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jimr
07-26-2010, 11:19 AM
Did a search 4 times and came up empty ??? Does the Mustang seat change your seating position ? Better seat than a Mustang ?

recumbentbob
07-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Mustang seat moves you forward some.

waterman
07-26-2010, 12:11 PM
There are several: Corbin, Russell Day Long and some others. Some have sent their seats to a couple of different custom people to have them re-worked.

jimr
07-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Thanks. Does the Mustang sit lower as well as slightly forward ?

redjay
07-26-2010, 03:37 PM
Not usually

Scoot
07-27-2010, 01:39 AM
Mustang seat moves you forward some.

Sorry for this: But how can you say that? Cause on my 02 Nomad it feels like it lowers the seat height not moving me forward at all.

This is one of the reasons everyone needs to have on their page somewhere what YEAR there bike is.

Now you could have said on my 06,07,08 which ever you have it feels like it moves you forward some.

Just like jimr doesn't say what years he's looking for, but if it was on sig. we'd all know.

Sorry don't mean to piss anyone off. working midnights shift this week, and wife tells me it's MY time of the month.

ballast
07-27-2010, 02:14 AM
http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gifOn my '05 the mustang definitely moved me forward. LOVE the Russell Day Long!

Scoot
07-27-2010, 05:49 AM
http://s2.images.proboards.com/cool.gifOn my '05 the mustang definitely moved me forward. LOVE the Russell Day Long!


LOL you da man !!! http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif

redjay
07-27-2010, 06:00 AM
On my 97 Virago the Mustang seat definitely moved me forward. Felt like I was sitting on the tank. Daylong seat on the Nomad.

jimr
07-27-2010, 06:26 AM
Sorry guys, it's a 2008.

mep
07-27-2010, 06:39 AM
jimr, I have an '08 with the Mustang seat and backrest. Taking backrest adjustments out of the equation (as far as fore and aft positioning is concerned), I have not noticed any significant difference in how the Mustang seat positions me on the bike.

Netnorske
07-27-2010, 08:12 AM
Seats are a very subjective thing...and and there are a lot of options. The one that works best is the one that fits YOU the best. I have an '08 with the Mustang w/backrest. It is better than stock for sure, but by no means perfect (for me). I still have to wiggle around a bit from time to time. The more you ride with it the more comfy it will become as it breaks in.

The Russell Day-Long seat is custom fit to you and provides a great platform for your butt....but is an expensive route to go. You can see in Ballast's photo how the seat is more like and old tractor seat with lots of support...."Ass Nirvana" as he calls it.

Bottom line is you have to find something that fits your ass and your budget equally...and that can be a challenge in this economy.... :-/.

trosco
07-27-2010, 09:57 AM
After 3 years and 36,000 miles I still have the OEM seat. I use a sheepskin and that seems to do it for me.

I've considered after market seats but as others have said it is not the brand or style it is what fits your unique A-- that decides what you need. And my A-- continues to change. I just can't bring myself to spend $400 - $1,000 on something that a 99 cent cheezburger can make obsolete :-[

lw
07-27-2010, 10:41 AM
Mustang definitely moved me forward on my 07.

ponch
07-27-2010, 07:10 PM
I have a 2007 and the mustang moved me forward for sure. Seats are a very subjective thing and it can change due to circumstances. When I got the mustang it was better than the stock seat, but not a lot. So I could ride 2 hours instead of one without starting to squirm. Since I have lost weight the mustang is as bad or worse than the stock. After a half hour I start moving around. My choices are get a Russell or sell the bike and get something else. Right now I am on the fence. Because of the discomfort I really don't like to go riding much anymore. It's that bad. The problem with something else is, can I test ride it long enough to find out it's not right? I really don't like spending money on something if it's not decent enough out of the box. I'd rather get it right the first time. Live and learn.

wiz
07-28-2010, 09:20 AM
I like my Mustang seat, but a Daylong may be in the cards next year. Losing a few pounds is also in the plan.

poppy
07-28-2010, 10:03 AM
On my '04, the Mustang seat only lowered my sitting stance slightly, no forward progress. My suggestion is to attend a meet/greet or rally prior to dropping any $$$ on a seat. Find a similar year/model with different seats and ASK if you can sit on the bike to try and gauge for yourself if you like it or not. Apparently, on the 1600 models it moves you forward, based on the responses so far.

