Chuckster's Dual-Plate Setup - Thoughts

[taranis]

I received Joe Norris' Dual-Plate Intake kit a couple of days ago, and today I finally had a chance to get it out onto the open highway for a test. I bought the bike with the Vance & Hines Dual Baggers already installed. Later I added the Dolbeck TFI P&P unit and today was the final piece.

The installation process went pretty smoothly, even for a klutz like me. An hour later, it was ready to go, sans K&N filter, which arrived just today. A quick visit to Gadget's site provided me with some baseline settings for the TFI to compensate for the additional air (2:30, 6:00, 1:00, 9:00), and after making the settings changes, I was off.

The very first thing I noticed was how much more smooth the throttle was. That alone put a "wow" on my lips as I was headed out of the neighborhood. Seriously, I haven't ridden a bike with such linear throttle response since the '92 Shadow I used to own. I love that!

Once I got out to the main road leading to the highway, I couldn't stop myself after I made the turn, and romped on it - hard throttle in 1st, dropped it into 2nd and twisted as far as it would go. The bike just growled in response and took off. The power wasn't snap-me-back-in-the-seat; it was more of a powerful pull that, before the intake, wasn't there. Before I knew it, I was doing 60 in second gear.

Big-Papa-Grin! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

As I began to let off, I remembered that before the intake install, letting off while doing 60+ in a lower gear would result in a few backfires. After the install? Nothing.. just a smooth slowdown. Muuuch better! I was hoping the intake kit would fix that, and it did.

The real test was when I arrived at the pump. Even with the TFI, I've always had to put 93 octane in it to avoid pinging. I stood there for a second, wondering if I should risk a tank of mid-grade. I figured, "what the hell," and filled up on 89, then took it out on the highway.

For the rest of the ride home, about 5 miles, I tried everything I could to get it to ping. Even at 25 mph in 3rd gear, giving it full throttle, I couldn't do it.

Pulling back into the garage, the next thing I noticed was how cool the motor was compared to before the intake was installed. From the "tink, tink, tink"'s that were coming from it, it sounded like I only went around the block, not gave it a good thrashing for six miles.

Overall, I couldn't be more pleased with this setup. My Nomad runs better than ever. The sound coming from the pipes is deeper and full-throated, it runs 89 octane without pinging (YES!), and got a nice increase in power to boot.

Thank You - to the folks all over this board that make stuff like this possible. Trip, Joe Norris, and everyone else that contributes on this board.

Ya'll rock!

[Cajunrider]

Told ya.... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[taranis]

Told you.... http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

LOL. Yes sir, you did! And I took the advice too, but Ann wanted to get me the intake for Christmas, so that's why it took so long! Still, I'm like a kid that just left the toy store with a new rocket. Can't wait to go riding tomorrow!

[MAS Tequila]

I'm using the single plate, but yes, I agree.

MT

[leadbelly]

yep! made a difference with my de-affled stock pipes, no fuel processer. Also noticed a little more umph! and a better sound. Nice mod.

[scott2007nomad]

Did you do the coaster plates too?

[chuckster131]

Thanks for the post !! Nice write-up..

Isn't a great feeling to release some more of the pure power our scooters have.

[Jared]

The intake is a must on our 1600 engines. The stock intake is soo restrictive! Who thought it would be a good idea for the air to inter on the left side, go in a tube, going through the hot cylinders, and then enter the throttle bodies on the right side? It’s a horrible design in my opinion. Most intakes only provide a slight performance increase but because of the poor stock design it seems to make a much more drastic change on our bikes!

[dabull]

What is the difference between the dual intake setup versus the single side setup?? balanced looks? more power?? And if there are differences, what are they? TIA......

[chuckster131]

What is the difference between the dual intake setup versus the single side setup?? balanced looks? more power?? And if there are differences, what are they? TIA......

No difference in performance for either one, just personal preference. The dual plate kit keeps the balanced look and stock configuration or the single plate system is used when you want to have just the right side and remove all the other components from the left along with the cross over tube.

[dabull]

Thanks Joe....so to do the dual intake, what would be needed to order? The dual kit, coaster plates(?), spacers(?)

and crossover tube just stays in place?

Thanks again!

[Cajunrider]

Derry, All you need is Joe's dual plate kit, which has all of the needed hardware and a K & N E-3402 filter. Crossover tube stays in place and is blanked off with the inside plate. Filter fits between the plates and you keep the stock dog bowls on both sides. Instructions come with the kit.

