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bartfly

08-28-2007, 03:36 PM

I am a new member, a new Nomad rider(since June), but have riden motorcycles for years. Never had a problem, never reaced, always careful and diligent. That all changed on 7/14/07 when I had to lay my bike down to avoid a car that was turning in front of me. He never looked at me. I kept waiting for him to turn his head, but he never did. The things that flash through your mind!! I am thankful my daighter was not with me, she rides with me often.

I broke my tibia and fibula on my left leg. Now I am getting all kinds of opinions: SELL the bike, YOU are nuts to ride again, etc. I am looking forward to riding again, but I am sure I will be a little scared. I am adding a light bad and modulator. Any thoughts??

I have hired a lawyer and have begun that process. The driver of the car was ticketed. WHY CAN"T THEY SEE US!!!!

bartfly

08-28-2007, 03:39 PM

Welcome bartly. Sorry to hear about your mishap. That's part of the risk of riding a bike. Knowing you are not seen and have a great chance of getting run over. Take it all in and give it time before you decide one way or the other on riding. If you're inclined to do so, I would say the sooner you can get back on the better. Just my .02 worth.

bartfly

08-28-2007, 03:53 PM

Thanks Kawgirl. I am still using a walker and won't be "ride ready" for another month at least. Bike is being repaired. I don't know how I will fell when I get on it again. Time will tell. I lost my wife to cancer two years ago(she was 44), and many people think I may make my daughter an orphan. Tough call...

bartfly

blowndodge

08-28-2007, 04:58 PM

Be careful in the litigation process. If it was truely an accident, is suing going to help? If my medical bills were paid and lost wages and bike repaired or replaced with a truely sorry driver I'd be more inclined to forgive that get even. I do know how P*ssed off you must be! We all have had drivers pinch us off the road or something!

bluetongue

08-28-2007, 05:41 PM

Bartfly, I had a head on with a car the day before I was getting married dislocated knee and some road rash. I will tell you I was a little scared the first time I rode another bike which was only a week later. I thought every car was pulling out in front of me. That feeling went away after only a short time but now I am very careful about watching out for cars. Take your time heal up and then decide if you are going to ride again or not. Just my .02 worth.

08-28-2007, 05:53 PM

Welcome and i hope you heal fast. The folks that say your nuts to get back on and ride. My question to them is if they had a accident in car would you still drive a car????? sure they woudl and so would you so no difference if you ask me. Get back up on your horse and carry on my two wheel brother.... LOL :-)

Top Cat

08-28-2007, 07:38 PM

"I had to lay my bike down to avoid a car that was turning in front of me. "

I don't understand this statement. I'm not being a wise ass but if you lay the bike down it would seem to me it would slide farther than if you just hit the brakes and keep the rubber on the road.
How did laying it down help you avoid the car? Just curious.

Heater_Guy

08-28-2007, 08:07 PM

I am adding a light bad and modulator. Any thoughts??

bartfly

Even with a brake flasher and headlight modulator you have to pretend you're invisible. It's hard to tell what people are thinking about or not thinking about when they drive. (even when they're not talking on the cell phone or writing a text message.)

ponch

08-28-2007, 08:29 PM

Anytime you lose control of a bike, that is a bad thing. I also hate hearing, I laid the bike down". Nonsense. Now, you can say I lost control of the bike because I braked too hard the bike slid. Ok, that I understand. If you truly "laid" it down, that is nuts.

"I had to lay my bike down to avoid a car that was turning in front of me. "

I don't understand this statement. I'm not being a wise ass but if you lay the bike down it would seem to me it would slide farther than if you just hit the brakes and keep the rubber on the road.
How did laying it down help you avoid the car? Just curious.

ponch

08-28-2007, 08:31 PM

Oh yeah, to answer your question, probably not. Take an ERC first.

socwkbiker

08-28-2007, 08:33 PM

Bartfly, first off welcome from one of your GODS. You may rise. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

All seriousness aside, the main thing to think about is that you are alive, regaining your health and your daughter wasn't with you. Don't live in the "what ifs", otherwise you will drive yourself crazy.