I also agree that there should be a required spot to place your year/model OR create a seperate folder for different years. I followed Mac's suggestion to put my year/model in my location spot but most folks don't.

poppy
07-28-2010, 10:15 AM
I have a 2007 and the mustang moved me forward for sure. Seats are a very subjective thing and it can change due to circumstances. When I got the mustang it was better than the stock seat, but not a lot. So I could ride 2 hours instead of one without starting to squirm. Since I have lost weight the mustang is as bad or worse than the stock. After a half hour I start moving around. My choices are get a Russell or sell the bike and get something else. Right now I am on the fence. Because of the discomfort I really don't like to go riding much anymore. It's that bad. The problem with something else is, can I test ride it long enough to find out it's not right? I really don't like spending money on something if it's not decent enough out of the box. I'd rather get it right the first time. Live and learn.

Perhaps purchasing a pair of padded bicycle riding shorts will help....worth a try. Personally, I am ready to stop and stretch, hydrate, etc. after 1.5-2 hours riding. I've ridden and owned numerous bikes and for me it doesn't matter what I'm riding, I'm ready to stop. Even in the cage I start getting fidgety after a period of time.....

ponch
07-28-2010, 10:38 AM
Stopping after an hour and half is BS, at least to me. I'd like to get 3 hours at a stretch for sure, and this is especially true on the super slab. Even so, it's cumulative. I know I can't take much more than 10 actual hours in the saddle a day. Doesn't matter if I am going under 50mph on twisties or 75+ on the super slab. When I am done I am done, at least with my current setup. Having to wear bicycle shorts is not something I would not want to do. What if I forget them or for whatever reason I can't use them halfway through a trip? I've gotten to the point in my life I am tired of compromises and work arounds to situations that should be right at the get go. I guess my expectations have risen and like Rosco, being the cheap f, I don't like having to customize something I've already spent thousands on. If I did, I would have bought a harley.



I have a 2007 and the mustang moved me forward for sure. Seats are a very subjective thing and it can change due to circumstances. When I got the mustang it was better than the stock seat, but not a lot. So I could ride 2 hours instead of one without starting to squirm. Since I have lost weight the mustang is as bad or worse than the stock. After a half hour I start moving around. My choices are get a Russell or sell the bike and get something else. Right now I am on the fence. Because of the discomfort I really don't like to go riding much anymore. It's that bad. The problem with something else is, can I test ride it long enough to find out it's not right? I really don't like spending money on something if it's not decent enough out of the box. I'd rather get it right the first time. Live and learn.

Perhaps purchasing a pair of padded bicycle riding shorts will help....worth a try. Personally, I am ready to stop and stretch, hydrate, etc. after 1.5-2 hours riding. I've ridden and owned numerous bikes and for me it doesn't matter what I'm riding, I'm ready to stop. Even in the cage I start getting fidgety after a period of time.....

poppy
07-28-2010, 11:08 AM
Stopping after an hour and half is BS, at least to me. I'd like to get 3 hours at a stretch for sure, and this is especially true on the super slab. Even so, it's cumulative. I know I can't take much more than 10 actual hours in the saddle a day. Doesn't matter if I am going under 50mph on twisties or 75+ on the super slab. When I am done I am done, at least with my current setup. Having to wear bicycle shorts is not something I would not want to do. What if I forget them or for whatever reason I can't use them halfway through a trip? I've gotten to the point in my life I am tired of compromises and work arounds to situations that should be right at the get go. I guess my expectations have risen and like Rosco, being the cheap f, I don't like having to customize something I've already spent thousands on. If I did, I would have bought a harley.




Perhaps purchasing a pair of padded bicycle riding shorts will help....worth a try. Personally, I am ready to stop and stretch, hydrate, etc. after 1.5-2 hours riding. I've ridden and owned numerous bikes and for me it doesn't matter what I'm riding, I'm ready to stop. Even in the cage I start getting fidgety after a period of time.....

