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csduncansnomad
07-23-2010, 03:12 PM
Is there a secert how to get the rim back on the axle where all the teeth are at? Killing myself trying
cactusjack
07-23-2010, 03:19 PM
Is there a secert how to get the rim back on the axle where all the teeth are at? Killing myself trying
I assume you mean sliding the splined hub into the splined drive assembly?
Yep, that's a real pain in the you know what. Here's how I do it:
I adjust the height of the bike jack to where the tire would barely be off the ground if it were installed in the bike. I lift the wheel/tire assembly and slide the axle in just far enough to clear the left side wheel bearing. From there, it's pretty easy to get the hub on the drive splines. I find it's nearly impossible to do if you slide too much axle in.
It definitely is easier with a second set of hands.
csduncansnomad
07-23-2010, 03:25 PM
Tks gonna give that a try. Its just to hot in PA blood pressure is boiling out in the shed busting my hump lol
blowndodge
07-23-2010, 03:25 PM
Yes it is a super Biotch to do!
markpenn1
07-23-2010, 04:01 PM
what catujack said; but also at the same time try this. Looking from rear forward; on the right side slide in a round object; like pvc pipe; pipe; broom handle; punch; etc; to come as close as you can to the inner diameter of bearings; wheel; spacers. Make sure it is clean! Now slide your home made tool right to left while at the same time picking up tire from bottom with pry bar/or until tool touches axle end you previously put in to bearing. This kind of aligns all the stuff up. Then you wiggle the tire/wheel on the splines. Make sure trans in gear so the final doesn't spin with you not letting the two splines mesh together. Now once they mesh and holding your mouth just right, push on the axle from the left to right putting just a little tension on your home made tool from the right and keep sliding the axle all the way through. Also during this it may be necessary to stop with the tension and trying pry up on wheel to help with sliding in the axle from the left. Sounds complicated while reading this, but once you actually try it you will get what I mean; I hope this might help a little in-conjunction with catusjack instructions.
Sin City Stan
07-23-2010, 04:34 PM
what catujack said; but also at the same time try this. Looking from rear forward; on the right side slide in a round object; like pvc pipe; pipe; broom handle; punch; etc; to come as close as you can to the inner diameter of bearings; wheel; spacers. Make sure it is clean! Now slide your home made tool right to left while at the same time picking up tire from bottom with pry bar/or until tool touches axle end you previously put in to bearing. This kind of aligns all the stuff up. Then you wiggle the tire/wheel on the splines. Make sure trans in gear so the final doesn't spin with you not letting the two splines mesh together. Now once they mesh and holding your mouth just right, push on the axle from the left to right putting just a little tension on your home made tool from the right and keep sliding the axle all the way through. Also during this it may be necessary to stop with the tension and trying pry up on wheel to help with sliding in the axle from the left. Sounds complicated while reading this, but once you actually try it you will get what I mean; I hope this might help a little in-conjunction with catusjack instructions.
And you guys go on and on about how bad a belt drive is. This sounds like nothing short of a surgical procedure. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
cactusjack
07-23-2010, 05:14 PM
what catujack said; but also at the same time try this. Looking from rear forward; on the right side slide in a round object; like pvc pipe; pipe; broom handle; punch; etc; to come as close as you can to the inner diameter of bearings; wheel; spacers. Make sure it is clean! Now slide your home made tool right to left while at the same time picking up tire from bottom with pry bar/or until tool touches axle end you previously put in to bearing. This kind of aligns all the stuff up. Then you wiggle the tire/wheel on the splines. Make sure trans in gear so the final doesn't spin with you not letting the two splines mesh together. Now once they mesh and holding your mouth just right, push on the axle from the left to right putting just a little tension on your home made tool from the right and keep sliding the axle all the way through. Also during this it may be necessary to stop with the tension and trying pry up on wheel to help with sliding in the axle from the left. Sounds complicated while reading this, but once you actually try it you will get what I mean; I hope this might help a little in-conjunction with catusjack instructions.
And you guys go on and on about how bad a belt drive is. This sounds like nothing short of a surgical procedure. http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
It's not so bad once you've done it.
csduncansnomad
07-23-2010, 05:19 PM
Yea went right on I had the axle almost all the way through once I pulled it out some went easy. Tks all for advice thats why I love this sight always someone with some no how lol.
ringadingh
07-23-2010, 06:19 PM
I just lift the wheel and put it on the splines, then I put the axle in. Most times its up and on in a few seconds for me.
macmac
07-23-2010, 07:02 PM
I use another method, similar but different. With the bike on the lift so high as you can roll the tires in, I first place the axel thru the final drive, and install the spacer. I check one last time that the splines are well greased with moly lube on the wheel and the finale drive, a smear goes on the axel and sp[acer before they are installed, and then I sit on the floor rolling the tire in and under the bike.
OH YEAH the tranny needs to be in 1st gear before you sit. With my legs and knees I raise the tire and wheel, and it clicks right on with almost no fuss. When that happens i reach around and feel for the axle, and pust till it comes out anout 3/8th inch / 10 mm, then install the other spacer.
I go back to the left side again and push the axle in just past flush to hang the brake bracket, and once it is I just shove the axel the rest of the way in.
I can do it faster than I can type it.
csduncansnomad
07-23-2010, 08:34 PM
It didnt look like any grease on the splines when I took the wheel off so I didnt grease it should I?
ringadingh
07-23-2010, 08:37 PM
Yes, you should grease the splines, it helps keep the splines from wearing on each other, and from seizing.
Kawhead
07-24-2010, 12:56 AM
I use another method, similar but different. With the bike on the lift so high as you can roll the tires in, I first place the axel thru the final drive, and install the spacer. I check one last time that the splines are well greased with moly lube on the wheel and the finale drive, a smear goes on the axel and sp[acer before they are installed, and then I sit on the floor rolling the tire in and under the bike.
OH YEAH the tranny needs to be in 1st gear before you sit. With my legs and knees I raise the tire and wheel, and it clicks right on with almost no fuss. When that happens i reach around and feel for the axle, and pust till it comes out anout 3/8th inch / 10 mm, then install the other spacer.
I go back to the left side again and push the axle in just past flush to hang the brake bracket, and once it is I just shove the axel the rest of the way in.
I can do it faster than I can type it.Thats exactly how I do mine mac. I don't believe this method would work for folks with long legs though. ;)
macmac
07-24-2010, 08:51 AM
I wear 33 inch legged pants or none at all http://s2.images.proboards.com/grin.gif
And YEAH the splines REQUIRE moly lube grease, at the wheel and at that spline that engages the wheel! The wheel is a compound wheel, and if you see gold tones and blue tones on that metal plate on the wheel it got pretty dang hot.
Yank that wheel again, do not wait. Do not ride.
Any time a tire is changed the swing arm should be serviced too, but if not atleast great the wheel hub, and the final drive splines. Clean them both up first too.
Do not just gob on moly lube on dirty parts.
csduncansnomad
07-25-2010, 08:16 AM
Well took tire off to grease the splines and had the whole thing back together by the time my son got back with new cotter pin. Not bad job when you know how to do it.
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