VC made the most astute comment though, if you had a wreck in a car, you would still drive. I know it's scary, but you get up, dust yourself off and confront your fears, otherwise they will control you.

davidjones1

08-28-2007, 08:36 PM

Bartfly, sorry to here about your accident. But the saying is true: its not if your going down but when your going down. it happens and sounds as if you did a great job of saving your a## I have been down twice {in 25years}too the cages whom all say "I did not see you", both times by the grace of god my wife was not with me, it has made me a much better rider [in my eyes] and have had the same statements made to me [your nuts-you have lost your mind etc..] I was on my bike with in a month both times. lesson to learn from it "never ever trust the cage driver".I hope you still ride. my 2.5 cents worth. heal fast -ride safe.

08-28-2007, 08:37 PM

I "laid a bike down" 20+ yrs ago.

Translation: "I pannicked thinking I could not swerve to avoid an accident and I lost control & fell"

Either way...... you went down. Heal up and get back on that bike and ride!

Get spotlights, use you horn, louder pipes, orange vest, anything that makes you more visible.........

AND RIDE AS IF EVERY CAR OUT THERE IS INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO HIT YOU!

You'll be fine.... Ride on!

Nico

p.s. I just went down Saturday.... I can't wait to ride again!

finky

08-28-2007, 09:17 PM

Ditto mate get straight back on one, I have been down twice in 20 years and still love riding
and make youself seen and heard loud pipes save lives.

ponch

08-28-2007, 10:19 PM

This is #1.

I "laid a bike down" 20+ yrs ago.

AND RIDE AS IF EVERY CAR OUT THERE IS INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO HIT YOU!

Nico

p.s. I just went down Saturday.... I can't wait to ride again!

ponch

08-28-2007, 10:25 PM

On another forum, there was a rider who went off the pavement into high grass and hit a stump, and broke his wrist. He rewarded himself be getting a Victory Vegas. Now, mind you, he did this to avoid taking a curve that had some gravel on the road. My comments went over so well they almost kicked me off, and they were no worse than here. I stand by what I said, if you purposely lay a bike down, you are no longer in control, especially if it weighs 820 lbs.

I "laid a bike down" 20+ yrs ago.

Translation: "I pannicked thinking I could not swerve to avoid an accident and I lost control & fell"

Either way...... you went down. Heal up and get back on that bike and ride!

Get spotlights, use you horn, louder pipes, orange vest, anything that makes you more visible.........

AND RIDE AS IF EVERY CAR OUT THERE IS INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO HIT YOU!

You'll be fine.... Ride on!

Nico

p.s. I just went down Saturday.... I can't wait to ride again!

ponch

08-28-2007, 10:26 PM

So how are you feeling? I think I will send a healing smite. :)

I "laid a bike down" 20+ yrs ago.

Translation: "I pannicked thinking I could not swerve to avoid an accident and I lost control & fell"

Either way...... you went down. Heal up and get back on that bike and ride!

Get spotlights, use you horn, louder pipes, orange vest, anything that makes you more visible.........

AND RIDE AS IF EVERY CAR OUT THERE IS INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO HIT YOU!

You'll be fine.... Ride on!

Nico

p.s. I just went down Saturday.... I can't wait to ride again!

08-28-2007, 11:34 PM

For me, except to move, breathe deeply, laugh, or cough..... I'm fine! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
Same applies for Sue, but just magnified 10 fold. :-/

Could be much worse.... could not be feeling anything! http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

The offer of a smite means a lot to me, coming from you Ponch! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

In the market for a Red(purple)/Red L saddle bag!!!! :)

:-*
Nico

08-28-2007, 11:39 PM

It took me almost 10 years to even have the desire after I wrecked. I have noticed more and more motorcyclists wearing bright neon green and I can't help but notice them. Lots of people don't die on motorcycles and lots of people die in their cars when they get hit by drunks. I guess when its your time its your time. I avoid riding at night after almost getting hit one night and after hiting road debris I couldn't see and after riding through a herd of deer. Heck, cagers have a hard enough time seeing us in broad daylight!

08-29-2007, 12:05 AM

In my case it was 90+% rider error........

Too fast entry speed 20%

Bad line 15%

Over correction 20%

Hitting brake (no doubt) 25%

Too narrow of tires 10%

Sand 10%

All on a steep downhill tight turn on a road I'd never been on before!

