 -45mpg

*Unless you go to the Darkside

[Sin City Stan]

Riding one up on a 1700 Nomad I get 35-38 MPG. Allot depends on the action of your right wrist but these numbers are pretty much the average.

[kingbee]

Hey ,I'm trying to convince the wife we need a bike .Somethings gotta go though my truck or her car and her car gets better milage.
I have been wanting a nice red & gold nomad since 2008.I will get one some day,fingers crossed!

[cnc]

Well If you don't really need the truck, then why not? You can always rent a truck or a van for a day if you need to haul something.

[deacon]

It has been my experience that any gas savings are used up on joy riding and "bling"!

[cnc]

It has been my experience that any gas savings are used up on joy riding and "bling"!

And that is a negative thing? ??? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[dennis49]

My Nomad which is only the 1500 gets mid 30’s in town and road combined while using winter gas. With summer gas its high 30’s low 40’s on occasion. I know this does not answer the question on the 1700 but I would not expect that much better or maybe lower. I use a scooter around town I have a 150 cc and when driving in hyper mode I can top 100 mpg, with normal driving I have no trouble staying in the upper 80’s lower 90’s and the scooter is much less maintenance.

If you ride a scooter you must be ready for all sorts of comments and able to let it roll off, if not you may not want to go this route. Get the Nomad forget about gas you get it to ride. And don’t think putting on your leathers and loud pipes while riding the scooter will take off any of the scooter comments. My scooter pictured here is a Suzuki Burgman (400cc) and it gets 60’s and 70’s with no problem and it cruses 70-75 with much less effort than my Nomad but hang on in a cross wind. And the Burgman will do 100 + if you ride on the fast side. I paid $1,000 for the 150 cc 2006 TNG scooter and have put no money in it since, except for tires which were splitting but had many more miles of tread. I have let the remarks roll and love to ride the scooter in town and to work.

My fellow biking friends no longer tease about it and when they ride the scooter they understand the scooter thing. Well I let the cat out of the bag on the scooter thing, but for you just get the Nomad and enjoy every mile you put on it. Learn to be your own wrench and this will lower the somewhat higher than expected maintenance requirements. Just as a foot note I have been riding since 14 which equals 48 years and owned every bike you can name including 3 Harleys, BMW and many Honda’s and the Nomad ranks at the top just short of the 150cc Chinese scooter.

[ponch]

I have a 2009 Suburban and 19-21 would be almost fantastical. With the ethanol in Iowa, I get 16 at best. When I owned a 1600 Nomad, it got 35-37 on the gasohol, 40-43 off it on the times I travelled outside of Iowa and could get non-ethanol fuel.

[ringadingh]

It must cost about $200.00 to fill a Suburban nowadays, My brother inlaw has one and the gas stations love seeing him pull in.

[ponch]

It must cost about $200.00 to fill a Suburban nowadays, My brother inlaw has one and the gas stations love seeing him pull in.

depends. 32 gallon tank, 89 is $3 a gallon and E85 is $2.36. Still not cheap though.

[ringadingh]

Your getting a bargain compared to us Ponch, we are at $1.14 litre here, it doesn't matter if its has ethanol or not, we still pay the same price here.

[peterdarby]

I'm in there with Sin City Stan on the gas mileage (33-38) overall. But it runs great on regular.

[billmac]

If you aren't using a ds tire, all the money you save on gas will go into the tires you have to replace every 10K miles. I'd never get the nomad in order to save money.

I concur with Utah. I'd never get the Nomad in order to save money. (But cutting expenses is a good thing to tell the wife.) Tires, bling, etc. all add up. Most folks keep the second vehicle so now you have more insurance costs.

Some may attempt to argue, but I also believe a well cared for Chevy truck will easily outlast a similiarly maintained Nomad.

The drive to work will be more fun on the Nomad.

[kingbee]

Well I will more than likely keep the truck and wait for the bike but ....
Another note about gas,can someone tell me just why they stopped regular gas production ? and why is diesel so high now,it's a byproduct or gas? Give me a space and I can rant with the best lol.
thanks for all the replies.

[ringadingh]

Well I will more than likely keep the truck and wait for the bike but ....
Another note about gas,can someone tell me just why they stopped regular gas production ? and why is diesel so high now,it's a byproduct or gas? Give me a space and I can rant with the best lol.
thanks for all the replies.

I think it comes down to greed, if the oil companies can find a way to stick it to you they will. As vehicles are being made to achieve better mileage the oil companies see that as losing money, so they will raise the price, that way we use less fuel and get to pay more so they don't lose sales and end up with a lower quarter in their books.

[ponch]

Who's greedy? The oil companies make what, 8¢ a gallon profit? The state and local government takes many times more than that, and they haven't earned a cent of it. Who is greedy?