Well thanks for your words of wit. I was only offering a suggestion, not BS. If you think stopping when you start feeling fatigue is BS, then so be it. Oh, and don't take any suggestions that may actually improve your comfort level.

ponch
07-28-2010, 11:21 AM
It wasn't meant as that. Just that if I am "fatigued" after and hour and a half on my mustang, but 3 hours on another seat, what is the true assessment of fatigue? The real issue is not that I am fatigued after an hour and half, 3 hours or a half hour, it's that my ass hurts to the point that it's uncomfortable to ride. For me, fatigue takes place at about 10 hours. Having to stop 7 times in that period as opposed to three makes a big difference to me. Sorry for the confusion, but I meant no slight to you at all. It's just frustrating that in the course of losing weight (93 lbs so far), the ride has gotten worse to point I just don't dig it. To that effect I plan on checking out a few different bikes to see if something better is possible.



Stopping after an hour and half is BS, at least to me. I'd like to get 3 hours at a stretch for sure, and this is especially true on the super slab. Even so, it's cumulative. I know I can't take much more than 10 actual hours in the saddle a day. Doesn't matter if I am going under 50mph on twisties or 75+ on the super slab. When I am done I am done, at least with my current setup. Having to wear bicycle shorts is not something I would not want to do. What if I forget them or for whatever reason I can't use them halfway through a trip? I've gotten to the point in my life I am tired of compromises and work arounds to situations that should be right at the get go. I guess my expectations have risen and like Rosco, being the cheap f, I don't like having to customize something I've already spent thousands on. If I did, I would have bought a harley.



Well thanks for your words of wit. I was only offering a suggestion, not BS. If you think stopping when you start feeling fatigue is BS, then so be it. Oh, and don't take any suggestions that may actually improve your comfort level.

poppy
07-28-2010, 11:42 AM
ok, understood. Congratulations on the weight loss, well hopefully its on purpose or for a purpose. I checked your blog....keep up the effort, it will pay off. ;)

ponch
07-28-2010, 12:07 PM
I was 409 lbs and now 314lbs. So I guess it's a bit more. Even at 6'5, its too much weight. My goal is 240-250.


ok, understood. Congratulations on the weight loss, well hopefully its on purpose or for a purpose. I checked your blog....keep up the effort, it will pay off. ;)

donoller
07-30-2010, 03:22 PM
I HAVE A WING AND A NOMAD AND THE NOMAD SITS BEST BY FAR I JUST HAVE TO STOP MORE OFTEN ON IT . I HAVE THE MUSTANG TOUR SEAT WITH BACK REST . MIGHT TRY ANOTHER SEAT ., FIND ONE THAT FITS YOU.

ponch
07-30-2010, 03:34 PM
A friend of mine is selling his BMW and is willing to deliver it, so I am going to sell mine. While he's a little smaller than me, his bike already has a Russell on it. I will probably go for it and make a couple thousand at best. I'll ride the beemer and see if I like German.


I HAVE A WING AND A NOMAD AND THE NOMAD SITS BEST BY FAR I JUST HAVE TO STOP MORE OFTEN ON IT . I HAVE THE MUSTANG TOUR SEAT WITH BACK REST . MIGHT TRY ANOTHER SEAT ., FIND ONE THAT FITS YOU.

cactusjack
07-30-2010, 04:06 PM
I start out the day and ride tank to tank for the first couple of fill ups. As fatigue/pain sets in, I will break more frequently, maybe every 60-90 minutes. I find it's my back that bothers me more than my butt, at lease lately.

I agree with Ponch, for what we pay for these, they should be more comfortable from the factory. You don't buy a new car and then have to replace the seats in order to be able to drive from Salt Lake to Denver.