Does that equal 100% ?

08-29-2007, 12:14 AM

So what size tires did you have?

08-29-2007, 12:16 AM

MT90-16 Front (130/90/16)

140/90/16 Rear

Each an inch narrower than stock...... handled better......... up untill then~

Scoot

08-29-2007, 12:16 AM

vulcanvixen

08-29-2007, 01:27 AM

Get right back on the horse, I say!!! I've gone down twice ... once just after I got my license and just this past Saturday. You may be a little shakey when you do, but by doing it you take control rather than letting fear control you. Wishing you a speedy recovery.........

socwkbiker

08-29-2007, 08:48 AM

Ponch, we wouldn't kick you off. We would just make you smell Nico's belly button sweat, clean Trip's dirty bike, look at BD (major punishment), and hand wash my nasty, sweaty do-rags. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

flightdoc

08-29-2007, 08:55 AM

Hi Bartfly,
Welcome to Nomad world! I hope your leg and pride heal fast. I know from experience how difficult it is to go down on your bike and then get back on without feeling skiddish.If you do decide to get back on you will feel uncomfortable and you will never forget what happened. That's a good thing but don't let it rule your riding. That could be disastrous. I have a couple of suggestions for you ( my 2 cents). Like ponch I would heavily suggest taking the MFS riding course. If you've never taken the basic class , take it. Then take the ERC. It will help build your confidence up again and make you a much better rider. By the way the ERC is taken on your own machine.
When you do start riding again, don't jump right into heavy traffic. Ride at off-peak hours for awhile.
As others have said...assume NOBODY see's you.

Stay healty

vin

bartfly

08-29-2007, 09:35 AM

To all my fellow Nomad riders. Thanks for the words of encouragement. And for those of you questioning my "laying the bike down, I didn't intentionally lay the bike down. I locked up the brakes because I had no room to swerve around him. In locking up the brakes I lost control and ended up rolling on the pavement. I almost always wear a helmet, but since I was only going less then a mile, I said why bother, it was a beautiful day. I do remember hitting the pavement with my head. I will never again go without a helmet even if it is around the block.

I was actually looking into rider courses.

Nico: I heard and read about you going down on Saturday. I hope all of you are doing OK.

08-29-2007, 09:40 AM

Ponch is a fixture here..... we ain't lettin' him go nowhere!

Thanks Bartfly...... we're mending!~

SWB.. keep up the smiteful work bro...

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blowndodge

08-29-2007, 10:09 AM

08-29-2007, 10:22 AM

"Your just jealous I'm so handsome!"

I think I may have just thrown up alittle in my mouth http://s2.images.proboards.com/lipsrsealed.gif after reading this http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif

08-29-2007, 10:26 AM

bartfly, I think ANYTHING you can do to call attention to yourself will riding you should. I have the headlight modulator and I can't count the times on both hands that I have seen cages look like there going to pull out in front of me and them slam on breaks. LOL what's cool is when I'm out riding and some peeps will just pull off the rode so I can go by. But the main thing is get back on and ride again.

Brad

Sorry trying not to samck this thread... Brad which headlight modulator do you have?????????????????? I would like to get the kisan headlighmod bulb which only requires you if i'm not wrong on this isto switch out the head light bulb with the new kisan one? Let me know

blowndodge

08-29-2007, 12:11 PM

socwkbiker

08-29-2007, 12:35 PM

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ponch

08-29-2007, 07:38 PM

I don't think I could handle looking at BD.

Ponch, we wouldn't kick you off. We would just make you smell Nico's belly button sweat, clean Trip's dirty bike, look at BD (major punishment), and hand wash my nasty, sweaty do-rags. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

ponch

08-29-2007, 07:50 PM

Man, that ruined my dinner...

Ponch is a fixture here..... we ain't lettin' him go nowhere!

Thanks Bartfly...... we're mending!~

SWB.. keep up the smiteful work bro...