Well I will more than likely keep the truck and wait for the bike but ....
Another note about gas,can someone tell me just why they stopped regular gas production ? and why is diesel so high now,it's a byproduct or gas? Give me a space and I can rant with the best lol.
thanks for all the replies.

I think it comes down to greed, if the oil companies can find a way to stick it to you they will. As vehicles are being made to achieve better mileage the oil companies see that as losing money, so they will raise the price, that way we use less fuel and get to pay more so they don't lose sales and end up with a lower quarter in their books.

[ringadingh]

Both are greedy in my opinion.

[ponch]

Both are greedy in my opinion.

I don't find a business trying to make a profit, legitimately, greedy. 8¢ a gallon versus the fed and state:http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

Who is greedy? Who takes the risks? Who gets the crude out of the ground and refines it?

The governments, at best, are second handers, parasites that profit off other people's work.

Because fuel is mostly a necessity, there seems to be some sort of attitude of entitlement. Nothing could be further from the truth.

[cactusjack]

A couple of years back, when gas went over $4 a gallon, people cut back on driving - and by extension, gas sales went down. What did the states do? They cried about the loss of fuel tax revenue! Entitlement, indeed.

[ponch]

A couple of years back, when gas went over $4 a gallon, people cut back on driving - and by extension, gas sales went down. What did the states do? They cried about the loss of fuel tax revenue! Entitlement, indeed.

Entitlement on the part of the state and also some people. Are we entitled to $1 a gallon for gas? It would be nice, but market forces aren't there for that to happen.

[waterman]

and why is diesel so high now,it's a byproduct or gas?

New air quality regs have pushed the use of low sulfur for diesel. This drives the cost up dramatically. Many more additives as well as refinement to reduce sulfur levels.

[Sin City Stan]

A couple of years back, when gas went over $4 a gallon, people cut back on driving - and by extension, gas sales went down. What did the states do? They cried about the loss of fuel tax revenue! Entitlement, indeed.

That's because the State spends every nickle it collects and borrows against future nickles before they hatch. That's called budgeting. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ponch]

A couple of years back, when gas went over $4 a gallon, people cut back on driving - and by extension, gas sales went down. What did the states do? They cried about the loss of fuel tax revenue! Entitlement, indeed.

That's because the State spends every nickle it collects and borrows against future nickles before they hatch. That's called budgeting. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

It's still taking money by the force of law, not by earning it. You can't opt out of it and see what happens when you try. Try taking something from someone else because you are "budgeting". The government doesn't like competing authority.

[schoeney]

With all due respect..what kind of math do they use in Utah? A MC tire at $175 divided by 10,000 miles is .0175per mile, a gallon of gas @ $3 divided by 40 miles per gallon is .075 (savings is over .0375). So the cost of MC tires does not eat up the gas savings. Just sayin. ;)

With this said, buying a Nomad to save money does not compute because you will find yourself riding more miles, finding excuses to go out to lunch or coffee, or take overnight trips. http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

[tombstone]

With all due respect..what kind of math do they use in Utah? A MC tire at $175 divided by 10,000 miles is .0175per mile, a gallon of gas @ $3 divided by 40 miles per gallon is .075 (savings is over .0375). So the cost of MC tires does not eat up the gas savings. Just sayin. ;)

With this said, buying a Nomad to save money does not compute because you will find yourself riding more miles, finding excuses to go out to lunch or coffee, or take overnight trips. http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

The math is valid, and has been proven many times. You are just using the mc tire cost, to answer the OPs question you have to figure in the entire motorcycle expense. Every article I read indicates tire expense is the difference between a bike saving on gas money or not; and those articles have been on bikes that get 8 to 10K miles per tire. My Nomad gets less than half that on a rear MC tire. A gas saver it is not, a smile producer it is.

[Jared]

With all due respect..what kind of math do they use in Utah? A MC tire at $175 divided by 10,000 miles is .0175per mile, a gallon of gas @ $3 divided by 40 miles per gallon is .075 (savings is over .0375). So the cost of MC tires does not eat up the gas savings. Just sayin. ;)

With this said, buying a Nomad to save money does not compute because you will find yourself riding more miles, finding excuses to go out to lunch or coffee, or take overnight trips. http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

These are the kind of numbers I was thinking of. Sure, if you are compairing the motorcycle to a truck that get 12mpg it's a different story. But these seem to be realistic numbers, don't they? If you are saving money, it's not a lot assuming you have to use something for transportation.