My stock seat was so uncomfortable, I'd be totally miserable after about 90 miles. The first extended ride I took on my Nomad was with my buddy who has a Goldwing. We rode to Prescott and back (about 250 miles r/t) as we were coming back into Phoenix, we hit construction on I-17 (wow, like that never happens) and got stuck in crawling traffic for a few miles. I remember wishing traffic would just stop so I could stand up for a few minutes. When I got home, I ordered a Mustang seat.

redjay
07-30-2010, 07:35 PM
I did 800 kms on my Russell seat today, no issues.

ponch
07-30-2010, 07:37 PM
At this point I am not going to bother spending 700-1000 for a seat for the nomad, but the Russell is supposed to be as good as it gets. I guess that seat pan worked out then? :)


I did 800 kms on my Russell seat today, no issues.

yoda
07-30-2010, 07:39 PM
I thought the stock seat was fine at first, but then found that after about 2 hours of riding I was constantly trying to find a better position. Got the Mustang and it feels great. I have done several weekenders and at least one weeklong trip, where we rode for 7-8 hours with absolutely no issues. I always take a break at 1-1/2-2 1/2 hours though. Not because really I need to give my butt a break, but I need gas, food, restrooms, sightsee, and to keep the circulation in my legs good. In short, taking shorter breaks more often puts off the fatigue that comes with constantly pushing to the edge of the endurance. I take breaks in the car if I am going all day, why wouldn't I do it on the bike? And quite frankly, running the slab at 75 constantly puts the tank at the need to fillup every two hours anyway...

ponch
07-30-2010, 07:41 PM
As I said, the mustang doesn't work for me. And I will say even with stops, the ass pain starts again. C'est la vie.


I thought the stock seat was fine at first, but then found that after about 2 hours of riding I was constantly trying to find a better position. Got the Mustang and it feels great. I have done several weekenders and at least one weeklong trip, where we rode for 7-8 hours with absolutely no issues. I always take a break at 1-1/2-2 1/2 hours though. Not because really I need to give my butt a break, but I need gas, food, restrooms, sightsee, and to keep the circulation in my legs good. In short, taking shorter breaks more often puts off the fatigue that comes with constantly pushing to the edge of the endurance. I take breaks in the car if I am going all day, why wouldn't I do it on the bike? And quite frankly, running the slab at 75 constantly puts the tank at the need to fillup every two hours anyway...

bokobob
07-31-2010, 05:52 AM
My 07 nomad has a mustang seat with the built-in rider backrest....I find it a good bit more comfortable than the stock seat with Fire adn Ice backrest was....It does move me forward a bit, but not as much as the stock seat did.....

You may want to consider what they have to offer at www.meancitycycles.com (http://www.meancitycycles.com) .
Their prices are reasonable adn on balance they get reasonably good reviews. Now and then someone will say they did not notice much difference..

When it comes to seats, it seems that one has to think with his/her a** .

ponch
07-31-2010, 06:46 AM
I talked with the guy from mean city cycles and he said there isn't much he can do with the mustang seat do to the pan shape. As far as the stock seat goes, the mustang moved me up a couple inches in comparison. The one seat no one has mentioned at all is Corbin.


My 07 nomad has a mustang seat with the built-in rider backrest....I find it a good bit more comfortable than the stock seat with Fire adn Ice backrest was....It does move me forward a bit, but not as much as the stock seat did.....

You may want to consider what they have to offer at www.meancitycycles.com (http://www.meancitycycles.com) .
Their prices are reasonable adn on balance they get reasonably good reviews. Now and then someone will say they did not notice much difference..

When it comes to seats, it seems that one has to think with his/her a** .

Cajunrider
07-31-2010, 07:46 AM
I went from the stock seat to a Russell. Made a huge difference for myself and my wife. Had the stock seats modified by MC Cycles. It helped but not enough. We still had to stop every 100 miles for a break. With the Russel seats, we go from full to near empty fuel stops and have done over 630 mile days twice. Tired at the end but no butt pain.

poppy
07-31-2010, 08:36 AM
Good points and I agree.......



I thought the stock seat was fine at first, but then found that after about 2 hours of riding I was constantly trying to find a better position. Got the Mustang and it feels great. I have done several weekenders and at least one weeklong trip, where we rode for 7-8 hours with absolutely no issues. I always take a break at 1-1/2-2 1/2 hours though. Not because really I need to give my butt a break, but I need gas, food, restrooms, sightsee, and to keep the circulation in my legs good. In short, taking shorter breaks more often puts off the fatigue that comes with constantly pushing to the edge of the endurance. I take breaks in the car if I am going all day, why wouldn't I do it on the bike? And quite frankly, running the slab at 75 constantly puts the tank at the need to fillup every two hours anyway...