[macmac]

Make the next tank full 87 octane. That is what this comp ratio should be rated for anyway.

Then see if you can get it to ping, and when you can't send me a 6 pack of La Batts http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

[taranis]

Ann & I took the bikes out today for a 327 mile ride through the piney woods of east Texas. If you look on Trip's personal site, part of the route included the Poynor Byway.
It was a fantastic day. Perfect for riding.

I did run a full tank of 87 through the Nomad after i used up the mid-grade from yesterday, and it didn't ping once through the entire tankfull. I'm liking that very much. Average mileage for the day was 32 mpg, and I confess I played with the newfound power a few times in the twisties today! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif. But I might need to back POT 1 & 2 off just a hair before the next ride. The motor feels a little rich. We'll see.

For those curious, I left the left side air cleaner and other stuff completely in-tact, more from laziness than anything else. It's all non-functional anyway and having left it there
will ease the transition back to stock if/when I decide to sell it.

Anyway, wanted to update the thoughts on the new setup after a good day in the saddle. To sum it all up, I should've done the TFI & intake the day I bought it!

Now Mac - I am a self-described Beer Snob. LaBatts?? That watery stuff? What's the point?? http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

Ya'll come on down here to Texas, warm up, take a ride or three with the Mrs. & I, and have some real beer! A good Heffeweisen or a Brown Ale. One you cant see through! A beer that, when you finish it, you feel like you just had a good meal!

And If you're of a mind for tradin', I'll whip up some good Texas BBQ for some of that homemade maple syrup any day!

[chuckster131]

Thanks Joe....so to do the dual intake, what would be needed to order? The dual kit, coaster plates(?), spacers(?)

and crossover tube just stays in place?

Thanks again!

Derry,
That is all you need, the dual plate kit and the E-3402 filter. You can add the coasters in if you prefer, those give the bike engine a cleaner look too.

[tbmmbt]

What does someone get if they buy the dual plate kit? Does the filter come with it or do you have to get that separate? Does Joe make one that goes on the left side rather than the right side? May be a dumb question but I figured it would be a little quieter on the left as compared to the right. A little less air flow from the left over to the right but you never know. I have just bought some Cobra True Duals to put on my 06 Nomad and if I get the dual plate system than I will assume that a TFI or Cobra fi2000r would also be neccessary. I had a TFI unit before but couldn't tell it did anything for my bike but make it use more gas without any performance difference. That thing was adjusted from here to yonder without anything good coming from it so I took it off and have rode with it since BUT all the talk has gotten me interested again and I will probably lean the Cobra route this time. Any info is helpful.

Thanks
Butch

[taranis]

The K&N filter doesn't come with the kit. You have to buy that separately. I bought mine from Amazon for $32, I think it was.

There's no point in putting an intake kit on the left side, since the biggest restriction to airflow is moving air through the filter, between the jugs and into the intake on the right. You could replace the stock filter with a K&N, I suppose, and it would give you greater airflow, but you won't get the input volume you would with the right-side kit. In fact, you'll just lean the motor out more than it already is and lose power if you don't have the TFI installed and tuned properly, and especially if you have the pipes AND the intake installed.

Just remember: More air in must = more air out. You can open up the exhaust, but without opening up the intake, you're not going to flow more air. Also, by opening up the intake but leaving the exhaust stock, you're also not going to flow more air greater than the pipes can handle during the compression strokes.

Since you have the new exhaust all ready to go, I'd put that on first, then get a fuel computer (TFI or Cobra - I've owned both on different bikes, they seem to be about equal) and tune it up. The Nomad runs lean from the factory anyway. You may think you're mileage is suffering with a fuel computer, but in fact, the motor is running the way it was designed to be run. With the correct a/f ratio, in my opinion, the motor runs smoother and much cooler than stock, even without the intake. The TFI unit comes with baseline settings for a stock Nomad, which will work for you, even after you have the pipes on.

Once you have those done, then do the intake. At that point you'll finally have increased air intake AND increased exhaust flow for all that air to escape from after combustion. At that point, it's a matter of dialing in the TFI/Cobra to get as close to a 13.5/1 air/fuel mixture as you can.

Hope that helps - sorry for the long-winded post. ;)

[flavor]

I love stories like this. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Open intake, TFI and exhaust. It doesn't get any better.......

[billmac]

I agree with everything Taranis said. I have the dual plate set up with a TFI and a stock debaffled exhaust. Big difference over no intake mod. We need to go riding Taranis. Cheryl and I will eat the BBQ you talked about.