Car that gets 30 mpg for 50,000 miles
It will use 1666 gal of gas X $3.00 = $4998
Tires $100X 4 tires = $400
Grand total of = $5398

Motorcycle that gets 40 mpg for 50,000 miles
It will use 1250 gal of gas X $3.00 = $3750
Tires $175X 2 tires(10,000miles) X 5 = $1750
Grand total of = $5500

[ponch]

Suburban gets 16 if that, bike gets 43. Well, I'll take the bike if I can. Tank in car=$96, bike=$21.30. Range, car=512 miles, bike=305. I am being generous with the car though. 16 is really highway with gasohol. 14-15 is more like it (with E85 it's more like 11). So, I can go 4.5 tanks in the bike to equal the tankful in the car on a cost basis, tank to tank. That's almost 1400 miles. If only I lived some place warmer to take advantage of it.




With all due respect..what kind of math do they use in Utah? A MC tire at $175 divided by 10,000 miles is .0175per mile, a gallon of gas @ $3 divided by 40 miles per gallon is .075 (savings is over .0375). So the cost of MC tires does not eat up the gas savings. Just sayin. ;)

With this said, buying a Nomad to save money does not compute because you will find yourself riding more miles, finding excuses to go out to lunch or coffee, or take overnight trips. http://s2.images.proboards.com/angry.gif:(" title=">:(" border="0"/>

You are correct that at $3 and 40mpgs it's .075, but I'd assume you have to drive something. Maybe a car that get 28 mpgs, meaning you are only gaining 12mpgs by using a motorcycle.

[Jared]

Suburban gets 16 if that, bike gets 43. Well, I'll take the bike if I can. Tank in car=$96, bike=$21.30. Range, car=512 miles, bike=305. I am being generous with the car though. 16 is really highway with gasohol. 14-15 is more like it (with E85 it's more like 11). So, I can go 4.5 tanks in the bike to equal the tankful in the car on a cost basis, tank to tank. That's almost 1400 miles. If only I lived some place warmer to take advantage of it.





You are correct that at $3 and 40mpgs it's .075, but I'd assume you have to drive something. Maybe a car that get 28 mpgs, meaning you are only gaining 12mpgs by using a motorcycle.


With a big Suburban, I can believe it! But then again, you can carry 12 people in a Suburban!!!!! Did you factor that!!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[ponch]

Suburban gets 16 if that, bike gets 43. Well, I'll take the bike if I can. Tank in car=$96, bike=$21.30. Range, car=512 miles, bike=305. I am being generous with the car though. 16 is really highway with gasohol. 14-15 is more like it (with E85 it's more like 11). So, I can go 4.5 tanks in the bike to equal the tankful in the car on a cost basis, tank to tank. That's almost 1400 miles. If only I lived some place warmer to take advantage of it.




With a big Suburban, I can believe it! But then again, you can carry 12 people in a Suburban!!!!! Did you factor that!!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

12, no. I do 7 and 8 is possible. Bike is 2, at least in this country.

http://payvand.com/news/07/dec/Family-on-motorcycle-Herat.jpg

[ringadingh]

Wow! a gay couple with five kids on a bike? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gifLOL

[ponch]

Wow! a gay couple with five kids on a bike? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gifLOL

boy buggery is a big thing over there.

[Loafer]

Wow! a gay couple with five kids on a bike? http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gifLOL

boy buggery is a big thing over there.

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[kingbee]

Boy for bike people it really seems like a few maybe really trying to talk me out of it, lol. Sometimes if I had a bike I (in theory) should be able to get away from wife,3 kids, and the headaches of life for away.... I know I would have to come back to reality sooner or later.....But for a few lone roads I could be free what every that means.....lol

One day I'll ride too............

[tombstone]

Boy for bike people it really seems like a few maybe really trying to talk me out of it, lol. Sometimes if I had a bike I (in theory) should be able to get away from wife,3 kids, and the headaches of life for away.... I know I would have to come back to reality sooner or later.....But for a few lone roads I could be free what every that means.....lol

One day I'll ride too............

If you factor in how much therapy costs and that riding a bike may eliminate the need for a therapist, then the bike will save you money. :)

[Loafer]

Boy for bike people it really seems like a few maybe really trying to talk me out of it, lol. Sometimes if I had a bike I (in theory) should be able to get away from wife,3 kids, and the headaches of life for away.... I know I would have to come back to reality sooner or later.....But for a few lone roads I could be free what every that means.....lol

One day I'll ride too............

Sometimes we get caught up in the details. :( Let your mind relax, and buy a Nomad. We all know how it feels to be out there enjoying our personal freedom. That is why we do it. Come and join us on the road, stop dreaming. ;)

[cnc]

Loafer is right, if we really analyze the cost of things we love to do, then we would never end up doing half of them. Sometimes it's just better to just go for it.

[donoller]

but the nomad pays back in other ways