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Scoot

09-01-2007, 06:55 PM

Brad which headlight modulator do you have?????????????????? I would like to get the kisan headlighmod bulb which only requires you if i'm not wrong on this isto switch out the head light bulb with the new kisan one? Let me know

VulcanCouple.....I have (Signal Dynamics Headlight Module w/ remote switch) it has a sensor for at night the like won't blink BUT it all so hooks to your horn so if at night you hit the horn it will flash about 5 time

ringadingh

09-01-2007, 08:36 PM

You could die in your sleep, choke on dinner, get hit by lightning or a million other things Could happen. Then again if you enjoy riding get back on, you may live to be 100, why sit in a easy chair thinking if Id only followed my heart I would a have a lot of great memories instead of bored to tears safe and sound. Personally I would take the chance on doing what I love over trying to live long enough to go back to eating baby food and wearing diapers again.

09-02-2007, 12:18 PM

Ding....

It's probably in a post somewhere that I missed, but tell me about your passenger seat setup... I like it!

Nico

blowndodge

09-02-2007, 12:25 PM

09-02-2007, 12:29 PM

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blowndodge

09-02-2007, 01:50 PM

I thought it was!! baby food eatin' diaper wearing little buddy!!!

09-02-2007, 01:52 PM

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blowndodge

09-02-2007, 01:57 PM

ROFLMFAO!!! Be careful on that thing! I'm sure you could find some sand!!

ringadingh

09-02-2007, 02:07 PM

Nico: The drivers backrest is from cruiser customizing, the seats are stock, the HD beerbox is mounted on a Wompus rack, the passenger backrest is a stock HD pad, Anyone that sits on the back says its a pretty comfy ride. I lucked out when I bought the bike used just as you see it, which is what I would have built it to be had I bought a new one.

blowndodge

09-02-2007, 02:26 PM

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09-02-2007, 02:31 PM

LOLOLOOL

I gotta double up the pain pills now.... please...... Owwwwie..

09-03-2007, 02:04 AM

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God will get you for this!!!

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09-03-2007, 06:43 AM

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Clean-up on aisle 3!!!!

dan

09-03-2007, 07:33 AM

OHHHHH MYYY GOOODDDDDD, It is so early in the morning and I am rolling on this floor in pain. My wife came out of the bedroom and asked why I was laughing so loud and waking her up. I showed her both pictures, the one by Nico, and the one by BD. She is now on the floor laughing. You'll have to excuse me for a while, I think I will take advantage of this action. Haven't seen her move like this in 20 years. THANKS NICO, THANKS BD.......

09-03-2007, 10:04 AM

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Todd

09-03-2007, 01:10 PM

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09-03-2007, 01:16 PM

<marquee>LOLOL ...... I LOVE IT!!</marquee>

blowndodge

09-03-2007, 01:23 PM

Hope it went well Dan!!! We are here for YOU!!!!!!!

09-03-2007, 01:28 PM

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socwkbiker

09-03-2007, 02:52 PM

It least someone's getting some! BD and Nico sure aren't! http://s2.images.proboards.com/shocked.gif

vulcanvixen

09-03-2007, 03:54 PM

Priceless!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!

09-03-2007, 03:55 PM

Priceless!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!

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vulcanvixen

09-03-2007, 04:21 PM

<marquee> Hey!! That's a good idea Todd has!! ::P http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/tongue.gif</marquee>

Todd

09-03-2007, 04:23 PM

Dont make me separate you 2!!

09-04-2007, 12:59 AM

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I'm still laughing...

socwkbiker

09-04-2007, 08:41 AM

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041201/dl2.jpg

Nico & BD

Dont make me separate you 2!!

09-04-2007, 09:08 AM

BD is the uglier one.

blowndodge

09-04-2007, 10:45 AM

Cant argue there! you are much cuter!!!!

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Todd

09-04-2007, 02:27 PM

<marquee>ROFLMAO!!!!!!</marquee>

scion0

09-04-2007, 02:29 PM

That is nice... I have Photoshop...maybe I need to get busy and figure out how to do that cool stuff.

blowndodge

09-04-2007, 02:38 PM

Photoshop? What's that?

Todd

09-04-2007, 02:43 PM

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ponch

09-04-2007, 03:53 PM

Yeah, but it's probably on a PC.

Photoshop? What's that?

09-04-2007, 07:46 PM

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<marquee>THANKS FOR THE LITTLE HEAD BD!!!!</marquee>