[taranis]

I agree with everything Taranis said. I have the dual plate set up with a TFI and a stock debaffled exhaust. Big difference over no intake mod. We need to go riding Taranis. Cheryl and I will eat the BBQ you talked about.

We do need to go riding. And I'm always up for good BBQ, even if my waistline isn't right now. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[chuckster131]

What does someone get if they buy the dual plate kit? Does the filter come with it or do you have to get that separate? Does Joe make one that goes on the left side rather than the right side? Thanks
Butch

Hi Butch,
I don't make a kit for the left side, but that being said you can leave the left side stock and just do the right side. I can provide a filter with the kit if you want one.
You will really like the change/effects this mod does for you.

[1moresin]

joe,to use the stock dog bowl covers i must use a dual set up? can i set it up to leave left side stock and single set up with a k&n filter (E-3402) on rt with the dog bowl cover?

[ndbigfish]

The dual plate allows you to use a K&N E-3402 under the stock cover on the right side. The left side will remain in place in the stock configuration.

[chuckster131]

joe,to use the stock dog bowl covers i must use a dual set up? can i set it up to leave left side stock and single set up with a k&n filter (E-3402) on rt with the dog bowl cover?

That is exactly correct. The dual plate kit is for using the stock dog bowl as a cover over the entire system, and the left side is left for cosmetics there on.

[tbmmbt]

Hi Joe,

What would your K&N filter cost and the dual plate kit for a 1600? I don't have a Cobra fi2000r or a TFI yet but I am guessing that would be something else I would need to buy when I open up the intake as well as put my Cobra true duals on. You wouldn't happen to have one of those as well would you??? Is there anything that anybody could pass on to me about what I would need to do for the new exhaust install? I haven't started on that as of yet as I need a new back tire and I may go with a car tire or not this time but when I get to the tire I might break down the back end and go through everything and get it all greased up before the tire goes back on. Any info from anyone would be appreciated.

[chuckster131]

Hi Joe,

What would your K&N filter cost and the dual plate kit for a 1600? I don't have a Cobra fi2000r or a TFI yet but I am guessing that would be something else I would need to buy when I open up the intake as well as put my Cobra true duals on. You wouldn't happen to have one of those as well would you??? Is there anything that anybody could pass on to me about what I would need to do for the new exhaust install? I haven't started on that as of yet as I need a new back tire and I may go with a car tire or not this time but when I get to the tire I might break down the back end and go through everything and get it all greased up before the tire goes back on. Any info from anyone would be appreciated.

I have filters here and they are 38.00 so with the dual plate kit you are 116.00 shipped priority mail.
For a TFI I will reccomend the Dobec unit very good for the money and easy install. Part # FI-2050ST
One more thing I will suggest when doing all the mods is to add a set of coasters I make too. http://www.gadgetjq.com/rv_removal.htm This what they do for ya.

[tbmmbt]

Hi Joe,

I guess that is a K&N filter with your dual plate so I would be ready to convert. I have already blocked off with the coasters. They came from the guy I bought the bike from. One more thing though, I bought your light kit for my Nomad and it had one short that I found but I have replaced the fuse a total of 6 times. It seems to blow the fuses and haven't figured out what the problem is. This first blowing of the fuse came from it shorting out in your light itself and I believe I have fixed that. It gets a little aggrevating blowing fuses and I haven't even tried to trace where the blowing of the fuses are coming from now. Haven't had the heart to tackle that one yet. Any ideas?

[chuckster131]

Hi Joe,

I guess that is a K&N filter with your dual plate so I would be ready to convert. I have already blocked off with the coasters. They came from the guy I bought the bike from. One more thing though, I bought your light kit for my Nomad and it had one short that I found but I have replaced the fuse a total of 6 times. It seems to blow the fuses and haven't figured out what the problem is. This first blowing of the fuse came from it shorting out in your light itself and I believe I have fixed that. It gets a little aggrevating blowing fuses and I haven't even tried to trace where the blowing of the fuses are coming from now. Haven't had the heart to tackle that one yet. Any ideas?

Yes that is for the complete kit using the Dual plate system.

Now on to the blowing fuses. Take the seat off and check the hot wire going to the battery making sure it isnt't pinched by the seat or something else. I solder the fuse holder on and heat shrink the connection, make sure that is good there as well. Next take each light out of the housing (1 screwand nut) on each. Where the H3 bulb plugs to the wire there is a protective sleeve that covers the connector. Make sure these are in place and making contact in the light housing, I have seen this befroe first hand on my bike with the old F-S lightbar. You can tape the connections just make it safer and protect them.

Lets start there with those three things.

[1moresin]

got my dual plate system , k-n filter and coaster yesterday nice stuff joe.thanks

[markclark57]

Just (finally) ordered Joe's single plate system. Like the look better. . . Looking forward to the install and test drive.
Hey, Joe. . . Any tips on K&N filters other than listed???
P.S. Max flow over $$$

[chuckster131]

Just (finally) ordered Joe's single plate system. Like the look better. . . Looking forward to the install and test drive.
Hey, Joe. . . Any tips on K&N filters other than listed???
P.S. Max flow over $$$

Shipped it out today so you will see it there by Tuesday. I recommend the K-N as I make the stand off in the middle of the plate to accommodate that kit.

[jasonc32amg]

Just (finally) ordered Joe's single plate system. Like the look better. . . Looking forward to the install and test drive.
Hey, Joe. . . Any tips on K&N filters other than listed???
P.S. Max flow over $$$

I'm just wrapping up the single intake install. It's not bad but I did have a panic moment Joe was able to quickly quell regarding the IACS tubes. My wife bought me a dremel for my bday and that made the job of getting rid of the crossover tube a 5 minute affair. I did the coasters at the same time and it is really cleaning the look of the bike up. I hate all this al gore crap on my bike. I just have to take the wife some dinner at work and pick up some zip ties and I'll be ready for a test run tonight...

[chuckster131]

No problem Jason, glad I could help ya...

Let us know your feedback, when you get back from your test ride.

[macmac]

Taranis, You really know how to kick a guy when 'E's down doncha http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Man i got PMS (parked motorcycle syndrome)

You just leave my La Batt's alone. I been at these since before they were Glacier Bay with a bottle opener on the bottom of each and every bottle and besides i can't get kick ass Brador here.

Sure I have to do a little dreaming, but Hell son, that's still legal, or it was last time I checked.

[taranis]

Kick a guy? Moi? Why I would never.. (that I'd admit to http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif) You're armed anyway, and I have enough holes. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Copy that on the PMS.. ol' man winter hit here too, but all we get is rain. Bleh.. :(

[markclark57]

Hey Joe, Just got in my first ride with the new intake. I had it installed at Lynnwood Cycle Barn. They didn't get the right filter # from K&N so the Tech modified the dog bowl to clear the tank and use the K&N I was running on the left in the new intake. Looks good, but I'll still be in the market for the one you designed it for. Do you offer the right one separately for the single plate kit?

[Cajunrider]

Taranis, You really know how to kick a guy when 'E's down doncha http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Man i got PMS (parked motorcycle syndrome) You just leave my La Batt's alone. I been at these since before they were Glacier Bay with a bottle opener on the bottom of each and every bottle and besides i can't get kick ass Brador here.

Sure I have to do a little dreaming, but Hell son, that's still legal, or it was last time I checked.

Sorry for the hijack but I gotta tell Mac that I'm leaving on the bike right now in a tee shirt and vest. I had to kick ya Mac. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[taranis]

74 here and sunny. Tomorrow is more of the same.

Sorry, mac! But ya know I just gotta!!

http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

[deacon]

I only live twenty or thirty miles from mac. What you guys are doing is WRONG! "sniff"

[minst7877]

Taranis, You really know how to kick a guy when 'E's down doncha http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif Man i got PMS (parked motorcycle syndrome) You just leave my La Batt's alone. I been at these since before they were Glacier Bay with a bottle opener on the bottom of each and every bottle and besides i can't get kick ass Brador here.

Sure I have to do a little dreaming, but Hell son, that's still legal, or it was last time I checked.

Sorry for the hijack but I gotta tell Mac that I'm leaving on the bike right now in a tee shirt and vest. I had to kick ya Mac. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

Man this is just plain mean to those of us with parked bikes.

DC

[billmac]

Rode about 125 miles yesterday, mostly on backroads. Most of the time in a T-shirt and blue jeans. Mid 70's. Rub it in, rub it in. :) Course in August you can't stand it here.

[dcubed1988]

Does anyone have a picture of the left side of the bike if you install the single plate kit (no dog bowl)?

[hammer]

Cool Taranis. Thanks for the report. The kit is on my list along with a TFI. What altitude are you at in Grand Prairie Taranis?

[MAS Tequila]

Does anyone have a picture of the left side of the bike if you install the single plate kit (no dog bowl)?

Take a look

MT

[talon]

Ok, one more question that I think was just answered, but i like redundancy like saving backup files. I like the symmetry that the two bowls gives the bike and I have the "live to ride" aftermarket ones anyway. I want to keep them but i think i want to go with the dual plate setup. I have a K&N filter in the left side now with the Cobra true dual mufflers. I do not have tfi or fuel processor. If I ordered your kit Chuckster, I would want to go ahead and have you supply the K&N filter that goes on the right. What else do I need or do I need anything else? At this point, I haven't worried about installing the coasters, but don't know. Would love the input.

Thanks,
T

[Monkeyman]

With an aftermarket exhaust AND an open intake (single or dual plate is still "open"), you NEED an fuel processor. Even a stock Nomad can get use out of one. These bikes tend to run lean from the factory. The dual plate setup will allow you to keep your dogbowls but the filter will reside in the right side after the mod. You'll need to remove the crossover tube that goes between the cylinders (from the current left side intake to the right side). It's a PITA but not technically difficult to remove it. I have Joes dual plate setup but run it as a single plate with a "V" cover. (The left side is currently bare.) Unless you can source the K&N filters for next to nothing, have Joe supply you with that, too. Beats having to wait on one and/or ending up with the wrong one.

Coasters are also a must. Well, they aren't but they should be. They'll pretty much eliminate the popping you'll get on deceleration with the aftermarket pipes and open intake. As cheap as they are and as easy as the installation is, it would be foolish (in my opinion) to leave these off the shopping list. Literally a 20 minute mod assuming you have to hunt for a wrench like I did.

[chuckster131]

Talon,
My kits come complete with the K-N filter and everything in one box, so on that note nothing else needed. For the Coaster plates, they are a cosmetic option but I do reccomend them just for the fact of cleaning up the look some more.


Ok, I like the symmetry that the two bowls gives the bike and I have the "live to ride" aftermarket ones anyway. I want to keep them but i think i want to go with the dual plate setup. I have a K&N filter in the left side now with the Cobra true dual mufflers. I do not have tfi or fuel processor. If I ordered your kit Chuckster, I would want to go ahead and have you supply the K&N filter that goes on the right. What else do I need or do I need anything else? At this point, I haven't worried about installing the coasters, but don't know. Would love the input.

Thanks,
T

[sacarriker]

I received Joe Norris' Dual-Plate Intake kit a couple of days ago, and today I finally had a chance to get it out onto the open highway for a test. I bought the bike with the Vance & Hines Dual Baggers already installed. Later I added the Dolbeck TFI P&P unit and today was the final piece.

The installation process went pretty smoothly, even for a klutz like me. An hour later, it was ready to go, sans K&N filter, which arrived just today. A quick visit to Gadget's site provided me with some baseline settings for the TFI to compensate for the additional air (2:30, 6:00, 1:00, 9:00), and after making the settings changes, I was off.

The very first thing I noticed was how much more smooth the throttle was. That alone put a "wow" on my lips as I was headed out of the neighborhood. Seriously, I haven't ridden a bike with such linear throttle response since the '92 Shadow I used to own. I love that!

Once I got out to the main road leading to the highway, I couldn't stop myself after I made the turn, and romped on it - hard throttle in 1st, dropped it into 2nd and twisted as far as it would go. The bike just growled in response and took off. The power wasn't snap-me-back-in-the-seat; it was more of a powerful pull that, before the intake, wasn't there. Before I knew it, I was doing 60 in second gear.

Big-Papa-Grin! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

As I began to let off, I remembered that before the intake install, letting off while doing 60+ in a lower gear would result in a few backfires. After the install? Nothing.. just a smooth slowdown. Muuuch better! I was hoping the intake kit would fix that, and it did.

The real test was when I arrived at the pump. Even with the TFI, I've always had to put 93 octane in it to avoid pinging. I stood there for a second, wondering if I should risk a tank of mid-grade. I figured, "what the hell," and filled up on 89, then took it out on the highway.

For the rest of the ride home, about 5 miles, I tried everything I could to get it to ping. Even at 25 mph in 3rd gear, giving it full throttle, I couldn't do it.

Pulling back into the garage, the next thing I noticed was how cool the motor was compared to before the intake was installed. From the "tink, tink, tink"'s that were coming from it, it sounded like I only went around the block, not gave it a good thrashing for six miles.

Overall, I couldn't be more pleased with this setup. My Nomad runs better than ever. The sound coming from the pipes is deeper and full-throated, it runs 89 octane without pinging (YES!), and got a nice increase in power to boot.

Thank You - to the folks all over this board that make stuff like this possible. Trip, Joe Norris, and everyone else that contributes on this board.

Ya'll rock!

Great report, thanks!

[mobandy78]

So, to bring this thread back to life, I think I'm going to order the single plate set-up. I'm pretty excited about it. :)

[Monkeyman]

You'll be even more excited about it once you get it.

[mobandy78]

I'm sure I will be!

[shivanurse]

Talon,
My kits come complete with the K-N filter and everything in one box, so on that note nothing else needed. For the Coaster plates, they are a cosmetic option but I do reccomend them just for the fact of cleaning up the look some more.

Another stupid question. So i'm buying Vand H pipes from another member. He sugested I just plug the hose with something and move the oxygen sensor outside the airbox....thoughts? I don't have the extra cash for anthying else right now.

[shivanurse]

Sorry one last thing. Can I do the pipes and Chucksters dual mod and get away without the fuel proccessor mod for know without doing any damage?

[Monkeyman]

Sorry one last thing. Can I do the pipes and Chucksters dual mod and get away without the fuel proccessor mod for know without doing any damage?

Anything's possible but Nomads run lean from the factory. With an open intake and aftermarket exhaust, you'll run VERY lean without a fuel processor. I wouldn't chance it. If you have to, I'd wait to install the intake until you can afford a fuel processor. You can still run the pipes (stock intake) without one.

[shivanurse]

Gotcha. So what processor and where to get the best price? What about that suggestion of moving the air sensor?

[Monkeyman]

I think Brad (blowndodge) moved his to the fork area and got some good results. Hopefully, he'll chime in on that. I left mine in the intake. I have a V&H Fuel Pak. It's nice but it's difficult to adjust. The general consensus is the Dobeck TFI. It can be had a few places for less than $250.

[mobandy78]

I have a Dobeck TFI and it's a cinch to install and it's cheaper than the other processors. I got mine a couple of months ago for $185 including shipping.

You can either do the intake or the exhaust without adding a processor, but you can not do both. You will starve the engine and cause some damage if you add pipes and air intake without the fuel processor.

[shivanurse]

Thanks Guys. Any suggestions on where to get a good price on the fuel proccessor?

[xlock]

I used powersportsuperstore.com $186.35 shipped with great service...

[mobandy78]

I used powersportsuperstore.com $186.35 shipped with great service...

I think that's where mine came from too.

If you do a Google search and use the shopping results, it will usually give you some prices and where items are available.

Here ya go (hope this works)...
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbm=shop&sclient=psy-ab&q=Dobeck+TFI+2050ST+Kawasaki+Vulcan&oq=Dobeck+TFI+2050ST+Kawasaki+Vulcan&gs_l=serp.3...14735.18373.3.19119.16.16.0.0.0.1.49 5.3143.0j12j3j0j1.16.0...0.0...1c.gmLT2-jfxCM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=368e8236b6736e02&biw=1229&bih=954

[shivanurse]

Thanks Guys you rock. I love this site. Got the Vand H pipes coming. I'll put those on for know and then do the air mods whani can afford the Dobeck unit.

[shivanurse]

Is this the right one: Dobeck Performance TFI Electronic Jet Kit with Wiring Harness * TFI-2050ST

It doesn't list the Vaquero as compatible...??

[mobandy78]

That's the one I'm using on my '05 1600 Nomad. I'm not sure about the Vaquero.

[Monkeyman]

...you rock.

You are SO right about that. :D

[mobandy78]

You are SO right about that. :D

Just don't let him do any mods to your bike for ya. :lmao:

[Monkeyman]

No kidding. :D I got some great ideas. I just don't have the talent to make them work. When I get rich, I'm hiring a full time fabricator. With my ideas and her skillz, I'll be famous!

[hammer]

With my ideas and her skillz, I'll be famous!

Most guys who say that don't want it to get out let alone make them famous!:hmm:

[Monkeyman]

I don't really want to be famous.

[RACNRAY]

talon,
my kits come complete with the k-n filter and everything in one box, so on that note nothing else needed. For the coaster plates, they are a cosmetic option but i do reccomend them just for the fact of cleaning up the look some more.

pm sent

THANX

RACNRAY

[redjay]

RACNRAY.
Are you getting my PM's ?

[RACNRAY]

RACNRAY.
Are you getting my PM's ?

I just now had the time to read your pm and responded, been crazy today,sorry.

RACNRAY